We have a new Korean restaurant here. I have not been there yet but
it's getting really good reviews.
I like what Korean food I've had so I'm eager to try this one out.

It's called The Stone Pot, for the traditional way of cooking in a
stone pot.

http://www.koreanstonepot.com/p/menu.html

Those of you who are more expert than I, how does the menu look to
you?

On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 08:55:39 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
> wrote:

>We have a new Korean restaurant here. I have not been there yet but
>it's getting really good reviews.
>I like what Korean food I've had so I'm eager to try this one out.
>
>It's called The Stone Pot, for the traditional way of cooking in a
>stone pot.
>
>http://www.koreanstonepot.com/p/menu.html
>
>Those of you who are more expert than I, how does the menu look to
>you?

Looks like a very limited menu; no appetizers, desserts, beverages,
probably no alcohol. If their font size is indicative of their
portion size it's very pricy... $18 for a bowl of tofu broth and a
portion of fried rice seems exhorbitant. The only way to know is for
you to give it a try.

On 11/3/2010 11:55 AM, ImStillMags wrote:
> We have a new Korean restaurant here. I have not been there yet but
> it's getting really good reviews.
> I like what Korean food I've had so I'm eager to try this one out.
>
> It's called The Stone Pot, for the traditional way of cooking in a
> stone pot.
>
> http://www.koreanstonepot.com/p/menu.html
>
> Those of you who are more expert than I, how does the menu look to
> you?

I see that have kimchi jiigae which is my favorite cold weather Korean
dish. Outside of Korea the best place I found is in NYC's Koreatown (the
area near/southwest of the Empire State Building).

Prices seem comparable. Also a tray of banchan should be brought out as
an traditional accompaniment to the eaten with the rice:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banchan

On 11/3/2010 12:43 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 08:55:39 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
> > wrote:
>
>> We have a new Korean restaurant here. I have not been there yet but
>> it's getting really good reviews.
>> I like what Korean food I've had so I'm eager to try this one out.
>>
>> It's called The Stone Pot, for the traditional way of cooking in a
>> stone pot.
>>
>> http://www.koreanstonepot.com/p/menu.html
>>
>> Those of you who are more expert than I, how does the menu look to
>> you?
>
> Looks like a very limited menu; no appetizers, desserts, beverages,
> probably no alcohol. If their font size is indicative of their
> portion size it's very pricy... $18 for a bowl of tofu broth and a
> portion of fried rice seems exhorbitant. The only way to know is for
> you to give it a try.

You do know that appetizers and desserts are a non-Asian concept?

Anyone who knows anything about a typical Korean restaurant menu would
not expect either.

Also they would know that the fried rice is an entree not the scoop of
fried rice you might get in an Americanized place down at the mall.

On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 08:55:39 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
> wrote:

>We have a new Korean restaurant here. I have not been there yet but
>it's getting really good reviews.
>I like what Korean food I've had so I'm eager to try this one out.
>
>It's called The Stone Pot, for the traditional way of cooking in a
>stone pot.
>
>http://www.koreanstonepot.com/p/menu.html
>
>Those of you who are more expert than I, how does the menu look to
>you?

Looks pretty good, and somewhat cheaper than we get around here in
northern NJ, but if I am unable to prepare the bulgogi at a grill or
brazier at the table myself, I ain't going. That is one of my favorite
dishes at a Korean restaurant. I love the stuff.

Do they make their own tofu?

Boron

On Nov 3, 12:43*pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 08:55:39 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
>
> > wrote:
> >We have a new Korean restaurant here. *I have not been there yet but
> >it's getting really good reviews.
> >I like what Korean food I've had so I'm eager to try this one out.
>
> >It's called The Stone Pot, for the traditional way of cooking in a
> >stone pot.
>
> >http://www.koreanstonepot.com/p/menu.html
>
> >Those of you who are more expert than I, *how does the menu look to
> >you?
>
> Looks like a very limited menu; no appetizers,

There are a few. Gyoza, for example. Korean meals aren't
organized like Western meals. You need to expand
your provincial outlook.

>desserts, beverages,
> probably no alcohol. *

Sad, if you can't get through a meal without alcohol.

As George pointed out, desserts are not an Asian concept. Stupid
round-eyes.

>If their font size is indicative of their
> portion size it's very pricy... $18 for a bowl of tofu broth and a
> portion of fried rice seems exhorbitant. *The only way to know is for
> you to give it a try.

I think the soups are meal-sized portions. Maybe Mags will
have more intel on this after she goes.

That said, the prices seem a wee bit high, but most of the Korean
restaurants around here are small Mom & Pop places.

If I were going there, it would be Spicy Pork for me. If I didn't
feeli like spicy food, I'd get bulgogi.

For me, though, it's all about the banchan. A good set of
banchan makes or breaks the meal for me.

