On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:00:13 -0600, Omelet >
wrote:
>
> In article >,
> sf > wrote:
>
> >
> > We're already deep into a conversation I know no details about.
> >
>
> Well, I just think that having both legs removed is kinda drastic.
>
> :-(

I told her that as well, but she's tired of the sores and pain. She's
already had a toe removed due to gangrene and has a leg that still
isn't properly healed after breaking it maybe two years ago. I don't
know anything about her insurance situation or medical options, but I
really don't see how she could have any. She hasn't worked in years
due to complications of diabetes and when she did she was a home
health care worker, the aide - not the nurse. I don't think she had
health insurance through work to begin with and she's way beyond any
COBRA she would have had if she did.

--

Never trust a dog to watch your food.

On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 10:39:56 -1000, dsi1 >
wrote:

> My only experience with
> pectin was using it for no-cook strawberry jam - that was pretty tasty.

Freezer strawberry jam? My grandmother used to make that and it was
deeelishous! I don't know why I don't make it. I just don't.

--

Never trust a dog to watch your food.

On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 13:25:35 -0800 (PST), Bryan
> wrote:

> > I refuse to take that shit from some anonymous internet jerk like you,
> > so please kindly **** off!
>
> I'm not particularly anonymous, and you're welcome to--HAHA--killfile
> me.

Gee Om. Don't you know it's all *your* fault? If you had picked a
fake but real sounding name like some others here did, he wouldn't
have had an objection. Instead, you insisted on throwing it in his
face that you use a nom-de-plume. Sheesh. Shape up!

--

Never trust a dog to watch your food.

On 11/16/2010 11:07 AM, Omelet wrote:
> In >,
> > wrote:
>
>>> Actually, there is a Pectin product that can be used sans sugar. Check
>>> your canning section. :-) Works for making sugar free jams and jellies.
>>>
>>> I've bought it. It works.
>>
>> Thanks for the info. Sounds like a winner to me. My only experience with
>> pectin was using it for no-cook strawberry jam - that was pretty tasty.
>> I have to stay away from those things now. I have a running joke with an
>> ex-coworker who always bugs me for some baklava because of a batch I
>> made for her over a decade ago. Her greeting to me is "Where's my
>> baklava?" My response is "It's in my car trunk!" Unfortunately, that
>> train has left the station. My heart's no long in it for making sweet
>> things anymore, not since mean Mr. Diabetes showed up.
>
> I love Baklava and sis' makes a mean one. The last batch she made for
> me is still untouched in the freezer.
>
>>
>> You are right about this amputation stuff. We'll be seeing more and more
>> folks with missing limbs and loss of feeling in their hands or have lost
>> their eyesight in the future. A lot of folks are unaware of diabetes but
>> many of them will soon get reality checks. As it goes, the checks really
>> are in the mail. :-)
>
> And Kidney failure.

It just keeps getting better and better, don't it? Sorry for leaving
that one out - kidney failure is the worst! :-)

>
> I totally understand and am just keeping my HA1C above water at this
> point. (5.4 to 5.5) I'll keep fighting the good fight... and support
> those who are trying to keep fighting. It's a really difficult way to
> live for many. I'm only at the Insulin resistance phase so am fighting
> not to end up all the way there.

Don't you mean 7.4 to 7.5? 5.5 sounds great!

>
> And I am grateful for having (mostly) lost my sweet tooth. It used to be
> pretty bad.
>
> I worry about my sister who disregards her genes. She needs to remember
> that she is me 10 years from now, and is ignoring the fact that she
> weighs nearly 300 lbs. now.<sigh>
>
> Best of luck to you!

We're gonna need lots of luck, I think. Take care.

