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We will begin with BOX and the plural is BOXES.
But the plural OX should be OXEN and not OXES. Visit for more http://sites.google.com/site/easyeng...niest-language |
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On 11/14/2010 10:15 PM, learnspeakingenglish wrote:
> We will begin with BOX and the plural is BOXES. > > But the plural OX should be OXEN and not OXES. > > Visit for more > > http://sites.google.com/site/easyeng...niest-language How about French where Potatoes are apples of or from the earth. English evolved from Germanic languages. It is fascinating to read about some of the evolution. It is near impossible with anyone with a Doctorate in languages to read old English. How about Russian etc with the extra characters in the alphabet. We studied that in elementary school but don't remember a thing about it. We can't even pronounce the sounds. how about Korean etc. Zeesh. I have relatives that to listen to them speak of sing some of the dialects is nerve wrecking because I can't understand or get into the rhythm of it. Swedish, or how about the dialects of the Pygmies? Can you begin to understand how to speak with clicks and other sounds we might not be able to make now. |
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On Nov 14, 8:53*pm, Lil Abner > wrote:
> On 11/14/2010 10:15 PM, learnspeakingenglish wrote:> We will begin with BOX and the plural is BOXES. > > > But the plural OX should be OXEN and not OXES. > > > Visit for more > > >http://sites.google.com/site/easyeng...-the-funniest-... > > How about French where Potatoes are apples of or from the earth. > English evolved from Germanic languages. > It is fascinating to read about some of the evolution. It is near > impossible with anyone with a Doctorate in languages to read old English. > How about Russian etc with the extra characters in the alphabet. > We studied that in elementary school but don't remember a thing about it. > We can't even pronounce the sounds. > how about Korean etc. Zeesh. I have relatives that to listen to them > speak of sing some of the dialects is nerve wrecking because I can't > understand or get into the rhythm of it. > Swedish, or how about the dialects of the Pygmies? Can you begin to > understand how to speak with clicks and other sounds we might not be > able to make now. == My one grandmother came from Norway and when she wrote letters to my mom she wrote like she spoke. As kids, we thought it was quite neat. I "tink" so. == |
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On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 19:15:04 -0800 (PST), learnspeakingenglish
wrote: > We will begin with BOX and the plural is BOXES. > > But the plural OX should be OXEN and not OXES. And I had shrimpen for dinner. Or is that shrimpes. ObFood: I just made sugar cookies with Heath toffee chips on top. -sw |
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On Nov 14, 10:15*pm, learnspeakingenglish
> wrote: > We will begin with BOX and the plural is BOXES. > > But the plural OX should be OXEN and not OXES. > > Visit for more > > http://sites.google.com/site/easyeng...-the-funniest-... What I'd like to know is how come bough, cough, dough, rough, and tough don't all rhyme? What about bomb, comb, tomb, and womb? |
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![]() > wrote in message ... > On Nov 14, 10:15 pm, learnspeakingenglish > > wrote: >> We will begin with BOX and the plural is BOXES. >> >> But the plural OX should be OXEN and not OXES. >> >> Visit for more >> >> http://sites.google.com/site/easyeng...-the-funniest-... > > What I'd like to know is how come bough, cough, dough, rough, and > tough don't all rhyme? What about bomb, comb, tomb, and womb? Just to catch you out.... <eg> -- -- https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |
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On Nov 14, 10:53*pm, Lil Abner > wrote:
> On 11/14/2010 10:15 PM, learnspeakingenglish wrote:> We will begin with BOX and the plural is BOXES. > > > But the plural OX should be OXEN and not OXES. > > > Visit for more > > >http://sites.google.com/site/easyeng...-the-funniest-... > > How about French where Potatoes are apples of or from the earth. > English evolved from Germanic languages. > It is fascinating to read about some of the evolution. It is near > impossible with anyone with a Doctorate in languages to read old English. > How about Russian etc with the extra characters in the alphabet. > We studied that in elementary school but don't remember a thing about it. > We can't even pronounce the sounds. > how about Korean etc. Zeesh. I have relatives that to listen to them > speak of sing some of the dialects is nerve wrecking because I can't > understand or get into the rhythm of it. > Swedish, or how about the dialects of the Pygmies? Can you begin to > understand how to speak with clicks and other sounds we might not be > able to make now. The German word for potato is Kartoffel. However in my German dialect potatoes are referred to as: Erd Aepffel. Erd = Earth, Aepfell(the way we pronounce it) = Appels. |