Cindy Hamilton

On 11/3/2010 1:36 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 08:55:39 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
> > wrote:
>
>> We have a new Korean restaurant here. I have not been there yet but
>> it's getting really good reviews.
>> I like what Korean food I've had so I'm eager to try this one out.
>>
>> It's called The Stone Pot, for the traditional way of cooking in a
>> stone pot.
>>
>> http://www.koreanstonepot.com/p/menu.html
>>
>> Those of you who are more expert than I, how does the menu look to
>> you?
>
> Looks pretty good, and somewhat cheaper than we get around here in
> northern NJ, but if I am unable to prepare the bulgogi at a grill or
> brazier at the table myself, I ain't going. That is one of my favorite
> dishes at a Korean restaurant. I love the stuff.
>
> Do they make their own tofu?
>
> Boron

I noticed for some reason the North Jersey places are often spendier
than places over in NYC. I did find a good place (reasonable prices,
good authentic food) over in Fort Lee not far from the GWB one time but
went back to look for it on another occasion and couldn't find it.

My favorite place in Manhattan is Woorjiip. It is in Koreatown and very
easy to find. Koreatown starts on 5th Ave and it is the first business
on the north side of 32nd street going west. They have maybe 6 tables
with grills. My favorite dish there is kimchi jiigae. Their bulgogi is
good too.

On 11/3/2010 3:12 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Nov 3, 12:43 pm, Brooklyn1<Gravesend1> wrote:
>> On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 08:55:39 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
>>
>> > wrote:
>>> We have a new Korean restaurant here. I have not been there yet but
>>> it's getting really good reviews.
>>> I like what Korean food I've had so I'm eager to try this one out.
>>
>>> It's called The Stone Pot, for the traditional way of cooking in a
>>> stone pot.
>>
>>> http://www.koreanstonepot.com/p/menu.html
>>
>>> Those of you who are more expert than I, how does the menu look to
>>> you?
>>
>> Looks like a very limited menu; no appetizers,
>
> There are a few. Gyoza, for example. Korean meals aren't
> organized like Western meals. You need to expand
> your provincial outlook.
>
>> desserts, beverages,
>> probably no alcohol.
>
> Sad, if you can't get through a meal without alcohol.
>
> As George pointed out, desserts are not an Asian concept. Stupid
> round-eyes.
>
>> If their font size is indicative of their
>> portion size it's very pricy... $18 for a bowl of tofu broth and a
>> portion of fried rice seems exhorbitant. The only way to know is for
>> you to give it a try.
>
> I think the soups are meal-sized portions. Maybe Mags will
> have more intel on this after she goes.

That would be my expectation too from the many Korean places I have
eaten in.

>
> That said, the prices seem a wee bit high, but most of the Korean
> restaurants around here are small Mom& Pop places.
>
> If I were going there, it would be Spicy Pork for me. If I didn't
> feeli like spicy food, I'd get bulgogi.
>
> For me, though, it's all about the banchan. A good set of
> banchan makes or breaks the meal for me.

Same here.


>
> Cindy Hamilton

On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 15:32:06 -0400, George >
wrote:

>On 11/3/2010 1:36 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
>> On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 08:55:39 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> We have a new Korean restaurant here. I have not been there yet but
>>> it's getting really good reviews.
>>> I like what Korean food I've had so I'm eager to try this one out.
>>>
>>> It's called The Stone Pot, for the traditional way of cooking in a
>>> stone pot.
>>>
>>> http://www.koreanstonepot.com/p/menu.html
>>>
>>> Those of you who are more expert than I, how does the menu look to
>>> you?
>>
>> Looks pretty good, and somewhat cheaper than we get around here in
>> northern NJ, but if I am unable to prepare the bulgogi at a grill or
>> brazier at the table myself, I ain't going. That is one of my favorite
>> dishes at a Korean restaurant. I love the stuff.
>>
>> Do they make their own tofu?
>>
>> Boron
>
>I noticed for some reason the North Jersey places are often spendier
>than places over in NYC. I did find a good place (reasonable prices,
>good authentic food) over in Fort Lee not far from the GWB one time but
>went back to look for it on another occasion and couldn't find it.

I, too, have found very authentic and moderately priced Korean food in
Ft. Lee. There is a much larger Korean population there than where I
am near the Passaic-Morris border.

Great places down near Edison, too, and cheaper there, too. It is down
there we encountered our first bulgogi grill fired by live coals. We
were very careful about crossing our legs and shuffling out feet at
that table, let me assure you.
>
>My favorite place in Manhattan is Woorjiip. It is in Koreatown and very
>easy to find. Koreatown starts on 5th Ave and it is the first business
>on the north side of 32nd street going west. They have maybe 6 tables
>with grills. My favorite dish there is kimchi jiigae. Their bulgogi is
>good too.


I will keep that one in mind, although I try to hit a different place
every time I eat in the city. When I lived there, I allowed myself to
have favorite restaurants, but now I like to play the field when I go
in. I cannot even remember the last time I went to a specific NYC
restaurant more than a 3rd time over the past decade.

Boron

On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 15:36:38 -0400, George >
wrote:

>On 11/3/2010 3:12 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>> For me, though, it's all about the banchan. A good set of
>> banchan makes or breaks the meal for me.
>
>Same here.
>
Oh yeah!

On 11/3/2010 7:25 AM, George wrote:

> You do know that appetizers and desserts are a non-Asian concept?

This is true - how unfortunate. :-)

>
> Anyone who knows anything about a typical Korean restaurant menu would
> not expect either.

