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The bottom burner of the stove ust suddenly burned out and chances of
it getting fixed before Thanksgiving is about 50/50. Not very good
odds, but as Mr. Spock would say, there are always possibilities
(although he did admit that he could be wrong about that). We have a
couple of nice ducks just waiting to be cooked Thursday. If the burner
can't be replaced in time, does anyone know if the ducks can be
successfully cooked under the broiler?

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On Nov 22, 3:21*pm, Ron > wrote:
> The bottom burner of the stove ust suddenly burned out and chances of
> it getting fixed before Thanksgiving is about 50/50. Not very good
> odds, but as Mr. Spock would say, there are always possibilities
> (although he did admit that he could be wrong about that). *We have a
> couple of nice ducks just waiting to be cooked Thursday. If the burner
> can't be replaced in time, does anyone know if the ducks can be
> successfully cooked under the broiler?
>
> Ron


Can you fix it yourself? Do you have to order the part?
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On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 15:21:17 -0800 (PST), Ron wrote:

> The bottom burner of the stove ust suddenly burned out and chances of
> it getting fixed before Thanksgiving is about 50/50. Not very good
> odds, but as Mr. Spock would say, there are always possibilities
> (although he did admit that he could be wrong about that). We have a
> couple of nice ducks just waiting to be cooked Thursday. If the burner
> can't be replaced in time, does anyone know if the ducks can be
> successfully cooked under the broiler?


They can't. At least not reliably. Youd be doing an awful lot of
turning like - every 8 minutes for 2+ hours.

Try to swap the out of the bottom element for the top one. Its
worked for me in the past.

Otherwise, the smoker is the best place for a duck

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>On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 15:21:17 -0800 (PST), Ron wrote:


>> The bottom burner of the stove ust suddenly burned out and chances of
>> it getting fixed before Thanksgiving is about 50/50. Not very good
>> odds, but as Mr. Spock would say, there are always possibilities
>> (although he did admit that he could be wrong about that). We have a
>> couple of nice ducks just waiting to be cooked Thursday. If the burner
>> can't be replaced in time, does anyone know if the ducks can be
>> successfully cooked under the broiler?

>
>They can't. At least not reliably. Youd be doing an awful lot of
>turning like - every 8 minutes for 2+ hours.
>
>Try to swap the out of the bottom element for the top one. Its
>worked for me in the past.
>
>Otherwise, the smoker is the best place for a duck


A dutch oven on the stovetop will work for duck also.

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> There's also flipping the ducks in the middle of the
> cooking process.


It would probably be easier to spatchcock them.

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On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 15:21:17 -0800 (PST), Ron >
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> The bottom burner of the stove ust suddenly burned out and chances of
> it getting fixed before Thanksgiving is about 50/50. Not very good
> odds, but as Mr. Spock would say, there are always possibilities
> (although he did admit that he could be wrong about that). We have a
> couple of nice ducks just waiting to be cooked Thursday. If the burner
> can't be replaced in time, does anyone know if the ducks can be
> successfully cooked under the broiler?
>

Ducks are fatty, so I wouldn't recommend it unless you love cleaning
the oven. Find an alternative recipe that you can make in a pot. If
your heart is set on roasting, see if you can borrow a turkey roaster
and cook them in that.

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> A dutch oven on the stovetop will work for duck also.


That would work in the oven as well. Covered. Uncovered the last
30 minutes to crisp up the skin.

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On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 19:15:58 -0600, Sky wrote:

> Perhaps "spatchcocking" the duck will help when it's cooked under a
> broiler in addition to the above. That way, the bird is mostly the same
> 'depth' (vertical width) and will cook evenly all the better without any
> turning.


Word of warning - spatchcocking a duck is not easy. Not easy a t
all. Ducks are much more sturdy than chickens. It requires a
hacksaw, nothing less.

But spatchcocking is a good idea, at the lowest point in the oven
and tented with foil as Marty mentioned. I still think it may get
too much heat on top and not much underneath.

