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So much for "Satisfaction Guaranteed or Your Money Back".
Time to avoid all Sara Lee products and their sub-brands.

"Thank you for your business!". You mean, "Thank you for letting
us sucker you out of your money!". Assholes.

-sw

Dear Sam,

Thank you for contacting Sara Lee. It is always important to hear
from our consumers, and we appreciate your comments regarding the
Ball Park Franks.

Sara Lee is committed to providing quality products and service to
our consumers. Please be assured that all comments are helpful in
achieving our goal of customer satisfaction. It is only by meeting
the needs of the consumers like you that we can continue to be
successful. Your feedback will be shared with our marketing and
quality department.

Thank you for your business! Should you have any comments or
questions in the future, please contact us via our website at
www.saralee.com or by calling our toll-free number, 1-800-323-7117.
Our representatives are available Monday-Friday between the hours
of 7am and 6pm CST.

Sincerely,

Pilar
Sara Lee Consumer Affairs Representative
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> So much for "Satisfaction Guaranteed or Your Money Back".
> Time to avoid all Sara Lee products and their sub-brands.
>

I already do so, except when Jimmy Dean hot pork sausage is on sale
really cheap.
>
> -sw


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On 12/15/2010 6:37 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> So much for "Satisfaction Guaranteed or Your Money Back".
> Time to avoid all Sara Lee products and their sub-brands.
>
> "Thank you for your business!". You mean, "Thank you for letting
> us sucker you out of your money!". Assholes.
>
> -sw
>
> Dear Sam,
>
> Thank you for contacting Sara Lee. It is always important to hear
> from our consumers, and we appreciate your comments regarding the
> Ball Park Franks.
>
> Sara Lee is committed to providing quality products and service to
> our consumers. Please be assured that all comments are helpful in
> achieving our goal of customer satisfaction. It is only by meeting
> the needs of the consumers like you that we can continue to be
> successful. Your feedback will be shared with our marketing and
> quality department.
>
> Thank you for your business! Should you have any comments or
> questions in the future, please contact us via our website at
> www.saralee.com or by calling our toll-free number, 1-800-323-7117.
> Our representatives are available Monday-Friday between the hours
> of 7am and 6pm CST.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Pilar
> Sara Lee Consumer Affairs Representative



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On Dec 15, 3:37*pm, Sqwertz > wrote:
> So much for "Satisfaction Guaranteed or Your Money Back".
> Time to avoid all Sara Lee products and their sub-brands.
>
> "Thank you for your business!". *You mean, "Thank you for letting
> us sucker you out of your money!". *Assholes.
>
> -sw
>
> Dear Sam,
>
> Thank you for contacting Sara Lee. It is always important to hear
> from our consumers, and we appreciate your comments regarding the
> Ball Park Franks.
>
> Sara Lee is committed to providing quality products and service to
> our consumers. Please be assured that all comments are helpful in
> achieving our goal of customer satisfaction. It is only by meeting
> the needs of the consumers like you that we can continue to be
> successful. Your feedback will be shared with our marketing and
> quality department.
>
> Thank you for your business! Should you have any comments or
> questions in the future, please contact us via our website atwww.saralee.comor by calling our toll-free number, 1-800-323-7117.
> Our representatives are available Monday-Friday between the hours
> of 7am and 6pm CST. *
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Pilar
> Sara Lee Consumer Affairs Representative


Pilar???? Pilar who?
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On Dec 15, 7:23*pm, Chemo the Clown > wrote:
> On Dec 15, 3:37*pm, Sqwertz > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > So much for "Satisfaction Guaranteed or Your Money Back".
> > Time to avoid all Sara Lee products and their sub-brands.

>
> > "Thank you for your business!". *You mean, "Thank you for letting
> > us sucker you out of your money!". *Assholes.

>
> > -sw

>
> > Dear Sam,

>
> > Thank you for contacting Sara Lee. It is always important to hear
> > from our consumers, and we appreciate your comments regarding the
> > Ball Park Franks.

>
> > Sara Lee is committed to providing quality products and service to
> > our consumers. Please be assured that all comments are helpful in
> > achieving our goal of customer satisfaction. It is only by meeting
> > the needs of the consumers like you that we can continue to be
> > successful. Your feedback will be shared with our marketing and
> > quality department.