I went to a Korean restaurant in the 80's with my wife on the mainland
and it was pretty funny. They thought I was the Korean dude because of
my Asian good looks but I didn't know crap about Korean food back then.
My wife who is a white person that was raised by a Korean step-mom, was
familiar with the menu items but the waiter kept looking to me to order.
The only thing I was able to give him was dumb looks. My wife had to do
the ordering which was the first surprise for the staff. My wife was
pretty disappointed with the hot sauce that she requested - it was some
sort of watered down stuff. When she asked for some real hot sauce, the
server looked disoriented and embarrassed and ran off to the kitchen.

The first time my wife ordered bibimbap it was jarring to see her mix up
the whole thing before eating it. I thought she messed up the dish! I'm
too wild about the Korean's fondness for stainless steel serving bowls
either.

The stone pots are actually carved out of sold rock and is kind of a
nice gimmick for restaurants. Near as I can figure, the whole point of
the heated bowl is to produce the crispy rice at the bottom of the bowl.
If I recall correctly, the stone pot is a relatively new introduction to
Korean cooking. Even the Koreans think it's a cool idea. Personally, I'd
rather go to a Korean fast food joint rather than a restaurant.

>
> Also they would know that the fried rice is an entree not the scoop of
> fried rice you might get in an Americanized place down at the mall.

George wrote:

> My favorite place in Manhattan is Woorjiip. It is in Koreatown and very
> easy to find. Koreatown starts on 5th Ave and it is the first business
> on the north side of 32nd street going west. They have maybe 6 tables
> with grills. My favorite dish there is kimchi jiigae. Their bulgogi is
> good too.

Kang Suh, at Broadway and 32nd street ROCKS!

On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 12:12:01 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Nov 3, 12:43*pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>> On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 08:55:39 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
>>
>> > wrote:
>> >We have a new Korean restaurant here. *I have not been there yet but
>> >it's getting really good reviews.
>> >I like what Korean food I've had so I'm eager to try this one out.
>>
>> >It's called The Stone Pot, for the traditional way of cooking in a
>> >stone pot.
>>
>> >http://www.koreanstonepot.com/p/menu.html
>>
>> >Those of you who are more expert than I, *how does the menu look to
>> >you?
>>
>> Looks like a very limited menu; no appetizers,
>
>There are a few. Gyoza, for example. Korean meals aren't
>organized like Western meals. You need to expand
>your provincial outlook.
>
>>desserts, beverages,
>> probably no alcohol. *
>
>Sad, if you can't get through a meal without alcohol.
>
>As George pointed out, desserts are not an Asian concept. Stupid
>round-eyes.
>
>>If their font size is indicative of their
>> portion size it's very pricy... $18 for a bowl of tofu broth and a
>> portion of fried rice seems exhorbitant. *The only way to know is for
>> you to give it a try.
>
>I think the soups are meal-sized portions. Maybe Mags will
>have more intel on this after she goes.
>
>That said, the prices seem a wee bit high, but most of the Korean
>restaurants around here are small Mom & Pop places.


NYC has dozens of Korean eateries, many different price ranges. They
definitely have much more diverse menus and they serve appetizers and
desserts... most serve alcohol. I never heard something so idiotic as
Asian restaurants don't serve desserts... every Chinese restauarnt
I've ever been to anywhere serves desserts... I guess in your world
China is in Australia. I don't know why you're defending a restaurant
you've never been to nor has the OP... can't you just be honest and
say try it.

ImStillMags > wrote:

> http://www.koreanstonepot.com/p/menu.html
>
> Those of you who are more expert than I, how does the menu look to
> you?

The menu looks limited but nice. I'd go there. That the first six
soups are variations on the sundubu (tofu) jjiggae theme does not
necessarily apear typical to me. Of course, kimchi jjiggae also usually
contains sundubu. All the soups listed are generally served as a main
dish and this is not clear from the menu. One dish, gyoza, has a
Japanese name, for some reason. It should be properly called gun mandu
(or goon mandoo) in Korean.

Victor

On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 17:38:36 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:

> every Chinese restauarnt
> I've ever been to anywhere serves desserts...

That must be New York China. I have never seen anything beyond
fried banana or [often complimentary] orange slices in any Chinese
restaurant.

I suppose in Sheldon's Reality they all have a dessert cart full of
French pastries and confections.

IOW: you're full of shit.

-sw

On 11/3/2010 5:25 PM, Goomba wrote:
> George wrote:
>
>> My favorite place in Manhattan is Woorjiip. It is in Koreatown and
>> very easy to find. Koreatown starts on 5th Ave and it is the first
>> business on the north side of 32nd street going west. They have maybe
>> 6 tables with grills. My favorite dish there is kimchi jiigae. Their
>> bulgogi is good too.
>
> Kang Suh, at Broadway and 32nd street ROCKS!

What do you like about it?

Steve wrote:

> I have never seen anything beyond fried banana or [often complimentary]
> orange slices in any Chinese restaurant.
>
> I suppose in Sheldon's Reality they all have a dessert cart full of
> French pastries and confections.
>
> IOW: you're full of shit.