On 11/16/2010 11:07 AM, Omelet wrote:
> In >,
> > wrote:
>
>>> Actually, there is a Pectin product that can be used sans sugar. Check
>>> your canning section. :-) Works for making sugar free jams and jellies.
>>>
>>> I've bought it. It works.
>>
>> Thanks for the info. Sounds like a winner to me. My only experience with
>> pectin was using it for no-cook strawberry jam - that was pretty tasty.
>> I have to stay away from those things now. I have a running joke with an
>> ex-coworker who always bugs me for some baklava because of a batch I
>> made for her over a decade ago. Her greeting to me is "Where's my
>> baklava?" My response is "It's in my car trunk!" Unfortunately, that
>> train has left the station. My heart's no long in it for making sweet
>> things anymore, not since mean Mr. Diabetes showed up.
>
> I love Baklava and sis' makes a mean one. The last batch she made for
> me is still untouched in the freezer.
>
>>
>> You are right about this amputation stuff. We'll be seeing more and more
>> folks with missing limbs and loss of feeling in their hands or have lost
>> their eyesight in the future. A lot of folks are unaware of diabetes but
>> many of them will soon get reality checks. As it goes, the checks really
>> are in the mail. :-)
>
> And Kidney failure.

It just keeps getting better and better, don't it? Sorry for leaving
that one out - kidney failure is the worst! :-)

>
> I totally understand and am just keeping my HA1C above water at this
> point. (5.4 to 5.5) I'll keep fighting the good fight... and support
> those who are trying to keep fighting. It's a really difficult way to
> live for many. I'm only at the Insulin resistance phase so am fighting
> not to end up all the way there.

Don't you mean 7.4 to 7.5? 5.5 sounds great!

>
> And I am grateful for having (mostly) lost my sweet tooth. It used to be
> pretty bad.
>
> I worry about my sister who disregards her genes. She needs to remember
> that she is me 10 years from now, and is ignoring the fact that she
> weighs nearly 300 lbs. now.<sigh>
>
> Best of luck to you!

We're gonna need lots of luck, I think. Take care.

On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:37:04 -0600, Omelet >
wrote:

> In article >,
> sf > wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:00:13 -0600, Omelet >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > In article >,
> > > sf > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > We're already deep into a conversation I know no details about.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Well, I just think that having both legs removed is kinda drastic.
> > >
> > > :-(
> >
> > I told her that as well, but she's tired of the sores and pain. She's
> > already had a toe removed due to gangrene and has a leg that still
> > isn't properly healed after breaking it maybe two years ago. I don't
> > know anything about her insurance situation or medical options, but I
> > really don't see how she could have any. She hasn't worked in years
> > due to complications of diabetes and when she did she was a home
> > health care worker, the aide - not the nurse. I don't think she had
> > health insurance through work to begin with and she's way beyond any
> > COBRA she would have had if she did.
>
> Geezus. Nobody has offered her Hyperbaric therapy?
>
I don't know anything more about her situation - what has or has not
been offered by the doctor(s) and what I told you was the extent of my
conversation with her on the subject. She's a big girl and can make
her own decisions. She has a friend who is a registered nurse, so I'm
sure that person has counseled her somewhat medically. I know nothing
about the subject of diabetes and prefer to remain ignorant until it
affects me personally and if it never does... ignorance is bliss.

--

Never trust a dog to watch your food.

On 11/16/2010 11:19 AM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 10:39:56 -1000, >
> wrote:
>
>> My only experience with
>> pectin was using it for no-cook strawberry jam - that was pretty tasty.
>
> Freezer strawberry jam? My grandmother used to make that and it was
> deeelishous! I don't know why I don't make it. I just don't.
>

It's so easy to make that they shouldn't even call it jam! We used to
live in San Bruno CA and the apartment we rented had a great 50s retro
kitchen and we'd sit at the small table off the kitchen in the warming
sunlight eating biscuits and jam. Back in those days, I was enamored
with 40s and 50s style.

I remember one lazy morning sitting and eating that simple breakfast
with my sister-in-law. The topic of conversation, among other things,
was of her co-worker dying of an unknown illness. My guess is that
conversation was common in the final days of the 70's in the SF bay
area. Who would have guessed that the next decade would be dominated by
this mystery disease?