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By comparison, Italian has 250-350,000, Mandarin Chinese, 500,000. We got a lot of syntax to figure out. |
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"A Moose In Love" schrieb :
> On Nov 14, 10:53 pm, Lil Abner > wrote: >> On 11/14/2010 10:15 PM, learnspeakingenglish wrote:> We will begin with >> BOX and the plural is BOXES. > >> > But the plural OX should be OXEN and not OXES. > >> > Visit for more > > >> How about French where Potatoes are apples of or from the earth. >> English evolved from Germanic languages. > The German word for potato is Kartoffel. However in my German dialect > potatoes are referred to as: Erd Aepffel. Erd = Earth, Aepfell(the > way we pronounce it) = Appels. Erdapfel. Erdaepfel is the plural. Tomato = Paradeiser (apple from paradise). Servus, Michael Kuettner |
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On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 19:15:04 -0800 (PST), learnspeakingenglish
> wrote: >We will begin with BOX and the plural is BOXES. > >But the plural OX should be OXEN and not OXES. And the plural of YOU is not Y'ALL, it's YOOSE. |
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On Nov 15, 1:12*am, " > wrote:
> On Nov 14, 10:15*pm, learnspeakingenglish > > > wrote: > > We will begin with BOX and the plural is BOXES. > > > But the plural OX should be OXEN and not OXES. > > > Visit for more > > >http://sites.google.com/site/easyeng...-the-funniest-... > > What I'd like to know is how come bough, cough, dough, rough, and > tough don't all rhyme? *What about bomb, comb, tomb, and womb? And don't forget trough. |
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![]() "Kalmia" > wrote in message ... > On Nov 15, 1:12 am, " > wrote: >> On Nov 14, 10:15 pm, learnspeakingenglish >> >> > wrote: >> > We will begin with BOX and the plural is BOXES. >> >> > But the plural OX should be OXEN and not OXES. >> >> > Visit for more >> >> >http://sites.google.com/site/easyeng...-the-funniest-... >> >> What I'd like to know is how come bough, cough, dough, rough, and >> tough don't all rhyme? What about bomb, comb, tomb, and womb? > > And don't forget trough. Indeed... <g> -- -- https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |
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Ophelia wrote:
> "Kalmia" > wrote in message > ... >> On Nov 15, 1:12 am, " > wrote: >>> On Nov 14, 10:15 pm, learnspeakingenglish >>> >>> > wrote: >>>> We will begin with BOX and the plural is BOXES. >>> >>>> But the plural OX should be OXEN and not OXES. >>> >>>> Visit for more >>> >>>> http://sites.google.com/site/easyeng...-the-funniest-... >>> >>> What I'd like to know is how come bough, cough, dough, rough, and >>> tough don't all rhyme? What about bomb, comb, tomb, and womb? >> >> And don't forget trough. > > Indeed... <g> Or overlook through. |
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"Gorio" schrieb :
> > 'Ophelia[_7_ Wrote: >> On Nov 14, 10:15 pm, learnspeakingenglish >> wrote:- >> We will begin with BOX and the plural is BOXES. >> >> But the plural OX should be OXEN and not OXES. >> >> Visit for more >> >> http://sites.google.com/site/easyeng...-funniest-...- >> >> What I'd like to know is how come bough, cough, dough, rough, and >> tough don't all rhyme? What about bomb, comb, tomb, and womb?- >> >> Just to catch you out.... eg >> -- >> -- >> https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ > > English just added it's one millionth word. I don't know what it is; but > you can bet it's some chemical. > > By comparison, Italian has 250-350,000, Mandarin Chinese, 500,000. We > got a lot of syntax to figure out. > "English doesn't borrow from other languages. English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over, and goes through their pockets for loose grammar." (Mark Twain ?) Cheers, Michael Kuettner |
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On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 22:12:40 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote: > What about bomb, comb, tomb, and womb? Tomb and womb rhyme. -- Never trust a dog to watch your food. |
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On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 07:08:48 -0800 (PST), Kalmia