In Auburn, Maine, I used to frequent a Chinese restaurant which had
profiteroles on the menu. You could have them either with vanilla or ginger
ice cream.

But places like that are few and far between.

Bob

On Nov 4, 4:34*am, Sqwertz > wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 17:38:36 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > every Chinese restauarnt
> > I've ever been to anywhere serves desserts...
>
> That must be New York China. *I have never seen anything beyond
> fried banana or [often complimentary] orange slices in any Chinese
> restaurant. *
>
> I suppose in Sheldon's Reality they all have a dessert cart full of
> French pastries and confections.
>
> IOW: you're full of shit.

Here in the Midwest, Americanized Chinese restaurants typically
offer ice cream for dessert. Vanilla and ginger are common
flavors.

Nobody pretends that it's anything but a sop to the Americans,
though.

Cindy Hamilton

On Nov 3, 6:06*pm, George > wrote:
> On 11/3/2010 5:50 PM, Ranée at Arabian Knits wrote:
>
> > In article
> > >,
> > * Cindy > *wrote:
>
> >> As George pointed out, desserts are not an Asian concept. *Stupid
> >> round-eyes.
>
> > * * Liking dessert makes westerners stupid? *And deserving of a racial
> > epithet?
>
> > * * What about my husband who has almond eyes, but is western European in
> > descent? *What about me with round eyes, but of Saudi descent? *Does the
> > answer change if I admit that we both like dessert?
>
> I believe she was just giving omniscient Shelden who verified from his
> comments that he has never been in a real Asian restaurant a well
> deserved dig...

Got it in one. Thanks. If we'd been talking about a Chinese
restaurant,
I might have called him Gwai Lo.

Cindy Hamilton

On 11/4/2010 8:39 AM, Bob Terwilliger wrote:
> Steve wrote:
>
>> I have never seen anything beyond fried banana or [often complimentary]
>> orange slices in any Chinese restaurant.
>>
>> I suppose in Sheldon's Reality they all have a dessert cart full of
>> French pastries and confections.
>>
>> IOW: you're full of shit.
>
> In Auburn, Maine, I used to frequent a Chinese restaurant which had
> profiteroles on the menu. You could have them either with vanilla or ginger
> ice cream.
>
> But places like that are few and far between.
>
> Bob
>
>
Sure, there are any number of non-traditional permutations including
those Chinese buffet places that have sprung up all over the place that
have tater tots and cheap pizza in addition to the trays of industrial
Chinese food. Thats fine but anyone who knows anything about Asian
cuisine knows that the concept of appetizers or desserts isn't part of a
meal and wouldn't even note the absence of appetizers or desserts on an
Asian restaurant menu.

And if commenting on Korean dishes they would also know that the stew
dish for example is a meal because it would include a bowl of rice and
banchan. Give me that and some tea and I am full.

George wrote on Thu, 04 Nov 2010 09:49:54 -0400:

> On 11/4/2010 8:39 AM, Bob Terwilliger wrote:
>> Steve wrote:
>>
>>> I have never seen anything beyond fried banana or [often
>>> complimentary] orange slices in any Chinese restaurant.
>>>
>>> I suppose in Sheldon's Reality they all have a dessert cart full of
>>> French pastries and confections.
>>>
>>> IOW: you're full of shit.
>>
>> In Auburn, Maine, I used to frequent a Chinese restaurant
>> which had profiteroles on the menu. You could have them
>> either with vanilla or ginger ice cream.
>>
>> But places like that are few and far between.
>>
>> Bob
>>
> Sure, there are any number of non-traditional permutations
> including those Chinese buffet places that have sprung up all over the
> place that have tater tots and cheap pizza in
> addition to the trays of industrial Chinese food. Thats fine
> but anyone who knows anything about Asian cuisine knows that
> the concept of appetizers or desserts isn't part of a meal and
> wouldn't even note the absence of appetizers or desserts on an
> Asian restaurant menu.

Traditionally, a Chinese dinner is eaten family style with several
shared dishes and does not lend itself to a separation into appetizers,
entrees and desserts. There is also the Western notion that a Chinese
meal ends with soup but that's a misapprehension from the fact that the
broth is drunk at the end of cooking of a Mongolian Hot-Pot.

I don't think that fried banana is a really Chinese dish but I've seen
it on menus for over 40 years.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

On Nov 4, 6:49*am, George > wrote:
> On 11/4/2010 8:39 AM, Bob Terwilliger wrote:
>
> > Steve wrote:
>
> >> I have never seen anything beyond fried banana or [often complimentary]
> >> orange slices in any Chinese restaurant.
>
> >> I suppose in Sheldon's Reality they all have a dessert cart full of
> >> French pastries and confections.
>
> >> IOW: you're full of shit.
>
> > In Auburn, Maine, I used to frequent a Chinese restaurant which had
> > profiteroles on the menu. You could have them either with vanilla or ginger
> > ice cream.
>
> > But places like that are few and far between.
>
> > Bob
>
> Sure, there are any number of non-traditional permutations including
> those Chinese buffet places that have sprung up all over the place that
> have tater tots and cheap pizza in addition to the trays of industrial
> Chinese food. Thats fine but anyone who knows anything about Asian
> cuisine knows that the concept of appetizers or desserts isn't part of a
> meal and wouldn't even note the absence of appetizers or desserts on an
> Asian restaurant menu.
>
> And if commenting on Korean dishes they would also know that the stew
> dish for example is a meal because it would include a bowl of rice and
> banchan. Give me that and some tea and I am full.