These days we don't have a table to eat at or sit and talk. My guess is
that someday we'll have a table but I doubt it'll be as warm and
memorable as that old small table that I'll always remember as being
bathed in sunlight. Like sands in an hourglass, these are the days of
our lives. :-)

On 11/16/2010 11:57 AM, Omelet wrote:
> In >,
> > wrote:
>
>>>> You are right about this amputation stuff. We'll be seeing more and more
>>>> folks with missing limbs and loss of feeling in their hands or have lost
>>>> their eyesight in the future. A lot of folks are unaware of diabetes but
>>>> many of them will soon get reality checks. As it goes, the checks really
>>>> are in the mail. :-)
>>>
>>> And Kidney failure.
>>
>> It just keeps getting better and better, don't it? Sorry for leaving
>> that one out - kidney failure is the worst! :-)
>
> Indeed.
>
>>
>>>
>>> I totally understand and am just keeping my HA1C above water at this
>>> point. (5.4 to 5.5) I'll keep fighting the good fight... and support
>>> those who are trying to keep fighting. It's a really difficult way to
>>> live for many. I'm only at the Insulin resistance phase so am fighting
>>> not to end up all the way there.
>>
>> Don't you mean 7.4 to 7.5? 5.5 sounds great!
>
> It is, and that is where I'm trying to keep it!
> The one I ran 3 weeks ago was 5.4.
>
> Now if I could just fix my freakin' thyroid.<sigh> It was off again
> and Doc' changed my meds for it. TSH was 8.7.
>
>>
>>>
>>> And I am grateful for having (mostly) lost my sweet tooth. It used to be
>>> pretty bad.
>>>
>>> I worry about my sister who disregards her genes. She needs to remember
>>> that she is me 10 years from now, and is ignoring the fact that she
>>> weighs nearly 300 lbs. now.<sigh>
>>>
>>> Best of luck to you!
>>
>> We're gonna need lots of luck, I think. Take care.
>
> We all are... Cheers!
>
> My diet was for shit when I was in my 20's. Triglycerides due to a high
> sugar intake were over 600. Last one was higher than I like it at 109.
> I've had them as low as 55 when I was really behaving.
>
> In college, my average "lunch" was a 6 pack of Hostess Donettes and a
> Cherry Coke out of the Vending machines. I really did not know any
> better!

Back then we were pretty much invincible and I did eat some pretty nasty
crap. I don't regret it for a second but those days are long gone! :-)

>
> Now I do.

On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 12:30:09 -1000, dsi1 >
wrote:

> These days we don't have a table to eat at or sit and talk. My guess is
> that someday we'll have a table but I doubt it'll be as warm and
> memorable as that old small table that I'll always remember as being
> bathed in sunlight. Like sands in an hourglass, these are the days of
> our lives. :-)

I know what you mean. Some friendships are cherished all your life.

Speaking of tables... We lived in a one bedroom apartment in Palo Alto
when we were first married. It had a deep balcony that went the width
of the apartment. When the weather was warm, our table was outside
and we ate every meal out there. When it was cold, I moved the table
inside; but it was against the sliding doors so I could pretend I was
outside. They certainly were good times! I miss that indoor/outdoor
living. No deck here and we're built into a hill so our living space
is on the second story although from the street it looks like it's at
ground level.

--

Never trust a dog to watch your food.

On 11/16/2010 12:57 PM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 12:30:09 -1000, >
> wrote:
>
>> These days we don't have a table to eat at or sit and talk. My guess is
>> that someday we'll have a table but I doubt it'll be as warm and
>> memorable as that old small table that I'll always remember as being
>> bathed in sunlight. Like sands in an hourglass, these are the days of
>> our lives. :-)
>
> I know what you mean. Some friendships are cherished all your life.
>
> Speaking of tables... We lived in a one bedroom apartment in Palo Alto
> when we were first married. It had a deep balcony that went the width
> of the apartment. When the weather was warm, our table was outside
> and we ate every meal out there. When it was cold, I moved the table
> inside; but it was against the sliding doors so I could pretend I was
> outside. They certainly were good times! I miss that indoor/outdoor
> living. No deck here and we're built into a hill so our living space
> is on the second story although from the street it looks like it's at
> ground level.
>