>
> > Thank you for your business! Should you have any comments or
> > questions in the future, please contact us via our website atwww.saralee.comorby calling our toll-free number,1-800-323-7117begin_of_the_skype_highlighting**************1-800-323-7117******end_of_the_skype_highlighting.
> > Our representatives are available Monday-Friday between the hours
> > of 7am and 6pm CST. *

>
> > Sincerely,

>
> > Pilar
> > Sara Lee Consumer Affairs Representative

>
> Pilar???? Pilar who?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Perhaps 'Pilar' on a first name only basis, means that she really,
really sincerely cares?



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On Dec 15, 4:52*pm, BlueBrooke > wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 17:37:22 -0600, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
> >So much for "Satisfaction Guaranteed or Your Money Back".
> >Time to avoid all Sara Lee products and their sub-brands.

>
> If your previous post was your complaint letter, then the response is
> understandable. *You said a lot, but you didn't ask for anything. *A
> good complaint letter includes the expected resolution. *


You forget...it was Sqwerty complaining.
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"ravenlynne" > wrote in message
...
| On 12/15/2010 6:37 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
| > So much for "Satisfaction Guaranteed or Your Money Back".
| > Time to avoid all Sara Lee products and their sub-brands.
| >
| > "Thank you for your business!". You mean, "Thank you for letting
| > us sucker you out of your money!". Assholes.
| >
| > -sw
| --
| Currently reading: Finals over! Yay for an A in organic chem and a B in
| Human Anatomy and Physiology. Now what to read?

A Debt to Pleasure, by John Lanchester.

<http://tinyurl.com/2w6ne68>
One of the most tightly written, food-oriented, mysterious,
sexy romps through France that you will ever experience.
I envy anyone who has not yet read it. Amazing character
development and a totally astonishing ending.

pavane



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Sqwertz wrote:
> So much for "Satisfaction Guaranteed or Your Money Back".
> Time to avoid all Sara Lee products and their sub-brands.
>
> "Thank you for your business!". You mean, "Thank you for letting
> us sucker you out of your money!". Assholes.
>
> -sw
>
> Dear Sam,
>
> Thank you for contacting Sara Lee. It is always important to hear
> from our consumers, and we appreciate your comments regarding the
> Ball Park Franks.
>
> Sara Lee is committed to providing quality products and service to
> our consumers. Please be assured that all comments are helpful in
> achieving our goal of customer satisfaction. It is only by meeting
> the needs of the consumers like you that we can continue to be
> successful. Your feedback will be shared with our marketing and
> quality department.
>
> Thank you for your business! Should you have any comments or
> questions in the future, please contact us via our website at
> www.saralee.com or by calling our toll-free number, 1-800-323-7117.
> Our representatives are available Monday-Friday between the hours
> of 7am and 6pm CST.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Pilar
> Sara Lee Consumer Affairs Representative


I have to laugh. I have recently gotten replies about products
that were non-sequiturs! That is, if they bother to reply at all.

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"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
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> So much for "Satisfaction Guaranteed or Your Money Back".
> Time to avoid all Sara Lee products and their sub-brands.
>
> "Thank you for your business!". You mean, "Thank you for letting
> us sucker you out of your money!". Assholes.
>
> -sw


Generally "satisfaction guaranteed" refers to a purchase not just an
opinion. Had you furnished a receipt as well as a UPC code you probably
would have received a refund & a BS letter.

Dimitri

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On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 18:52:53 -0600, BlueBrooke wrote:

> On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 17:37:22 -0600, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>>So much for "Satisfaction Guaranteed or Your Money Back".
>>Time to avoid all Sara Lee products and their sub-brands.

>
> If your previous post was your complaint letter, then the response is
> understandable. You said a lot, but you didn't ask for anything. A
> good complaint letter includes the expected resolution.


I understand that. But I checked the package after I wrote the
above and apparently that phrase has disappeared from their
labeling.

My dis-satisfaction was clearly evident and should have been acted
upon had they actually still had that guarantee. They used to.
They know they suck and don't care.

Some coupons may still appear in the mail. But I kinda doubt it.
Maybe I was too hard on them. Maybe I went too far calling their
products dog food.

Nah. It was worth it if a few people read it other than just
"Pilar" (I've never heard that name).

-sw


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> Generally "satisfaction guaranteed" refers to a purchase not just an
> opinion. Had you furnished a receipt as well as a UPC code you probably
> would have received a refund & a BS letter.


The UPC code (still here on my note pad: 54500 10035) and also the
store where it was bought, date, time, date code from the package,
my fake name and real address were all entered as part of the form
that I filled out on their web page.

