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Ema Nymton wrote:

> George thinks the napkin goes on the right, but I keep telling him the
> napkin goes on the left. When it is time to eat, he moves his over to
> the right, which is fine with me, but when I set the table, it goes on
> the left.


But the actual place it should be when its time to eat is in his lap,
not on either the right nor left.
>
> My mother became a full time alcoholic when I was 11yo, but before she
> started drinking, she drilled us on Emily Post's table settings. When
> we set the table, it had to be correct or else we would hear about it.


Not only was this something we were taught at home, I seem to recall we
learned things like this in school. Probably about the fourth grade when
we also learned how to write proper RSVP notes....sadly a LOST art these
days! Arrrrrrrgh!
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Ophelia wrote:

> I hate having my plate made up for me


Reminds me of Julia Childs' comment on nouvelle cuisine: "It looks so
pretty, you just know somebody's fingers have been all over it."

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First Sycophant wrote:

>>> Here is how I was taught to set a table. To the right of the plate goes
>>> the knife and the spoon (the knife to the inside next to the plate with
>>> the edge facing the left). To the left, salad fork and dinner fork. The
>>> knife and spoon are placed on the folded napkin.


Then Squeaks wrote:

>> "At the left of the plate, the dinner fork; at the right, the dinner
>> knife next to the plate, then the soup spoon or dessert spoon (if
>> necessary) on the outside; butter plate to the left and above the fork
>> with the butter knife laid on it diagonally from the upper left to the
>> lower right; napkin at the left of the fork; salad plate (if necessary);
>> coffee mug or cup and saucer with the spoon goes to the right of the
>> mugs."


To which Sycopant replied in a drug-addled haze:

> Oh cool. My mom got it right. :-)



No, dumbass, your mom taught you to put the napkin on the wrong side of the
plate, and to incorrectly put the knife and spoon on top of it. Could you
POSSIBLY be more stupid?

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On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 15:23:42 -0800, sf > arranged
random neurons and said:

>On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 16:34:01 -0600, Ema Nymton >
>wrote:
>
>> George thinks the napkin goes on the right, but I keep telling him the
>> napkin goes on the left.

>
>Is he left handed or right handed? I've noticed Lefties often do
>things backwards.


Tell me about it. I'm left handed and can testify that if you tell me
to turn right, my instinct is the opposite. Years ago, my Junior
Leaguers put on a Follies to raise money for charity. This was in
upstate New York and we brought in a (cheapo) choreographer to teach
us the dance steps. He would get so frustrated with me that he chalked
an "R" and an "L" on my practice slippers. And he seemed to think my
name was "Goddammit, Squeaks!"

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On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 17:19:22 -0800, "Bob Terwilliger"
> arranged random neurons and said:

>Ophelia wrote:
>
>> I hate having my plate made up for me

>
>Reminds me of Julia Childs' comment on nouvelle cuisine: "It looks so
>pretty, you just know somebody's fingers have been all over it."


<snort!> Hadn't heard that one before, Bob.

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On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 23:01:53 -0800, Terry Pulliam Burd
> wrote:

> Tell me about it. I'm left handed and can testify that if you tell me
> to turn right, my instinct is the opposite. Years ago, my Junior
> Leaguers put on a Follies to raise money for charity. This was in
> upstate New York and we brought in a (cheapo) choreographer to teach
> us the dance steps. He would get so frustrated with me that he chalked
> an "R" and an "L" on my practice slippers. And he seemed to think my
> name was "Goddammit, Squeaks!"


My condolences to both of you!

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"Terry Pulliam Burd" > wrote in message
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> On Tue, 9 Nov 2010 21:49:05 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> arranged random neurons and said:
>
>>I hate having my plate made up for me

>
> I agree, Ophelia. From the time they could sit at the table, I served
> the family, uh, family style. Plating someone else's food seems
> presumptuous. Now, if by "plating" you also mean each person serves
> his or herself from the counters buffet-style, that's another thing,
> but I still wouldn't do it in my house. Just everyone sit your butts
> down and stay sat down until everyone is finished with their meal. Oh,
> and take our a cell phone and start texting and you'll be digging it
> out of the trash can.


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"Terry Pulliam Burd" > wrote in message
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> On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 06:23:46 -0800, "The Ranger"
> > arranged random neurons and said:
>
>>Goomba > wrote in message
...
>>> sf wrote:
>>>> I absolutely hate family style, but I do require a properly set table
>>>> - fork on the left, knife on the right, napkin (folded) and placed
>>>> *under* the fork.

