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passer-buy walks into shop and cuts customers throat with a knife. Then next thing he trys to stab guy behind counter. A fight starts then a cow-orker comes out to help. guy behind counter pulls out big gun and shoots victim who falls to ground with horrific injuerys. Now this guy behind the counter was concluisvly shown in the video to have a gun ready to assualt somebody. He was ALREADY really and willing to fire a gun point-blank into another human. in other words the guy was looking for a EXCUSE to fire a gun at another human; probably even chose his career to increase the liklihood that he could be in a situation where he could hopt to get away with shooting someone. our laws dont cover loopholes like these and so why I fully support greater gun control measures. -- Peter Lucas Brisbane Australia Help reign in capitalism"s rampage; Vote http://greens.org |
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On 10/10/2010 3:22 PM, Peter Lucas wrote:
>> ... EVERYONE in the US should have to go though a gun ownership, use, operation, handling class in high school. They should be required to own a gun and maintain it in proper operating condition. The government should conduct inspections, every year or so, and anyone not having a gun, or not maintaining it in functioning condition, and ready for use should be fined ... after sufficient warnings, if they are still not complaint, they should be jailed for a period of time to get their attention on the importance of maintaining their weapon(s.) Get real ... Regards, JS |
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On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 18:38:02 -0500, Andy > wrote:
>Gun control just means hitting what you aim at! Guns don't kill. School children do. |
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On 10/10/2010 4:38 PM, Andy wrote:
> Gun control just means hitting what you aim at! > > Andy Yes! Darn man, I do believe you have it! Regards, JS |
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On 10/10/2010 4:45 PM, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> ... > Guns don't kill. School children do. Actually, too bad that statement is false ... otherwise we could forget about child abductions! But hey, it is something to work towards! Regards, JS |
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On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 17:16:09 -0700, John Smith
> wrote: >On 10/10/2010 4:45 PM, Mack A. Damia wrote: > >> ... >> Guns don't kill. School children do. > >Actually, too bad that statement is false ... otherwise we could forget >about child abductions! But hey, it is something to work towards! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_High_School |
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On Oct 10, 4:45*pm, Mack A. Damia > wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 18:38:02 -0500, Andy > wrote: > >Gun control just means hitting what you aim at! I agree! A Phoenix police officer told a store owner that he should shoot to kill rather than wounding the trash that kept trying to kill him, and robbing his store. That is defense of your private property. The twisted thinking of the Australian OP comes from living in a country defending itself with knives. Notice that he does not mention the horrific picture of the person with the cut throat.Thank GOD he won't be voting for the "Disarm USA" people. |
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On 10/10/2010 5:24 PM, den wrote:
> ... > I agree! > > A Phoenix police officer told a store owner that he should shoot to > kill rather than wounding the trash that kept trying to kill him, and > robbing his store. That is defense of your private property. > > The twisted thinking of the Australian OP comes from living in a > country defending itself with knives. Notice that he does not mention > the horrific picture of the person with the cut throat.Thank GOD he > won't be voting for the "Disarm USA" people. Yes, guns in the hands of the people who will only shoot criminals, muggers, rapists, thieves, murders, child molesters, etc. are a very goo thing. The reason we have all the problems today is a build up from having neglected in removing these dangerous people from society. They have bred and taught their off spring the same dangerous and despicable ways ... it can't go on forever ... however, their are many fools who can't even leave their homes at night which don't realize the importance of placing guns in the hands of people which would make these places safe again ... sad, so very, very sad ... Regards, JS |
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On Oct 10, 3:22*pm, Peter Lucas > wrote:
> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f3b_1286227189 > > passer-buy walks into shop and cuts customers throat with a knife. > Then next thing he > trys to stab guy behind counter. *A fight starts then a cow-orker > comes *out to help. guy behind counter pulls out big gun and shoots > victim who falls to ground with horrific injuerys. Now this guy behind > the counter was concluisvly shown in the video to have a gun ready to > assualt somebody. He was ALREADY really and willing to fire a gun > point-blank into another human. in other words the guy was looking for > a EXCUSE to fire a gun at another human; probably even chose his > career to increase the liklihood that he could be in a situation where > he could hopt to get away with shooting someone. our laws dont cover > loopholes like these and so why I fully support greater gun control > measures. > > -- > Peter Lucas > Brisbane > Australia > > Help reign in capitalism"s rampage; Votehttp://greens.org "why we need more stronger gun control" Yes Indeed - You Are {I Am} Really Stronger : When You Are {I Am} In Control of a Gun Support Gun Ownership and The Right To Self-Defense of Property and Family for All Law Abiding US Citizens. Support Gun Control for All Convicted Criminals Their Right To Go Back To Jail For Having Any Gun in their Possession. so say i ~ RHF |
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Did anyone see the TV program about Southern Africa where the laws, IIRC
#49, is pending that will allow police and military to shoot to kill with probable cause, and in some cases, weak probable cause? People who lived under the opressive Apartheid philosophy came out and publicly stated that they would not mind it because as long as a citizen is going about their business, they will never be involved in one of these incidents. In today's South Africa, ANYONE who has anything of value is a target of violence, and the police's hands are tied by the do gooders who say they need to follow some lengthy vague protocol, and in the meantime, the victim suffers or dies, and the perpetrator saunters off. So many of them said that they could live with the shoot to kill guidelines. It is like that in society. If you're not out there looting, raping, robbing, and pillaging, you shouldn't even concern yourself about what happens to trash. Steve |
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On 10/10/2010 5:44 PM, RHF wrote:
> ... > so say i ~ RHF > ... I agree. And, I have been one in major neglect of greater gun control. Take the 9mm I carry in a shoulder holster, under my left arm. When I pick up heavy packages/bags the gun "bites" into my arm and chest ... so, I am thinking, a smaller one, like my wifes .32 auto she carries in her purse would give me control over this pain! It would fit in a pocket, shirt, pants, front, back, jacket ... darn, the little thing practically disappears in the palm of my hand! I am an excellent shot, I think it would do and I can dump the BIG 9mm and get greater control ... but, just a thought! Regards, JS |
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On Oct 10, 4:31*pm, John Smith > wrote:
> On 10/10/2010 3:22 PM, Peter Lucas wrote: > > *>> ... > - EVERYONE in the US should have to go though a gun ownership, use, - operation, handling class in high school. *They should be required to - own a gun and maintain it in proper operating condition. *The government - should conduct inspections, every year or so, and anyone not having a - gun, or not maintaining it in functioning condition, and ready for use - should be fined ... after sufficient warnings, if they are still not - complaint, they should be jailed for a period of time to get their - attention on the importance of maintaining their weapon(s.) - - Get real ... - - Regards, - JS JS, Each and Every Able-Bodied Law Abiding* US Citizen Age 18~68 : Must Own and Maintain a Gun for the Self-Defense of Family, Home and Community. * Law that Clearly States NO Criminal Can Sue a Citizen Acting in Defense of Family and Home. Each and Every Able-Bodied US Citizen Age 28~38 : Serves 90~120 Days as Local Armed {Shotgun} Police Auxiliary : The Second or Third LEO* in the Car. * Law that Clearly States NO Criminal Can Sue a LEO That Is Reasonably Acting in Defense of the Community. Exemption for Anti-Gun Citizens : Those that do not 'choose' to Own a Gun for Self-Defense of Family and Home : Pay a 1% Tax Surcharge on their Property and Income from Age 18~ 68 Years. PUT "THE US CITIZEN" BACK-IN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND PUT AN END TO CRIME : LAW ABIDING CITIZENS HAVE RIGHTS : CRIMINALS HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE SHOT FOR THEIR CRIMES [.] - so say i ~ RHF |
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On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 17:45:09 -0700, Steve B wrote:
[snip] What a hypocrite. You made this big rant about how we waste our time with all this OT bullshit and declared yourself leaving, and here you come back with this OT shit of your own. And then all *but* RFC. Yeah - your shit smells so much better than everyone else's. Why not fulfill your original promise that you were leaving? |
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Mack A. Damia > wrote in
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On 10/10/2010 7:31 PM, John Smith wrote:
