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"Andy" > wrote in message ...
> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
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>> I didn't think that you were. Angela was not allowed any fast food
>> for the first few years of her life. She also didn't know what the
>> ice cream truck was. She just thought it was a truck that played
>> music.

>
>
> Julie,
>
> We took vacation road trips, visiting national parks. Mom and Pop's
> treat to us AND them, for which we were thankful!!!
>
> Once we pulled into a McD and I was so eager to try them. First time!!!
> I remember it vividly!
>
> I asked for a hamburger and fries. I didn't like ANYTHING back then!
>
> After driving thru, down the road the "score" was handed out.
>
> I took a bite of my hamburger and it had pickles and onions in it. I
> screamed bloody murder. I begged them to turn back but kid power being
> what it was, I lost the battle! I cried for miles!!!
>
> I didn't like McD ever since!


My parents used to take us to Shakees quite a bit. That's a pizza parlor
that might still be in some areas. They showed really old movies in there
that you could watch while you ate. You could also watch the make the
pizza.

I flat out refused to eat the pizza! I didn't realize until years later
that it wasn't pizza in and of itself that I hated. But the sausage and
black olive pizza that my parents insisted on getting. More recently they
have switched to Canadian Bacon and pineapple.

I learned through trial and error that the only pizza I really like (but I
could still live without it) are plain cheese, Margharita and perhaps some
pine nuts on top. Although I like vegetables and olives, I do not like them
on a pizza! I also like the taco pizza that some places make but to me
that's not like pizza. But I digress.

When they took us to Shakees, I refused to eat anything there. So they got
me a burger. It had to be a plain one. I would not eat ketchup, mustard,
pickles. I might have eaten onions had they been on there. I don't know.
I was never fed any onions as a child aside from those nasty dehydrated
ones. My mom doesn't like onions but she would use those in meatloaf. My
dad also convinced me that I needed a double burger. That was two meat
patties.

My parents said they had asked permission to bring the burger into Shakees.
You can not do that here in WA. It violates health codes. But apparently
in KS you could do that, at least at that time.

The only thing I can think of is that I must have been really desperate to
have eaten that burger because I really disliked burgers as a child. I also
refused to eat any French fries unless they came from McDonalds. And I
would not eat fried chicken or hot dogs. My mom loved going to hot dog
places. Luckily they usually had chili and I would eat that. At KFC I just
ate the mashed potatoes. We didn't get KFC very often but it was within
walking distance of our house. Now it's an Ezell's which I hear is no good.
That location anyway...


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> On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 21:27:56 -0700 (PDT), projectile vomit chick
> > wrote:
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>>On Nov 4, 6:55 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>> No matter where I dine, I tend not to order things off the menu as is. I
>>> merely look at the menu to see what they offer and then I piece a meal

> -->> together from that.
>>
>>You've probably ate a lot of adulterated food over the years.....

>
> She figured it out long before she was diagnosed. Not that she says
> "I was allergic to this" or that back when she was a kid, but she
> posts her food preferences of "way back when" and they don't equate
> with what a non-allergic person (or someone with textural aversions)
> would say.


I discovered the food allergies maybe 4 years ago. I don't remember exactly
when. I was allergic to milk as a baby but my mom then assumed I had
outgrown it. I don't know. I was allergic to it again, but then after
staying away for it for all those years, the last test revealed that I am no
longer allergic. Still allergic to eggs.

I do have strong aversions to some foods and food textures as does my
brother. Actually I think he is worse off than I am. There are very few
foods he will eat. He won't even LOOK at a mushroom.

Did you see that recent show of Beverly Hill's Chefs (or something similar)?
Christopher Knight (Peter Brady of The Brady Bunch) threw a party for his
wife who has taste and textural issues with foods. He wanted to expand what
she was eating so insisted they include some foods she didn't like. Beans
were one food she didn't like. They did a white chili and the poor woman
pretty much gagged on it. But she did try it.

I happen to like all beans, but I know people who will not eat lima beans or
black eyed peas because of the texture.