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Ron wrote:
> The bottom burner of the stove ust suddenly burned out and chances of
> it getting fixed before Thanksgiving is about 50/50. Not very good
> odds, but as Mr. Spock would say, there are always possibilities
> (although he did admit that he could be wrong about that). We have a
> couple of nice ducks just waiting to be cooked Thursday. If the burner
> can't be replaced in time, does anyone know if the ducks can be
> successfully cooked under the broiler?
>
> Ron




NO! They will burn before they cook. DO you have an outdoor grill?

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On Nov 22, 4:16*pm, Chemo the Clown > wrote:
> On Nov 22, 3:21*pm, Ron > wrote:
>
> > The bottom burner of the stove ust suddenly burned out and chances of
> > it getting fixed before Thanksgiving is about 50/50. Not very good
> > odds, but as Mr. Spock would say, there are always possibilities
> > (although he did admit that he could be wrong about that). *We have a
> > couple of nice ducks just waiting to be cooked Thursday. If the burner
> > can't be replaced in time, does anyone know if the ducks can be
> > successfully cooked under the broiler?

>
> > Ron

>
> Can you fix it yourself? Do you have to order the part?


LOL. Probably. I got into electronics when I was in the 5th or 6th
grade because of a Robert A. Heinlein book that I came across, and
those skills have stayed with me for life. Oddly enough, that's when I
first learned to cook, too... Anyhoo, fixing the stove isn't [quite]
as easy as I thought it would be-- some schmuck decided to use bolts
instead of simple slotted screws for all the connections-- but if I
can find a replacement element at a local store, I should have the
stove fixed in less than 30 minutes. The burners are pretty common;
with a little luck I should be able to find a parts supply place
pretty easily before T-Day. ;-)

Ron
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On 11/22/2010 9:53 PM, Omelet wrote:
> In article
> >,
> > wrote:
>
>> The bottom burner of the stove ust suddenly burned out and chances of
>> it getting fixed before Thanksgiving is about 50/50. Not very good
>> odds, but as Mr. Spock would say, there are always possibilities
>> (although he did admit that he could be wrong about that). We have a
>> couple of nice ducks just waiting to be cooked Thursday. If the burner
>> can't be replaced in time, does anyone know if the ducks can be
>> successfully cooked under the broiler?

>
> Seriously, go out and purchase a decent Toaster oven. You won't regret
> it! Especially if you opt for the convection type.
>
> They are usually under $100.00.


AMEN! Toaster ovens are worth their weight in foods and more! The use
of a large range-oven to bake a single potato just doesn't make sense!
But then, how many folks use common sense ??? <VBG!>

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Ron > wrote:
> The bottom burner of the stove ust suddenly burned out and chances of
> it getting fixed before Thanksgiving is about 50/50. Not very good
> odds, but as Mr. Spock would say, there are always possibilities
> (although he did admit that he could be wrong about that). *We have a
> couple of nice ducks just waiting to be cooked Thursday. If the burner
> can't be replaced in time, does anyone know if the ducks can be
> successfully cooked under the broiler?


Attempting to bake/roast with the broiler element will ruin your ducks
or anything else... the tops will burn while the interiors remain raw.
Oven elements are simple to replace... DIY.
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>In article
>,
> Ron > wrote:
>
>> The bottom burner of the stove ust suddenly burned out and chances of
>> it getting fixed before Thanksgiving is about 50/50. Not very good
>> odds, but as Mr. Spock would say, there are always possibilities
>> (although he did admit that he could be wrong about that). We have a
>> couple of nice ducks just waiting to be cooked Thursday. If the burner
>> can't be replaced in time, does anyone know if the ducks can be
>> successfully cooked under the broiler?
>>
>> Ron

>
>Seriously, go out and purchase a decent Toaster oven. You won't regret
>it! Especially if you opt for the convection type.
>
>They are usually under $100.00.


