Omelet wrote:

> Very few hospitals launder or purchase their workers scrub suits. We are
> on our own on that one!
>
> And my scrubs are likely cleaner than your mouth Shel' honey.

Well, that's cause you work in a lab. Many lab techs wear a lab coat
over their clothes (not always scrubs).

"Pete C." > wrote in message
ster.com...
>

> The UPS and FedEx drivers in my area do indeed shut off the engine, even
> for the few minutes it takes to walk a package to my door.

They do here also. I wonder if it is to save fuel, or for security to
prevent hijacking? Where Sheldon lives there is probably no one around to
steal the truck so it is not such a big deal to leave it running.

Ema Nymton wrote:
> On 11/23/2010 6:13 PM, Dan Abel wrote:
>> I see tons of nurses in uniform in my neighborhood. There is a nursing
>> home down the street. The only hospital is a block from that. Half the
>> medical offices in the city are within a short distance of the hospital.
>> A lot of nurses are out walking on their breaks/lunch, I suspect.
>
> About 2 miles from where I live, there is a daycare center, my dentist
> office and the vet's office, all of these people wear scrubs. When I see
> someone wearing scrubs, I have no idea where they work.
>
> Becca

That is one argument put forth by people who want RNs to return to
wearing whites to help with recognition. No one (in particular
patients!) knew if a staff member is a nurse or the housekeeper when
everyone is in scrubs.
In years past in the US back when nurses wore dresses only Registered
Nurses wore white stockings (LPNs/LVNs wore natural) and of course those
caps (although men were never considered here).

Omelet wrote:
> In article >,
> Ema Nymton > wrote:
>> About 2 miles from where I live, there is a daycare center, my dentist
>> office and the vet's office, all of these people wear scrubs. When I see
>> someone wearing scrubs, I have no idea where they work.
>>
>> Becca
>
> Does it really matter?
>
> Would y'all rather live without those that do public service?
>
> Do it all yourself then.

Well, yes, it *can* really matter! The elderly for example still equate
white uniforms with "the nurse". Patients and family members have no
idea who is whom. People often get their "identity" from a visual image
such as wearing scrubs. If a police officer were to come to my unit
wearing scrubs, do you think I'd take him half as seriously as I do when
he wears his uniform?

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> "Pete C." > wrote in message
> ster.com...
> >
>
> > The UPS and FedEx drivers in my area do indeed shut off the engine, even
> > for the few minutes it takes to walk a package to my door.
>
> They do here also. I wonder if it is to save fuel, or for security to
> prevent hijacking? Where Sheldon lives there is probably no one around to
> steal the truck so it is not such a big deal to leave it running.

Where I live is pretty safe as well, could be a regional thing, or
drivers afraid of Sheldon wanting to keep the truck running for a rapid
escape.

On 11/25/2010 2:35 PM, Omelet wrote:
> In monster.com>,
> "Pete > wrote:
>
>> Well, if the label is to be believed, my Duracells, the only battery
>> brand I buy, are still made in the U.S.
>
> I was purchasing Energizers as they'd always outlasted Duracells for me,
> but these new Generic ones made in China are just as good.
>
> Sorry, but I go thru a lot of batteries for the EMS unit, and 10 bucks
> per package adds up.
>
> China does nearly as much importing as it does exporting.
> It's a balancing act.

That would give you the warm and fuzzies to believe that but the Chinese
are winning:

For 2009 the net difference (in China's favor) was $-226,877,200,000.00

For 2010 reporting ending September it was $-201,233,100,000.00


http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/...5700.html#2009

http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/...5700.html#2010

On 11/25/2010 11:22 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> "Pete C." > wrote in message
> ster.com...
>>
>
>> The UPS and FedEx drivers in my area do indeed shut off the engine, even
>> for the few minutes it takes to walk a package to my door.
>
> They do here also. I wonder if it is to save fuel, or for security to
> prevent hijacking? Where Sheldon lives there is probably no one around
> to steal the truck so it is not such a big deal to leave it running.

Its corporate policy to save fuel. I think Sheldens memories are from
the past. Maybe he needs to provide some pictures...

