http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQE4f...eature=related

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tueller_Drill

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esn_Igine38

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08q6F-4l5aM
I find this one relatively stupid because the man with the gun has his hand
on it. In normal situations, it would have been under his shirt, concealed.

These videos, and the Tueller drill pokes lots of holes in the idea that you
never bring a knife to a gunfight. In the second one where the assailant
throws the large knife hitting his target dead center in the chest is the
best example of how a trained assailant can beat a gun.

These videos are staged by trained people, or at least by some who have some
knowledge and experience with these situations.

In real life, lots of people will have their guns in a fanny pack, in their
purse, under a layer of clothing, or in some place that makes instant Old
West quick draw and shoot impossible.

Daily, there are stories of people with knives being killed by officers with
guns, and the question is asked, "Couldn't they have just rushed the guy and
overpowered them?" The answer is yes, no, absolutely, and maybe.

HTH in the discussion gun control.

Steve

Heart surgery pending?
Read up and prepare.
Learn how to care for a friend.
http://cabgbypasssurgery.com

On Oct 12, 12:46*pm, "Steve B" > wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQE4f...eature=related
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tueller_Drill
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esn_Igine38
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08q6F-4l5aM
> I find this one relatively stupid because the man with the gun has his hand
> on it. *In normal situations, it would have been under his shirt, concealed.
>
> These videos, and the Tueller drill pokes lots of holes in the idea that you
> never bring a knife to a gunfight. *In the second one where the assailant
> throws the large knife hitting his target dead center in the chest is the
> best example of how a trained assailant can beat a gun.
>
> These videos are staged by trained people, or at least by some who have some
> knowledge and experience with these situations.
>
> In real life, lots of people will have their guns in a fanny pack, in their
> purse, under a layer of clothing, or in some place that makes instant Old
> West quick draw and shoot impossible.
>
> Daily, there are stories of people with knives being killed by officers with
> guns, and the question is asked, "Couldn't they have just rushed the guy and
> overpowered them?" *The answer is yes, no, absolutely, and maybe.
>
> HTH in the discussion gun control.
>
> Steve
>
> Heart surgery pending?
> Read up and prepare.
> Learn how to care for a friend.
> *http://cabgbypasssurgery.com

And the food info is what?

On Oct 12, 1:54*pm, " > wrote:
> On Oct 12, 12:46*pm, "Steve B" > wrote:
>
>
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQE4f...eature=related
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tueller_Drill
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esn_Igine38
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08q6F-4l5aM
> > I find this one relatively stupid because the man with the gun has his hand
> > on it. *In normal situations, it would have been under his shirt, concealed.
>
> > These videos, and the Tueller drill pokes lots of holes in the idea that you
> > never bring a knife to a gunfight. *In the second one where the assailant
> > throws the large knife hitting his target dead center in the chest is the
> > best example of how a trained assailant can beat a gun.
>
> > These videos are staged by trained people, or at least by some who have some
> > knowledge and experience with these situations.
>
> > In real life, lots of people will have their guns in a fanny pack, in their
> > purse, under a layer of clothing, or in some place that makes instant Old
> > West quick draw and shoot impossible.
>
> > Daily, there are stories of people with knives being killed by officers with
> > guns, and the question is asked, "Couldn't they have just rushed the guy and
> > overpowered them?" *The answer is yes, no, absolutely, and maybe.
>
> > HTH in the discussion gun control.
>
> > Steve
>
> > Heart surgery pending?
> > Read up and prepare.
> > Learn how to care for a friend.
> > *http://cabgbypasssurgery.com
>
> And the food info is what?

==
Use a knife to slice your roast...it may not be as fast as a gun but
it will be neater than if you used a gun with mushroom ammo.
==

On 2010-10-12, Steve B > wrote:

> I find this one relatively stupid....

Then why post it?

nb

On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 12:54:50 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>And the food info is what?

The loser becomes worm-food, don't ya think?

Alex

On Oct 12, 2:50*pm, Swertz > wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 12:46:08 -0700, Steve B wrote:
> > HTH in the discussion gun control.
>
> Take your BS to a group that specializes in this kind of stuff. *We're
> here to eat, not discuss bloodshed.
>
> We thought you left this group a couple months ago because you came
> here to talk about food and despised all this OT bullshit?
>
> Hypocrite.
>
> -sw

We're here to eat? Eat what?
http://tinyurl.com/mc3fzd

> wrote in message
...
On Oct 12, 12:46 pm, "Steve B" > wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQE4f...eature=related
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tueller_Drill
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esn_Igine38
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08q6F-4l5aM
> I find this one relatively stupid because the man with the gun has his
> hand
> on it. In normal situations, it would have been under his shirt,
> concealed.
>
> These videos, and the Tueller drill pokes lots of holes in the idea that
> you
> never bring a knife to a gunfight. In the second one where the assailant
> throws the large knife hitting his target dead center in the chest is the
> best example of how a trained assailant can beat a gun.
>
> These videos are staged by trained people, or at least by some who have
> some
> knowledge and experience with these situations.
>
> In real life, lots of people will have their guns in a fanny pack, in
> their
> purse, under a layer of clothing, or in some place that makes instant Old
> West quick draw and shoot impossible.
>
> Daily, there are stories of people with knives being killed by officers
> with
> guns, and the question is asked, "Couldn't they have just rushed the guy
> and
> overpowered them?" The answer is yes, no, absolutely, and maybe.
>
> HTH in the discussion gun control.
>
> Steve
>
> Heart surgery pending?
> Read up and prepare.
> Learn how to care for a friend.
> http://cabgbypasssurgery.com

And the food info is what?