> On 10/10/2010 3:22 PM, Peter Lucas wrote: > > >> ... > > EVERYONE in the US should have to go though a gun ownership, use, > operation, handling class in high school. They should be required to own > a gun and maintain it in proper operating condition. The government > should conduct inspections, every year or so, and anyone not having a > gun, or not maintaining it in functioning condition, and ready for use > should be fined ... after sufficient warnings, if they are still not > complaint, they should be jailed for a period of time to get their > attention on the importance of maintaining their weapon(s.) > > Get real ... > > Regards, > JS > > Doesn't this just about describe the system that the Swiss have where every able body man of militia age has a government issue rifle and must be able to use it? EJ in NJ |
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On 10/10/2010 6:11 PM, RHF wrote:
> On Oct 10, 4:31 pm, John > wrote: >> On 10/10/2010 3:22 PM, Peter Lucas wrote: >> >> >> ... >> > - EVERYONE in the US should have to go though a gun ownership, use, > - operation, handling class in high school. They should be required > to > - own a gun and maintain it in proper operating condition. The > government > - should conduct inspections, every year or so, and anyone not having > a > - gun, or not maintaining it in functioning condition, and ready for > use > - should be fined ... after sufficient warnings, if they are still not > - complaint, they should be jailed for a period of time to get their > - attention on the importance of maintaining their weapon(s.) > - > - Get real ... > - > - Regards, > - JS > > JS, > > Each and Every Able-Bodied Law Abiding* US Citizen > Age 18~68 : Must Own and Maintain a Gun for the > Self-Defense of Family, Home and Community. > * Law that Clearly States NO Criminal Can Sue a > Citizen Acting in Defense of Family and Home. > > Each and Every Able-Bodied US Citizen Age 28~38 : > Serves 90~120 Days as Local Armed {Shotgun} Police > Auxiliary : The Second or Third LEO* in the Car. > * Law that Clearly States NO Criminal Can Sue a LEO > That Is Reasonably Acting in Defense of the Community. > > Exemption for Anti-Gun Citizens : Those that do not > 'choose' to Own a Gun for Self-Defense of Family and > Home : Pay a 1% Tax Surcharge on their Property > and Income from Age 18~ 68 Years. > > PUT "THE US CITIZEN" BACK-IN LAW ENFORCEMENT > AND PUT AN END TO CRIME : LAW ABIDING CITIZENS > HAVE RIGHTS : CRIMINALS HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE > SHOT FOR THEIR CRIMES [.] - so say i ~ RHF > . > . Love it, why don't you run for office ... ya' got my vote! Regards, JS |
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On 10/10/2010 7:27 PM, EJ Willson wrote:
>> ... > Doesn't this just about describe the system that the Swiss have where > every able body man of militia age has a government issue rifle and must > be able to use it? > > EJ in NJ You mean Switzerland? Where the crime rate is about zero? Well, yes, yes, I think you are right. Imagine that! Regards, JS |
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On Oct 10, 7:31*pm, John Smith > wrote:
> On 10/10/2010 3:22 PM, Peter Lucas wrote: > > *>> ... > > EVERYONE in the US should have to go though a gun ownership, use, > operation, handling class in high school. *They should be required to > own a gun and maintain it in proper operating condition. *The government > should conduct inspections, every year or so, and anyone not having a > gun, or not maintaining it in functioning condition, and ready for use > should be fined ... after sufficient warnings, if they are still not > complaint, they should be jailed for a period of time to get their > attention on the importance of maintaining their weapon(s.) > > Get real ... > > Regards, > JS That country is called Switzerland. Very (hardly) any violent crime. They never joined EU either. |
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On Oct 10, 8:24*pm, den > wrote:
> On Oct 10, 4:45*pm, Mack A. Damia > wrote: > > > On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 18:38:02 -0500, Andy > wrote: > > >Gun control just means hitting what you aim at! > > I agree! > > * A Phoenix police officer told a store owner that he should shoot to > kill rather than wounding the trash that kept trying to kill him, and > robbing his store. That is defense of your private property. > > The twisted thinking of the Australian OP comes from living in a > country defending itself with knives. Notice that he does not mention > the horrific picture of the person with the cut throat.Thank GOD he > won't be voting for the "Disarm USA" people. Australia had a pretty violent history in the past. Very violent by any standards. Even the cangaroos get violent as well as dingoes ! |
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On 11/10/2010 11:24 AM, den wrote:
> On Oct 10, 4:45 pm, Mack A. > wrote: >> On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 18:38:02 -0500, > wrote: >>> Gun control just means hitting what you aim at! > > I agree! > > A Phoenix police officer told a store owner that he should shoot to > kill rather than wounding the trash that kept trying to kill him, and > robbing his store. That is defense of your private property. > > The twisted thinking of the Australian OP comes from living in a > country defending itself with knives. Notice that he does not mention > the horrific picture of the person with the cut throat.Thank GOD he > won't be voting for the "Disarm USA" people. > > > Thank god both iterations of the Peter Lucas posting in this thread AREN'T Australian. Might pay you to do a lookup on the IP addresses before you rush to assumptions! Krypsis |
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On 11/10/2010 1:32 PM, John Smith wrote:
> On 10/10/2010 7:27 PM, EJ Willson wrote: > > >> ... >> Doesn't this just about describe the system that the Swiss have where >> every able body man of militia age has a government issue rifle and must >> be able to use it? >> >> EJ in NJ > > You mean Switzerland? Where the crime rate is about zero? > > Well, yes, yes, I think you are right. Imagine that! > > Regards, > JS You, and the original poster, omitted to mention that the training in question comes with a 2 year stint in the military services from age 20 as well as ongoing training updates at regular intervals afterwards. The focus isn't on gun training so much as defence of Switzerland in time of war. A country with a gun in every house and every able bodied male able to use such guns make Switzerland a less desirable attack target. Krypsis |
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den wrote:
> The twisted thinking of the Australian OP comes from living in a country > defending itself with knives. Notice that he does not mention the horrific > picture of the person with the cut throat.Thank GOD he won't be voting for > the "Disarm USA" people. Despite the famous scene from "Crocodile Dundee," carrying a knife around is illegal in many parts of Australia. I'm not certain whether it's a nationwide law, but I do know that it's illegal in large Australian cities. The only message of significance that readers should take away from this thread is that Peter Lucas is a worthless sack of shit. Bob |
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In message > , Krypsis
> writes >> That country is called Switzerland. Very (hardly) any violent crime. >> They never joined EU either. > >can't blame them for that! Who'd want to join an "institution" that >gives free rein to migration across borders. But like millions of wogs, I'm happy to be English. JF |
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On 10/10/2010 10:34 PM, Bob Terwilliger wrote:
> ... > The only message of significance that readers should take away from this > thread is that Peter Lucas is a worthless sack of shit. > > Bob > Sounds about right. Grab a gun, if you are forced to use it, let the court decide ... hope I am on your jury? Regards, JS |
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On 10/10/2010 10:55 PM, james wrote:
> ... > But like millions of wogs, I'm happy to be English. JF In America, I would only shoot someone who was over me in the night, beating down my door, threatening me with a weapon ... I mean, I would have to kinda be forced into such drastic action ... what, this doesn't happen in your area? I am 58. The only people I have shot, to date, have been in foreign lands and been called "the enemy." But, cha' know, I am a thinkin' the enemy has come home ... Regards, JS |
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On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 00:30:35 -0700, John Smith
> wrote: >On 10/10/2010 10:55 PM, james wrote: > >> ... >> But like millions of wogs, I'm happy to be English. JF > >In America, I would only shoot someone who was over me in the night, >beating down my door, threatening me with a weapon ... I mean, I would >have to kinda be forced into such drastic action ... what, this doesn't >happen in your area? > >I am 58. The only people I have shot, to date, have been in foreign >lands and been called "the enemy." But, cha' know, I am a thinkin' the >enemy has come home ... Fox News. |
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"Peter Lucas" > wrote in message ... > http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f3b_1286227189 > > passer-buy walks into shop and cuts customers throat with a knife. > Then next thing he > trys to stab guy behind counter. A fight starts then a cow-orker > comes out to help. guy behind counter pulls out big gun and shoots > victim who falls to ground with horrific injuerys. Now this guy behind > the counter was concluisvly shown in the video to have a gun ready to > assualt somebody. He was ALREADY really and willing to fire a gun > point-blank into another human. in other words the guy was looking for > a EXCUSE to fire a gun at another human; probably even chose his > career to increase the liklihood that he could be in a situation where > he could hopt to get away with shooting someone. our laws dont cover > loopholes like these and so why I fully support greater gun control > measures. > > Shoots victim are you stupid. The guy cut the throat of one man and attacked two other people before being shot. He was the cause of the whole incident without his attack he would not have been shot. Whit your ignorance you can claim all cops are ready and willing to find an excuse to kill someone too. Robert |