I found an Urbanspoon review.

http://www.urbanspoon.com/r/88/15290...ant-Bellingham

I'm going to make a visit soon and I'll let you guys know my
thoughts. I'm not a Korean expert so
I'll take your comments as guidance.

On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 02:34:43 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 17:38:36 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> every Chinese restauarnt
>> I've ever been to anywhere serves desserts...
>
>That must be New York China. I have never seen anything beyond
>fried banana or [often complimentary] orange slices in any Chinese
>restaurant.
>
>I suppose in Sheldon's Reality they all have a dessert cart full of
>French pastries and confections.
>
>IOW: you're full of shit.
>
>-sw

You need to get out more, texo-mexo... every China Town restaurant in
the US and Canada has a dessert section on their menu... the only
Chinese food you've ever eaten was from a crappy take out, those don't
serve desserts other than canned sodas. Typical Chinese restaurant
desserts are ice cream (vanilla, chocolate, pistachio, jello of the
day, almond cookie, lychee (canned/dried), kumquat (candied), any
combo thereof... and naturally fortune cookies. It's very obvious
that the texo-mexo dwarf has never seen the inside of a Chinese
restaurant. I'm positive that there are no Chinese restaurants in
Texass... even your so-called take-outs serve texo-mexo/chinko...
Spanishfly lice! LOL-LOL

On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 07:02:48 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
> wrote:

>On Nov 4, 6:49*am, George > wrote:
>> On 11/4/2010 8:39 AM, Bob Terwilliger wrote:
>>
>> > Steve wrote:
>>
>> >> I have never seen anything beyond fried banana or [often complimentary]
>> >> orange slices in any Chinese restaurant.
>>
>> >> I suppose in Sheldon's Reality they all have a dessert cart full of
>> >> French pastries and confections.
>>
>> >> IOW: you're full of shit.
>>
>> > In Auburn, Maine, I used to frequent a Chinese restaurant which had
>> > profiteroles on the menu. You could have them either with vanilla or ginger
>> > ice cream.
>>
>> > But places like that are few and far between.
>>
>> > Bob
>>
>> Sure, there are any number of non-traditional permutations including
>> those Chinese buffet places that have sprung up all over the place that
>> have tater tots and cheap pizza in addition to the trays of industrial
>> Chinese food. Thats fine but anyone who knows anything about Asian
>> cuisine knows that the concept of appetizers or desserts isn't part of a
>> meal and wouldn't even note the absence of appetizers or desserts on an
>> Asian restaurant menu.
>>
>> And if commenting on Korean dishes they would also know that the stew
>> dish for example is a meal because it would include a bowl of rice and
>> banchan. Give me that and some tea and I am full.
>
>I found an Urbanspoon review.
>
>http://www.urbanspoon.com/r/88/15290...ant-Bellingham
>
>I'm going to make a visit soon and I'll let you guys know my
>thoughts. I'm not a Korean expert so
>I'll take your comments as guidance.

The first thing the first reviewer described was the first thing
served were the appetizers! LOL-LOL

Of course they couldn't possibly be appetizers because there are no
appetizers in all of Asia... what moroons! Yoose live in some
hillybilly backwoods burg and think if it's not served there it can't
possibly exist... there likely aren't any Koreans within a hundred
miles of your front door.

On 2010-11-04, ImStillMags > wrote:

> I found an Urbanspoon review.
>
> http://www.urbanspoon.com/r/88/15290...ant-Bellingham

That first comment sounds assuring.

I'd eaten at several "Korean" places, mostly gimmicky. Mongolian BBQ
type food, one with individual braziers at each table and buffet of
raw foods to burn at yer leisure. All were crap. The one seemingly
authentic place I finally ate at, I got one large dish of nicely
cooked spiced beef strips and a dozen small sides of pickled veggies
and dipping sauces. Excellent!

nb

On 11/4/2010 2:39 AM, Bob Terwilliger wrote:
> Steve wrote:
>
>> I have never seen anything beyond fried banana or [often complimentary]
>> orange slices in any Chinese restaurant.
>>
>> I suppose in Sheldon's Reality they all have a dessert cart full of
>> French pastries and confections.
>>
>> IOW: you're full of shit.
>
> In Auburn, Maine, I used to frequent a Chinese restaurant which had
> profiteroles on the menu. You could have them either with vanilla or ginger
> ice cream.
>
> But places like that are few and far between.

Mostly, Asian folks don't get along very well with ice cream or cream or
milk and ending a meal with a sweet dish is kind of a weird concept.
OTOH, there's a restaurant in our little burg that's famous for its
desserts.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bigdadd...n/photostream/

They make a soybean custard that's right up there with a creme brulee in
rich creamy goodness yet contains no cream, nor would you guess that soy
beans had anything to do with it. Of course, you're gonna think that I'm
making this up. I can hardly believe it myself.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bigdadd...n/photostream/

>
> Bob
>
>

On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 17:38:36 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:

>
> NYC has dozens of Korean eateries, many different price ranges. They
> definitely have much more diverse menus and they serve appetizers and
> desserts... most serve alcohol. I never heard something so idiotic as
> Asian restaurants don't serve desserts... every Chinese restauarnt
> I've ever been to anywhere serves desserts...