My buddies brother is some sort of FedX operations manager in the
northeast (which would include Shelden) and I remember him mentioning
their policy probably 7 or 8 years ago. I was at a relatives home who
lives on a dirt road in a really rural area for almost a week last year
and both FedX and UPS made deliveries and both shut their engines off
for the very short time it took to make the delivery. In one case I was
standing there in the driveway and the guy handed the package to me
without even getting out of the truck. My understanding is that not
shutting the engine off is a cause for dismissal.

On 11/25/2010 10:56 AM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 07:14:21 -0500, >
> wrote:
>
>> On 11/24/2010 11:46 AM, sf wrote:
>>> On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 10:49:04 -0500, >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Obama can't keep picking folks pockets to "stimulate" the
>>>> economy forever instead of having real jobs.
>>>
>>> Don't blame Obama for this mess. It was in the pipeline long before
>>> he took office and will still be here for our grandchildren to deal
>>> with.
>>>
>>
>> Maybe read it again without oh oh someone is attacking Obama filter?.
>
> Are you claiming what I said isn't true?
>

Absolutely. I made no claims as to who was responsible. However I did
suggest that the current administrations policies are not the way out.
The government can't spend us into prosperity.

On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 23:22:52 -0500, "Ed Pawlowski"
> wrote:

>
>"Pete C." > wrote in message
nster.com...
>>
>
>> The UPS and FedEx drivers in my area do indeed shut off the engine, even
>> for the few minutes it takes to walk a package to my door.
>
>They do here also. I wonder if it is to save fuel, or for security to
>prevent hijacking? Where Sheldon lives there is probably no one around to
>steal the truck so it is not such a big deal to leave it running.

Would never occur to me that anyone would steal the delivery vehicle,
with large vans they park at the foot of my driveway and walk to my
garage door, if a small panel truck they just pull in, they never ring
my bell, they leave stuff at my garage door, only very occasionally
does the item require my sig, when I don't answer the bell they leave
an attempte4d delivery ticket hanging on my doorknob... when they see
me nearby on my tractor we meet halfway. When they park in town for a
lunch break they do shut off the motor but more importantly they lock
the van to protect its cargo. But where I live people leave all kinds
of very expensive farm implements unattended, and especially
livestock... I've never heard of anything being stolen... sometimes
livestock will jump the fence and wander around... last year two very
expensive breeding cows escaped as they were being taken off a truck,
they headed into the woods and have never been seen since. Speculation
is coyotes or mountain lions stole them.

On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 18:23:23 -0800, sf > wrote:

>On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 15:15:11 -0600, Omelet >
>wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> Ema Nymton > wrote:
>>
>> > On 11/23/2010 6:13 PM, Dan Abel wrote:
>> >
>> > About 2 miles from where I live, there is a daycare center, my dentist
>> > office and the vet's office, all of these people wear scrubs. When I see
>> > someone wearing scrubs, I have no idea where they work.
>> >
>> > Becca
>>
>> Does it really matter?
>>
>> Would y'all rather live without those that do public service?
>>
>> Do it all yourself then.
>
>She was just pointing out that more people than those in the medical
>profession wear scrubs.

And they all should be presumed to be contaminated with biological
waste... what would yoose think if I approached you in public wearing
my sometimes work outfit of white coveralls, hard hat with radioactive
symbol, film badge, and carrying a geiger counter?

On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 23:19:50 -0500, Goomba >
wrote:

>Omelet wrote:
>
>> Very few hospitals launder or purchase their workers scrub suits. We are
>> on our own on that one!
>>
>> And my scrubs are likely cleaner than your mouth Shel' honey.
>
>Well, that's cause you work in a lab. Many lab techs wear a lab coat
>over their clothes (not always scrubs).

I don't think lab workers wear scrubs, not unless they can't find a
lab coat to fit them.

On 11/25/2010 3:15 PM, Omelet wrote:
> In >,
> Ema > wrote:
>
>> On 11/23/2010 6:13 PM, Dan Abel wrote:
>>> I see tons of nurses in uniform in my neighborhood. There is a nursing
>>> home down the street. The only hospital is a block from that. Half the
>>> medical offices in the city are within a short distance of the hospital.
>>> A lot of nurses are out walking on their breaks/lunch, I suspect.
>> About 2 miles from where I live, there is a daycare center, my dentist
>> office and the vet's office, all of these people wear scrubs. When I see
>> someone wearing scrubs, I have no idea where they work.
>>
>> Becca
> Does it really matter?
>
> Would y'all rather live without those that do public service?
>
> Do it all yourself then.