>
>>> Just a small point but... napkins aren't supposed to be under the fork
>>> but
>>> rather on the left side of the fork. You're not supposed to have to move
>>> utensils to get to the napkin, especially since the napkin should be the
>>> first thing touched (when opened up in ones lap) after sitting down.

>>
>>Hmm. The three cookbooks (Pillsbury 1963, BH&G 1959, Betty Crocker 1965,
>>1970) from my Sainted Mother(tm) are incorrect in their
>>display/illustrations and accompanying text if this is true.

>
> Ahem. According to the 16th edition of Emily Post's _Etiquette_, page
> 438 under dinner settings:
>
> "At the left of the plate, the dinner fork; at the right, the dinner
> knife next to the plate, then the soup spoon or dessert spoon (if
> necessary) on the outside; butter plate to the left and above the fork
> with the butter knife laid on it diagonally from the upper left to the
> lower right; napkin at the left of the fork; salad plate (if
> necessary); coffee mug or cup and saucer with the spoon goes to the
> right of the mugs."
>
> Class dismissed.


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>> Yes I do, which is why I prefer to use the ones which present the food in
>> dishes on the table and one can help oneself. I am not a big eater and
>> if I
>> am presented with a full plate I can't eat.
>> --

>
> You'd love American buffet style eating. :-)


Buffets here consist of all the food placed on a long table(s) and people
walk along with their plates and choose what they want.

Ugh! All those people breathing on all that food..........

I must prefer to have dishes on the table and I can take as much or as
little as I want of what I want...


> I only like to go to places that plate the food if I am allowed to make
> menu substitutions... I've noted that more places have been amenable to
> that lately!
>
> As much as I like broccoli for instance, it really makes me ill. Not
> sure why. It was the "house veggie" at our last meal at Chili's. I
> told them it makes me sick. They allowed me to have a nice fresh house
> salad in it's place. :-) And at no extra cost.
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"Terry Pulliam Burd" > wrote in message
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> On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 17:19:22 -0800, "Bob Terwilliger"
> > arranged random neurons and said:
>
>>Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>> I hate having my plate made up for me

>>
>>Reminds me of Julia Childs' comment on nouvelle cuisine: "It looks so
>>pretty, you just know somebody's fingers have been all over it."

>
> <snort!> Hadn't heard that one before, Bob.


Nor I, but it is a good one!!!
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On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 09:35:29 -0000, "Ophelia" >
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> I must prefer to have dishes on the table and I can take as much or as
> little as I want of what I want...


So people not only breath on it, their fingers are all over it too.
How appetizing.

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"sf" > ha scritto nel messaggio > "Ophelia"
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>> I must prefer to have dishes on the table and I can take as much or as >>
>> little as I want of what I want...

>
> So people not only breath on it, their fingers are all over it too.
> How appetizing.


Your family eats with its hands? Saves a ton of dishwashing I bet.


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> "sf" > ha scritto nel messaggio > "Ophelia"
> >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I must prefer to have dishes on the table and I can take as much or as
>>> >> little as I want of what I want...

>>
>> So people not only breath on it, their fingers are all over it too.
>> How appetizing.

>
> Your family eats with its hands? Saves a ton of dishwashing I bet.


....also I am not sure how people sitting around a table, are breathing on it
in the same way as a
with buffet, when *many more people* are *standing* over it.

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Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:

> Tell me about it. I'm left handed and can testify that if you tell me
> to turn right, my instinct is the opposite. Years ago, my Junior
> Leaguers put on a Follies to raise money for charity. This was in
> upstate New York and we brought in a (cheapo) choreographer to teach
> us the dance steps. He would get so frustrated with me that he chalked
> an "R" and an "L" on my practice slippers. And he seemed to think my
> name was "Goddammit, Squeaks!"


Heh. A friend of mine swore she couldn't tell direction because
she was left-handed but the Catholic nuns made her write with
her right hand. You'd better point which way to turn when she
was driving, Turn Left had unpredictable results. Once she spent a
weekend at my place down the shore and called me a couple of
hours after she left ... she'd just gotten home as she got onto the
highway going south for an hour .... she lived north.

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On Nov 10, 6:20*am, "Ophelia" > wrote:
> "Serene Vannoy" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > On 11/09/2010 01:49 PM, Ophelia wrote:

>
> >> I hate having my plate made up for me

>
> > I think that personal preference is certainly part of that decision-making
> > process. If anyone here hated it, I might adjust. *Do you hate it in
> > restaurants, too?

>
> Yes I do, which is why I prefer to use the ones which present the food in
> dishes on the table and one can help oneself.