....and they're mostly an orange slice or almond fortune cookie. once
again, you don't know what the **** you're talking about.

blake

On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 07:02:48 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags wrote:

> On Nov 4, 6:49*am, George > wrote:
>> On 11/4/2010 8:39 AM, Bob Terwilliger wrote:
>>
>>> Steve wrote:
>>
>>>> I have never seen anything beyond fried banana or [often complimentary]
>>>> orange slices in any Chinese restaurant.
>>
>>>> I suppose in Sheldon's Reality they all have a dessert cart full of
>>>> French pastries and confections.
>>
>>>> IOW: you're full of shit.
>>
>>> In Auburn, Maine, I used to frequent a Chinese restaurant which had
>>> profiteroles on the menu. You could have them either with vanilla or ginger
>>> ice cream.
>>
>>> But places like that are few and far between.
>>
>>> Bob
>>
>> Sure, there are any number of non-traditional permutations including
>> those Chinese buffet places that have sprung up all over the place that
>> have tater tots and cheap pizza in addition to the trays of industrial
>> Chinese food. Thats fine but anyone who knows anything about Asian
>> cuisine knows that the concept of appetizers or desserts isn't part of a
>> meal and wouldn't even note the absence of appetizers or desserts on an
>> Asian restaurant menu.
>>
>> And if commenting on Korean dishes they would also know that the stew
>> dish for example is a meal because it would include a bowl of rice and
>> banchan. Give me that and some tea and I am full.
>
> I found an Urbanspoon review.
>
> http://www.urbanspoon.com/r/88/15290...ant-Bellingham
>
> I'm going to make a visit soon and I'll let you guys know my
> thoughts. I'm not a Korean expert so
> I'll take your comments as guidance.

i like the korean broiled meat dishes. if you're hesitant about the
cuisine, they would not be too 'foreign' and they are usually quite good.

your pal,
blake

On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 06:23:47 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On Nov 4, 4:34*am, Sqwertz > wrote:
>> On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 17:38:36 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> every Chinese restauarnt
>>> I've ever been to anywhere serves desserts...
>>
>> That must be New York China. *I have never seen anything beyond
>> fried banana or [often complimentary] orange slices in any Chinese
>> restaurant. *
>>
>> I suppose in Sheldon's Reality they all have a dessert cart full of
>> French pastries and confections.
>>
>> IOW: you're full of shit.
>
> Here in the Midwest, Americanized Chinese restaurants typically
> offer ice cream for dessert. Vanilla and ginger are common
> flavors.
>
> Nobody pretends that it's anything but a sop to the Americans,
> though.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

sheldon does.

your pal,
blake

On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 14:33:23 -0400, blake murphy
> wrote:

> i like the korean broiled meat dishes. if you're hesitant about the
> cuisine, they would not be too 'foreign' and they are usually quite good.

We never eat in Korean restaurants. My husband hates the idea of
cooking a meal at the table (even if it's not ours). He hates the
smell, the smoke, everything about it. We don't go to Japanese
restaurants if they bring a hibachi to any table for the same reason.
Back when they were new, we never went to a restaurant with an open
kitchen either. They're so pervasive now, that sometimes he doesn't
have a choice but now that I think about it... we mainly do not eat in
that style of restaurant.

--

Never trust a dog to watch your food.

On Nov 4, 2:46*pm, sf > wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 14:33:23 -0400, blake murphy
>
> > wrote:
> > i like the korean broiled meat dishes. *if you're hesitant about the
> > cuisine, they would not be too 'foreign' and they are usually quite good.
>
> We never eat in Korean restaurants. *My husband hates the idea of
> cooking a meal at the table (even if it's not ours). *He hates the
> smell, the smoke, everything about it. *We don't go to Japanese
> restaurants if they bring a hibachi to any table for the same reason.
> Back when they were new, we never went to a restaurant with an open
> kitchen either. *They're so pervasive now, that sometimes he doesn't
> have a choice but now that I think about it... we mainly do not eat in
> that style of restaurant.

There are Korean restaurants that do all of the cooking in the
kitchen. Of the half-dozen Korean restaurants in my area,
only one features cooking at the table.

Of course, some of them are little more than diners, and
you can see them cooking from right across the room.
Or, in one case, right across the counter, since it
really is an old diner.

Cindy Hamilton

In article
>,
Ranée at Arabian Knits > wrote:

> In article >,
> George > wrote:
>
> > On 11/3/2010 5:50 PM, Ranée at Arabian Knits wrote:
> > > In article
> > > >,
> > > Cindy > wrote:
> > >
> > >> As George pointed out, desserts are not an Asian concept. Stupid
> > >> round-eyes.
> > >
> > > Liking dessert makes westerners stupid? And deserving of a racial
> > > epithet?
> > >
> > > What about my husband who has almond eyes, but is western European in
> > > descent? What about me with round eyes, but of Saudi descent? Does the
> > > answer change if I admit that we both like dessert?
> >
> > I believe she was just giving omniscient Shelden who verified from his
> > comments that he has never been in a real Asian restaurant a well
> > deserved dig...
>
> Okay. I was confused. I still like dessert, though. Even after
> Korean food.