A toaster oven won't work for duck, let alone two... with all that fat
it'd be e disaster. If I had no oven I'd cut the duck into small
parts and pan/wok fry them... I'd probably bone the duck too. But
it's really no biggie to replace an oven element, not much more than
changing a light bulb... any appliance shop will sell elements and
will advise... nowadays many stove elements are plug-in.
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On 11/22/2010 9:35 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
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>> A dutch oven on the stovetop will work for duck also.

>
> That would work in the oven as well. Covered. Uncovered the last
> 30 minutes to crisp up the skin.
>
> -sw


Just about every big box store and half of the supermarkets are selling
electric roasters for a pittance. Definitely under $30. The ducks should
fit quite well and you can save the fat from the bottom.

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On 11/22/2010 9:35 PM, Sqwertz wrote:

>> A dutch oven on the stovetop will work for duck also.


> That would work in the oven as well. Covered. Uncovered the last
> 30 minutes to crisp up the skin.


Yes but the OP said his oven has failed.

It's always better to place a dutch oven inside an oven, IMO.

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On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 02:27:43 -0600, Sky >
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> AMEN! Toaster ovens are worth their weight in foods and more! The use
> of a large range-oven to bake a single potato just doesn't make sense!
> But then, how many folks use common sense ??? <VBG!>


<shrug> The cost to heat a regular sized oven is minimal and I'd
rather have my counter space for work, not appliance storage. The
microwave takes up enough space as it is.

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On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:42:00 +0000 (UTC), Steve Pope wrote:

> On 11/22/2010 9:35 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>
>>> A dutch oven on the stovetop will work for duck also.

>
>> That would work in the oven as well. Covered. Uncovered the last
>> 30 minutes to crisp up the skin.

>
> Yes but the OP said his oven has failed.
>
> It's always better to place a dutch oven inside an oven, IMO.


No. He said the bottom element of his oven has failed. He still
has a top broiling element.

C'mon Steve, we expect better from you. Snap out of it!

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On Nov 22, 5:21*pm, Ron > wrote:
> The bottom burner of the stove ust suddenly burned out and chances of
> it getting fixed before Thanksgiving is about 50/50. Not very good
> odds, but as Mr. Spock would say, there are always possibilities
> (although he did admit that he could be wrong about that). *We have a
> couple of nice ducks just waiting to be cooked Thursday. If the burner
> can't be replaced in time, does anyone know if the ducks can be
> successfully cooked under the broiler?
>
> Ron


I used to change the heating element in my stove myself - is yours
gas? I know nothing about gas ovens.

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Sqwertz wrote:
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> Word of warning - spatchcocking a duck is not easy. Not easy a t
> all. Ducks are much more sturdy than chickens. It requires a
> hacksaw, nothing less.
>
> But spatchcocking is a good idea, at the lowest point in the oven
> and tented with foil as Marty mentioned. I still think it may get
> too much heat on top and not much underneath.


Cut the ducks into parts rather than cooking them whole spatchcocked.
Start the legs tented. Add the breasts still tented. Add the wings
about the time you remove the tent.

Use a sheet pan with a rack so the melting fat drips down to be saved.
Rendered duck and goose fat are superior frying oils.

Alternately remove the main skeleton by gradually turning them inside
out. The bones in the limbs remain. Turn right side out and cook them
flat on the bottom rack. Start back up for the first half then turn
breat up for the second half. I've done the boneless thing to make a
stuffed duck and it was really good. Leaving out the stuffing to have a
mostly flat duck should work fine.

In an intact oven I've tried upright ducks beer can style. The idea was
the rendered fat would drip out better. It sorta worked but I had to
remove all of the racks to get them to fit. Not worth the effort to do
it again.


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On Nov 23, 10:03*am, sf > wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 02:27:43 -0600, Sky >
> wrote:
>
> > AMEN! *Toaster ovens are worth their weight in foods and more! *The use
> > of a large range-oven to bake a single potato just doesn't make sense!
> > But then, how many folks use common sense ??? <VBG!>

>
> <shrug> The cost to heat a regular sized oven is minimal and I'd
> rather have my counter space for work, not appliance storage. *The
> microwave takes up enough space as it is.
>
>
>

Wow, you must be getting your electricity free! I have an Oster
toaster/convection oven that I use much more than I do the oven for
the stove. It's perfect for small jobs such as baked potatoes and
such.