But nowhere did it ask for a price paid. Which was $1 (on sale). I
don't even glance at them if they're over $1. They're over $2
regularly. They go on sale for $1 pretty often but I usually don't
buy them.

-sw
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Steve wrote about Ball Park franks:

> But nowhere did it ask for a price paid. Which was $1 (on sale). I
> don't even glance at them if they're over $1. They're over $2
> regularly. They go on sale for $1 pretty often but I usually don't
> buy them.


The hordes who fawn over Michael Jordan will still buy them, regardless of
quality. Wouldn't surprise me if Pussy put a mushroom cap on it before
wrapping his man-pleaser around it.

Bob



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On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 22:49:54 -0800, Bob Terwilliger wrote:

> The hordes who fawn over Michael Jordan will still buy them, regardless of
> quality. Wouldn't surprise me if Pussy put a mushroom cap on it before
> wrapping his man-pleaser around it.


That reminds me of the sausage scene in "Beerfest" (Cloris
Leachman).

-sw
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On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 17:37:22 -0600 in rec.food.cooking, Sqwertz
> wrote,

>Pilar
>Sara Lee Consumer Affairs Representative


Like talking to a post.

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On Dec 15, 6:37*pm, Sqwertz > wrote:
> So much for "Satisfaction Guaranteed or Your Money Back".
> Time to avoid all Sara Lee products and their sub-brands.
>
> "Thank you for your business!". *You mean, "Thank you for letting
> us sucker you out of your money!". *Assholes.
>
> -sw
>
> Dear Sam,
>
> Thank you for contacting Sara Lee. It is always important to hear
> from our consumers, and we appreciate your comments regarding the
> Ball Park Franks.
>
> Sara Lee is committed to providing quality products and service to
> our consumers. Please be assured that all comments are helpful in
> achieving our goal of customer satisfaction. It is only by meeting
> the needs of the consumers like you that we can continue to be
> successful. Your feedback will be shared with our marketing and
> quality department.
>
> Thank you for your business! Should you have any comments or
> questions in the future, please contact us via our website atwww.saralee.comor by calling our toll-free number, 1-800-323-7117.
> Our representatives are available Monday-Friday between the hours
> of 7am and 6pm CST. *
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Pilar
> Sara Lee Consumer Affairs Representative


Why did they waste the postage?


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Kalmia wrote:
> On Dec 15, 6:37 pm, Sqwertz > wrote:
>> So much for "Satisfaction Guaranteed or Your Money Back".
>> Time to avoid all Sara Lee products and their sub-brands.
>>
>> "Thank you for your business!". You mean, "Thank you for letting
>> us sucker you out of your money!". Assholes.
>>
>> -sw
>>
>> Dear Sam,
>>
>> Thank you for contacting Sara Lee. It is always important to hear
>> from our consumers, and we appreciate your comments regarding the
>> Ball Park Franks.
>>
>> Sara Lee is committed to providing quality products and service to
>> our consumers. Please be assured that all comments are helpful in
>> achieving our goal of customer satisfaction. It is only by meeting
>> the needs of the consumers like you that we can continue to be
>> successful. Your feedback will be shared with our marketing and
>> quality department.
>>
>> Thank you for your business! Should you have any comments or
>> questions in the future, please contact us via our website atwww.saralee.comor by calling our toll-free number, 1-800-323-7117.
>> Our representatives are available Monday-Friday between the hours
>> of 7am and 6pm CST.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Pilar
>> Sara Lee Consumer Affairs Representative

>
> Why did they waste the postage?



To show that they cared.

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On Dec 15, 10:35*pm, "Dimitri" > wrote:
> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > So much for "Satisfaction Guaranteed or Your Money Back".
> > Time to avoid all Sara Lee products and their sub-brands.

>
> > "Thank you for your business!". *You mean, "Thank you for letting
> > us sucker you out of your money!". *Assholes.

>
> > -sw

>
> Generally "satisfaction guaranteed" refers to a purchase not just an
> opinion. *Had you furnished a receipt as well as a UPC code you probably
> would have received a refund & a BS letter.
>
> Dimitri


....or at least, coupons. When I complain about Stouffer's microwave
directions (too long a cooking time), or Del Monte Fruit Naturals
(woody grapefruit), I get coupons AND an apology.

N.
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> On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 00:22:33 -0600, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
> >Some coupons may still appear in the mail. *But I kinda doubt it.
> >Maybe I was too hard on them. *Maybe I went too far calling their
> >products dog food.