> wrote: > On Nov 15, 1:12*am, " > wrote: > > On Nov 14, 10:15*pm, learnspeakingenglish > > > > > wrote: > > > We will begin with BOX and the plural is BOXES. > > > > > But the plural OX should be OXEN and not OXES. > > > > > Visit for more > > > > >http://sites.google.com/site/easyeng...-the-funniest-... > > > > What I'd like to know is how come bough, cough, dough, rough, and > > tough don't all rhyme? *What about bomb, comb, tomb, and womb? > > And don't forget trough. plus tough and cough -- Never trust a dog to watch your food. |
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On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 08:27:22 -0000, Ophelia wrote:
> > wrote in message > ... >> On Nov 14, 10:15 pm, learnspeakingenglish >> > wrote: >>> We will begin with BOX and the plural is BOXES. >>> >>> But the plural OX should be OXEN and not OXES. >>> >>> Visit for more >>> >>> http://sites.google.com/site/easyeng...-the-funniest-... >> >> What I'd like to know is how come bough, cough, dough, rough, and >> tough don't all rhyme? What about bomb, comb, tomb, and womb? > > Just to catch you out.... <eg> > -- when you're the top dog in the language department you can do any ****ing thing you want. your pal, blake |
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On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 08:32:07 -0800, sf > wrote:
>On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 22:12:40 -0800 (PST), " > wrote: > >> What about bomb, comb, tomb, and womb? > >Tomb and womb rhyme. And for you they're synonymous. LOL |
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On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 16:44:04 +0100, Michael Kuettner wrote:
> "Gorio" schrieb : >> >> >> English just added it's one millionth word. I don't know what it is; but >> you can bet it's some chemical. >> >> By comparison, Italian has 250-350,000, Mandarin Chinese, 500,000. We >> got a lot of syntax to figure out. >> > > "English doesn't borrow from other languages. > English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over, > and goes through their pockets for loose grammar." > (Mark Twain ?) > > Cheers, > > Michael Kuettner according to wikipedia: "The Purity of the English Language" In 1990, in the Usenet group rec.arts.sf-lovers, Nicoll wrote the following epigram on the English language: The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_D._Nicoll> your pal, blake |
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![]() "blake murphy" > wrote in message ... > On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 08:27:22 -0000, Ophelia wrote: > >> > wrote in message >> ... >>> On Nov 14, 10:15 pm, learnspeakingenglish >>> > wrote: >>>> We will begin with BOX and the plural is BOXES. >>>> >>>> But the plural OX should be OXEN and not OXES. >>>> >>>> Visit for more >>>> >>>> http://sites.google.com/site/easyeng...-the-funniest-... >>> >>> What I'd like to know is how come bough, cough, dough, rough, and >>> tough don't all rhyme? What about bomb, comb, tomb, and womb? >> >> Just to catch you out.... <eg> >> -- > > when you're the top dog in the language department you can do any ****ing > thing you want. roflmaoooooooo -- -- https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |
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Il 15/11/2010 15:40, Michael Kuettner ha scritto:
>> The German word for potato is Kartoffel. However in my German dialect >> potatoes are referred to as: Erd Aepffel. Erd = Earth, Aepfell(the >> way we pronounce it) = Appels. > Erdapfel. Erdaepfel is the plural. Very similar to the dutch "aardappel" > Tomato = Paradeiser (apple from paradise). Here it is pomodoro, from pomo d'oro: golden apple -- Vilco And the Family Stone So che faccio il tuo gioco rispondendo a questo post |
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On Nov 15, 7:44*am, "Michael Kuettner" >
wrote: > "Gorio" schrieb : > > > > > > > > > 'Ophelia[_7_ Wrote: > >> On Nov 14, 10:15 pm, learnspeakingenglish > >> wrote:- > >> We will begin with BOX and the plural is BOXES. > > >> But the plural OX should be OXEN and not OXES. > > >> Visit for more > > >>http://sites.google.com/site/easyeng...-the-funniest-.... > > >> What I'd like to know is how come bough, cough, dough, rough, and > >> tough don't all rhyme? *What about bomb, comb, tomb, and womb?- > > >> Just to catch you out.... eg > >> -- > >> -- > >>https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ > > > English just added it's one millionth word. I don't know what it is; but > > you can bet it's some chemical. > > > By comparison, Italian has 250-350,000, Mandarin Chinese, 500,000. We > > got a lot of syntax to figure out. > > "English doesn't borrow from other languages. > English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over, > and goes through their pockets for loose grammar." > (Mark Twain ?) > > Cheers, > > Michael Kuettner- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - LOL!! |