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> "Bryan" > wrote in message
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> ...
> The bigger problem with the Happy Meal is that they bundle caloric
> beverages (sugar sodas) into it. *The rest is the stupidity of the
> parents, many of whom reject fast food, but who still keep
> hydrogenated fats in their pantries. *My biggest problem with kids'
> meal toys is crappy, Chinese made toys that just go straight to
> landfills.
>
> ---
>
> You can always get a diet drink with a Happy Meal. *You can also get milk or
> juice but perhaps at some places you pay a slightly higher amount.



But what kid chooses milk? My son grew up on diet soda, but most
don't, and juice is just about as bad as soda as far as sugar goes.

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> "Bryan" > wrote in message
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> ...
> The bigger problem with the Happy Meal is that they bundle caloric
> beverages (sugar sodas) into it. The rest is the stupidity of the
> parents, many of whom reject fast food, but who still keep
> hydrogenated fats in their pantries. My biggest problem with kids'
> meal toys is crappy, Chinese made toys that just go straight to
> landfills.
>
> ---
>
> You can always get a diet drink with a Happy Meal. You can also get milk
> or
> juice but perhaps at some places you pay a slightly higher amount.



But what kid chooses milk? My son grew up on diet soda, but most
don't, and juice is just about as bad as soda as far as sugar goes.

---

I know kids and even adults who like milk. I am not one of them and neither
was my daughter. I don't personally think milk is all that healthy so I
never forced her to drink it. My parents used to force me to drink it and
finally at about age 16 a Dr. told them to stop giving it to me. Instantly
my face cleared up.




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> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>
>>
>> "Andy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I didn't think that you were. Angela was not allowed any fast food
>>>> for the first few years of her life. She also didn't know what the
>>>> ice cream truck was. She just thought it was a truck that played
>>>> music.
>>>
>>>
>>> Julie,
>>>
>>> We took vacation road trips, visiting national parks. Mom and Pop's
>>> treat to us AND them, for which we were thankful!!!
>>>
>>> Once we pulled into a McD and I was so eager to try them. First
>>> time!!! I remember it vividly!
>>>
>>> I asked for a hamburger and fries. I didn't like ANYTHING back then!
>>>
>>> After driving thru, down the road the "score" was handed out.
>>>
>>> I took a bite of my hamburger and it had pickles and onions in it. I
>>> screamed bloody murder. I begged them to turn back but kid power
>>> being what it was, I lost the battle! I cried for miles!!!
>>>
>>> I didn't like McD ever since!

>>
>> My parents used to take us to Shakees quite a bit. That's a pizza
>> parlor that might still be in some areas. They showed really old
>> movies in there that you could watch while you ate. You could also
>> watch the make the pizza.
>>
>> I flat out refused to eat the pizza! I didn't realize until years
>> later that it wasn't pizza in and of itself that I hated. But the
>> sausage and black olive pizza that my parents insisted on getting.
>> More recently they have switched to Canadian Bacon and pineapple.
>>
>> I learned through trial and error that the only pizza I really like
>> (but I could still live without it) are plain cheese, Margharita and
>> perhaps some pine nuts on top. Although I like vegetables and olives,
>> I do not like them on a pizza! I also like the taco pizza that some
>> places make but to me that's not like pizza. But I digress.
>>
>> When they took us to Shakees, I refused to eat anything there. So
>> they got me a burger. It had to be a plain one. I would not eat
>> ketchup, mustard, pickles. I might have eaten onions had they been on
>> there. I don't know. I was never fed any onions as a child aside from
>> those nasty dehydrated ones. My mom doesn't like onions but she would
>> use those in meatloaf. My dad also convinced me that I needed a
>> double burger. That was two meat patties.
>>
>> My parents said they had asked permission to bring the burger into
>> Shakees. You can not do that here in WA. It violates health codes.
>> But apparently in KS you could do that, at least at that time.
>>
>> The only thing I can think of is that I must have been really
>> desperate to have eaten that burger because I really disliked burgers
>> as a child. I also refused to eat any French fries unless they came
>> from McDonalds. And I would not eat fried chicken or hot dogs. My
>> mom loved going to hot dog places. Luckily they usually had chili and
>> I would eat that. At KFC I just ate the mashed potatoes. We didn't
>> get KFC very often but it was within walking distance of our house.
>> Now it's an Ezell's which I hear is no good. That location anyway...