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> Just about every big box store and half of the supermarkets are selling
> electric roasters for a pittance. Definitely under $30.


Under $30? Wow, good price!

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itsjoannotjoann wrote:
> On Nov 23, 10:03 am, sf > wrote:
>> On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 02:27:43 -0600, Sky >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> AMEN! Toaster ovens are worth their weight in foods and more! The use
>>> of a large range-oven to bake a single potato just doesn't make sense!
>>> But then, how many folks use common sense ??? <VBG!>

>> <shrug> The cost to heat a regular sized oven is minimal and I'd
>> rather have my counter space for work, not appliance storage. The
>> microwave takes up enough space as it is.
>>
>>
>>

> Wow, you must be getting your electricity free! I have an Oster
> toaster/convection oven that I use much more than I do the oven for
> the stove. It's perfect for small jobs such as baked potatoes and
> such.
>

I've never owned or wanted to own a toaster oven. For what point? I
can't recall if I've ever baked just one potato, and I have a toaster
for bread. My counter space isn't an appliance parking lot for rarely
used items.
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On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 08:24:21 -0800 (PST), itsjoannotjoann
> wrote:

> On Nov 23, 10:03*am, sf > wrote:
> > On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 02:27:43 -0600, Sky >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > AMEN! *Toaster ovens are worth their weight in foods and more! *The use
> > > of a large range-oven to bake a single potato just doesn't make sense!
> > > But then, how many folks use common sense ??? <VBG!>

> >
> > <shrug> The cost to heat a regular sized oven is minimal and I'd
> > rather have my counter space for work, not appliance storage. *The
> > microwave takes up enough space as it is.
> >
> >
> >

> Wow, you must be getting your electricity free! I have an Oster
> toaster/convection oven that I use much more than I do the oven for
> the stove. It's perfect for small jobs such as baked potatoes and
> such.


The miniscule amount of electricity a conventional oven takes to cook
something for an hour is not an issue for me. I usually roast a tray
of vegetables too.

I had a toaster oven when my kids were kids, but I didn't have it to
save money - I had it to save time since they heat up faster. Mine
was tiny, two slices. I was able to use it as my real toaster because
It toasted just as fast as a conventional toaster. It was only
slightly larger than the two slice toaster I have now. So, I had two
appliances instead of the three you and Om probably have and I didn't
waste my valuable counter space.

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>On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 09:12:45 -0600, Janet Wilder
> wrote:
>
>> Just about every big box store and half of the supermarkets are selling
>> electric roasters for a pittance. Definitely under $30.

>
>Under $30? Wow, good price!


They're all different prices (most cost twice that), but not for one
time use, for $30 I'd rather have the local Chinese restaurant roast
my duck.






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On 2010-11-23, Sky > wrote:

> AMEN! Toaster ovens are worth their weight in foods and more!


I agree. I finally bought a touaster oven and had it for a couple
years before I moved. I used it all the time. Specially handy if one
likes crostinis, bruschetta, toasted cheese, etc. I probably used
it more than my microwave.

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On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 13:02:54 -0600, Omelet >
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> In article >,
> sf > wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 09:12:45 -0600, Janet Wilder
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > Just about every big box store and half of the supermarkets are selling
> > > electric roasters for a pittance. Definitely under $30.

> >
> > Under $30? Wow, good price!

>
> I paid around that for the 18 qt. when I figured in the free 20 lb.
> turkey at $.69 per lb. that came with it. :-)


Does it fit? 18 qts seems small for a 20 lb turkey.

