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Default Cooked cheese, Spain

Its suddenly struck me that, unlike, say Italy, cooked cheese
isn't at all popular in traditional spanish cooking.
("packageholidayland" aside). Before I say so on my website, does
anybody want to make the opposite case?

Only thing I can think of is Cabrales on a steak, which may have
been imitating US or northern Europan ideas? Another I have had
is scallops with tetilla, but this was an innovative "modern
european" effort.
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Following up to The Reids

>Its suddenly struck me that, unlike, say Italy, cooked cheese
>isn't at all popular in traditional spanish cooking.


one I just found digging through cookbooks:-

"tres cosas me tienen preso
de amores el corazon
la bella Ines
el jamon e berejenas con queso"

16C poem - Baltazar de Alcazar

(three things have captured the love of my heart, the beautiful
women Ines, the ham and aubergines with cheese).

Not sure how beautiful Ines was, as she is playing second fiddle
to an aubergine?
If Baltazar was "of the castle", perhaps he didnt get out much?
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The Reids surprised us with

> Its suddenly struck me that, unlike, say Italy, cooked cheese
> isn't at all popular in traditional spanish cooking.
> ("packageholidayland" aside). Before I say so on my website, does
> anybody want to make the opposite case?
>
> Only thing I can think of is Cabrales on a steak, which may have
> been imitating US or northern Europan ideas? Another I have had
> is scallops with tetilla, but this was an innovative "modern
> european" effort.


Now that you mention it... I never noticed before, but indeed. Very much
eating with bread, or as a tapa, but hardly any cooking.

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The Reids surprised us with

> Not sure how beautiful Ines was, as she is playing second fiddle
> to an aubergine?
>


You know those Spaniards! Food before everything. Can't blame them....

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What about a Big Mac in Paris?

"The Reids" > wrote in message
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> Its suddenly struck me that, unlike, say Italy, cooked cheese
> isn't at all popular in traditional spanish cooking.
> ("packageholidayland" aside). Before I say so on my website, does
> anybody want to make the opposite case?
>
> Only thing I can think of is Cabrales on a steak, which may have
> been imitating US or northern Europan ideas? Another I have had
> is scallops with tetilla, but this was an innovative "modern
> european" effort.
> --
> Mike Reid
> Wasdale-Thames path-London-photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can
> email us@ this site
> Eat-walk-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a
> spamtrap





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Please wash your mouth out with soap & water!

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>Waldo cusses;
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>> What about a Big Mac in Paris?

>
>Please wash your mouth out with soap & water.


Soap and water in paris is a WOMD.


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>Waldo cusses;
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>GoombaP surprised us with
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>> What about a Big Mac in Paris?

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>Please wash your mouth out with soap & water.


Soap and water in paris is a WOMD.


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>cooked cheese
>isn't at all popular in traditional spanish cooking


Good observation. The only exception I can think of is a manchego "melt" over
steamed white asparagus I was once served at Egipte in Barcelona. (It wasn't
very good.)

Neil


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On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 10:18:34 +0100, The Reids
> wrote:

>Its suddenly struck me that, unlike, say Italy, cooked cheese
>isn't at all popular in traditional spanish cooking.
>("packageholidayland" aside). Before I say so on my website, does
>anybody want to make the opposite case?
>
>Only thing I can think of is Cabrales on a steak, which may have
>been imitating US or northern Europan ideas? Another I have had
>is scallops with tetilla, but this was an innovative "modern
>european" effort.


Queso fundido?

Sure its popularity is in Mexico and the US, but cheese dishes in
Mexican cooking generally have some Spanish rather than native origin.

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Christopher Green wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 10:18:34 +0100, The Reids
> > wrote:
>
>
>>Its suddenly struck me that, unlike, say Italy, cooked cheese
>>isn't at all popular in traditional spanish cooking.
>>("packageholidayland" aside). Before I say so on my website, does
>>anybody want to make the opposite case?
>>
>>Only thing I can think of is Cabrales on a steak, which may have
>>been imitating US or northern Europan ideas? Another I have had
>>is scallops with tetilla, but this was an innovative "modern
>>european" effort.

