JL wrote:
>
>
> Mike.. . . . wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 14:11:05 -0600, Omelet wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> embarrasing
>>>
>>>
>>> Why? 'cause it reflects reality? <g>
>>
>>
>>
>> God no! Only the US could think that
>
>
> *chcukle* there's some logic for you.
>
> A Brit t.v. show would only be seen as a reflection of Brit culture by
> non Brits?
>

And other English speaking non Brits with similar "Tabus of savage
Tribes" that "in such matter as Love constrain that True
Love which is born in us; and by this Constraint come
ills of Body and Mind.

Either the Force of Repression carries it, and creates Neuroses and
Insanities; or the Revolt against that Force, breaking forth with
Violence, involves Excesses and
Extravagances.

All these Things are Disorders, and against Nature. Now then learn of me the
testimony of History and literature as a great Scroll of Learning. But
the Vellum of the Scroll is
of Man's Skin, and its Ink of his Heart's Blood."


--

Mr. Joseph Paul Littleshoes Esq.

Domine, dirige nos.

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Mike.. . . . wrote:
> Following up to Mike.. . . .
>
>
>>>Ever see the Peter Sellers movie "The Magic Christian"?
>>
>>fraid not.
>
>
> I just watched a scene on Youtube, if it was typical of the film, its as
> typical of british life as an alaskan bear hunter is of the US.

So what do you want? Mary Poppins? George Girl? The Americanization of
Emily? I am rather fond of the Kenneth Branaugh films but i hardly think
of dear old England as all that Shakespearean anymore

Kind Hearts and Coronets?

I have a soft spot for the BBC production of the Benson "Mapp & Lucia"
texts.

I suppose an analogy could be made with Shaw and Robert Graves but
ancient Romans speaking with British Accents .... well in that vein
might as well just plop for The Ghormanghast Trilogy as a metaphorically
accurate depiction of GB.

The immemorial stones, brooding in umbra."



--

Mr. Joseph Paul Littleshoes Esq.

Domine, dirige nos.

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"Sacha" > wrote in message
...
> On 2010-12-10 12:05:06 +0000, "Mike.. . . ." >
> said:
>
>> On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 14:17:44 -0600, Omelet wrote:
>>
>>> That one is a color variation of the gray I think.
>>
>> red squrrels in spain are black!
>
> Black squirrels are now appearing in numbers in Jersey which has both reds
> and greys. I saw them in my son's garden in November and it was the first
> time I'd spotted them there. He says they're seeing more and more of
> them.

Do you think they will decimate more of the reds?

Alan



> --
> Sacha
>
>

On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 14:18:22 -0800 (PST), in rec.food.cooking, Roy wrote:

>On Dec 7, 12:51*pm, Doug Weller >
>wrote:
>> I've just ordered some squirrel (grey) and was wondering if anyone had any
>> good ideas how to cook it.
>> Thanks
>> Doug
>> --
>> Doug Weller --
>> A Director and Moderator of The Hall of Ma'athttp://www.hallofmaat.com
>> Doug's Archaeology Site:http://www.ramtops.co.uk
>> Amun - co-owner/co-moderatorhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/Amun/
>
>==
>Go he
>
>"http://chestofbooks.com/food/recipes/Allen-Cook-Book/How-To-Cook-
>Squirrels.html"
>

Thanks.
Doug
--
Doug Weller --
A Director and Moderator of The Hall of Ma'at http://www.hallofmaat.com
Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk
Amun - co-owner/co-moderator http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Amun/

"Doug Weller" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 14:18:22 -0800 (PST), in rec.food.cooking, Roy wrote:
>
>>On Dec 7, 12:51 pm, Doug Weller >
>>wrote:
>>> I've just ordered some squirrel (grey) and was wondering if anyone had
>>> any
>>> good ideas how to cook it.
>>> Thanks
>>> Doug

I haven't managed to catch one. I see no reason why it's different from
eating rabbits. I understand the meat is similar but less.
I'd definitely try it and would be glad to eat them
They are a nuisance. They bark the trees and break into my birdboxes to
eat the eggs and babies.
Eat them.