I'm not so sure. Just because someone deserves a nasty comment doesn't
mean it's OK to make one. And just because someone is a racist doesn't
mean it's OK to make racist comments about them.

But I guess when I'm perfect, I'll be allowed to do it?

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 14:13:41 -0700, Dan Abel > wrote:

> In article
> >,
> Ranée at Arabian Knits > wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > George > wrote:
> >
> > > On 11/3/2010 5:50 PM, Ranée at Arabian Knits wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > >,
> > > > Cindy > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> As George pointed out, desserts are not an Asian concept. Stupid
> > > >> round-eyes.
> > > >
> > > > Liking dessert makes westerners stupid? And deserving of a racial
> > > > epithet?
> > > >
> > > > What about my husband who has almond eyes, but is western European in
> > > > descent? What about me with round eyes, but of Saudi descent? Does the
> > > > answer change if I admit that we both like dessert?
> > >
> > > I believe she was just giving omniscient Shelden who verified from his
> > > comments that he has never been in a real Asian restaurant a well
> > > deserved dig...
> >
> > Okay. I was confused. I still like dessert, though. Even after
> > Korean food.
>
> I'm not so sure. Just because someone deserves a nasty comment doesn't
> mean it's OK to make one. And just because someone is a racist doesn't
> mean it's OK to make racist comments about them.
>
> But I guess when I'm perfect, I'll be allowed to do it?

Besides, he had it wrong. They call us "foreigners". I looked it up.
They seem to be pretty much nondiscriminatory about who a foreigner is
too. It can be another person of 100% Korean heritage who is a
citizen of another country. We aren't called "round eyes" in China
either. They call us "big nose". Now you know.

--

Never trust a dog to watch your food.

Clueless AOL newbie Sheldon "Pussy" Katz blathered:

> every China Town restaurant in the US and Canada has a dessert section on
> their menu

That's a lie.

Bob

On 11/4/2010 1:20 PM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 14:13:41 -0700, Dan > wrote:
>
>> In article
>> >,
>> Ranée at Arabian > wrote:
>>
>>> In >,
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/3/2010 5:50 PM, Ranée at Arabian Knits wrote:
>>>>> In article
>>>>> >,
>>>>> Cindy > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> As George pointed out, desserts are not an Asian concept. Stupid
>>>>>> round-eyes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Liking dessert makes westerners stupid? And deserving of a racial
>>>>> epithet?
>>>>>
>>>>> What about my husband who has almond eyes, but is western European in
>>>>> descent? What about me with round eyes, but of Saudi descent? Does the
>>>>> answer change if I admit that we both like dessert?
>>>>
>>>> I believe she was just giving omniscient Shelden who verified from his
>>>> comments that he has never been in a real Asian restaurant a well
>>>> deserved dig...
>>>
>>> Okay. I was confused. I still like dessert, though. Even after
>>> Korean food.
>>
>> I'm not so sure. Just because someone deserves a nasty comment doesn't
>> mean it's OK to make one. And just because someone is a racist doesn't
>> mean it's OK to make racist comments about them.
>>
>> But I guess when I'm perfect, I'll be allowed to do it?
>
> Besides, he had it wrong. They call us "foreigners". I looked it up.
> They seem to be pretty much nondiscriminatory about who a foreigner is
> too. It can be another person of 100% Korean heritage who is a
> citizen of another country. We aren't called "round eyes" in China
> either. They call us "big nose". Now you know.
>

It makes me cringe when I see how Americans are portrayed in Asian films
but that's mostly how folks of one culture view other cultures - in the
most simplified of ways. I don't care much for how the Japanese and
Chinese and Koreans portray each other in their films. Even I can tell
that it's simply not true. I think all this will change as we get
widespread interaction between East and West and learn more about each
other. At the moment, our ignorance about the people that live on this
Earth is gosh darn embarrassing.

On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 10:33:36 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:

> On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 02:34:43 -0600, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 17:38:36 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>>> every Chinese restauarnt
>>> I've ever been to anywhere serves desserts...
>>
>>That must be New York China. I have never seen anything beyond
>>fried banana or [often complimentary] orange slices in any Chinese
>>restaurant.
>>
>>I suppose in Sheldon's Reality they all have a dessert cart full of
>>French pastries and confections.
>>
>>IOW: you're full of shit.
>>
>>-sw
>
> You need to get out more, texo-mexo... every China Town restaurant in
> the US and Canada has a dessert section on their menu...

I wanted to pick one at random in New York, but I don't know any.
But since you mentioned chinatown, we have 2 restaurants named
"China Town" here in Austin, owned by different people.

Lets go with those two that *you* chose by mentioning "chinatown".

http://www.chinatown-downtown.com/

Hmm. Nope. No desserts there.