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On Nov 22, 3:21 pm, Ron > wrote:
> The bottom burner of the stove ust suddenly burned out and chances of
> it getting fixed before Thanksgiving is about 50/50. Not very good
> odds, but as Mr. Spock would say, there are always possibilities
> (although he did admit that he could be wrong about that). We have a
> couple of nice ducks just waiting to be cooked Thursday. If the burner
> can't be replaced in time, does anyone know if the ducks can be
> successfully cooked under the broiler?
>

If you have time Wednesday you could make tea smoked duck and then
just have to warm it for Thursday. I've posted a recipe previously,
as has, I think, Victor Sack. The procedures are a little unusual but
it's not really that difficult. All stovetop, first steaming then
smoking. You probably would do one after another rather than both at
once. Very delicious. -aem


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On 11/23/2010 10:43 AM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 09:12:45 -0600, Janet Wilder
> > wrote:
>
>> Just about every big box store and half of the supermarkets are selling
>> electric roasters for a pittance. Definitely under $30.

>
> Under $30? Wow, good price!
>


Yes. HEB, WalMart, K-Mart....

I have one that I got 8 years ago at Target. It's no different from
using an electric oven, leaves the oven free for other stuff and I can
put it out on the screen porch while the turkey roasts. Mine also came
with an insert so you can use it as a buffet server for 3 items.

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On 11/23/2010 1:03 PM, Omelet wrote:
> In >,
> Brooklyn1<Gravesend1> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 08:43:43 -0800, > wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 09:12:45 -0600, Janet Wilder
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just about every big box store and half of the supermarkets are selling
>>>> electric roasters for a pittance. Definitely under $30.
>>>
>>> Under $30? Wow, good price!

>>
>> They're all different prices (most cost twice that), but not for one
>> time use, for $30 I'd rather have the local Chinese restaurant roast
>> my duck.

>
> The Electric Roaster ovens are good for many, many uses.
>
> Not single use.


I have a friend who makes her gravy (Italian tomato sauce) in her Nesco
roaster. I have used mine with the insert for buffets. I have also made
prime rib in it.

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On 11/23/2010 1:42 PM, Omelet wrote:
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> > wrote:
>
>> On 11/22/2010 9:53 PM, Omelet wrote:
>>> In article
>>> >,
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> The bottom burner of the stove ust suddenly burned out and chances of
>>>> it getting fixed before Thanksgiving is about 50/50. Not very good
>>>> odds, but as Mr. Spock would say, there are always possibilities
>>>> (although he did admit that he could be wrong about that). We have a
>>>> couple of nice ducks just waiting to be cooked Thursday. If the burner
>>>> can't be replaced in time, does anyone know if the ducks can be
>>>> successfully cooked under the broiler?
>>>
>>> Seriously, go out and purchase a decent Toaster oven. You won't regret
>>> it! Especially if you opt for the convection type.
>>>
>>> They are usually under $100.00.

>>
>> AMEN! Toaster ovens are worth their weight in foods and more! The use
>> of a large range-oven to bake a single potato just doesn't make sense!
>> But then, how many folks use common sense ???<VBG!>
>>
>> Sky

>
> Common sense is an oxymoron...<winks>
>
> I cook mostly for two so that convection toaster oven has honestly been
> one of the best gadget purchases I've ever made.


I agree. I cook for two and it's much easier to use the convection
toaster oven than the range. Does great fish fillets and chicken breasts.

I made the Nantucket Cranberry Pie a little while ago. I'm going to keep
it in the fridge but about 20 minutes before dessert, I'm putting it in
the toaster convection oven to warm it up. I'll also make rolls ahead
of time and warm them in the toaster oven.

I will take out the turkey half an hour before dinner and put it on a
platter. I'll then use the electric roaster to keep the sweet potatoes
warm. There is a water pan in the roaster that makes it into a steam table.

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> Just about every big box store and half of the supermarkets are selling
> electric roasters for a pittance. Definitely under $30. The ducks should
> fit quite well and you can save the fat from the bottom.