"Christina Websell" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Doug Weller" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 14:18:22 -0800 (PST), in rec.food.cooking, Roy wrote:
>>
>>>On Dec 7, 12:51 pm, Doug Weller >
>>>wrote:
>>>> I've just ordered some squirrel (grey) and was wondering if anyone had
>>>> any
>>>> good ideas how to cook it.
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Doug
>
> I haven't managed to catch one. I see no reason why it's different from
> eating rabbits. I understand the meat is similar but less.
> I'd definitely try it and would be glad to eat them
> They are a nuisance. They bark the trees and break into my birdboxes to
> eat the eggs and babies.
> Eat them.

They do taste similar to rabbit.

--
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Sacha wrote on Sun, 12 Dec 2010 16:27:29 +0000:

>> "Sacha" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 2010-12-10 12:05:06 +0000, "Mike.. . . ."
>>> > said:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 14:17:44 -0600, Omelet wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That one is a color variation of the gray I think.
>>>>
>>>> red squrrels in spain are black!
>>>
>>> Black squirrels are now appearing in numbers in Jersey which
>>> has both reds and greys. I saw them in my son's garden in
>>> November and it was the first time I'd spotted them there.
>>> He says they're seeing more and more of them.
>>
>> Do you think they will decimate more of the reds?
>>
>> Alan

> I don't think it's a question of that, Alan. There are no
> greys in Jersey, so these seem to be a mutation of the reds.

How are you so sure that there are no grey tree-rats in Jersey?

--

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Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

Janet wrote:
> In article >, says...
> #
>
>>So what do you want?
>
>
> Well, it would be nice if you, as an American, could grasp the major
> difference between real life, and the entertainment industry. Of course
> some of your Presidents and politicians have set you a very bad example,
> but that's no excuse.
>
> Janet

Oy!

Political theater and the Crown?

At least we don't have a bunch of strawberry leaf wearing clowns running
around touting hereditary privilege

Now you are not really that naive are you janet?

Is Westminster abby or windsor castle or the music of Handle or Elgar
representative of a British or even English ethos?

Are films less art to you than music or architecture?

The entertainment industry is as much a reflection of the people that
make the films as is anything else people do.

You may not like, agree with or approve of some of the interpretations
of the culture that produced them but that does not make English films
any less English and representative of the people they are about. Does
life imitate art or does art imitate life?

If you want to believe the English or GB can only be understood or
appreciated by a native that's your privilege, but if your going to
publicly suggest any sort of cultural supremacy (or misunderstanding of
the '"entertainment industry") or foreigners ignorance then you are
likely to get an argument based on an interpretation of your own
apparently rather narrow, insular and xenophobic awareness.

Which the Brits are proverbial for.

Why! in America you might be a "red neck"

Brit culture can be understood by non Brits and especially english
speaking non brits cause its not all that different than their own
cultures,

People all over the world are more alike than they are different.

And it is usually only the elitist and snobs that insist on some sort of
cultural impermiability, that decry the misunderstanding and/or loss of
"their" culture by foreign adulteration of less desirable qualities,
which, when analyzed (instead of reacting to with a knee jerk reflex
instinctualism) are seen to be as ordinary and mundane as any other part
of the world.

Or are you one of those people that thinks the British things they like
are admirable examples of Brit culture and things, equally British, you
don't like are not?

As an example of the American ethos there are all sorts of films i could
suggest, but Koyaanisqatsi (life out of balance) is a good example.

Please understand, i am not saying any culture is better than any other,
no culture qua culture is superior to another, they all have their
good and bad qualities that go to make up a whole that is not all that
different from one place to the next.

Even Brits are not unique in thinking themselves uniquely superior, God
is an Englishman and all that
--

Mr. Joseph Paul Littleshoes Esq.

Domine, dirige nos.