Beats the heck out of me if these spaces exist because of the stage of
life we're in or if it's some happy peculiarity of architecture -
perhaps it's both. No matter, if I ever design a kitchen, my priory is
going to be to make an inviting space like that old table area. Oddly
enough, the kids will probably be gone by then so I can make it about
the same size. :-)

On Nov 16, 3:49*pm, Omelet > wrote:
> In article
> >,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Bryan > wrote:
> > Poor baby. *Still dealing with issues from your piece of crap
> > father.
> > Do you resent having to take care of his pathetic ass and make him
> > crappy food?
> > He's stealing the last few years of your life before you become an
> > invalid yourself.
>
> > > I refuse to take that shit from some anonymous internet jerk like you,
> > > so please kindly **** off!
>
> > I'm not particularly anonymous, and you're welcome to--HAHA--killfile
> > me.
>
> > > --
> > > Peace! Om
>
> > --Bryan
>
> You just went over the top Bryan. *Bye.
>
> <plonk>

It was intentional. I knew when I typed, "Poor baby. *Still dealing
with issues from your piece of crap father.
Do you resent having to take care of his pathetic ass and make him
crappy food?
He's stealing the last few years of your life before you become an
invalid yourself." that you would killfile me.
But it's TRUE
>
> And I know others will congratulate me and tell me "about damned time".
>
I don't doubt that. And there are plenty of folks here who like you,
and feel sorry for you, but even those who are way to nice to admit it
think you're pathetic. So you won't see my posts. Not the really
funny ones, but not the really insulting ones either, and not this
one. Maybe a good trade-off for you. I'll continue to read your
posts. I read fast, and I can take satisfaction in your sad life that
includes cooking with Coffee Mate and being fingered by that
Australian dude...no wait, he's not really going to navigate the rolls
and folds that you wash between in a hopeless attempt to remove the
sweaty filth that you loll in, only to end up with the finger from
Hell.
Of course people will empathize. I'm cruel, and you're pathetic. So
you take whatever affection you can get from your familiar, because no
man will ever again lust for you, with the possible exception of your
father while you're giving him a sponge bath. I'm sure that your
kitty loves you, and every time it shies away, you can wonder if it's
doing so because it smells death in its old witch.

> --
> Peace! Om
>
--Bryan

On 11/16/2010 3:17 PM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:00:13 -0600, >
> wrote:
>>
>> In >,
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> We're already deep into a conversation I know no details about.
>>>
>>
>> Well, I just think that having both legs removed is kinda drastic.
>>
>> :-(
>
> I told her that as well, but she's tired of the sores and pain. She's
> already had a toe removed due to gangrene and has a leg that still
> isn't properly healed after breaking it maybe two years ago. I don't
> know anything about her insurance situation or medical options, but I
> really don't see how she could have any. She hasn't worked in years
> due to complications of diabetes and when she did she was a home
> health care worker, the aide - not the nurse. I don't think she had
> health insurance through work to begin with and she's way beyond any
> COBRA she would have had if she did.
>
Have you discussed better blood glucose control with her? The kind of
things that are happening to her are not the effects of having diabetes,
but the effects of failing to control it. JMTCW

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

"sf" > wrote in message ...

| I know nothing
| about the subject of diabetes and prefer to remain ignorant until it
| affects me personally and if it never does... ignorance is bliss.

Ignorance may be blissful for you, but if you have any knowledge and
refuse to share it you may well be causing someone intense problems
by withholding your knowledge. Is this the way you would want the
world to work: those who know refusing to share with those who
need the information? Those who might help refusing to help?
You might rethink this situation.

pavane

On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 23:26:57 -0500, "pavane"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message ...
>
> | I know nothing
> | about the subject of diabetes and prefer to remain ignorant until it
> | affects me personally and if it never does... ignorance is bliss.
>
> Ignorance may be blissful for you, but if you have any knowledge and
> refuse to share it you may well be causing someone intense problems
> by withholding your knowledge. Is this the way you would want the
> world to work: those who know refusing to share with those who
> need the information? Those who might help refusing to help?
> You might rethink this situation.
>
I know *nothing*. Why did you say I was withholding information?