>
>
> Julie,
>
> I never pictured you for a picky eater such as myself!!!


My whole family is picky. My dad used to take his fork to any unfamiliar
food, digging through it looking for spices. He would want to know exactly
what was in it before he would touch it!


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>> My parents used to take us to Shakees quite a bit.

>
>
> Julie,
>
> Shakees, were those the cheap-o road stops on the interstates across
> country?
>
> I forget. It's been a while.
>

No, that was Stuckeys. I don't know if they're around any more. Shakees
was pizza. They may have had something else on the menu but I only remember
the pizza. There used to be one in Seattle. I ate there once. I don't
think there are any more in this state but I did look them up online maybe a
year or two ago and there were still some around. They had stained glass
windows made of big circles of colored glass.


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> Stukees!!!


Yeah.


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> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> "Ema Nymton" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > San Francisco banned fast food restaurants from giving away toys in
>> > Happy
>> > Meals, BK Kids Meal, etc. Will this make a difference, because the food
>> > is
>> > still being served as usual.

>>
>> I doubt if it will make a difference. We don't eat much fast food but
>> when
>> Angela was little, we did buy the toys. Most places would just sell you
>> the
>> toy for a dollar or two. The Burger King here where we tried to just buy
>> the toy said they could not do that and we would have to get the meal.
>> Perhaps if we spoke to a manager we would have been told otherwise, but I
>> didn't go in to get the toy. My dad did. He got a diet drink, threw out
>> the meal and gave the toy to my daughter.
>>
>> Thankfully she is old enough now that she doesn't want such toys.
>>
>> So what I am saying is for us, while the appeal *was* the toys, it in no
>> way
>> shape or form led us to eating that crappy food.

>
> On the other hand I remember a 26 year old PhD insisting that we go to
> McDonalds to get the happy meal with the Legos, back when that was the
> toy. And she did eat the food.


I have gotten the toys for myself. I used to like the Madame Alexander
dolls, Hello Kitty and Littlest Pet Shop. I don't get them any more. I
have enough junk in the house.


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On Fri, 5 Nov 2010 01:56:29 -0700, "Julie Bove"
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> I don't think I've seen any free food but I have seen free coffee. We've
> made several cross country moves so have seen plenty of rest stops. Some
> states are better than others.


Haven't seen free coffee either. I was surprised enough to see rest
stops with their own cleaning staff and supply room.

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> I don't care much for people telling other people how to act or think or
> eat or cook or how fast a piece should be played or what they should be
> selling.


We have a few of them here.

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On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 17:17:09 -0500, Andy wrote:

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> The S.F. Board of Supervisors has a severely myopic view of reality.
>
> They get to craft such a law AND THEN vote to enact it with an 8-3 vote?
>
> Abuse of power! Power they shouldn't be entitled to! EVER!!!
>
> Frikkin' Kalifornia!!!
>
> Andy


'majority rules' is an abuse of power?

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On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 04:32:54 -0500, Andy wrote:

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>>
>> The only thing I can think of is that I must have been really
>> desperate to have eaten that burger because I really disliked burgers
>> as a child. I also refused to eat any French fries unless they came
>> from McDonalds. And I would not eat fried chicken or hot dogs. My
>> mom loved going to hot dog places. Luckily they usually had chili and
>> I would eat that. At KFC I just ate the mashed potatoes. We didn't
>> get KFC very often but it was within walking distance of our house.
>> Now it's an Ezell's which I hear is no good. That location anyway...

>
> Julie,
>
> I never pictured you for a picky eater such as myself!!!
>
> Best,
>
> Andy


a truly picky eater wouldn't touch one of your breakfasts.