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"James Silverton" > wrote in message
...
> Sacha wrote on Sun, 12 Dec 2010 16:27:29 +0000:
>
>>> "Sacha" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 2010-12-10 12:05:06 +0000, "Mike.. . . ."
>>>> > said:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 14:17:44 -0600, Omelet wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> That one is a color variation of the gray I think.
>>>>>
>>>>> red squrrels in spain are black!
>>>>
>>>> Black squirrels are now appearing in numbers in Jersey which
>>>> has both reds and greys. I saw them in my son's garden in
>>>> November and it was the first time I'd spotted them there. He says
>>>> they're seeing more and more of them.
>>>
>>> Do you think they will decimate more of the reds?
>>>
>>> Alan
>
>> I don't think it's a question of that, Alan. There are no
>> greys in Jersey, so these seem to be a mutation of the reds.
>
> How are you so sure that there are no grey tree-rats in Jersey?
>
Because its an island and they never managed to swim over there?

Don Gray wrote:
> In message JL wrote:
>
>>Dora wrote:
>>
>>>I thought Benny Hill was coarse. Maybe that's what the producers
>>>thought Americans would want to see. British humour is usually more
>>>subtle and dry.
>>
>
>>Perhaps that's the ideal in some aristocratic fantasy world, but iirc,
>>the term "bawdy" and "ribald" are hallmarks of Brit humor.
>
>
> Absolutely. The great bard had much fun with them. But he was also the
> master of intriguing subtlety of phrase and humour, sometimes light
> and frivolous and othertimes dark and foreboding.
>
>
>>About the only defining feature of Brits that i can think of is their
>>tendency to think they are unique in the world, when in reality the are
>>as capable of the coarse and lascivious as they are the noble and
>>edifying. Just like every other group of people. Not a thing unique
>>about them.
>
>
> Oh dear Joseph. I used to have the very same view about Americans ie,
> loud-mouthed and arrogant. I got this in my youth from holidays around
> Europe. Then I grew up. I met an American school teacher who was the a
> real gentleman. He was friendly, courteous and fun to be with. After
> he left we corresponded for the next 15 yers. His name was Don White
> and mine Don Gray. We used to laugh about that. You haven't had the
> company of enough real Englishmen to make a proper assessment.

Not as much as your own, but i don't have to live every where to
understand anywhere.

And if i understand you correctly your saying the same thing i am,
people are more similar than different, styles vary but fundamentals remain.

>
>
>>And as for stereotypes i would rather hang out with Benny Hill than
>>Hyacinth Bucket (pronounced Bouquet
>
>
> I agree with you here. Have you ever come across "Big Yin" aka Billy
> Connolly, an ex Glasgow ship builder. Now he is lavatorial but has
> people rolling in the aisles ;-)) Most stiff-necked people would say
> he's plain vulgar. It takes all tastes.
>

If we go to the etymology of the word "vulgar" we can add the word
virtue to it

At least in its original sense of manly or even "macho."

vir-tu.

Not that women don't have a sense of humor (?) but the entertainment
(and "Art") industry is male dominated, especially in its "behind the
camera" or other organizational aspects.

But as i think most cultures are more similar than different, so too i
think men and women are more similar than different. Women have just,
historically, had less freedom of expression than males.

One could argue that the women of the world are just finding their voice
while the men are losing theirs?

But will they say the same thing?

Or will it be a mere variation on a theme?

Assuming the modern world don't collapse in economic chaos triggering
global catastrophe.

Can GB feed itself? does it HAVE to import food to feed its masses?
--

Mr. Joseph Paul Littleshoes Esq.

Domine, dirige nos.

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Omelet wrote:
> In article >,
> Janet > wrote:
>
>
>>In article >, says...
>>#
>>
>>>So what do you want?
>>
>> Well, it would be nice if you, as an American, could grasp the major
>>difference between real life, and the entertainment industry. Of course
>>some of your Presidents and politicians have set you a very bad example,
>>but that's no excuse.
>>
>> Janet
>
>
> Unfortunately in America, a LOT of our common "sit-com" shows reflect
> life here all too well. Clueless mates and smart arsed children with no
> manners. I often think that the television shows influence them all too
> much....
>
> Is it any wonder that we expect that British sit-coms do the same?