I've found relatively few restaurants that serve that way.
Chinese restaurants, I suppose, but very few restaurants
serve Western food that way.

>*I am not a big eater and if I
> am presented with a full plate I can't eat.


You mean, if you get a full plate you can't just eat half,
or a quarter, or whatever frraction you want? Huh.

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"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
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> On Nov 10, 6:20 am, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>> "Serene Vannoy" > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>> > On 11/09/2010 01:49 PM, Ophelia wrote:

>>
>> >> I hate having my plate made up for me

>>
>> > I think that personal preference is certainly part of that
>> > decision-making
>> > process. If anyone here hated it, I might adjust. Do you hate it in
>> > restaurants, too?

>>
>> Yes I do, which is why I prefer to use the ones which present the food in
>> dishes on the table and one can help oneself.

>
> I've found relatively few restaurants that serve that way.
> Chinese restaurants, I suppose, but very few restaurants
> serve Western food that way.
>
>> I am not a big eater and if I
>> am presented with a full plate I can't eat.

>
> You mean, if you get a full plate you can't just eat half,
> or a quarter, or whatever frraction you want? Huh.


No It puts me off.... so I just wouldn't go there.


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Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>"Ophelia" wrote:
>> "Serene Vannoy" wrote:
>> >Ophelia wrote:

>>
>> >> I hate having my plate made up for me


Then I guess you never eat at restaurants.

>> > I think that personal preference is certainly part of that decision-making
>> > process. If anyone here hated it, I might adjust. *Do you hate it in
>> > restaurants, too?

>>
>> Yes I do, which is why I prefer to use the ones which present the food in
>> dishes on the table and one can help oneself.


For me that would largely depend on who all I'm dining with... I don't
mind the least if my cats eat the bits I place at the edge of my plate
but I'm not comfortable with a bunch of strangers digging into the
food I'm eventually going to have to eat... I'd much prefer the cook
plating my dish.

>I've found relatively few restaurants that serve that way.
>Chinese restaurants, I suppose, but very few restaurants
>serve Western food that way.


At the Chinese restaurants I've patronized each person chooses their
own dishes from the menu and when served then the person whose dish it
is shares (if they choose to) by serving from their own dishes. If
everyone is going to treat the meal like a free for all then may as
well have gone to a Chinese buffet. I've eaten many times at real
Chinese restaurants with Chinese people. I know that real Chinese
food is served differently but then they don't eat anywhere near the
same kinds of foods served at the American style Chinese eateries...
real Chinese dishes much better lend themselves to community style
dining and the Chinese customs are quite strict about how food is
distributed, typically one or two people are designated to do all the
serving, it's not a grabfest with everyone diving in... and the more
elaborate dishes are served at table by restaurant staff.

>>*I am not a big eater and if I
>> am presented with a full plate I can't eat.

>
>You mean, if you get a full plate you can't just eat half,
>or a quarter, or whatever frraction you want? Huh.


Depending on type of food my mom either plated in the kitchen or
walked around the table serving, she knew exactly what she prepared
and how to distribute it... initial portion size was on the small side
so food didn't get wasted and there was always plenty more keeping
warm in the kitchen... at most catered affairs food is served the same
way, a professional white gloved server goes around the table to each
diner and distributes the food... what yoose refer to as family style
I call eating at the trough, disgustingly unsanitary and survival of
the fittest with the bigger beasts grabbing the choicest parts with no
consideration for others. I don't appreciate everyone at the table
grabbing at my food... I've been served "family style" in other
people's homes and seen people (especially their disgusting kids)
snatching food from platters with their filthy fingers. I can
sometimes accept family style when it's only those who live under that
roof... my mom would sometimes bring platters to the table but still
only she did the serving. I can see family style (sharing from the
same plate) when it's a couple living together but it's definitely
unacceptible with guests/strangers. Even if yoose gals are sleeping
with me, if I gotta wear a condom I certainly don't want yoose
touching my food.
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On Nov 11, 9:24*am, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >"Ophelia" wrote:
> >> "Serene Vannoy" wrote:
> >> >Ophelia wrote:

>
> >> >> I hate having my plate made up for me

>
> Then I guess you never eat at restaurants.
>
> >> > I think that personal preference is certainly part of that decision-making
> >> > process. If anyone here hated it, I might adjust. Do you hate it in
> >> > restaurants, too?

>
> >> Yes I do, which is why I prefer to use the ones which present the food in
> >> dishes on the table and one can help oneself.