>
>
> Queso fundido?
>
> Sure its popularity is in Mexico and the US, but cheese dishes in
> Mexican cooking generally have some Spanish rather than native origin.
>


Spain's cooking is as eclectic as it can ever get. It's not really a
country, but a forced gathering of smaller ones. Even their languages
differ: basque, catalan, galicia, et cetera. Foods vary from Andalusian
with its arab influence, to jewish flavors in Toledo and Cordoba, to
French styles in the Basque country, to Gallic (Celtic,) in Galicia. The
people even look different; from the very dark haired and hairy (South,)
to the very fair and blue eyes (North.)

I've have never encountered melted cheese in their cuisine; and I have
seen a lot of Spanish cooking.

I think it's more of a Mexican thing; despite their cuisine having
Spanish roots. There cuisine actually has more indigenous (of the
Americas,) roots: chilies, corn, tamales, fajitas, et cetera.

HTH,

Rich

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>cheese dishes in
>Mexican cooking generally have some Spanish rather than native origin.


Except no one can come up with any that have survived in Spain since this
separation.

Ferdinand Braudel has pointed out that records of Spanish cuisine from 500
years ago often bear an odd resemblance to Mexican cuisine of today; for
instance, the preference of lard to olive oil as a frying medium--although it
seems odd the use of lard in Spain should taper off just at the time the Jews
were expelled and the Moors subjugated.

In any case, Spanish and Mexican cuisine parted ways 500 years ago and have
only grown further apart in the interim: different oils, different herbs,
different starches, and different applications of those ingredients both use.
Totally different understandings of coffee and chocolate; Spain loves seafood,
and Mexico makes only marginal use of it. The list of common traditions grows
narrow; the main correspondence is a common appreciation for garlic.

Neil
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Christopher Green wrote:

> Queso fundido?
>
> Sure its popularity is in Mexico and the US, but cheese dishes in
> Mexican cooking generally have some Spanish rather than native origin.


What does that mean, fundido? I know what queso means.

There used to be a restaurant near where I live, they had
chicken fundido. I loved it almost as much as I love fajitas.
It had chopped chicken, with cream cheese, melted in a crust
(I guess phyllo, like that) with a yellow cheese melted on top.

nancy (how that restaurant went out of business, I don't know)
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Christopher Green wrote:

> Queso fundido?
>
> Sure its popularity is in Mexico and the US, but cheese dishes in
> Mexican cooking generally have some Spanish rather than native origin.


What does that mean, fundido? I know what queso means.

There used to be a restaurant near where I live, they had
chicken fundido. I loved it almost as much as I love fajitas.
It had chopped chicken, with cream cheese, melted in a crust
(I guess phyllo, like that) with a yellow cheese melted on top.

nancy (how that restaurant went out of business, I don't know)


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WardNA wrote:


> In any case, Spanish and Mexican cuisine parted ways 500 years ago
> and have only grown further apart in the interim:



How do you figure that? Mexico was Spanish territory until the early
19th century, and had a regular influx of adminstrative personnel from
Spain up until that time.




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WardNA wrote:


> In any case, Spanish and Mexican cuisine parted ways 500 years ago
> and have only grown further apart in the interim:



How do you figure that? Mexico was Spanish territory until the early
19th century, and had a regular influx of adminstrative personnel from
Spain up until that time.




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Nancy Young wrote:

> Christopher Green wrote:
>
>
>>Queso fundido?
>>
>>Sure its popularity is in Mexico and the US, but cheese dishes in
>>Mexican cooking generally have some Spanish rather than native origin.

>
>
> What does that mean, fundido? I know what queso means.
>
> There used to be a restaurant near where I live, they had
> chicken fundido. I loved it almost as much as I love fajitas.
> It had chopped chicken, with cream cheese, melted in a crust
> (I guess phyllo, like that) with a yellow cheese melted on top.
>
> nancy (how that restaurant went out of business, I don't know)

Fundido refers to melting; especially melting metals. Derretido is a
better word for foods.