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On 11/5/2010 5:22 AM, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 00:13:25 -1000, > wrote:
>
>> I don't care much for people telling other people how to act or think or
>> eat or cook or how fast a piece should be played or what they should be
>> selling.

>
> We have a few of them here.
>


I have noticed this. :-)
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> sf > wrote:
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>> I honestly can't say how kids operate. You're more experienced than
>> me by three.

>
> Or five. ;-)
>
>> Both of my kids needed to be told to try new things. I had the three
>> bite rule... they took three bites, not nibbles, and swallowed - then
>> they could quit eating if they still didn't like it.

>
> I don't think ours had to be told to try new things, exactly, but
> they had to take a thank you portion of any food. We also have the
> three bite rule, but that is after they have shown that they aren't
> interested in eating, and they are not sick, and if they don't choose
> reasonable sized bites, we choose the bite size for them.
>
> I'm trying to remember how we handled new foods with Alexander and
> Dominic, because Alexander was our first and Dominic was our pickiest.
> We fed Alexander all that nasty baby food junk, but by the time we had
> Dominic, we just mashed up whatever we had. He had texture hang ups, so
> he didn't eat solid foods until he was ready to eat table food as we
> did. By the time we had Elijah, we pretty much had it settled that our
> children would just eat what we ate. When we had more than three, there
> was just no way I was going to cater four (or more) different meals each
> time we sat down. Our children all know my speech: My job is to
> provide nourishing food for you, whether you eat it or not is your own
> decision. I honestly think it just never occurred to them that they
> could refuse any food because of this. They certainly wouldn't ask for
> another meal. It helps that their dad praises my cooking and tells them
> how fortunate they are to have a mother who prepares such good food for
> them. We've also taught them that when they are offered something as an
> option the only acceptable responses are yes please or no thank you - we
> had some times when we'd offer something (or worse, someone else would)
> and they'd ask for a different thing that wasn't offered or ask what
> else there was. Same thing if given a choice between more than one
> thing, choose from among them, don't ask for something that isn't being
> offered. I just think that's good manners.
>
> But, then, I also try not to make meals that everyone hates, and
> limit the stuff that I know isn't a favorite for particular people. I
> don't make sweet potatoes as much as I like, or squash or buy aged gouda
> as much, things like that, because I know they aren't as popular with
> the rest of the family. OTOH, I never buy mushrooms because I don't
> care for them. I do want them to learn to accept with grace anything
> served them, I think that will help them as guests of others, teach them
> respect for the person who took the trouble of cooking for them and will
> help them if they ever travel overseas or host people from other
> cultures.
>
>> DD used to look
>> at anything new and tell me "Whatever that is, I don't like it". It
>> was very difficult to do the follow through with her. My son (the
>> oldest) was easier, not easy... easier. He told me after he was a
>> father himself that he hated it because after the third bite more
>> often than not *I* was right, but he pretended not to like it to save
>> face... which explained why he didn't protest the next time that item
>> was served.

>
> That's hilarious!
>
>> His son, however, was influenced by someone who took every new food
>> item away as soon as he made a face. So, aversion to anything new was
>> reinforced. It was very hard to overcome and he's still learning to
>> give new foods a try before rejecting them. On the plus side... he's
>> also the kid who loved sushi before he was two. So there's always
>> hope.

>
> I'm surprised at what children will choose if they are simply given
> foods and allowed to discover what they like. Our children ask for
> things like pumpkin soup, lima beans, beans and squash, horseradish. I
> think it helps that they get to help make meals and that we grow some of
> what we eat. The like eating the things we put together.


I bought a food mill for Angela. My intent was to feed her whatever we were
eating, just all mixed up. I never used the mill. I guess I just didn't
have the energy.

We tried the baby food. Mostly she didn't like it. Then at about 4 or 5
months old, she just grabbed some food off my plate and stuck it in her
mouth. I just gave up then and gave her the real thing, restricting some
things until after a year old for fear of allergies. Like whole eggs and
peanuts.

