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Default So.. I guess no one who opposes the Patient Protection andAffordable Care Act can really find much if anything they can point to that's

On Nov 6, 5:51*pm, Bryan > wrote:
> On Nov 6, 1:37*pm, Dan Abel > wrote:
>
> > In article >,

>
> > *Omelet > wrote:
> > > Quote me chapter and verse why it's a good thing, and why the majority
> > > of MD's oppose it and are threatening to leave the country so we will
> > > end up with a MAJOR shortage of good doctors which will cost lives due
> > > to the sheer lack of caregivers?

>
> Here is an excerpt from Wikipedia:
> Effective September 23, 2010
> 1. Insurance companies will be prohibited from imposing lifetime
> dollar limits on essential benefits, like hospital stays in new
> policies issued.
>
> 2. Dependents (children) will be permitted to remain on their parents'
> insurance plan until their 26th birthday, and regulations implemented
> under the Act include dependents that no longer live with their
> parents, are not a dependent on a parent’s tax return, are no longer a
> student, or are married.
>
> 3. Insurers are prohibited from excluding pre-existing medical
> conditions (except in grandfathered individual health insurance plans)
> for children under the age of 19.
>
> 4. Insurers are prohibited from charging co-payments or deductibles
> for Level A or Level B preventive care and medical screenings on all
> new insurance plans.
>
> 5. Individuals affected by the Medicare Part D coverage gap will
> receive a $250 rebate, and 50% of the gap will be eliminated in 2011.
> The gap will be eliminated by 2020.
>
> 6. Insurers' abilities to enforce annual spending caps will be
> restricted, and completely prohibited by 2014.
>
> 7. Insurers are prohibited from dropping policyholders when they get
> sick.
>
> 8. Insurers are required to reveal details about administrative and
> executive expenditures.
>
> 9. Insurers are required to implement an appeals process for coverage
> determination and claims on all new plans.
>
> 10. Indoor tanning services are subjected to a 10% service tax.
>
> 11. Enhanced methods of fraud detection are implemented.
>
> 12. Medicare is expanded to small, rural hospitals and facilities.
>
> 13. Medicare patients with chronic illnesses must be monitored/
> evaluated on a 3 month basis for coverage of the medications for
> treatment of such illnesses.
>
> 14. Non-profit Blue Cross insurers are required to maintain a loss
> ratio (money spent on procedures over money incoming) of 85% or higher
> to take advantage of IRS tax benefits.
>
> 15. Companies which provide early retiree benefits for individuals
> aged 55–64 are eligible to participate in a temporary program which
> reduces premium costs.
>
> 16. A new website installed by the Secretary of Health and Human
> Services will provide consumer insurance information for individuals
> and small businesses in all states.
>
> 17. A temporary credit program is established to encourage private
> investment in new therapies for disease treatment and prevention.
>
> OK, I numbered them so you can identify any aspects that you find
> objectionable by number.
> Here's mo
>
> Effective by January 1, 2012
> 18. Employers must disclose the value of the benefits they provided
> beginning in 2012 for each employee's health insurance coverage on the
> employees' annual Form W-2's. This requirement was originally to be
> effective January 1, 2011 but was postponed by IRS Notice 2010-69 on
> October 23, 2010.
>
> 19. New tax reporting changes come into effect which aims to prevent
> tax evasion by corporations. The provision is expected to raise $17
> billion over 10 years. Under the existing law, businesses have to
> notify the IRS of certain payments to individuals for certain services
> or property over a reporting threshold of $600: from this date the law
> is changed so that payments to corporations must also be reported.
> There are a number of exceptions, for example: personal payments,
> payments for merchandise, telephone, freight, storage, payments of
> rent to real estate agents are exempt from reporting.[55] The
> amendments made by this section of the bill (SEC. 9006) shall apply to
> payments made by businesses after December 31, 2011.
>
> Effective by January 1, 2013
> 20. Self-employment and wages of individuals above $200,000 annually
> (or of families above $250,000 annually) will be subject to an
> additional tax of 0.5%
>
> WOW! *High income people will have to pay an additional one half of
> one percent so that less wealthy people can get medical care?
> Downright socialist!
>
> After that, other provisions go into effect, but can anyone find fault
> with any of the above? *That's not a rhetorical question. *Speak up
> now or everyone can assume that you don't have a problem with these
> first twenty, and we can move on.
>
>
>
> > > You can't get treatment if there is nobody to give it...

>
> > There are always lots of people who threaten to take their marbles and
> > leave. *That's not the same as a credible threat.

>
> But John Galt and the other demi-gods did it in Atlas Shrugged. *Oh,
> that was fiction, wasn't it?
>
> >*So, say a doctor
> > decides to move to another country to practice private medicine if the
> > US really does adopt a national health plan. *Which country would they
> > move to? *Name one major industrialized country (where doctors could
> > actually find lots of jobs) that doesn't already have a national health
> > plan. *Well, last I heard there's South Africa. *That's it. *We have a
> > woman in our church who used to be some kind of doctor in South Africa. *
> > She and her husband chose not to bring up their children (they have
> > four) in a country that practiced apartheid.

>
> They no longer have apartheid, but I doubt their doctors have a higher
> standard of living than ours would have after full implementation of
> the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010.
>
>
>
> > --
> > Dan Abel

>
> --Bryan


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