Rich

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Nancy Young wrote:

> Christopher Green wrote:
>
>
>>Queso fundido?
>>
>>Sure its popularity is in Mexico and the US, but cheese dishes in
>>Mexican cooking generally have some Spanish rather than native origin.

>
>
> What does that mean, fundido? I know what queso means.
>
> There used to be a restaurant near where I live, they had
> chicken fundido. I loved it almost as much as I love fajitas.
> It had chopped chicken, with cream cheese, melted in a crust
> (I guess phyllo, like that) with a yellow cheese melted on top.
>
> nancy (how that restaurant went out of business, I don't know)

Fundido refers to melting; especially melting metals. Derretido is a
better word for foods.

Rich

--
"Dum Spiro, Spero."

As long as I breath, I hope.

Cicero (Ancient Rome)





ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤° `°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø
><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸. ><((((º> ·´¯`·. , .·´¯`·.. ><((((º>


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Nancy Young wrote:

> Richard Periut wrote:
>
>>Nancy Young wrote:

>
>
>>>There used to be a restaurant near where I live, they had
>>>chicken fundido. I loved it almost as much as I love fajitas.
>>>It had chopped chicken, with cream cheese, melted in a crust
>>>(I guess phyllo, like that) with a yellow cheese melted on top.
>>>
>>>nancy (how that restaurant went out of business, I don't know)

>
>
>>Fundido refers to melting; especially melting metals. Derretido is a
>>better word for foods.

>
>
> Thanks, Rich. It really was a great dish. I'd be so happy if someone
> brought me some right now. (laugh) Right. Thanks for the
> explanation.
>
> nancy


It (fundido) is also used to refer to blown bulbs, motor engines,
someones brains (meaning their stupid.) Careful with the pronounciation;
it's very close to fondillo = butt. : ) the to L's sounding like y.

Rich

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Nancy Young wrote:

> Richard Periut wrote:
>
>>Nancy Young wrote:

>
>
>>>There used to be a restaurant near where I live, they had
>>>chicken fundido. I loved it almost as much as I love fajitas.
>>>It had chopped chicken, with cream cheese, melted in a crust
>>>(I guess phyllo, like that) with a yellow cheese melted on top.
>>>
>>>nancy (how that restaurant went out of business, I don't know)

>
>
>>Fundido refers to melting; especially melting metals. Derretido is a
>>better word for foods.

>
>
> Thanks, Rich. It really was a great dish. I'd be so happy if someone
> brought me some right now. (laugh) Right. Thanks for the
> explanation.
>
> nancy


It (fundido) is also used to refer to blown bulbs, motor engines,
someones brains (meaning their stupid.) Careful with the pronounciation;
it's very close to fondillo = butt. : ) the to L's sounding like y.

Rich

--
"Dum Spiro, Spero."

As long as I breath, I hope.

Cicero (Ancient Rome)





ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤° `°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø
><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸. ><((((º> ·´¯`·. , .·´¯`·.. ><((((º>


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Richard Periut wrote:
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> Nancy Young wrote:


> > There used to be a restaurant near where I live, they had
> > chicken fundido. I loved it almost as much as I love fajitas.
> > It had chopped chicken, with cream cheese, melted in a crust
> > (I guess phyllo, like that) with a yellow cheese melted on top.
> >
> > nancy (how that restaurant went out of business, I don't know)


> Fundido refers to melting; especially melting metals. Derretido is a
> better word for foods.


Thanks, Rich. It really was a great dish. I'd be so happy if someone
brought me some right now. (laugh) Right. Thanks for the
explanation.

nancy
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Richard Periut wrote:
>
> Nancy Young wrote:


> > There used to be a restaurant near where I live, they had
> > chicken fundido. I loved it almost as much as I love fajitas.
> > It had chopped chicken, with cream cheese, melted in a crust
> > (I guess phyllo, like that) with a yellow cheese melted on top.
> >
> > nancy (how that restaurant went out of business, I don't know)


> Fundido refers to melting; especially melting metals. Derretido is a
> better word for foods.