I can remember her eating a whole plate of brushetta at less than a year
old. Husband and I didn't even have a chance at it! She then ate her whole
kid's meal. She had quite an appetite. She also liked to eat the fancy
looking kale that restaurants often used as a garnish back in those days.
Haven't seen any kale on plates recently.




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>> I can remember her eating a whole plate of brushetta at less than a year
>> old. Husband and I didn't even have a chance at it! She then ate her
>> whole
>> kid's meal. She had quite an appetite. She also liked to eat the fancy
>> looking kale that restaurants often used as a garnish back in those days.
>> Haven't seen any kale on plates recently.

>
> Dominic, who had the food texture issues, surprised some friends of
> my FIL by eating almost an entire plate of smoked trout they had put out
> for us. They apologized that they didn't have any hors d'oeuvres for
> the children. We told them to watch and see. Dominic was two at the
> time.


Angela is an only child so wasn't used to sharing with other children. My
husband took her to this place when she was 2. It was some sort of YMCA
thing but it was being held in an empty apartment in the military housing.
They had some sort of teething biscuits or cookies for all the kids. My
husband said Angela just kept taking them and eating them and there wasn't
enough for all of the other kids. Apparently he never thought to stop her.
He just thought it was funny.


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> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
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>> I don't think she will ever
>> like raw tomatoes.

>
> Our eldest son had to have tomatoes taken from him because he was
> eating so many of them as a toddler that the juice was giving him a rash
> on his face and chin. He had zero self control about them. He was two,
> though.


My mom said I did that with carrots. I would turn orange. I have always
loved vegetables!


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"dsi1" > wrote
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> My understanding of the ordnance is that these "Happy" meals have to meet
> certain requirements in order to have a toy as a premium: a cap on the
> maximum calories and they must have a fruit and vegetable. The board
> couldn't dictate McDonalds menu so they're using kid's toys as leverage.
> Sounds like a dirty commie plot to me. :-)
>


Talk about chipping away at citizen's rights. I agree that most fast food
is not so healthy, but if I want to eat lard and sugar sandwiches, I should
be able to make that decision on my own. Next step will be regulating the
home. If mom does not cook a nutritious enough meal, she won't be able to
play with the toys in the bedroom tonight.

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"Ranée at Arabian Knits" > wrote in message
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> In article >,
> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>
>> I don't think she will ever
>> like raw tomatoes.

>
> Our eldest son had to have tomatoes taken from him because he was
> eating so many of them as a toddler that the juice was giving him a rash
> on his face and chin. He had zero self control about them. He was two,
> though.
>
> Regards,
> Ranee @ Arabian Knits


My sis used to love raw tomatos. My dad would buy one of those pint sized
woven containers, and the next day, they'd be gone. Then one day, she bit
into one and was face to face with half a worm. She spit and gagged, and I
laughed and laughed. She never ate tomatoes again without slicing them, and
slowed down on total consumption altogether, once she started eating them
again after about a year.

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On 11/5/2010 6:27 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
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> "dsi1" > wrote
>>
>> My understanding of the ordnance is that these "Happy" meals have to
>> meet certain requirements in order to have a toy as a premium: a cap
>> on the maximum calories and they must have a fruit and vegetable. The
>> board couldn't dictate McDonalds menu so they're using kid's toys as
>> leverage. Sounds like a dirty commie plot to me. :-)
>>

>
> Talk about chipping away at citizen's rights. I agree that most fast
> food is not so healthy, but if I want to eat lard and sugar sandwiches,
> I should be able to make that decision on my own. Next step will be
> regulating the home. If mom does not cook a nutritious enough meal, she
> won't be able to play with the toys in the bedroom tonight.


Hmmm... lard and sugar...! My Filipino friend used to butter up a slice
of white bread and sprinkle white sugar on top - an improvised
ensaymada. It's off the wall but pretty tasty and makes no pretense at
being nutritious - not like that poser cinnamon toast. :-)

We're getting to be a nation of rules and regulation - ugh! That's the
breaks - people just like to get into other people's business.