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Il 15/11/2010 14:06, Gorio ha scritto:
> English just added it's one millionth word. I don't know what it is; but > you can bet it's some chemical. > > By comparison, Italian has 250-350,000, Mandarin Chinese, 500,000. We > got a lot of syntax to figure out. True, but one ha salso to check which words are used and which aren't. The Oxford English Dictionary lists circa 1 million words, but the Random House Current English Dictionary lists about 350,000. I'd like to have the same figures for italian, though. -- Vilco And the Family Stone Ovviamente so benissimo... |
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Kalmia wrote:
> On Nov 15, 1:12 am, " > wrote: >> On Nov 14, 10:15 pm, learnspeakingenglish >> >> > wrote: >>> We will begin with BOX and the plural is BOXES. >>> But the plural OX should be OXEN and not OXES. >>> Visit for more >>> http://sites.google.com/site/easyeng...-the-funniest-... >> What I'd like to know is how come bough, cough, dough, rough, and >> tough don't all rhyme? What about bomb, comb, tomb, and womb? > > And don't forget trough. And enough. gloria p |
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On Nov 16, 3:40*am, "Michael Kuettner" >
wrote: > "A Moose In Love" schrieb : > > On Nov 14, 10:53 pm, Lil Abner > wrote: > >> On 11/14/2010 10:15 PM, learnspeakingenglish wrote: > >> BOX and the plural is BOXES. > >> > But the plural OX should be OXEN and not OXES. A late northern Old English or Middle English plural in -s and a traditional Old English weak plural in -n. And MEN/MEN is an example of a traditional Old English strong plural. All this will be familiar to German-speakers, speaking of whom. . . . > >> How about French where Potatoes are apples of or from the earth. > >> English evolved from Germanic languages. > > The German word for potato is Kartoffel. *However in my German dialect > > potatoes are referred to as: *Erd Aepffel. *Erd = Earth, Aepfell(the > > way we pronounce it) = Appels. > > Erdapfel. Erdaepfel is the plural. Ah, yes. My Berlin-learned German raised some eyebrows in Vienna. And speaking of potatoes, the English name, too, is peculiar beause it comes from the Taino word for the sweet potato, "batata". Somehow the vegetables became confused - did sweet potatoes, being from the Caribbean, get to Europe before the Andean potato? I wonder what our word for a potato would be if it had been derived from the Qechua word for the vegetable. Here in Polynesia the sweet potato is the "kumara", also derived from some American language. LW |
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ViLco wrote:
> >True, but one ha salso to check which words are used and which aren't. >The Oxford English Dictionary lists circa 1 million words, but the >Random House Current English Dictionary lists about 350,000. >I'd like to have the same figures for italian, though. Italian has maybe forty spoken words... and more than 350,000 gesticulations. lol Italian dictionary: http://www.alternative-dictionaries....onary/Italian/ |
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Il 15/11/2010 22:39, Brooklyn1 ha scritto:
>> True, but one ha salso to check which words are used and which aren't. >> The Oxford English Dictionary lists circa 1 million words, but the >> Random House Current English Dictionary lists about 350,000. >> I'd like to have the same figures for italian, though. > Italian has maybe forty spoken words... > and more than 350,000 gesticulations. lol > > Italian dictionary: > http://www.alternative-dictionaries....onary/Italian/ LOL Jokes apart, you americans have a kind of gesticulation too, and it's really strange for us italians as our gesticulation is strange for you there. Take the quotation marks gesture, for example. Nobody would ever do that in Italy, it sounds geeky and childish here. Who knows? Anyway, I'm now greeting you the world famous umbrella gesture, and if you're grown up in a guido populated place you should know what I mean. This shows it well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XI8sE_56UU -- Vilco And the Family Stone So che faccio il tuo gioco rispondendo a questo post |
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ViLco wrote:
> Jokes apart, you americans have a kind of gesticulation too, and it's > really strange for us italians as our gesticulation is strange for you > there. Take the quotation marks gesture, for example. Nobody would ever do that > in Italy, it sounds geeky and childish here. In my experience people ehre don't do it nearly as much as they used to for the same reason. Who knows? > Anyway, I'm now greeting you the world famous umbrella gesture, and if > you're grown up in a guido populated place you should know what I mean. > This shows it well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XI8sE_56UU I used to see it often when we lived in a very Italian area of Rhode Island but as I recall it had NOTHING to do with an umbrella. I always thought of it as an overly dramatic rendering of the middle finger gesture for men who were exaggerating their genital proportions. gloria p |