>
> For me that would largely depend on who all I'm dining with... I don't
> mind the least if my cats eat the bits I place at the edge of my plate
> but I'm not comfortable with a bunch of strangers digging into the
> food I'm eventually going to have to eat... I'd much prefer the cook
> plating my dish.
>
> >I've found relatively few restaurants that serve that way.
> >Chinese restaurants, I suppose, but very few restaurants
> >serve Western food that way.

>
> At the Chinese restaurants I've patronized each person chooses their
> own dishes from the menu and when served then the person whose dish it
> is shares (if they choose to) by serving from their own dishes. *If
> everyone is going to treat the meal like a free for all then may as
> well have gone to a Chinese buffet. *I've eaten many times at real
> Chinese restaurants with Chinese people. *I know that real Chinese
> food is served differently but then they don't eat anywhere near the
> same kinds of foods served at the American style Chinese eateries...
> real Chinese dishes much better lend themselves to community style
> dining and the Chinese customs are quite strict about how food is
> distributed, typically one or two people are designated to do all the
> serving, it's not a grabfest with everyone diving in... and the more
> elaborate dishes are served at table by restaurant staff.
>
> >> I am not a big eater and if I
> >> am presented with a full plate I can't eat.

>
> >You mean, if you get a full plate you can't just eat half,
> >or a quarter, or whatever frraction you want? *Huh.

>
> Depending on type of food my mom either plated in the kitchen or
> walked around the table serving, she knew exactly what she prepared
> and how to distribute it... initial portion size was on the small side
> so food didn't get wasted and there was always plenty more keeping
> warm in the kitchen... at most catered affairs food is served the same
> way, a professional white gloved server goes around the table to each
> diner and distributes the food... what yoose refer to as family style
> I call eating at the trough, disgustingly unsanitary and survival of
> the fittest with the bigger beasts grabbing the choicest parts with no
> consideration for others. *I don't appreciate everyone at the table
> grabbing at my food... I've been served "family style" in other
> people's homes and seen people (especially their disgusting kids)
> snatching food from platters with their filthy fingers. *I can
> sometimes accept family style when it's only those who live under that
> roof... my mom would sometimes bring platters to the table but still
> only she did the serving. *I can see family style (sharing from the
> same plate) when it's a couple living together but it's definitely
> unacceptible with guests/strangers. *Even if yoose gals are sleeping
> with me, if I gotta wear a condom I certainly don't want yoose
> touching my food.


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On Nov 11, 8:24 am, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> .... and the Chinese customs are quite strict about how food is
> distributed, typically one or two people are designated to do all the
> serving, it's not a grabfest with everyone diving in...


This brought up a memory from childhood. There was a large table with
the whole Chinese family around it, a large lazy susan in the middle.
A platter containing a whole fish, steamed Cantonese style, was
brought out and placed in front of the eldest aunt present. She
motioned to the youngest person present (me) and indicated I should
put my rice bowl on the lazy susan. I did, she rotated it around to
her, then placed choice bits of the fish (probably from the head) in
my rice bowl and rotated it back around to me. Many thanks, great
privileged feelings, I've liked steamed fish ever since. -aem
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Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:>

> I'm left handed and can testify that if you tell me
> to turn right, my instinct is the opposite. Years ago, my Junior
> Leaguers put on a Follies to raise money for charity. This was in
> upstate New York and we brought in a (cheapo) choreographer to teach
> us the dance steps. He would get so frustrated with me that he chalked
> an "R" and an "L" on my practice slippers. And he seemed to think my
> name was "Goddammit, Squeaks!"
>



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On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 09:40:04 -0800, sf wrote:

> On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 12:26:21 -0500, blake murphy
> > wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 07:23:07 -0800, sf wrote:
>>
>>> Must be a Southern thing. I've never heard of it, but Emily Post says
>>> "The napkin is folded or put in a napkin ring and placed either to the
>>> left of the forks or on the center of the dinner plate. Sometimes, a
>>> folded napkin is placed under the forks". She also calls this an
>>> *informal* table setting
>>> http://emilypost.com/component/content/article/371 Placing a napkin
>>> under the fork is more common than old Emily thought, but she ran with
>>> the Rockefellers and Vanderbilts so I don't think she was in touch
>>> with commoners who weren't servants.

>>
>> what, then, should i do with the half-sized paper towels i most often use
>> for a napkin?
>>

> Tuck it under your chin.


i just *knew* there was a simple solution to the problem.