>
> Now I'm really confused. *"Your products suck -- send me some coupons
> so I can buy some more."
>
> ???


I don't bother to complain about something that was a one-off, or that
I won't buy again - but if it's an intermittent quality problem (like
the Fruit Naturals), then I do want coupons. And I informed
Stouffer's about their too-long nuking time directions merely with the
idea of being helpful. This was the new rice/broccoli/chicken/cheese
entree - directions say 8 minutes for a 1100W microwave. That was at
least 2 minutes too long. The edges got all hard and crusty -
inedible.

N.
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Kalmia > wrote:
>
>> Dear Sam,
>>
>> Thank you for contacting Sara Lee. It is always important to hear
>> from our consumers, and we appreciate your comments regarding the
>> Ball Park Franks.
>>
>> Sara Lee is committed to providing quality products and service to
>> our consumers. Please be assured that all comments are helpful in
>> achieving our goal of customer satisfaction. It is only by meeting
>> the needs of the consumers like you that we can continue to be
>> successful. Your feedback will be shared with our marketing and
>> quality department.
>>
>> Thank you for your business! Should you have any comments or
>> questions in the future, _*please contact us via our website*_ at www.saralee.com or
>> by calling our toll-free number, 1-800-323-7117.
>> Our representatives are available Monday-Friday between the hours
>> of 7am and 6pm CST. *

>
>
>Why did they waste the postage?


Communique was via email, or more likely a toll-free no effort/no
brainer phone call... see above... then email reply was copied and
pasted here.
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In article >,
Sqwertz > wrote:


> "Pilar" (I've never heard that name).


I did a Google. 28 million hits:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilar

"Maria del Pilar (Mary of the Pillar), derived from the above, is a
common female name in Latin American countries. In Spain, it is usually
abbreviated to Pilar, and as such developed into a name in its own
right."

--
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Petaluma, California USA



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On Dec 16, 10:17*am, Dan Abel > wrote:
> In article >,
>
> *Sqwertz > wrote:
> > "Pilar" (I've never heard that name).

>
> I did a Google. *28 million hits:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilar
>
> "Maria del Pilar (Mary of the Pillar), derived from the above, is a
> common female name in Latin American countries. In Spain, it is usually
> abbreviated to Pilar, and as such developed into a name in its own
> right."


Mexican soap operas have women named Pilar. They play them at my
favorite taqueria. Prettier actresses than the average American soap.
>
> --
> Dan Abel


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On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 08:17:32 -0800, Dan Abel > wrote:

>In article >,
> Sqwertz > wrote:
>
>
>> "Pilar" (I've never heard that name).

>
>I did a Google. 28 million hits:
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilar
>
>"Maria del Pilar (Mary of the Pillar), derived from the above, is a
>common female name in Latin American countries. In Spain, it is usually
>abbreviated to Pilar, and as such developed into a name in its own
>right."


It was the name of the Mexican drug lord's sister in Weeds. [a
showtime series] Pronounced Pee'-lar in the show.

Jim
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On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 07:44:11 -0600, BlueBrooke
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> On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 00:22:33 -0600, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
> >Some coupons may still appear in the mail. But I kinda doubt it.
> >Maybe I was too hard on them. Maybe I went too far calling their
> >products dog food.

>
> Now I'm really confused. "Your products suck -- send me some coupons
> so I can buy some more."
>
> ???


His thought process denies logic, as usual.

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Never trust a dog to watch your food.
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On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 11:47:31 -0500, Jim Elbrecht >
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> Pronounced Pee'-lar in the show.


That's how to say it.

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On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 07:44:11 -0600, BlueBrooke wrote:

> On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 00:22:33 -0600, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>>Some coupons may still appear in the mail. But I kinda doubt it.
>>Maybe I was too hard on them. Maybe I went too far calling their
>>products dog food.

>
> Now I'm really confused. "Your products suck -- send me some coupons
> so I can buy some more."


That's how it usually works. Ghiradili chocolate did that when I
complained about their White "Chocolate" baking morsels: $5 off
any other Ghiradeli product. Mezetta did that when I complained
about changing their olive source for their Napa Valley Bistro
line, too (various coupons).

I never used any of those coupons (yet) but I still buy plenty of
Mezetta products (including the olives).