Or better?

In any way?

--

Mr. Joseph Paul Littleshoes Esq.

Domine, dirige nos.

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"Dora" > wrote in message
...
> Omelet wrote:
>> In article >, JL > wrote:
>>
>>> Mike.. . . . wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 14:11:05 -0600, Omelet wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> embarrasing
>>>>>
>>>>> Why? 'cause it reflects reality? <g>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> God no! Only the US could think that
>>>
>>> *chcukle* there's some logic for you.
>>>
>>> A Brit t.v. show would only be seen as a reflection of Brit culture
>>> by non Brits?
>>
>> Which is likely what makes it embarrassing! <eg>
>
> I thought Benny Hill was coarse. Maybe that's what the producers thought
> Americans would want to see. British humour is usually more subtle and
> dry.

Oh, please do not judge us by Benny Hill. I hated his humour
Tina

"Mike.. . . ." > wrote in message
...
> Following up to Mike.. . . .
>
>>> Ever see the Peter Sellers movie "The Magic Christian"?
>>
>> fraid not.
>
> I just watched a scene on Youtube, if it was typical of the film, its as
> typical of british life as an alaskan bear hunter is of the US.
> --
> Mike... . . . .

I loathe Benny Hill's humour. It makes me cringe.
Tina

>
>
>
>
>
>
>

"Ophelia" > wrote in message

>they do taste similar to rabbit.

I though they would.

I'd have no problem eating one.

Tina

On 13/12/2010 12:58, Janet wrote:
> In >,
> says...
>>
>> In >, Don >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You haven't had the
>>> company of enough real Englishmen to make a proper assessment.
>>
>> We've had the pleasure of enjoying their company on Usenet. :-)
>> One of the gents on the body building lists is a member of the house of
>> lords. He's been the most fun!
>
> LOL. I've seen gullible Americans fall for that one before on usenet;
> some poster or more accurately imposter pretending to be a member of the
> House of Lords.
>
> Which one is the bodybuilder?
>
> Janet

;-)

In message >, Mike.. . . .
> writes
>
>I loved it but the point was its about the real england, an office in
>Slough where people do embarrasing things, not some foggy London town where
>every other person is a Lord.

You mean 'The Office'? it was funny to watch once and several talented
young actors emerged from it to do greater things but I can't stand the
man who played the manager. His character in real life seems to be very
similar to the person he was playing. I can watch Monty Python and
Fawlty Towers again and again. (but expect I would be bored with them
if I did).
--
June Hughes

In message >, Don Gray >
writes
>In message JL > wrote:
>> Don Gray wrote:
>>> In message JL wrote:
>>
>>>>About the only defining feature of Brits that i can think of is their
>>>>tendency to think they are unique in the world
>>>
>>> Oh dear Joseph. I used to have the very same view about Americans ie,
>>> loud-mouthed and arrogant.You haven't had the company of enough real
>>> Englishmen to make a proper assessment.
>
>> Not as much as your own, but i don't have to live every where to
>> understand anywhere.
>
>I think that to make an objective assessment you have to firsthand
>information. Books, films, newspapers can't cut it.
>
>> And if i understand you correctly your saying the same thing i am,
>> people are more similar than different, styles vary but fundamentals remain.
>
>> Assuming the modern world don't collapse in economic chaos triggering
>> global catastrophe.
>
>If you remember American toxic bank debt triggered the situation. The
>housing market was overloaded. The public had been cheated. We bought
>into it. We were as bad. We were led by greedy banks and because of
>weak government have still not grasped the nettle and put those
>bankers into court.
>
>> Can GB feed itself? does it HAVE to import food to feed its masses?
>
>That's a little arrogant don't you think. US industries are being
>taken over by foreigners. Cheap Chinese commodities are flooding your
>markets. You are having the same industrial problems as many western
>nations.
You are a very patient man, Don.
--
June Hughes

In message JL > wrote:
> Don Gray wrote:
>> In message JL wrote:
>
>>>About the only defining feature of Brits that i can think of is their
>>>tendency to think they are unique in the world
>>
>> Oh dear Joseph. I used to have the very same view about Americans ie,
>> loud-mouthed and arrogant.You haven't had the company of enough real
>> Englishmen to make a proper assessment.