There isn't much I won't do, but I refuse to do my own dentistry. ;-)

Becca

On Nov 22, 2:39*pm, Chemo the Clown > wrote:
> On Nov 21, 8:35*pm, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > pavane wrote:
> > > "Pete C." > wrote in message
> > nster.com...
> > > |
> > > | Please refrain from purchasing Rubbermaid products and recommend others
> > > | do the same. This formerly reputable company is now engaging in country
> > > | of origin labeling fraud.
> > > |
> > > | This evening I purchased at Sam's a 50 piece Rubbermaid food container
> > > | set. This set comes in a box marked "Made in the U.S.A. of Global
> > > | Components", implying that it is actually manufactured in the U.S.A.. of
> > > | globally sourced raw materials like plastic resin.
> > > |
> > > | In reality it seems that nearly every piece inside the box that is
> > > | marked with a country of origin indicates that is was "Made in
> > > | Malaysia", not the U.S.A. Many of the components are not marked with the
> > > | country of origin either. The truth here is that this product was
> > > | essentially "Made in Malaysia" and packaged in the U.S.A., making the
> > > | country of origin claim on the box fraudulent.
> > > |
> > > | I have filed a complaint with the FTC as well as on the Rubbermaid site.
> > > | I will be returning the fraudulently labeled product tomorrow and will
> > > | not be purchasing any Rubbermaid products in the future.
>
> > > Do a search on "rubbermaid and walmart" and you will see what
> > > actually happened. *It was one of the first American companies
> > > that Wal-Mart deliberately bankrupted and took over for its name
> > > while it cheapened its products horribly by sending them to god-
> > > knows-where for manufacture. *This is the Devil at work.
>
> > > pavane
>
> > This is why I don't shop at WalMart.
> > --
> > Jean B.
>
> Same here.

Unrestrained Capitalism itself is the devil. Wal Mart is just doing
what it is supposed to do, maximize shareholder value. Our framework
of laws permits abuses, and Wal Mart is just more effective at
exploiting the weaknesses of that framework. We need to change the
legal structure that they operate within. Unfortunately it's easier--
and less cognitively taxing--to point at Wal Mart and say,
"Bogeyman!" Capitalism is amoral. The only morality comes from the
laws we can make to restrain the actions of the corporations.

--Bryan

On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 16:33:49 -0800 (PST), Bryan
> wrote:

> The only morality comes from the
> laws we can make to restrain the actions of the corporations.

Too bad morality needs to be legislated; but this isn't a recent turn
of events.

--

Never trust a dog to watch your food.

On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 22:01:06 -0600, Omelet >
wrote:
>
> In article >,
> Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 18:23:23 -0800, sf > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >She was just pointing out that more people than those in the medical
> > >profession wear scrubs.
> >
> > And they all should be presumed to be contaminated with biological
> > waste... what would yoose think if I approached you in public wearing
> > my sometimes work outfit of white coveralls, hard hat with radioactive
> > symbol, film badge, and carrying a geiger counter?
>
> I'd check the date to see if it was October 31,,, <g>

Some people just wear scrubs as a fashion statement, like some people
wear fatigues and no how, no way are they in the armed forces (they
wouldn't even be considered a good candidate for duty).

--

Never trust a dog to watch your food.

On Nov 26, 6:54*pm, sf > wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 16:33:49 -0800 (PST), Bryan
>
> > wrote:
> > The only morality comes from the
> > laws we can make to restrain the actions of the corporations.
>
> Too bad morality needs to be legislated; but this isn't a recent turn
> of events.
>
It's the nature of the beast. A century ago, people still plowed with
mules. Mules were infamous for kicking, but the solution wasn't
getting rid of the mule. It was understanding the mule's nature--
strong and hard working, but prone to kicking--and not putting the
mule in a position to kick you. The mule, like Capitalism, exists to
serve humankind, not the other way around (man not being made for the
sabbath). Capitalism has become fetishized. Mammon demands
sacrifices. Unless the sweat of working people goes to enrich others
(for a pleasing aroma), and unless the wealth gap is continually
widened, the Lord Mammon is not happy.
Remember the creed: "There is no god above Mammon, and Ayn Rand (or
was that Alan Greenspan) is his prophet."

--Bryan