Thrift stores tend to have a pile of those 18 quart electric roasters.
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On 11/23/2010 2:35 PM, Omelet wrote:
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> Janet > wrote:
>
>> On 11/23/2010 10:43 AM, sf wrote:
>>> On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 09:12:45 -0600, Janet Wilder
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just about every big box store and half of the supermarkets are selling
>>>> electric roasters for a pittance. Definitely under $30.
>>>
>>> Under $30? Wow, good price!
>>>

>>
>> Yes. HEB, WalMart, K-Mart....
>>
>> I have one that I got 8 years ago at Target. It's no different from
>> using an electric oven, leaves the oven free for other stuff and I can
>> put it out on the screen porch while the turkey roasts. Mine also came
>> with an insert so you can use it as a buffet server for 3 items.

>
> OH YES!!! I've not used that feature yet. :-) The steam table thingies
> that fit in the insert are stored at the moment with the rest of the
> seldom used kitchen gadgets!
>
> Have you used them yet? How do they work? (as in "how well"). I've
> considered them for new years stuff like swedish meatballs, and maybe
> some sort of hot stuff like beanie weanies made with little smokies and
> such, or even hot dips. I've not tried it yet as a 3 item steam table
> but I don't see why it'd not work.


I have used it. It works very well.

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On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 14:07:35 -0600, Janet Wilder
> wrote:

> On 11/23/2010 10:43 AM, sf wrote:
> > On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 09:12:45 -0600, Janet Wilder
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> Just about every big box store and half of the supermarkets are selling
> >> electric roasters for a pittance. Definitely under $30.

> >
> > Under $30? Wow, good price!
> >

>
> Yes. HEB, WalMart, K-Mart....
>
> I have one that I got 8 years ago at Target. It's no different from
> using an electric oven, leaves the oven free for other stuff and I can
> put it out on the screen porch while the turkey roasts. Mine also came
> with an insert so you can use it as a buffet server for 3 items.


That insert is a very nice perk! Just looked at Google shopping. I
see a red Nesco - I like red. Don't know anything about Nesco, but it
seems pretty small... only 5 quarts.

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On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 20:44:23 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger
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> Thrift stores tend to have a pile of those 18 quart electric roasters.


I should look there first. Thanks.

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On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 13:51:07 -0600, Omelet >
wrote:

> In article >,
> sf > wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 08:24:21 -0800 (PST), itsjoannotjoann
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > On Nov 23, 10:03*am, sf > wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 02:27:43 -0600, Sky >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > AMEN! *Toaster ovens are worth their weight in foods and more! *The use
> > > > > of a large range-oven to bake a single potato just doesn't make sense!
> > > > > But then, how many folks use common sense ??? <VBG!>
> > > >
> > > > <shrug> The cost to heat a regular sized oven is minimal and I'd
> > > > rather have my counter space for work, not appliance storage. *The
> > > > microwave takes up enough space as it is.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Wow, you must be getting your electricity free! I have an Oster
> > > toaster/convection oven that I use much more than I do the oven for
> > > the stove. It's perfect for small jobs such as baked potatoes and
> > > such.

> >
> > The miniscule amount of electricity a conventional oven takes to cook
> > something for an hour is not an issue for me. I usually roast a tray
> > of vegetables too.
> >
> > I had a toaster oven when my kids were kids, but I didn't have it to
> > save money - I had it to save time since they heat up faster. Mine
> > was tiny, two slices. I was able to use it as my real toaster because
> > It toasted just as fast as a conventional toaster. It was only
> > slightly larger than the two slice toaster I have now. So, I had two
> > appliances instead of the three you and Om probably have and I didn't
> > waste my valuable counter space.

>
> My Oster convection holds a 5 lb. chicken... and more.


Yet another gadget. I use my regular oven to cook chicken. Think of
all the electricity you could have bought for the cost of one toaster
oven and a convection oven.