> Not as much as your own, but i don't have to live every where to
> understand anywhere.

I think that to make an objective assessment you have to firsthand
information. Books, films, newspapers can't cut it.

> And if i understand you correctly your saying the same thing i am,
> people are more similar than different, styles vary but fundamentals remain.

> Assuming the modern world don't collapse in economic chaos triggering
> global catastrophe.

If you remember American toxic bank debt triggered the situation. The
housing market was overloaded. The public had been cheated. We bought
into it. We were as bad. We were led by greedy banks and because of
weak government have still not grasped the nettle and put those
bankers into court.

> Can GB feed itself? does it HAVE to import food to feed its masses?

That's a little arrogant don't you think. US industries are being
taken over by foreigners. Cheap Chinese commodities are flooding your
markets. You are having the same industrial problems as many western
nations.
--
Don

In message >, Mike.. . . .
> writes
>Following up to June Hughes
>
>> You mean 'The Office'? it was funny to watch once and several talented
>> young actors emerged from it to do greater things but I can't stand the
>> man who played the manager. His character in real life seems to be very
>> similar to the person he was playing.
>
>It does, but the programme worked.

Yes, of course it did. I just didn't like 'thingy'.
--
June Hughes

Don Gray wrote:
> In message JL > wrote:
>
>>Don Gray wrote:
>>
>>>In message JL wrote:
>>
>
>>Can GB feed itself? does it HAVE to import food to feed its masses?
>
>
> That's a little arrogant don't you think.

Given the general tenor of this group im surprised at the accusation of
arrogance from others.

> US industries are being
> taken over by foreigners. Cheap Chinese commodities are flooding your
> markets. You are having the same industrial problems as many western
> nations.

That was not my question. I tried googling some statistics on food
importation to GB but was confused by their abundance.
--

Mr. Joseph Paul Littleshoes Esq.

Domine, dirige nos.

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"Christina Websell" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Doug Weller" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 14:18:22 -0800 (PST), in rec.food.cooking, Roy wrote:
>>
>>>On Dec 7, 12:51 pm, Doug Weller >
>>>wrote:
>>>> I've just ordered some squirrel (grey) and was wondering if anyone had
>>>> any
>>>> good ideas how to cook it.
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Doug
>
> I haven't managed to catch one. I see no reason why it's different from
> eating rabbits. I understand the meat is similar but less.
> I'd definitely try it and would be glad to eat them
> They are a nuisance. They bark the trees and break into my birdboxes to
> eat the eggs and babies.
> Eat them.

Where are you?

I just ask because I have a trap you could use if you are not too far from
Windsor.

Alan


>
>
>
>

In message June Hughes > wrote:
> In message , Don Gray > writes
>>In message JL > wrote:
>>> Don Gray wrote:
>>>> Oh dear Joseph. I used to have the very same view about Americans ie,
>>>> loud-mouthed and arrogant.You haven't had the company of enough real
>>>> Englishmen to make a proper assessment.
>>
>>> Not as much as your own, but i don't have to live every where to
>>> understand anywhere.
>>
>>I think that to make an objective assessment you have to firsthand
>>information. Books, films, newspapers can't cut it.
>>
>>> And if i understand you correctly your saying the same thing i am,
>>> people are more similar than different, styles vary but fundamentals
>>> remain.
>>
>>> Assuming the modern world don't collapse in economic chaos triggering
>>> global catastrophe.
>>
>>If you remember American toxic bank debt triggered the situation. The
>>housing market was overloaded. The public had been cheated. We bought
>>into it. We were as bad. We were led by greedy banks and because of
>>weak government have still not grasped the nettle and put those
>>bankers into court.
>>
>>> Can GB feed itself? does it HAVE to import food to feed its masses?
>>
>>That's a little arrogant don't you think. US industries are being
>>taken over by foreigners. Cheap Chinese commodities are flooding your
>>markets. You are having the same industrial problems as many western
>>nations.
> You are a very patient man, Don.