--

Never trust a dog to watch your food.

On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 21:07:32 -0600, Janet Wilder
> wrote:

> On 11/16/2010 3:17 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:00:13 -0600, >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> In >,
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> We're already deep into a conversation I know no details about.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Well, I just think that having both legs removed is kinda drastic.
> >>
> >> :-(
> >
> > I told her that as well, but she's tired of the sores and pain. She's
> > already had a toe removed due to gangrene and has a leg that still
> > isn't properly healed after breaking it maybe two years ago. I don't
> > know anything about her insurance situation or medical options, but I
> > really don't see how she could have any. She hasn't worked in years
> > due to complications of diabetes and when she did she was a home
> > health care worker, the aide - not the nurse. I don't think she had
> > health insurance through work to begin with and she's way beyond any
> > COBRA she would have had if she did.
> >
> Have you discussed better blood glucose control with her?

Why should I? Whatever she has to say to me is more than I know from
the gitgo. Maybe I can give you her phone number. She doesn't have a
computer.

> The kind of
> things that are happening to her are not the effects of having diabetes,
> but the effects of failing to control it. JMTCW

I have no idea. She has been a diabetic for many years, she hasn't
ever asked me for a medical consultation, and I am not in a position
to give her unsolicited, informed advice concerning her situation.


--

Never trust a dog to watch your food.

On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 16:45:39 -0800 (PST), Bryan
> wrote:

> Of course people will empathize. I'm cruel, and you're pathetic. So
> you take whatever affection you can get from your familiar, because no
> man will ever again lust for you, with the possible exception of your
> father while you're giving him a sponge bath. I'm sure that your
> kitty loves you, and every time it shies away, you can wonder if it's
> doing so because it smells death in its old witch.
>

Don't go there Bryan. That's uncalled for. You'll be in that
position before you know it and your karma will come back to bite you
in the ass.

Are your parents still alive? Do you love them? Her father is still
mobile and able to care for himself (with help), but he's going
downhill. There is more than one poster here who is an eldercare
giver! Are you also denigrating them or are you directing all your
bile to her?



--

Never trust a dog to watch your food.

On Nov 17, 12:52*am, sf > wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 16:45:39 -0800 (PST), Bryan
>
> > wrote:
> > Of course people will empathize. *I'm cruel, and you're pathetic. *So
> > you take whatever affection you can get from your familiar, because no
> > man will ever again lust for you, with the possible exception of your
> > father while you're giving him a sponge bath. *I'm sure that your
> > kitty loves you, and every time it shies away, you can wonder if it's
> > doing so because it smells death in its old witch.
>
> Don't go there Bryan. *That's uncalled for. *You'll be in that
> position before you know it and your karma will come back to bite you
> in the ass. *

Karma? Just as likely I'll get egged by the Easter Bunny.
>
> Are your parents still alive? *Do you love them?

Neither. My mother died years ago. She was sweet. My father was an
asshole. I've never bothered to **** on his grave, but if/when I do,
I'll put photos up on my Flickr page.

>*Her father is still mobile and able to care for himself (with help), but he's going
> downhill. *There is more than one poster here who is an eldercare
> giver! *Are you also denigrating them or are you directing all your
> bile to her? *
>
Oh, it's all toward her, and I'm sure you disagree, but I think she
deserves it.