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"james" > wrote in message ... > In message > , Krypsis > > writes > >>> That country is called Switzerland. Very (hardly) any violent crime. >>> They never joined EU either. >> >>can't blame them for that! Who'd want to join an "institution" that gives >>free rein to migration across borders. > > But like millions of wogs, I'm happy to be English. JF Basically, this is exactly what the United States is. It's not just a name, you know. All of the individual states were once individual political systems of their own. Our Federal government is basically just an infrastructure that allows all the states to share in commerce, defense and to allow for free emigration from state to state. This is much the same as the EU was designed to do, is it not? |
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atec77 wrote:
> read the headers and next time please dont feed the bloke who is not Peter > and ís a troll The bloke whose penis you suck isn't the only "Peter Lucas" in Australia, you know. The Peter Lucas who started this thread says he's in Brisbane. The Peter Lucas who ****s you in the anus says he's in Tasmania. Bob |
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RHF wrote:
> On Oct 10, 4:31 pm, John > wrote: >> On 10/10/2010 3:22 PM, Peter Lucas wrote: >> >> >> ... >> > - EVERYONE in the US should have to go though a gun ownership, use, > - operation, handling class in high school. High school age is too late. |
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"John Smith" > wrote in message ... > On 10/10/2010 3:22 PM, Peter Lucas wrote: > > >> ... > > EVERYONE in the US should have to go though a gun ownership, use, > operation, handling class in high school. They should be required to own > a gun and maintain it in proper operating condition. The government > should conduct inspections, every year or so, and anyone not having a gun, > or not maintaining it in functioning condition, and ready for use should > be fined ... after sufficient warnings, if they are still not complaint, > they should be jailed for a period of time to get their attention on the > importance of maintaining their weapon(s.) > > Get real ... > > Regards, > JS > I think Peter was being tongue in cheek, The guy might have saved two lives with gun. And best of all one criminal off the street, and hopeful no longer alive. MikeK |
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On 10/11/2010 4:32 AM, Gorio wrote:
> Mack A. Damia;1536518 Wrote: >> On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 00:30:35 -0700, John Smith >> wrote: >> - >> On 10/10/2010 10:55 PM, james wrote: >> - >> ... >> But like millions of wogs, I'm happy to be English. JF- >> >> In America, I would only shoot someone who was over me in the night, >> beating down my door, threatening me with a weapon ... I mean, I would >> have to kinda be forced into such drastic action ... what, this doesn't >> >> happen in your area? >> >> I am 58. The only people I have shot, to date, have been in foreign >> lands and been called "the enemy." But, cha' know, I am a thinkin' the >> >> enemy has come home ...- >> >> Fox News. > > LOL!! Good one, Mack!! Uhh... Fox News came from Australia. |
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On 10/11/2010 8:05 AM, Mike Fleming wrote:
> ... > Facts are always a terrible thing, especially when they show that > Switzerland's murder rate is the highest in Europe, and all European > countries have considerably lower murder rates than the USA. > Switzerland is much safer than the USA. My friends, which have visited there, have all moved there. They love it ... But, if murder isn't getting rid of those worthless eaters in europe, how are you going to get rid of them? Sounds like you have a pest eradication problem to me ... We have gangs and violent offenders on the street here in the USA. Since no one has been doing much about it, it has gotten pretty bad. We do need a lot more gun owners to help and clean up the place for normal people ... people have a way of doing what is necessary ... in the end. I am betting this will take care of itself ... Regards, JS |
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On 10/11/2010 8:24 AM, amdx wrote:
>> ... > I think Peter was being tongue in cheek, The guy might have saved > two lives with gun. And best of all one criminal off the street, and > hopeful no longer alive. > MikeK > > Every citizen involved, one criminal at at time ... has always worked before, always will ... we just need a larger base of gun owners, one foot in front of the other, the longest journey will be completed. Regards, JS |
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