And you are a very observant lady, June ;-))
--
Don

Don Gray wrote:
> In message JL > wrote:
>
>>Don Gray wrote:
>>
>>>In message JL > wrote:
>>>
>>>>Don Gray wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Can GB feed itself? does it HAVE to import food to feed its masses?
>>>
>>>
>>>That's a little arrogant don't you think.
>>
>
>>Given the general tenor of this group im surprised at the accusation of
>>arrogance from others.
>
>
>>>US industries are being taken over by foreigners. Cheap Chinese
>>>commodities are flooding your markets. You are having the same
>>>industrial problems as many western nations.
>>
>
>>That was not my question. I tried googling some statistics on food
>>importation to GB but was confused by their abundance.
>
>
> Then perhaps you might start to look at the questions posed by others.
>
> Try to google the number of firms closing down and workers losing
> their jobs because of the importation of cheap commodities from
> American firms set up in the 3rd World and independent firms in China.
> America is not impervious to global markets and recessions.

Maybe i should post a recipe for red herring

I asked a simple question, had you asked me the same question about the
USA i would have answered in the affirmative.

IF GB is importing "cheap commodities" that should be taken up with the
powers that be in GB and not blame others for actions the Brits take.

And since you seem to be under a misapprehension i did not suggest,
quite the contrary actually, that the USA is in any way impervious to
the global markets and recessions.

Im not interested in placing any theoretical blame for anything, i was
merely asking for information regarding the sustainability of present
population levels in GB.

Ever read Thomas Malthus?

"a front page Wall Street Journal article in March 2008 pointed out various
limited resources which may soon limit human population growth because of
a widespread belief in the importance of prosperity for every individual
and the rising consumption trends of large developing nations such as
China and India."

--

Mr. Joseph Paul Littleshoes Esq.

Domine, dirige nos.

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In message JL > wrote:
> Don Gray wrote:
>> In message JL > wrote:
>>>Don Gray wrote:
>>>
>>>Can GB feed itself? does it HAVE to import food to feed its masses?
>>
>>
>> That's a little arrogant don't you think.

> Given the general tenor of this group im surprised at the accusation of
> arrogance from others.

>> US industries are being taken over by foreigners. Cheap Chinese
>> commodities are flooding your markets. You are having the same
>> industrial problems as many western nations.

> That was not my question. I tried googling some statistics on food
> importation to GB but was confused by their abundance.

Then perhaps you might start to look at the questions posed by others.

Try to google the number of firms closing down and workers losing
their jobs because of the importation of cheap commodities from
American firms set up in the 3rd World and independent firms in China.
America is not impervious to global markets and recessions.
--
Don

Omelet wrote:
> JL wrote:
>
>
>>One could argue that the women of the world are just finding their voice
>>while the men are losing theirs?
>>
>>But will they say the same thing?
>
>
> Depends on the time line.
> Once upon a time, SOME societies were matriarchal.

Some were and are matrilineal but out side of myth and legend i cant
think of a matriarchal society.
--
Mr. JL Esq.

Janet wrote:

> In article >, says...
>
>
>>IF GB is importing "cheap commodities" that should be taken up with
>
> the
>
>>powers that be in GB and not blame others for actions the Brits take.
>
>
> US monster companies like Kraft take over British brand name
> producers (like Cadbury), promising to keep British factories open, then
> as soon as the deal is signed, renege, sell the factories and move
> production to another country.
>
> Janet

So? are you going to whine about the evil US or do something about your
own country allowing it to happen?
--
Mr. J(learning MandarinL Esq.

On Dec 14, 6:16*pm, Joseph Littleshoes > wrote:
> Omelet wrote:
> > *JL *wrote:
>
> >>One could argue that the women of the world are just finding their voice
> >>while the men are losing theirs?
>
> >>But will they say the same thing?
>
> > Depends on the time line.
> > Once upon a time, SOME societies were matriarchal.
>
> Some were and are matrilineal but out side of myth and legend i cant
> think of a matriarchal society.