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On 11/23/2010 3:26 PM, Omelet wrote:
> In raweb.com>,
> Janet > wrote:
>
>>>> I have one that I got 8 years ago at Target. It's no different from
>>>> using an electric oven, leaves the oven free for other stuff and I can
>>>> put it out on the screen porch while the turkey roasts. Mine also came
>>>> with an insert so you can use it as a buffet server for 3 items.
>>>
>>> OH YES!!! I've not used that feature yet. :-) The steam table thingies
>>> that fit in the insert are stored at the moment with the rest of the
>>> seldom used kitchen gadgets!
>>>
>>> Have you used them yet? How do they work? (as in "how well"). I've
>>> considered them for new years stuff like swedish meatballs, and maybe
>>> some sort of hot stuff like beanie weanies made with little smokies and
>>> such, or even hot dips. I've not tried it yet as a 3 item steam table
>>> but I don't see why it'd not work.

>>
>> I have used it. It works very well.

>
> Geeze hon' DETAILS please? I'm curious as to what you used it for.
> Private e-mail is fine. This one works and I check it at least once or
> twice per day. :-)


I'll share.

I have used it several times at parties. For a burger and hot dog on the
grill party, I've put chili sauce in one, baked beans in the other and
sauerkraut in the third.

For a new years party, I had pigs in blankets in one, cocktail meat
balls in another and little quiches in the third. Had little tongs nearby.

For a buffet dinner, I had mashed potato in one, steamed green beans
with almonds in another and gravy in the third.

I used it with the water pan as a warmer when I made the maple ginger
salmon for 60+ people at a testimonial dinner at our temple last October.

I don't use it a lot, but when I need it, it's there. Paid for itself in
usefulness. Lasted a while considering it lived in one of the underneath
storage compartments of our fifth wheel for 3 years before we bought the
house. We're here close to 6 years.
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On 11/23/2010 3:39 PM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 13:51:07 -0600, >
> wrote:
>
>> In >,
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 08:24:21 -0800 (PST), itsjoannotjoann
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Nov 23, 10:03 am, > wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 02:27:43 -0600, >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> AMEN! Toaster ovens are worth their weight in foods and more! The use
>>>>>> of a large range-oven to bake a single potato just doesn't make sense!
>>>>>> But then, how many folks use common sense ???<VBG!>
>>>>>
>>>>> <shrug> The cost to heat a regular sized oven is minimal and I'd
>>>>> rather have my counter space for work, not appliance storage. The
>>>>> microwave takes up enough space as it is.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Wow, you must be getting your electricity free! I have an Oster
>>>> toaster/convection oven that I use much more than I do the oven for
>>>> the stove. It's perfect for small jobs such as baked potatoes and
>>>> such.
>>>
>>> The miniscule amount of electricity a conventional oven takes to cook
>>> something for an hour is not an issue for me. I usually roast a tray
>>> of vegetables too.
>>>
>>> I had a toaster oven when my kids were kids, but I didn't have it to
>>> save money - I had it to save time since they heat up faster. Mine
>>> was tiny, two slices. I was able to use it as my real toaster because
>>> It toasted just as fast as a conventional toaster. It was only
>>> slightly larger than the two slice toaster I have now. So, I had two
>>> appliances instead of the three you and Om probably have and I didn't
>>> waste my valuable counter space.

>>
>> My Oster convection holds a 5 lb. chicken... and more.

>
> Yet another gadget. I use my regular oven to cook chicken. Think of
> all the electricity you could have bought for the cost of one toaster
> oven and a convection oven.
>


I do my whole chickens on the beer can thing on the covered gas grill.
We like it that way so much better than in the oven and the house stays
cooler.

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On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 16:10:38 -0600, Janet Wilder
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> I do my whole chickens on the beer can thing on the covered gas grill.
> We like it that way so much better than in the oven and the house stays
> cooler.


That's another thing I don't get. What's all that about using an oven
and heating up a room. My gas stove top does that, not my electric
oven.

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In article >,
sf > wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 16:10:38 -0600, Janet Wilder
> > wrote:
>
> > I do my whole chickens on the beer can thing on the covered gas grill.
> > We like it that way so much better than in the oven and the house stays
> > cooler.

>
> That's another thing I don't get. What's all that about using an oven
> and heating up a room. My gas stove top does that, not my electric
> oven.


Hey! I just figured it out! The reason it doesn't cost you anything in
electricity to use your electric oven, is that it doesn't produce any
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