Thanks, Rich. It really was a great dish. I'd be so happy if someone
brought me some right now. (laugh) Right. Thanks for the
explanation.

nancy
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WardNA wrote:

>>How do you figure that? Mexico was Spanish territory until the early
>>19th century, and had a regular influx of adminstrative personnel from
>>Spain up until that time.

>
>
> They parted ways culturally LONG before that. For instance, it was literally
> illegal to grow vinyards for wine in Mexico during the colonial period, which
> is why Mexico traditionally prefers beer (although it is finally getting into
> winemaking now).
>
> Neil


Of interest: Tequila

Pre Columbian Indians knew how to produce several different drinks from
agave plants, but their techniques did not include distillation, and
hence, strictly speaking, they did not produce "tequila".

Fermented agave juice or "pulque" may be the oldest alcoholic drink on
the continent; it is referred to in an archival Olmec text which claims
that it serves as a "delight for the gods and priests". Pulque was
fermented, but not distilled. Though colonial authorities tried to
suppress "illegal" liquors, the industry of illicit distilling clearly
thrived. One eighteenth century list has more than 81 different
mixtures, including some truly fearsomesounding concoctions such as
"cock's eye", and "excommunication". By the 1670's, the authorities saw
the wisdom of taxing, rather than prohibiting, liquor production.

Distilled agave juice was known for centuries as "mezcal". By the end of
the nineteenth century, tequila had assumed its present name, because of
the widespread popularity of the mezcal produced in Tequila.

Rich

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As long as I breath, I hope.

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WardNA wrote:

>>How do you figure that? Mexico was Spanish territory until the early
>>19th century, and had a regular influx of adminstrative personnel from
>>Spain up until that time.

>
>
> They parted ways culturally LONG before that. For instance, it was literally
> illegal to grow vinyards for wine in Mexico during the colonial period, which
> is why Mexico traditionally prefers beer (although it is finally getting into
> winemaking now).
>
> Neil


Of interest: Tequila

Pre Columbian Indians knew how to produce several different drinks from
agave plants, but their techniques did not include distillation, and
hence, strictly speaking, they did not produce "tequila".

Fermented agave juice or "pulque" may be the oldest alcoholic drink on
the continent; it is referred to in an archival Olmec text which claims
that it serves as a "delight for the gods and priests". Pulque was
fermented, but not distilled. Though colonial authorities tried to
suppress "illegal" liquors, the industry of illicit distilling clearly
thrived. One eighteenth century list has more than 81 different
mixtures, including some truly fearsomesounding concoctions such as
"cock's eye", and "excommunication". By the 1670's, the authorities saw
the wisdom of taxing, rather than prohibiting, liquor production.

Distilled agave juice was known for centuries as "mezcal". By the end of
the nineteenth century, tequila had assumed its present name, because of
the widespread popularity of the mezcal produced in Tequila.

Rich

--
"Dum Spiro, Spero."

As long as I breath, I hope.

Cicero (Ancient Rome)





ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤° `°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø
><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸. ><((((º> ·´¯`·. , .·´¯`·.. ><((((º>


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>How do you figure that? Mexico was Spanish territory until the early
>19th century, and had a regular influx of adminstrative personnel from
>Spain up until that time.


They parted ways culturally LONG before that. For instance, it was literally
illegal to grow vinyards for wine in Mexico during the colonial period, which
is why Mexico traditionally prefers beer (although it is finally getting into
winemaking now).

Neil
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In article >, dontuse@fell-
walker.co.uk says...
> Its suddenly struck me that, unlike, say Italy, cooked cheese
> isn't at all popular in traditional spanish cooking.
> ("packageholidayland" aside). Before I say so on my website, does
> anybody want to make the opposite case?
>
> Only thing I can think of is Cabrales on a steak, which may have
> been imitating US or northern Europan ideas? Another I have had
> is scallops with tetilla, but this was an innovative "modern
> european" effort.
>

The memory fails me every now and again, but I would have to say that,
as I recall, every tortilla de huevos I've ever had in Spain included
cheese of one sort or another among the ingredients. Does this count as
"cooked cheese"?
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On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 17:45:20 -0400, Nancy Young >
wrote:

>Christopher Green wrote:
>
>> Queso fundido?
>>
>> Sure its popularity is in Mexico and the US, but cheese dishes in
>> Mexican cooking generally have some Spanish rather than native origin.