I hope that civilizations will become more egalitarian in many ways,
and in the developed world, most gender roles become increasingly
moribund. In my lifetime I've seen the happiness of men increase as
women have become more coequal, and that includes my own marriage. I
hate patriarchy as much as I hate racism, and even more than I hate
class inequality. Did anyone else hear David and Julie Nixon
Eisenhower on NPR today?
http://thedianerehmshow.org/shows/20...ing-home-glory

> --
> Mr. JL Esq.

--Bryan

Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
> Janet wrote:
>
>> US monster companies like Kraft take over British brand name
>> producers (like Cadbury), promising to keep British factories open, then
>> as soon as the deal is signed, renege, sell the factories and move
>> production to another country.
>
> So? are you going to whine about the evil US or do something about your
> own country allowing it to happen?

Use CAMRA as your model. It was a movement that pushed against cheap
beers to preserve the market for Real Ale. It was so successful the
founder ran away with a lot of money and the movement recovered anyways.

"Mike.. . . ." > wrote in message
. ..
> Following up to Christina Websell
>
>> I loathe Benny Hill's humour. It makes me cringe.
>
> "cringe" sums it up for most people.
> --
Gok Wan & Harry Hill too. They give me the creeps.
Tina

On 10/12/2010 3:33 PM, Doug Freyburger wrote:
> Sacha wrote:
>>
>> Black squirrels are now appearing in numbers in Jersey which has both
>> reds and greys. I saw them in my son's garden in November and it was
>> the first time I'd spotted them there. He says they're seeing more and
>> more of them.
>
> They are here in Chicago metro as well. They look to me like grey
> squirrels that happened to inherit different colored fur.


They are all variations of the Easdtern Gray squirrel. For a long time,
most of the squirrels here in the Niagara peninsula were gray, while
those in Toronto tended to be black. The local squirrels seem to have
undergone drastic changes lately. Most of them are grey, but there are
more and more that are reddish. There is an interesting population of
squirrels hanging out in a cemetery in Niagara Falls.Almsot every one of
them is a different colour. One is black with a black and white tail.
The first time I saw it I thought that it was a skunk. Another is light
brown with a blond tail.

On 9/9/2011 12:38 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 10/12/2010 3:33 PM, Doug Freyburger wrote:
>> Sacha wrote:
>>>
>>> Black squirrels are now appearing in numbers in Jersey which has both
>>> reds and greys. I saw them in my son's garden in November and it was
>>> the first time I'd spotted them there. He says they're seeing more and
>>> more of them.
>>
>> They are here in Chicago metro as well. They look to me like grey
>> squirrels that happened to inherit different colored fur.
>
>
> They are all variations of the Easdtern Gray squirrel. For a long time,
> most of the squirrels here in the Niagara peninsula were gray, while
> those in Toronto tended to be black. The local squirrels seem to have
> undergone drastic changes lately. Most of them are grey, but there are
> more and more that are reddish. There is an interesting population of
> squirrels hanging out in a cemetery in Niagara Falls.Almsot every one of
> them is a different colour. One is black with a black and white tail.
> The first time I saw it I thought that it was a skunk. Another is light
> brown with a blond tail.

In Olney, Illinois, there is a population of white squirrels. In Olney,
I believe it is even a city law/ordinance that gives the white squirrels
the right-of-way in roadways and drivers are required to stop For
those who might be interested in more information about the white
squirrels, check here ---->

http://www.ci.olney.il.us/Visitors/WhiteSquirrel.htm

Sky

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Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice!!

Dave Smith wrote:
> Doug Freyburger wrote:
>> Sacha wrote:
>>>
>>> Black squirrels are now appearing in numbers in Jersey which has both
>>> reds and greys. I saw them in my son's garden in November and it was
>>> the first time I'd spotted them there. He says they're seeing more and
>>> more of them.
>
>> They are here in Chicago metro as well. They look to me like grey
>> squirrels that happened to inherit different colored fur.
>
> They are all variations of the Easdtern Gray squirrel. For a long time,
> most of the squirrels here in the Niagara peninsula were gray, while
> those in Toronto tended to be black.