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On Nov 5, 11:27*pm, "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote:
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>
>
>
> > My understanding of the ordnance is that these "Happy" meals have to meet
> > certain requirements in order to have a toy as a premium: a cap on the
> > maximum calories and they must have a fruit and vegetable. The board
> > couldn't dictate McDonalds menu so they're using kid's toys as leverage..
> > Sounds like a dirty commie plot to me. :-)

>
> Talk about chipping away at citizen's rights. *I agree that most fast food
> is not so healthy, but if I want to eat lard and sugar sandwiches, I should
> be able to make that decision on my own. * *Next step will be regulating the
> home. *If mom does not cook a nutritious enough meal, she won't be able to
> play with the toys in the bedroom tonight.


The problem with your suggestion is that the party of (some say
excessive) consumer protection (Democrats) is not the same party as
the party of legislating sexual restrictions (Republicans).

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> *"Julie Bove" > wrote:
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> > *I don't think she will ever
> > like raw tomatoes.

>
> * *Our eldest son had to have tomatoes taken from him because he was
> eating so many of them as a toddler that the juice was giving him a rash
> on his face and chin. *He had zero self control about them. *He was two,
> though.


I was that way too, except those bumps on the tongue were SO
unpleasant that they'd put the brakes on. I'm still pretty crazy for
them, and I hurt myself with hot chilies on a regular basis.
>
> Regards,
> Ranee @ Arabian Knits
>

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>"dsi1" > wrote
>>
>> My understanding of the ordnance is that these "Happy" meals have to meet
>> certain requirements in order to have a toy as a premium: a cap on the
>> maximum calories and they must have a fruit and vegetable. The board
>> couldn't dictate McDonalds menu so they're using kid's toys as leverage.
>> Sounds like a dirty commie plot to me. :-)
>>

>
>Talk about chipping away at citizen's rights. I agree that most fast food
>is not so healthy, but if I want to eat lard and sugar sandwiches, I should
>be able to make that decision on my own. Next step will be regulating the
>home. If mom does not cook a nutritious enough meal, she won't be able to
>play with the toys in the bedroom tonight.


Next thing those Whacko Kalyfornicators will insist on removing the
toy from Crackerjacks... those sicko left coast *******'s Happy Meals
will include a joint... hey, it's veggie!
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On Nov 6, 10:12*am, Omelet > wrote:
> In article >,
> *"Julie Bove" > wrote:
>
> > I happen to like all beans, but I know people who will not eat lima beans or
> > black eyed peas because of the texture.

>
> That describes me. ;-) *I guess I am texture sensitive. *I love all
> beans except Butter Beans, Lima Beans and Black Eyed Peas.
>
> Oh, and Garbanzos... <shudder>


I hate great northern beans almost as much as I hate Republicans.
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> Oh, and Garbanzos... <shudder>


I like hummus but hate whole garbanzos. They feel and taste like
sand.

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On Nov 6, 11:08*am, Omelet > wrote:
> In article
> >,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Bryan > wrote:
> > On Nov 6, 10:12*am, Omelet > wrote:
> > > In article >,
> > > *"Julie Bove" > wrote:

>
> > > > I happen to like all beans, but I know people who will not eat lima beans
> > > > or
> > > > black eyed peas because of the texture.

>
> > > That describes me. ;-) *I guess I am texture sensitive. *I love all
> > > beans except Butter Beans, Lima Beans and Black Eyed Peas.

>
> > > Oh, and Garbanzos... <shudder>

>
> > I hate great northern beans almost as much as I hate Republicans.
> > > --
> > > Peace! Om

>
> > --Bryan

>
> Hm. *I find Northern Beans to have a smooth creamy texture.
> That might be what you dislike?


The stench. They smell completely different from every other beans.