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On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 14:09:39 -0500, Brooklyn1 wrote:

> On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 12:18:54 -0500, blake murphy
> > wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 09 Nov 2010 16:50:37 -0500, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>>> Omelet wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ChattyCathy > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
>>>>
>>>>I'll decorate plates sometimes but it depends on the situation.
>>>>Sometimes I just dish it up but many times, I at least try to plate it
>>>>attractively for dad.
>>>>
>>>>For myself? I don't care...
>>>
>>> You don't value yourself... sad.
>>>
>>> I always do up my plate for presentation even though just me... I even
>>> attractively arrange my cat's fancy feast, each in their own museum
>>> quality bowls, my cats are high class too.

>>
>>très ***.
>>
>>blake

>
> Like you all are virgins and fixed... unlike you they ain't slobs.


yeah, only an utter slob would serve his cats' dinners in less than
museum-quality bowls. but you're kind of a fancy-boy, ain't cha?

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On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 17:19:22 -0800, Bob Terwilliger wrote:

> Ophelia wrote:
>
>> I hate having my plate made up for me

>
> Reminds me of Julia Childs' comment on nouvelle cuisine: "It looks so
> pretty, you just know somebody's fingers have been all over it."
>
> Bob


<snort>

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On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 11:24:15 -0500, Brooklyn1 wrote:

> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>"Ophelia" wrote:
>>> "Serene Vannoy" wrote:
>>> >Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>> >> I hate having my plate made up for me

>
> Then I guess you never eat at restaurants.
>
>>> > I think that personal preference is certainly part of that decision-making
>>> > process. If anyone here hated it, I might adjust. *Do you hate it in
>>> > restaurants, too?
>>>
>>> Yes I do, which is why I prefer to use the ones which present the food in
>>> dishes on the table and one can help oneself.

>
> For me that would largely depend on who all I'm dining with... I don't
> mind the least if my cats eat the bits I place at the edge of my plate


....with paws fresh from the litter box. yum!

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On Nov 11, 2:01*am, Terry Pulliam Burd > wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 15:23:42 -0800, sf > arranged
> random neurons and said:
>
> >On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 16:34:01 -0600, Ema Nymton >
> >wrote:

>
> >> George thinks the napkin goes on the right, but I keep telling him the
> >> napkin goes on the left.

>
> >Is he left handed or right handed? *I've noticed Lefties often do
> >things backwards.

>
> Tell me about it. I'm left handed and can testify that if you tell me
> to turn right, my instinct is the opposite. Years ago, my Junior
> Leaguers put on a Follies to raise money for charity. This was in
> upstate New York and we brought in a (cheapo) choreographer to teach
> us the dance steps. He would get so frustrated with me that he chalked
> an "R" and an "L" on my practice slippers. And he seemed to think my
> name was "Goddammit, Squeaks!"


I'm a lefty, and have no trouble with that. Marching band, folk
dance,
Renaissance, dance: always had an easy time with it.

I'm also good about knowing which compass point I'm facing.

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wrote:

>On Nov 11, 9:24*am, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> >"Ophelia" wrote:
>> >> "Serene Vannoy" wrote:
>> >> >Ophelia wrote:

>>
>> >> >> I hate having my plate made up for me

>>
>> Then I guess you never eat at restaurants.
>>
>> >> > I think that personal preference is certainly part of that decision-making
>> >> > process. If anyone here hated it, I might adjust. Do you hate it in
>> >> > restaurants, too?

>>
>> >> Yes I do, which is why I prefer to use the ones which present the food in
>> >> dishes on the table and one can help oneself.

>>
>> For me that would largely depend on who all I'm dining with... I don't
>> mind the least if my cats eat the bits I place at the edge of my plate
>> but I'm not comfortable with a bunch of strangers digging into the
>> food I'm eventually going to have to eat... I'd much prefer the cook
>> plating my dish.
>>
>> >I've found relatively few restaurants that serve that way.
>> >Chinese restaurants, I suppose, but very few restaurants
>> >serve Western food that way.

>>
>> At the Chinese restaurants I've patronized each person chooses their
>> own dishes from the menu and when served then the person whose dish it
>> is shares (if they choose to) by serving from their own dishes. *If
>> everyone is going to treat the meal like a free for all then may as
>> well have gone to a Chinese buffet. *I've eaten many times at real
>> Chinese restaurants with Chinese people. *I know that real Chinese
>> food is served differently but then they don't eat anywhere near the
>> same kinds of foods served at the American style Chinese eateries...
>> real Chinese dishes much better lend themselves to community style
>> dining and the Chinese customs are quite strict about how food is
>> distributed, typically one or two people are designated to do all the
>> serving, it's not a grabfest with everyone diving in... and the more
>> elaborate dishes are served at table by restaurant staff.
>>
>> >> I am not a big eater and if I
>> >> am presented with a full plate I can't eat.