I grew up near Buffalo on the other side of the Niagara River. We had
mostly grey squirrels that were all gray and a few red squirrels that
were a different species. Over the years there were fewer and fewer red
squirrels.

> The local squirrels seem to have
> undergone drastic changes lately. Most of them are grey, but there are
> more and more that are reddish.

On the US side so far I have not seen any black ones yet while visiting
my family in Buffalo.

> There is an interesting population of
> squirrels hanging out in a cemetery in Niagara Falls.Almsot every one of
> them is a different colour. One is black with a black and white tail.
> The first time I saw it I thought that it was a skunk. Another is light
> brown with a blond tail.

Cool.

On 9/9/2011 1:38 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> They are all variations of the Easdtern Gray squirrel. For a long time,
> most of the squirrels here in the Niagara peninsula were gray, while
> those in Toronto tended to be black. The local squirrels seem to have
> undergone drastic changes lately. Most of them are grey, but there are
> more and more that are reddish. There is an interesting population of
> squirrels hanging out in a cemetery in Niagara Falls.Almsot every one of
> them is a different colour. One is black with a black and white tail.
> The first time I saw it I thought that it was a skunk. Another is light
> brown with a blond tail.

In MD we've had solid black squirrels for many years, at least 15-20. I
have started noticing mixed colors like gray/red or black/red lately
though. I haven't seen any white or blond.

On Wednesday, December 8, 2010 9:30:09 AM UTC-6, Doug Weller wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 17:51:27 -0600, in rec.food.cooking, Sqwertz wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 13:44:58 -0800 (PST), projectile vomit chick
> >wrote:
> >
> >> On Dec 7, 3:02*pm, "Ophelia" > wrote:
> >>> "Chemo the Clown" > wrote in ...
> >>>
> >>>> On Dec 7, 11:51 am, Doug Weller >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> I've just ordered some squirrel (grey) and was wondering if anyone had
> >>>>> any
> >>>>> good ideas how to cook it.
> >>>
> >>>> Use Google fer cryin' out loud!!
> >>>
> >>> Why? * Is this a cooking group or not???
> >>
> >> It thinks that it is being funny. Quite the opposite.
> >
> >Why would you even order squirrel if you didn't have a known use
> >for it?
> >
> >While I used to be a "shop and ask later" when it came to Asian
> >ingredients, I didn't "pre-order" anything. And certainly not
> >anything like squirrel without having a purpose in mind beforehand.
>
> I don't understand this attitude. I've heard squirrel is good, so I've
> ordered some. I by other meat - from chicken to duck to venison, without
> having a specific recipe in mind.

Squirrels that feed mostly on hickories and pecans are much better than ones that feed on acorns.
>
> Doug

--Bryan

On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 14:27:53 -0700 (PDT), Bryan
> wrote:

> Squirrels that feed mostly on hickories and pecans are much better than ones that feed on acorns.

Better behaved?

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Saturday, September 10, 2011 5:00:19 PM UTC-5, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 14:27:53 -0700 (PDT), Bryan
>
> wrote:
>
> > Squirrels that feed mostly on hickories and pecans are much better than ones that feed on acorns.
>
> Better behaved?
>
Better tasting. Acorns make both squirrels and deer taste gamy.

--Bryan

Don't remember where this came from - and I haven't tried it but here's a
rec for squirrel

* Dredge your cut up squirrel in seasoned flour and brown
lightly.
* In a large pot (iron, if possible) put a layer of thickly
sliced onions, followed by a layer of thickly sliced potatoes,
followed by a layer of the lightly browned squirrel. Salt and
pepper to taste.
* Continue to add layers of onion, potatoes and squirrel
(seasoning as you go) until you run out of squirrel.
* Place on stove at lowest heat, add no water, cover
tightly and let simmer until you can suck that squirrel meat right off
of the bones.

Letus know how it comes out please

Jan

Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass.
It's about learning to dance in the rain.