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>

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> wrote:

> On Nov 6, 11:08*am, Omelet > wrote:
> > In article
> >
> > Hm. *I find Northern Beans to have a smooth creamy texture.
> > That might be what you dislike?

>
> The stench. They smell completely different from every other beans.
>

You can tell Great Northern beans just by the smell? No bean smells
very good until something else is added to the cooking water, IMO.

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"dsi1" > wrote in message
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> On 11/5/2010 6:27 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> "dsi1" > wrote
>>>
>>> My understanding of the ordnance is that these "Happy" meals have to
>>> meet certain requirements in order to have a toy as a premium: a cap
>>> on the maximum calories and they must have a fruit and vegetable. The
>>> board couldn't dictate McDonalds menu so they're using kid's toys as
>>> leverage. Sounds like a dirty commie plot to me. :-)
>>>

>>
>> Talk about chipping away at citizen's rights. I agree that most fast
>> food is not so healthy, but if I want to eat lard and sugar sandwiches,
>> I should be able to make that decision on my own. Next step will be
>> regulating the home. If mom does not cook a nutritious enough meal, she
>> won't be able to play with the toys in the bedroom tonight.

>
> Hmmm... lard and sugar...! My Filipino friend used to butter up a slice of
> white bread and sprinkle white sugar on top - an improvised ensaymada.
> It's off the wall but pretty tasty and makes no pretense at being
> nutritious - not like that poser cinnamon toast. :-)
>
> We're getting to be a nation of rules and regulation - ugh! That's the
> breaks - people just like to get into other people's business.


My friend used to have sugar toast for breakfast. Like cinnamon toast but
with no cinnamon.


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> On Sat, 6 Nov 2010 09:30:02 -0700 (PDT), Bryan
> > wrote:
>
>> On Nov 6, 11:08 am, Omelet > wrote:
>> > In article
>> >
>> > Hm. I find Northern Beans to have a smooth creamy texture.
>> > That might be what you dislike?

>>
>> The stench. They smell completely different from every other beans.
>>

> You can tell Great Northern beans just by the smell? No bean smells
> very good until something else is added to the cooking water, IMO.


Oh I love the smell of beans!


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>> Oh, and Garbanzos... <shudder>

>
> I like hummus but hate whole garbanzos. They feel and taste like
> sand.


I don't mind the texture but find they are lacking in flavor. They are not
my favorite bean but I'll still eat em.




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>
>"sf" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sat, 6 Nov 2010 09:30:02 -0700 (PDT), Bryan
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Nov 6, 11:08 am, Omelet > wrote:
>>> > In article
>>> >
>>> > Hm. I find Northern Beans to have a smooth creamy texture.
>>> > That might be what you dislike?
>>>
>>> The stench. They smell completely different from every other beans.
>>>

>> You can tell Great Northern beans just by the smell? No bean smells
>> very good until something else is added to the cooking water, IMO.

>
>Oh I love the smell of beans!


Got my 16 quart pot out on the stove with two big bags of 15 bean soup
mix... come by tomorrow for a sniff n' stir cook in
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On Sat, 6 Nov 2010 12:02:01 -0700, "Julie Bove"
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>
>"sf" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 09:12:21 -0600, Omelet >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, and Garbanzos... <shudder>

>>
>> I like hummus but hate whole garbanzos. They feel and taste like
>> sand.

>
>I don't mind the texture but find they are lacking in flavor. They are not
>my favorite bean but I'll still eat em.


I despise hummus.. but I like garbonzos as one of the components of
marinated bean salad... and roasted garbonzos are better and more
addictive than beer nuts: http://askgeorgie.com/?p=943
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On 2010-11-06, Ranée at Arabian Knits > wrote:

> I love the flavor of garbanzos. Maybe it's just my genes.


....or jes acquired taste. I used to hate garbanzos. I would even
pick them out of a good 4 bean salad. I think it was the texture that
put me off, initially. Very meally. I no longer mind. Now, I love
'em and will eat them right out of the can.

I'm currently working on a way to make falafel with only garbonzos,
which are much more common than fava beans, where I live.