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On 16/11/2010 2:08 AM, Kalmia wrote:
> On Nov 15, 1:12 am, > wrote: >> On Nov 14, 10:15 pm, learnspeakingenglish >> >> > wrote: >>> We will begin with BOX and the plural is BOXES. >> >>> But the plural OX should be OXEN and not OXES. >> >>> Visit for more >> >>> http://sites.google.com/site/easyeng...-the-funniest-... >> >> What I'd like to know is how come bough, cough, dough, rough, and >> tough don't all rhyme? What about bomb, comb, tomb, and womb? > > And don't forget trough. And here was I thinking that "trough" was the Irish version of "through"! ;-) Krypsis |
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On 16/11/2010 3:33 AM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 07:08:48 -0800 (PST), Kalmia > > wrote: > >> On Nov 15, 1:12 am, > wrote: >>> On Nov 14, 10:15 pm, learnspeakingenglish >>> >>> > wrote: >>>> We will begin with BOX and the plural is BOXES. >>> >>>> But the plural OX should be OXEN and not OXES. >>> >>>> Visit for more >>> >>>> http://sites.google.com/site/easyeng...-the-funniest-... >>> >>> What I'd like to know is how come bough, cough, dough, rough, and >>> tough don't all rhyme? What about bomb, comb, tomb, and womb? >> >> And don't forget trough. > > plus tough and cough > No they don't! Subtly different pronunciation! Krypsis |
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On 16/11/2010 4:39 AM, ViLco wrote:
> Il 15/11/2010 14:06, Gorio ha scritto: > >> English just added it's one millionth word. I don't know what it is; but >> you can bet it's some chemical. >> >> By comparison, Italian has 250-350,000, Mandarin Chinese, 500,000. We >> got a lot of syntax to figure out. > > True, but one ha salso to check which words are used and which aren't. > The Oxford English Dictionary lists circa 1 million words, but the > Random House Current English Dictionary lists about 350,000. > I'd like to have the same figures for italian, though. The words one uses is dependent upon the socioeconomic group one inhabits. Krypsis |
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On 16/11/2010 5:16 AM, gloria.p wrote:
> Kalmia wrote: >> On Nov 15, 1:12 am, " > wrote: >>> On Nov 14, 10:15 pm, learnspeakingenglish >>> >>> > wrote: >>>> We will begin with BOX and the plural is BOXES. >>>> But the plural OX should be OXEN and not OXES. >>>> Visit for more >>>> http://sites.google.com/site/easyeng...-the-funniest-... >>>> >>> What I'd like to know is how come bough, cough, dough, rough, and >>> tough don't all rhyme? What about bomb, comb, tomb, and womb? >> >> And don't forget trough. > > And enough. > > gloria p American spelling trough = troff through = thru tough = tuff cough = coff enough = enuff ;-) Krypsis |
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Krypsis > wrote in
u: > On 16/11/2010 5:16 AM, gloria.p wrote: >> Kalmia wrote: >>> On Nov 15, 1:12 am, " > wrote: >>>> On Nov 14, 10:15 pm, learnspeakingenglish >>>> >>>> > wrote: >>>>> We will begin with BOX and the plural is BOXES. >>>>> But the plural OX should be OXEN and not OXES. >>>>> Visit for more >>>>> http://sites.google.com/site/easyeng...r/english-the- funniest- >>>>> ... >>>>> >>>> What I'd like to know is how come bough, cough, dough, rough, and >>>> tough don't all rhyme? What about bomb, comb, tomb, and womb? >>> >>> And don't forget trough. >> >> And enough. >> >> gloria p > > American spelling > > trough = troff > through = thru > tough = tuff > cough = coff > enough = enuff > > ;-) > > Krypsis > > Aussie slang..... 'Koff..... as in far koff :-) And let's not talk about router ('Merican version = rooter) -- Peter Lucas Hobart Tasmania "As viscous as motor oil swirled in a swamp, redolent of burnt bell peppers nested in by incontinent mice and a finish reminiscent of the dregs of a stale can of Coca-Cola that someone has been using as an ashtray. Not a bad drink, though." Excerpt from "The Moose Turd Wine Tasting" by T. A. Nonymous |
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I used to teach ESL in Chicago adults from everywhere. I had too tell
them that spelling and pronunciation rules would only get them so far. Some words (and you can't predict which ones) just have to be learned by rote. Of course it helps if you know what language it came from. Yes, a very goofy and rich language. |
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