Lets try the other....

http://www.chinatownaustin.com/

Huh. No desserts there either.

Note that they distinguish between side dishes and appetizers as
well. In China dishes are not served in courses as we know them.
They alternate "warming" and "cooling" dishes depending on the
people being served. Which is too much for your little mind to
comprehend. Just know that you're wrong. We do.

-sw

On 11/4/2010 9:30 PM, Bob Terwilliger wrote:
> Clueless AOL newbie Sheldon "Pussy" Katz blathered:
>
>> every China Town restaurant in the US and Canada has a dessert section on
>> their menu
>
> That's a lie.
>
> Bob
>
>

But Shelden is omniscient so it must be true....

And folks who actually go out to restaurants and experience more
traditional Asian cuisine are clearly making it all up.

On 11/5/2010 12:23 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 10:33:36 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 02:34:43 -0600, >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 17:38:36 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>
>>>> every Chinese restauarnt
>>>> I've ever been to anywhere serves desserts...
>>>
>>> That must be New York China. I have never seen anything beyond
>>> fried banana or [often complimentary] orange slices in any Chinese
>>> restaurant.
>>>
>>> I suppose in Sheldon's Reality they all have a dessert cart full of
>>> French pastries and confections.
>>>
>>> IOW: you're full of shit.
>>>
>>> -sw
>>
>> You need to get out more, texo-mexo... every China Town restaurant in
>> the US and Canada has a dessert section on their menu...
>
> I wanted to pick one at random in New York, but I don't know any.
> But since you mentioned chinatown, we have 2 restaurants named
> "China Town" here in Austin, owned by different people.
>
> Lets go with those two that *you* chose by mentioning "chinatown".
>
> http://www.chinatown-downtown.com/
>
> Hmm. Nope. No desserts there.
>
> Lets try the other....
>
> http://www.chinatownaustin.com/
>
> Huh. No desserts there either.
>
> Note that they distinguish between side dishes and appetizers as
> well. In China dishes are not served in courses as we know them.
> They alternate "warming" and "cooling" dishes depending on the
> people being served. Which is too much for your little mind to
> comprehend. Just know that you're wrong. We do.
>
> -sw

No particular "Chinatown" was mentioned but guessing it is probably NYC
since Sheldon's experience seems to be from 25 years ago when he lived
there.


I routinely go to at least a dozen restaurants in NYC Chinatown I, II
and III and have probably been to maybe 25 more and none of them have
desserts.

Desserts are something you get in the places that cater to Western folks
and can vary from a dish of ice cream to trays of cheap pastries in
those "Chinese" buffet places next to the walmart.

Typical menu:

http://www.menupages.com/restaurants...oodletown/menu

No appetizers or desserts and the place is renowned for being classic
Shanghai cuisine and has been there forever.


http://www.menupages.com/restaurants/super-taste/menu

Classic Fujianese hand pulled noodle shop. They don't seem to know
anything about appetizers or desserts.

On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 09:17:42 -0400, George >
wrote:

> On 11/4/2010 9:30 PM, Bob Terwilliger wrote:
> > Clueless AOL newbie Sheldon "Pussy" Katz blathered:
> >
> >> every China Town restaurant in the US and Canada has a dessert section on
> >> their menu
> >
> > That's a lie.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >
>
> But Shelden is omniscient so it must be true....
>
> And folks who actually go out to restaurants and experience more
> traditional Asian cuisine are clearly making it all up.

Dessert isn't something I order in a Chinese restaurant, so I need to
pay attention next time. I know we get fortune cookies and slices of
orange with the bill, but I think they usually have ice cream on hand
too - probably as a nod to the kids and those who might want a little
something sweet to round out their meal. They aren't stupid. They
don't want you to walk out of the restaurant and down the street to
the ice cream shop when they could have made a few more $ if they had
some plain vanilla to put in a bowl and serve you.

--

Never trust a dog to watch your food.

sf wrote on Fri, 05 Nov 2010 08:10:22 -0700:

>> On 11/4/2010 9:30 PM, Bob Terwilliger wrote:
> >> Clueless AOL newbie Sheldon "Pussy" Katz blathered:
> >>
> >>> every China Town restaurant in the US and Canada has a
> >>> dessert section on their menu
> >>
> >> That's a lie.
> >>
> >> Bob
> >>
>> But Shelden is omniscient so it must be true....
>>
>> And folks who actually go out to restaurants and experience
>> more traditional Asian cuisine are clearly making it all up.

> Dessert isn't something I order in a Chinese restaurant, so I
> need to pay attention next time. I know we get fortune
> cookies and slices of orange with the bill, but I think they
> usually have ice cream on hand too - probably as a nod to the
> kids and those who might want a little something sweet to
> round out their meal. They aren't stupid. They don't want
> you to walk out of the restaurant and down the street to the
> ice cream shop when they could have made a few more $ if they
> had some plain vanilla to put in a bowl and serve you.

Yes, despite complaints of Westerners, I've hardly ever noticed Chinese
businesses indulging in stubborn ethnic purity where money is concerned.
My local Chinese supermarket has Filipino and Japanese groceries. It is
my usual source for genuine Panko and restores my faith in human nature.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not