>>
>> >You mean, if you get a full plate you can't just eat half,
>> >or a quarter, or whatever frraction you want? *Huh.

>>
>> Depending on type of food my mom either plated in the kitchen or
>> walked around the table serving, she knew exactly what she prepared
>> and how to distribute it... initial portion size was on the small side
>> so food didn't get wasted and there was always plenty more keeping
>> warm in the kitchen... at most catered affairs food is served the same
>> way, a professional white gloved server goes around the table to each
>> diner and distributes the food... what yoose refer to as family style
>> I call eating at the trough, disgustingly unsanitary and survival of
>> the fittest with the bigger beasts grabbing the choicest parts with no
>> consideration for others. *I don't appreciate everyone at the table
>> grabbing at my food... I've been served "family style" in other
>> people's homes and seen people (especially their disgusting kids)
>> snatching food from platters with their filthy fingers. *I can
>> sometimes accept family style when it's only those who live under that
>> roof... my mom would sometimes bring platters to the table but still
>> only she did the serving. *I can see family style (sharing from the
>> same plate) when it's a couple living together but it's definitely
>> unacceptible with guests/strangers. *Even if yoose gals are sleeping
>> with me, if I gotta wear a condom I certainly don't want yoose
>> touching my food.


>You should have been born into ROYALTY with your attitude.



Obviously your parents tried but were turned down for being too low
class, ROY.

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Nancy wrote:

> Heh. A friend of mine swore she couldn't tell direction because she was
> left-handed but the Catholic nuns made her write with her right hand.
> You'd better point which way to turn when she was driving, Turn Left had
> unpredictable results. Once she spent a weekend at my place down the
> shore and called me a couple of hours after she left ... she'd just gotten
> home as she got onto the highway going south for an hour .... she lived
> north.


California has a highway which runs along the western edge of the Sierra
Mountains (Hwy 49). Someone I know consistently confuses north and south on
that highway.

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On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 14:08:01 -0800, "Bob Terwilliger"
> wrote:

> Nancy wrote:
>
> > Heh. A friend of mine swore she couldn't tell direction because she was
> > left-handed but the Catholic nuns made her write with her right hand.
> > You'd better point which way to turn when she was driving, Turn Left had
> > unpredictable results. Once she spent a weekend at my place down the
> > shore and called me a couple of hours after she left ... she'd just gotten
> > home as she got onto the highway going south for an hour .... she lived
> > north.

>
> California has a highway which runs along the western edge of the Sierra
> Mountains (Hwy 49). Someone I know consistently confuses north and south on
> that highway.
>

Well, it *is* full of twists and turns. You can't just look at the
sun and know which direction you're headed.


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sf wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 14:08:01 -0800, "Bob Terwilliger"
> > wrote:
>


>> California has a highway which runs along the western edge of the Sierra
>> Mountains (Hwy 49). Someone I know consistently confuses north and south on
>> that highway.
>>

> Well, it *is* full of twists and turns. You can't just look at the
> sun and know which direction you're headed.
>
>



I have become so used to living along the Front Range in Colorado
where the mountains are always to the west, California confuses me.
I still want "west" to be toward the mountains.

More confusion because I spent my first 40-some years in various areas
of southern New England where there ARE no mountains but the ocean was
always "east". ;-)

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On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 08:31:09 -0500, "Nancy Young"
> arranged random neurons and said:

>Heh. A friend of mine swore she couldn't tell direction because
>she was left-handed but the Catholic nuns made her write with
>her right hand. You'd better point which way to turn when she
>was driving, Turn Left had unpredictable results. Once she spent a
>weekend at my place down the shore and called me a couple of
>hours after she left ... she'd just gotten home as she got onto the
>highway going south for an hour .... she lived north.


This is *eggsackly* what happened to me. Ursuline nuns about beat my
hands bloody when I was in primary school. To this day, I do most
things with my right hand, but throw a ball at me and I grab it with
my left. I think that's also why I have a hard time remembering which
way to turn a valve and literally mentally chant to myself, "Lefty
loosey, righty tighty."

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

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if the wine had been as old as the turkey,
and if the turkey had had a breast like the maid,
it would have been a swell dinner." Duncan Hines


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On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 14:08:01 -0800, "Bob Terwilliger"
> arranged random neurons and said:

>California has a highway which runs along the western edge of the Sierra
>Mountains (Hwy 49). Someone I know consistently confuses north and south on
>that highway.