>
>What does that mean, fundido? I know what queso means.


Melted; it's cognate with "fondue".

If this ever was popular in any of Spain's cuisines, it seems to have
vanished long ago, though. I'm just conjecturing, because anything to
do with cheese just doesn't sound indigenous to Mexico.

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Chris Green

>There used to be a restaurant near where I live, they had
>chicken fundido. I loved it almost as much as I love fajitas.
>It had chopped chicken, with cream cheese, melted in a crust
>(I guess phyllo, like that) with a yellow cheese melted on top.
>
>nancy (how that restaurant went out of business, I don't know)


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Following up to Waldo Centini

>Now that you mention it... I never noticed before,


funny, innit, how such a thing can pass you by.
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Following up to GoombaP

>What about a Big Mac in Paris?


which part of Spain is that in?
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Following up to GoombaP

>What about a Big Mac in Paris?


which part of Spain is that in?
--
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Following up to Christopher Green

>Sure its popularity is in Mexico and the US, but cheese dishes in
>Mexican cooking generally have some Spanish rather than native origin.


I'm talking Spanish, as in Spain, I know N Americans often talk
of C American food as Spanish, but that's not what i'm at here.
It is however interesting that cooked cheese is so common in
Mexican food but so rare in Spanish.
--
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Nancy Young surprised us with

> fundido


Melted. Like the French fondue. As referred to in another post, more
appropriate for melting metals, compare the English "foundry".

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Following up to Christopher Green

>If this ever was popular in any of Spain's cuisines, it seems to have
>vanished long ago, though. I'm just conjecturing, because anything to
>do with cheese just doesn't sound indigenous to Mexico.


Cheese making was introduced to Mexico by the Spanish, as you
guessed, it seems they have "run with it"! After all, Mexican
cuisine bears little resemblance to Spanish cuisine, even with
the colonial link, just look at the small penetration of hot
chilli spice into Spanish cuisines. I did however note a Mexican
restaurant in Andalucia recently, and doing well.
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>The memory fails me every now and again, but I would have to say that,
>as I recall, every tortilla de huevos I've ever had in Spain included
>cheese of one sort or another among the ingredients.


Actually, the inclusion of cheese in the tortilla española positively never
happens. Occasionally someone will add pimientos or shrimp. Not cheese.

Neil


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Following up to June Hughes

>>you would dare tell a Basque his food is French? :-)


>Some Basques are French.


But do they accept they are French?
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In message >, The Reids
> writes
>Following up to June Hughes
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>>>you would dare tell a Basque his food is French? :-)

>
>>Some Basques are French.

>
>But do they accept they are French?


I don't know. An au pair of mine from 1976, with whom I still keep in
touch, is a Basque and her mother lived in France during WWII. She
hated the French Basques. I don't know what they thought of her but I
like her
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The Reids wrote:
> Following up to Richard Periut
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>
>>French styles in the Basque country

>
>
> you would dare tell a Basque his food is French? :-)

French style; after all, the Northern part of the Basque country is French.

Rich

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Following up to June Hughes

>>But do they accept they are French?

>
>I don't know. An au pair of mine from 1976, with whom I still keep in
>touch, is a Basque and her mother lived in France during WWII. She
>hated the French Basques. I don't know what they thought of her but I
>like her


So is she a spanish basque who doesn't like french basques? I
wonder if the item of female clothing has anything to do with the
Basques?
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Following up to June Hughes

>>But do they accept they are French?

>
>I don't know. An au pair of mine from 1976, with whom I still keep in
>touch, is a Basque and her mother lived in France during WWII. She
>hated the French Basques. I don't know what they thought of her but I
>like her


So is she a spanish basque who doesn't like french basques? I
wonder if the item of female clothing has anything to do with the
Basques?
--
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