--Bryan

On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:09:51 -0500, Goomba wrote:

> sf wrote:
>> On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 12:10:13 -0600, Omelet >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In article >,
>>> sf > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 14:37:52 -0600, Omelet >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article >,
>>>>> sf > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 03:53:36 -0600, Omelet >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With pleasure. He's obviously never seen somebody's leg on a
>>>>>>> dissection
>>>>>>> table like I have. Usually due to Diabetes...
>>>>>> I know someone who is seriously considering removing both of her legs
>>>>>> due to the complications of diabetes.
>>>>> Poor girl. :-( That truly sux.
>>>>> She may want to consider seeing a pain specialist first.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know someone with Diabetic neuropathy that is experiencing some real
>>>>> success with Accupuncture.
>>>> I'm pretty sure there's a matter of insurance too. I don't know how
>>>> much, if any, insurance she has.
>>> Jen' does not have any... She is paying for Accupuncture out of pocket.
>>>
>>> Hard for me to believe that insurance would pay for a double amputation
>>> and lifelong followup care, but would not pay for nerve block injections?
>>
>> We're already deep into a conversation I know no details about.
>>
> That's ok.. Om doesn't appear to know much about the psychophysiology of
> diabetes either.

amputation as a method for pain relief just sounds goofy. the 'phantom
pain' phenomenon is well-known.

your pal,
blake

your pal,
blake

On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:37:04 -0600, Omelet wrote:

> In article >,
> sf > wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:00:13 -0600, Omelet >
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> In article >,
>>> sf > wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> > We're already deep into a conversation I know no details about.
>>> >
>>>
>>> Well, I just think that having both legs removed is kinda drastic.
>>>
>>> :-(
>>
>> I told her that as well, but she's tired of the sores and pain. She's
>> already had a toe removed due to gangrene and has a leg that still
>> isn't properly healed after breaking it maybe two years ago. I don't
>> know anything about her insurance situation or medical options, but I
>> really don't see how she could have any. She hasn't worked in years
>> due to complications of diabetes and when she did she was a home
>> health care worker, the aide - not the nurse. I don't think she had
>> health insurance through work to begin with and she's way beyond any
>> COBRA she would have had if she did.
>
> Geezus. Nobody has offered her Hyperbaric therapy?
>
> <http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=...r+uses&aq=9&aq
> i=g10&aql=&oq=hyperbaric&gs_rfai=Cyqc47PfiTMebAoHI zQTyhvziDgAAAKoEBU_QH6D
> w&fp=b2cf77fec6d6c991>
>
> Or: <http://tinyurl.com/3xvkt28>
>
> Honestly, I'm not trying to be a doc' or anything, I just have had
> feelers out for alternative therapies for things I may run into in my
> own future, and am trying to help. ;-(

your appetite for quackery seems unquenchable.

blake

sf wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 22:17:19 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>> LOL! I looked and looked for some tea blend that sounded
>> plausible. Heard people favored, um, how to spell it...
>> ?Pantainorasingh? brand, but that is, IIRC, just tea and coloring.
>> That doesn't sound right to me. Por Kwan brand sounds much more
>> plausible to me, since it actually contains other ingredients. Of
>> course, I haven't found that locally.
>
> We have a shop across town where I bought what tasted like the real
> thing a long time ago and I will assume they still stock it. It's a
> Mediterranean store, so I was surprised they had it. If you're
> interested, I can give them a call to see if they still carry it or I
> can give you their phone number and you talk to them.
>

Thanks. I can get this online, just haven't done so. I could
swear that back when I was driving myself crazy looking for
Pantainorasingh, having read IT was the best, I was seeing and
passing up the Por Kwan.

--
Jean B.

Bob Terwilliger wrote:
> Jean B. wrote about Thai iced tea:
>
>> LOL! I looked and looked for some tea blend that sounded plausible.
>> Heard people favored, um, how to spell it... ?Pantainorasingh? brand,
>> but that is, IIRC, just tea and coloring. That doesn't sound right
>> to me. Por Kwan brand sounds much more plausible to me, since it
>> actually contains other ingredients. Of course, I haven't found that
>> locally.
>
> I have a box of Thai Kitchen brand Thai iced tea blend. It came from
> Cost Plus World Market. I should note that brewing Thai iced tea is not
> at all like brewing normal tea. It's got some spices (e.g. vanilla pod)
> which require boiling for half an hour, rather than just steeping for a
> few minutes. Naturally, this also leaches bitter tannins out of the tea
> leaves, which may explain why it's invariably heavily sweetened before
> serving. (Of course, the dissolved sugar also increases the density of
> the tea, which allows the half-and-half to float on top so prettily.)
>
> Bob

Aha! Thanks for this. I can get some Thai Kitchen products in
local stores and will have to see whether they carry the tea too.
Thanks for those tips too. It seems like artificial sweeteners
would not have the desired effect, and I have wondered about that.
Sugar it is--while I can.