Absolutely nothing, moron. Just like the other thread.

Would you like to buy a vowel?

Steve

On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:47:31 -0700, Steve B wrote:

> Apparently you just regained consciousness from a coma or attained a level
> of sobriety. There has been a long thread on this subject in this
> newsgroup.

I count 9 posts, 1/3rd of which are yours. A thread which YOU started
by clipping all newsgroups to which it was originally posted *except*
rec.food.cooking.

Steve B minus: Dumbass extraordinaire.

-sw

"Skuirtz" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:47:31 -0700, Steve B wrote:
>
>> Apparently you just regained consciousness from a coma or attained a
>> level
>> of sobriety. There has been a long thread on this subject in this
>> newsgroup.
>
> I count 9 posts, 1/3rd of which are yours. A thread which YOU started
> by clipping all newsgroups to which it was originally posted *except*
> rec.food.cooking.
>
> Steve B minus: Dumbass extraordinaire.
>
> -sw

Jesus Christ, guy. Buy a vowel. Get a clue. No one here wants to read
you. If you had any degree of honesty, you would keep one identity, and
just let people decide on their own.

Dumbass extraordinaire is when you have to keep changing your name because
you just don't get it.

Squertz is a descriptive name you have chosen for yourself. Slimy would be
more apropos.

Plonked until you morph. Again.

Steve

On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:46:00 -0700 in rec.food.cooking, "Steve B"
> wrote,
>And the food info is what?
>
>Absolutely nothing, moron.

Then DON'T post it, moron.

On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:47:31 -0700, "Steve B"
> wrote:

> There has been a long thread on this subject in this
> newsgroup.

In rec.food.cooking? NO.

--

Never trust a dog to watch your food.

"David Harmon" > wrote in message
m...
> On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:46:00 -0700 in rec.food.cooking, "Steve B"
> > wrote,
>>And the food info is what?
>>
>>Absolutely nothing, moron.
>
> Then DON'T post it, moron.

I'm sorry, but the post of NetNanny for the group is filled, and there are
ten assistants, and 93 people in line with applications for the position.

You are so far down the line, you are invisible.

Let me give you ONE thing that MAY help you. Look at where it says,
"SUBJECT". If it says, "14 ways to seduce a goat", it's probably about just
that. Just pass by it, and don't even open it up. There is no requirement
that you read everything posted.

HTH, but I really doubt it.

You may heave now.

Steve

On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:50:14 -0500, Swertz wrote:

> On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 12:46:08 -0700, Steve B wrote:
>
>> HTH in the discussion gun control.
>
> Take your BS to a group that specializes in this kind of stuff. We're
> here to eat, not discuss bloodshed.
>
> We thought you left this group a couple months ago because you came
> here to talk about food and despised all this OT bullshit?
>
> Hypocrite.
>
> -sw

he's taking his revenge!

your pal,
blake

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
om...
> On 12/10/2010 6:46 PM, Steve B wrote:
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>> On Oct 12, 12:46 pm, "Steve > wrote:
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQE4f...eature=related
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tueller_Drill
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esn_Igine38
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08q6F-4l5aM
>>> I find this one relatively stupid because the man with the gun has his
>>> hand
>>> on it. In normal situations, it would have been under his shirt,
>>> concealed.
>>>
>>> These videos, and the Tueller drill pokes lots of holes in the idea that
>>> you
>>> never bring a knife to a gunfight. In the second one where the assailant
>>> throws the large knife hitting his target dead center in the chest is
>>> the
>>> best example of how a trained assailant can beat a gun.
>>>
>>> These videos are staged by trained people, or at least by some who have
>>> some
>>> knowledge and experience with these situations.
>>>
>>> In real life, lots of people will have their guns in a fanny pack, in
>>> their
>>> purse, under a layer of clothing, or in some place that makes instant
>>> Old
>>> West quick draw and shoot impossible.
>>>
>>> Daily, there are stories of people with knives being killed by officers
>>> with
>>> guns, and the question is asked, "Couldn't they have just rushed the guy
>>> and
>>> overpowered them?" The answer is yes, no, absolutely, and maybe.
>>>
>>> HTH in the discussion gun control.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> Heart surgery pending?
>>> Read up and prepare.
>>> Learn how to care for a friend.
>>> http://cabgbypasssurgery.com
>>
>> And the food info is what?
>>
>> Absolutely nothing, moron. Just like the other thread.
>>
>> Would you like to buy a vowel?
>
>
> OK.... so the guy with the knife is faster than the dummy with a gun.
> Would the dummy have been faster if he had a quick draw holster.
> Would the guy with the gun be faster than a dummy with a knife?

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