That's what I miss about living in Denver: you *always* knew where
west was. Living this close to the beach in SoCal, you'd think I'd
always know where west is, but do you know how many south-facing
beaches there are? Nutz.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

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if the wine had been as old as the turkey,
and if the turkey had had a breast like the maid,
it would have been a swell dinner." Duncan Hines


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On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 22:24:04 -0800, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 08:31:09 -0500, "Nancy Young"
> > arranged random neurons and said:
>
>>Heh. A friend of mine swore she couldn't tell direction because she was
>>left-handed but the Catholic nuns made her write with her right hand.
>>You'd better point which way to turn when she was driving, Turn Left had
>>unpredictable results. Once she spent a weekend at my place down the
>>shore and called me a couple of hours after she left ... she'd just
>>gotten home as she got onto the highway going south for an hour .... she
>>lived north.

>
> This is *eggsackly* what happened to me. Ursuline nuns about beat my
> hands bloody when I was in primary school. To this day, I do most things
> with my right hand, but throw a ball at me and I grab it with my left. I
> think that's also why I have a hard time remembering which way to turn a
> valve and literally mentally chant to myself, "Lefty loosey, righty
> tighty."


FWIW, I was born right handed, no nuns were to be seen in my hallowed
halls of education to beat them to a pulp - and yet I still have
absolutely *no* sense of direction whatsoever. All I can say is thank gawd
for detailed road maps and (more recently) my GPS gizmo or I'd never be
able to find my way *anywhere* ;-)

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"ChattyCathy" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 22:24:04 -0800, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 08:31:09 -0500, "Nancy Young"
>> > arranged random neurons and said:
>>
>>>Heh. A friend of mine swore she couldn't tell direction because she was
>>>left-handed but the Catholic nuns made her write with her right hand.
>>>You'd better point which way to turn when she was driving, Turn Left had
>>>unpredictable results. Once she spent a weekend at my place down the
>>>shore and called me a couple of hours after she left ... she'd just
>>>gotten home as she got onto the highway going south for an hour .... she
>>>lived north.

>>
>> This is *eggsackly* what happened to me. Ursuline nuns about beat my
>> hands bloody when I was in primary school. To this day, I do most things
>> with my right hand, but throw a ball at me and I grab it with my left. I
>> think that's also why I have a hard time remembering which way to turn a
>> valve and literally mentally chant to myself, "Lefty loosey, righty
>> tighty."

>
> FWIW, I was born right handed, no nuns were to be seen in my hallowed
> halls of education to beat them to a pulp - and yet I still have
> absolutely *no* sense of direction whatsoever. All I can say is thank gawd
> for detailed road maps and (more recently) my GPS gizmo or I'd never be
> able to find my way *anywhere* ;-)


LOL me too! While I did have nuns in my hallowed halls of education, my
hands were never beated to a pulp either, I have absolutely NO sense of
direction. I don't have problems with right/left though.
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> "Giusi" wrote in message


>> Your family eats with its hands? Saves a ton of dishwashing I bet.

>
> ...also I am not sure how people sitting around a table, are breathing on
> it > in the same way as a
> with buffet, when *many more people* are *standing* over it.


That's why they have plexiglas screens over commercial buffets. Frankly, at
home I expect to get dosed with everybody's germs and viruses, although food
is not the worst occasion, but handshakes, etc.


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On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 09:49:07 -0800 (PST), Roy
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On Nov 11, 9:24*am, Brooklyn1 Gravesend1 wrote:
Cindy Hamilton wrote:
"Ophelia" wrote:
"Serene Vannoy" wrote:
Ophelia wrote:


I hate having my plate made up for me


Then I guess you never eat at restaurants.

I think that personal preference is certainly part of that decision-making
process. If anyone here hated it, I might adjust. Do you hate it in
restaurants, too?


Yes I do, which is why I prefer to use the ones which present the food in
dishes on the table and one can help oneself.


For me that would largely depend on who all I'm dining with... I don't
mind the least if my cats eat the bits I place at the edge of my plate
but I'm not comfortable with a bunch of strangers digging into the
food I'm eventually going to have to eat... I'd much prefer the cook
plating my dish.

I've found relatively few restaurants that serve that way.
Chinese restaurants, I suppose, but very few restaurants
serve Western food that way.


At the Chinese restaurants I've patronized each person chooses their
own dishes from the menu and when served then the person whose dish it
is shares (if they choose to) by serving from their own dishes. *If
everyone is going to treat the meal like a free for all then may as
well have gone to a Chinese buffet. *I've eaten many times at real
Chinese restaurants with Chinese people. *I know that real Chinese
food is served differently but then they don't eat anywhere near the
same kinds of foods served at the American style Chinese eateries...
real Chinese dishes much better lend themselves to community style
dining and the Chinese customs are quite strict about how food is
distributed, typically one or two people are designated to do all the
serving, it's not a grabfest with everyone diving in... and the more
elaborate dishes are served at table by restaurant staff.