--
Jean B.

blake murphy wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:09:51 -0500, Goomba wrote:

>> That's ok.. Om doesn't appear to know much about the psychophysiology of
>> diabetes either.
>
> amputation as a method for pain relief just sounds goofy. the 'phantom
> pain' phenomenon is well-known.
>
> your pal,
> blake
>
> your pal,
> blake

Eeeeck.. I just re-read what I posted and somehow my spell checker
substituted "psycho" for "patho"... I wrote pathophysiology!

To reiterate- Based on what Om writes about disease, she has a very
limited understanding of the disease process or treatments.

In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:


> amputation as a method for pain relief just sounds goofy. the 'phantom
> pain' phenomenon is well-known.

It does sound goofy, doesn't it? My uncle had it done, though. It
wasn't diabetes, but it was similar to what was being discussed, a nerve
problem. The doctors were completely unable to fix it, and finally said
that they would have to amputate his foot! And they did! And that
fixed it.

It should be noted here, though, that although neuropathy is a
complication of diabetes, normally when people talk about amputation due
to complications of diabetes, it is due to infection. The blood gets
too thick to go through the capillaries well. This causes lots of
problems. The extremities often get hit. A diabetic will get a little
"owie", and it just never heals due to poor blood circulation. The toes
are often first, but sometimes if amputation is not done soon enough,
the infection spreads to the foot and then the legs. After that,
amputation doesn't work any more, since next hit are the vital organs.
You can't amputate those! Organs with very small capillaries can also
get damaged. Examples are the retina in the eye and the kidneys.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

Jean B. wrote:
> Bob Terwilliger wrote:
>> Jean B. wrote about Thai iced tea:
>>
>>> LOL! I looked and looked for some tea blend that sounded
>>> plausible.
>>> Heard people favored, um, how to spell it... ?Pantainorasingh?
>>> brand, but that is, IIRC, just tea and coloring. That doesn't
>>> sound right to me. Por Kwan brand sounds much more plausible to
>>> me,
>>> since it actually contains other ingredients. Of course, I
>>> haven't
>>> found that locally.
>>
>> I have a box of Thai Kitchen brand Thai iced tea blend. It came
>> from
>> Cost Plus World Market. I should note that brewing Thai iced tea is
>> not at all like brewing normal tea. It's got some spices (e.g.
>> vanilla pod) which require boiling for half an hour, rather than
>> just steeping for a few minutes. Naturally, this also leaches
>> bitter
>> tannins out of the tea leaves, which may explain why it's
>> invariably
>> heavily sweetened before serving. (Of course, the dissolved sugar
>> also increases the density of the tea, which allows the
>> half-and-half to float on top so prettily.) Bob
>
> Aha! Thanks for this. I can get some Thai Kitchen products in
> local stores and will have to see whether they carry the tea too.
> Thanks for those tips too. It seems like artificial sweeteners
> would not have the desired effect, and I have wondered about that.
> Sugar it is--while I can.

Try a site called currysimple.com . They sell a Thai tea concentrate
which is delicious.

Dora

On Nov 17, 12:42*pm, Omelet > wrote:
>
> That toxic moron is not only spiritually ugly

Ooooh, spirits. Scary. I guess since no one here could compete with
you for physically ugly, I'll have to settle for "spiritually ugly."