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On Nov 6, 11:43*am, sf > wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Nov 2010 09:30:02 -0700 (PDT), Bryan
>
> > wrote:
> > On Nov 6, 11:08*am, Omelet > wrote:
> > > In article

>
> > > Hm. *I find Northern Beans to have a smooth creamy texture.
> > > That might be what you dislike?

>
> > The stench. *They smell completely different from every other beans.

>
> You can tell Great Northern beans just by the smell? *No bean smells
> very good until something else is added to the cooking water, IMO.
>

Great Northerns? Definitely. I have no idea what the unique compound
is, but nothing else smells like them to me.
Funny, but they are also called "white kidney" beans, and I like the
smell of regular red kidney beans.

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> On Sat, 6 Nov 2010 12:00:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
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>
>>
>>"sf" > wrote in message
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>>> On Sat, 6 Nov 2010 09:30:02 -0700 (PDT), Bryan
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Nov 6, 11:08 am, Omelet > wrote:
>>>> > In article
>>>> >
>>>> > Hm. I find Northern Beans to have a smooth creamy texture.
>>>> > That might be what you dislike?
>>>>
>>>> The stench. They smell completely different from every other beans.
>>>>
>>> You can tell Great Northern beans just by the smell? No bean smells
>>> very good until something else is added to the cooking water, IMO.

>>
>>Oh I love the smell of beans!

>
> Got my 16 quart pot out on the stove with two big bags of 15 bean soup
> mix... come by tomorrow for a sniff n' stir cook in


Mmmm....

Sadly, I don't make many beans any more. Daughter won't usually eat them.
She did have baked beans tonight at a buffet. But if I make them at home,
she won't. She will eat the canned ones though. I think mainly because
they give out samples at Costco and she will usually like whatever they give
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> Sadly, I don't make many beans any more. Daughter won't usually eat them.
> She did have baked beans tonight at a buffet. But if I make them at home,
> she won't. She will eat the canned ones though. I think mainly because
> they give out samples at Costco and she will usually like whatever they give
> out.



Kids!

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On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 09:05:24 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:

> On Sat, 6 Nov 2010 00:27:56 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"dsi1" > wrote
>>>
>>> My understanding of the ordnance is that these "Happy" meals have to meet
>>> certain requirements in order to have a toy as a premium: a cap on the
>>> maximum calories and they must have a fruit and vegetable. The board
>>> couldn't dictate McDonalds menu so they're using kid's toys as leverage.
>>> Sounds like a dirty commie plot to me. :-)
>>>

>>
>>Talk about chipping away at citizen's rights. I agree that most fast food
>>is not so healthy, but if I want to eat lard and sugar sandwiches, I should
>>be able to make that decision on my own. Next step will be regulating the
>>home. If mom does not cook a nutritious enough meal, she won't be able to
>>play with the toys in the bedroom tonight.

>
> Next thing those Whacko Kalyfornicators will insist on removing the
> toy from Crackerjacks... those sicko left coast *******'s Happy Meals
> will include a joint... hey, it's veggie!


you calling anyone 'sick' is pretty goddamn funny.

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On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 21:25:15 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Sat, 6 Nov 2010 20:46:45 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>
>> Sadly, I don't make many beans any more. Daughter won't usually eat them.
>> She did have baked beans tonight at a buffet. But if I make them at home,
>> she won't. She will eat the canned ones though. I think mainly because
>> they give out samples at Costco and she will usually like whatever they give
>> out.

>
>
>Kids!


No... there's something seriously wrong-headed with that one.
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"Ranée at Arabian Knits" wrote:
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> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
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> > I don't think she will ever
> > like raw tomatoes.

>
> Our eldest son had to have tomatoes taken from him because he was
> eating so many of them as a toddler that the juice was giving him a rash
> on his face and chin. He had zero self control about them. He was two,
> though.



That happened to me as a child, but with oranges We went to visit
relatives in Florida and I just gorged on superfresh oranges and juice.
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