I am not a big eater and if I
am presented with a full plate I can't eat.


You mean, if you get a full plate you can't just eat half,
or a quarter, or whatever frraction you want? *Huh.


Depending on type of food my mom either plated in the kitchen or
walked around the table serving, she knew exactly what she prepared
and how to distribute it... initial portion size was on the small side
so food didn't get wasted and there was always plenty more keeping
warm in the kitchen... at most catered affairs food is served the same
way, a professional white gloved server goes around the table to each
diner and distributes the food... what yoose refer to as family style
I call eating at the trough, disgustingly unsanitary and survival of
the fittest with the bigger beasts grabbing the choicest parts with no
consideration for others. *I don't appreciate everyone at the table
grabbing at my food... I've been served "family style" in other
people's homes and seen people (especially their disgusting kids)
snatching food from platters with their filthy fingers. *I can
sometimes accept family style when it's only those who live under that
roof... my mom would sometimes bring platters to the table but still
only she did the serving. *I can see family style (sharing from the
same plate) when it's a couple living together but it's definitely
unacceptible with guests/strangers. *Even if yoose gals are sleeping
with me, if I gotta wear a condom I certainly don't want yoose
touching my food.


You should have been born into ROYALTY with your attitude.



Obviously your parents tried but were turned down for being too low
class, ROY.

I am ROYALTY.. kiss my ass.
"No need to stop being a lady. Relax, you'll be back on your knees in no time."

-Melvin Udall

I'm anything but dainty in presentation; but I do think a clean presentation makes for a better meal. Still, no animals at the table. They clean up when it's over.

I'm cool if you let a cat dine with you. Just don't get mad if I prefer not to eat with your critter. This is a really nasty thought for many.


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ChattyCathy wrote:
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>FWIW, I was born right handed, no nuns were to be seen in my hallowed
>halls of education to beat them to a pulp - and yet I still have
>absolutely *no* sense of direction whatsoever. All I can say is thank gawd
>for detailed road maps and (more recently) my GPS gizmo or I'd never be
>able to find my way *anywhere* ;-)


Most females have a poor sense of direction. Males typically have a
good sense of direction, proving that most men are bird brains. LOL
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On 11/12/2010 12:25 AM, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 14:08:01 -0800, "Bob Terwilliger"
> > arranged random neurons and said:
>
>> California has a highway which runs along the western edge of the Sierra
>> Mountains (Hwy 49). Someone I know consistently confuses north and south on
>> that highway.

>
> That's what I miss about living in Denver: you *always* knew where
> west was. Living this close to the beach in SoCal, you'd think I'd
> always know where west is, but do you know how many south-facing
> beaches there are? Nutz.
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
>


Growing up on the East Coast I always knew where east was because that
was the direction of the Atlantic. Whenever I was on the West Coast I
was always getting turned around because I expected the ocean to be
east, not west.

My DH says I am "directionally challenged" He says: "turn right, no,
the *other* right" all the time. :-)

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> LOL me too! While I did have nuns in my hallowed halls of education, my
> hands were never beated to a pulp either, I have absolutely NO sense of
> direction. I don't have problems with right/left though.


A had a SIL who used to give driving directions from the passenger seat
as "make a wedding ring" or "make a plain hand" That always worked for me.

I remember my dad making a joke about farm boys in the army and the
drill sergeant putting hay in one of their boots and straw in the other
and calling the cadence "hay foot, straw foot" instead of "left - right"
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On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 11:33:38 +0200, ChattyCathy
> wrote:

> FWIW, I was born right handed, no nuns were to be seen in my hallowed
> halls of education to beat them to a pulp


My husband is a catholic educated Rightie who does know his left from
his right, but he is still directionally challenged. Give him a map
and he's good, but he can't seem to remember how to get back to
wherever it is we've already been if any significant amount of time
has elapsed. I've never figured that out. What's really odd is when
I'm completely confused or have just plain forgotten, suddenly his
sense of direction and how to navigate a labyrinth of one way streets
kicks in and he gets us where we're going.

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> (Belated) thanks go to Terry (Pr'fesser) for this survey.
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>


HUH?? I got a different survey. The one about lactose
intolerance....what happened....Sharon in Canada, who has a snowball's
chance of ever getting a tfh....lol


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