> --
> Peace! Om

--Bryan

Dora wrote:
> Jean B. wrote:
>> Bob Terwilliger wrote:
>>> Jean B. wrote about Thai iced tea:
>>>
>>>> LOL! I looked and looked for some tea blend that sounded plausible.
>>>> Heard people favored, um, how to spell it... ?Pantainorasingh?
>>>> brand, but that is, IIRC, just tea and coloring. That doesn't
>>>> sound right to me. Por Kwan brand sounds much more plausible to me,
>>>> since it actually contains other ingredients. Of course, I haven't
>>>> found that locally.
>>>
>>> I have a box of Thai Kitchen brand Thai iced tea blend. It came from
>>> Cost Plus World Market. I should note that brewing Thai iced tea is
>>> not at all like brewing normal tea. It's got some spices (e.g.
>>> vanilla pod) which require boiling for half an hour, rather than
>>> just steeping for a few minutes. Naturally, this also leaches bitter
>>> tannins out of the tea leaves, which may explain why it's invariably
>>> heavily sweetened before serving. (Of course, the dissolved sugar
>>> also increases the density of the tea, which allows the
>>> half-and-half to float on top so prettily.) Bob
>>
>> Aha! Thanks for this. I can get some Thai Kitchen products in
>> local stores and will have to see whether they carry the tea too.
>> Thanks for those tips too. It seems like artificial sweeteners
>> would not have the desired effect, and I have wondered about that.
>> Sugar it is--while I can.
>
> Try a site called currysimple.com . They sell a Thai tea concentrate
> which is delicious.
>
> Dora

Thanks, Dora!

--
Jean B.

Hey Bryan..why don't you go back to abusing your family. How shitty and
shallow is it to not go on vacation with them because of the food there?
Do you smack your family around when they don't to your line..do you
beat the shit out of your wife when she doesn't cook the right foods? I
hope to god in your janitorial job you have NO contact with children. A
man who beats on his child has no qualms about beating on someone elses.
OH! I know you have a happy marriage. Of course its happy you beat the
shit out of her and condescend to her and she takes it all. That makes
it a happy marriage on your part!

And someone who likes Del taco has no rights to talk about other peoples
choices in food. Hopefully something happens to you soon so your family
can move on with a decent man who doesnt beat them..then again who
knows? Maybe your wife has something on the side that makes her happy?

On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 23:21:39 -0800, "Bob Terwilliger"
> wrote:

>Jean B. wrote about Thai iced tea:
>
>> LOL! I looked and looked for some tea blend that sounded plausible.
>> Heard people favored, um, how to spell it... ?Pantainorasingh? brand, but
<snip>
>I have a box of Thai Kitchen brand Thai iced tea blend. It came from Cost
>Plus World Market. I should note that brewing Thai iced tea is not at all
>like brewing normal tea. It's got some spices (e.g. vanilla pod) which
>require boiling for half an hour, rather than just steeping for a few
>minutes. Naturally, this also leaches bitter tannins out of the tea leaves,
>which may explain why it's invariably heavily sweetened before serving. (Of
>course, the dissolved sugar also increases the density of the tea, which
>allows the half-and-half to float on top so prettily.)
>
>Bob

I've had success going in to the local Thai markets and asking for
"Thai Cha". (Of course, here in Los Angeles, we -=have=- local Thai
markets.)

I know of one Japanese restaurant that simply used Lipton's. Brew it
double-strength, mix 50/50 with simple syrup, and add the
half-and-half at the time of serving.

.............Karl

On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 12:38:58 -0500, Goomba wrote:

> blake murphy wrote:
>> On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:09:51 -0500, Goomba wrote:
>
>>> That's ok.. Om doesn't appear to know much about the psychophysiology of
>>> diabetes either.
>>
>> amputation as a method for pain relief just sounds goofy. the 'phantom
>> pain' phenomenon is well-known.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
> Eeeeck.. I just re-read what I posted and somehow my spell checker
> substituted "psycho" for "patho"... I wrote pathophysiology!

actually, 'psychophysiology' seemed to me to fit.

> To reiterate- Based on what Om writes about disease, she has a very
> limited understanding of the disease process or treatments.

'tis true.

your pal,
blake