-sw

-sw


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On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 08:17:32 -0800, Dan Abel wrote:

> In article >,
> Sqwertz > wrote:
>
>> "Pilar" (I've never heard that name).

>
> I did a Google. 28 million hits:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilar
>
> "Maria del Pilar (Mary of the Pillar), derived from the above, is a
> common female name in Latin American countries. In Spain, it is usually
> abbreviated to Pilar, and as such developed into a name in its own
> right."


Oh, c'mon Dan. I'm not stewpid. Of those 28 million hits (I show
31.2 millions hits - you must not be doing it right) many of those
are *places* or alternative spellings of "pillar". And then of the
resulting subset, the vast majority of them are LAST names, not
first names.

ObFood: Another chicken Cesar salad on rye. I've got so much food
in the fridge that I'm in "Eat that which will expire first"-mode.

-sw
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On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 08:21:50 -0800 (PST), Bryan wrote:

> Mexican soap operas have women named Pilar. They play them at my
> favorite taqueria. Prettier actresses than the average American soap.


If you like Mexican women wearing gobs of make-up, overly flashy
clothes, and flaunting fake boobs, then yeah - maybe they're pretty
to you. I'll take "the girl next door" (and no, Gina, I'm not
really referring to you in particular - it's just a phrase).

-sw
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On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 02:05:45 -0800, David Harmon wrote:

> On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 17:37:22 -0600 in rec.food.cooking, Sqwertz
> > wrote,
>
>>Pilar
>>Sara Lee Consumer Affairs Representative

>
> Like talking to a post.


At least on Facebook I can talk to whole wall.

-sw
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On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 07:08:34 -0800 (PST), Kalmia wrote:

> On Dec 15, 6:37*pm, Sqwertz > wrote:

.....
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Pilar
>> Sara Lee Consumer Affairs Representative

>
> Why did they waste the postage?


This was just one click for them. I'm sure they have about 3 form
letters they send out. "Pilar" is probably an algorithm rather
than an actual person.

I used to be the email administrator for many different companies
and almost all of them have fictitious "people" working in their
customer service or support/service departments. Usually the names
would refer back to the type of service or product being provided,
or the nature of the email (complaint, sales, marketing,
employment, etc...).

For example, If I send a complaint or if I'm commenting about hot
dogs, it might be answered by "Pilar". But if I send a compliment,
it might be answered by "Gladys". It's very common practice.
Often I got to make up the names. You would put hidden meanings in
the names to make them easy to remember. For example: An upright
hot dog is a pillar.

Another common trick is to randomize fictitious responders names in
customer service, support/service departments to make it appear as
if you are a large, busy company or corporation with many employees
when in fact you have very few employees, if any.

-sw
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Dan Abel > wrote in news:dabel-11C5FC.08173116122010@c-61-
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>> "Pilar" (I've never heard that name).

>
> I did a Google. 28 million hits:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilar
>
> "Maria del Pilar (Mary of the Pillar), derived from the above, is a
> common female name in Latin American countries. In Spain, it is usually
> abbreviated to Pilar, and as such developed into a name in its own
> right."


Not to mention the Treaty of Pilar (1820) between three provinces of what
was to become Argentina, signed in the city of Pilar.

There was a woman called Pilar in Hemingway's For Whom the Bell Tolls.

When I lived in Spain, there were at least three women called Pilar in the
village where I lived.

It's a common Spanish name, with or without associations to saints or the
Virgin Mary.

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and carrying a cross.

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On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 18:52:53 -0600, BlueBrooke
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>On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 17:37:22 -0600, Sqwertz >
>wrote:


>>So much for "Satisfaction Guaranteed or Your Money Back".
>>Time to avoid all Sara Lee products and their sub-brands.

>
>If your previous post was your complaint letter, then the response is
>understandable. You said a lot, but you didn't ask for anything. A
>good complaint letter includes the expected resolution.


There's a clue in where she bucked the letter. No 1 is Marketing!
Quality comes second. Please note that "quality" usually means
"quality assurance/control". These people are tasked with ensuring
that the product actually made and shipped lives up to the "standards"
set up my somebody else in product development. QA/QC never decides
*what* to make, or from what they make it. Marketing and ProdDev have
simple critera for their decisions. 1: Will it sell? 2: Can we make it
cheaper than we can sell it for? 3: Will it help if we call it
something else (Like this crap cereal contains "Flavor nuggets" and
"Fruit gems", so your crumbcruncher will love it. Guaranteed or your
$4.98 back!"

Alex, a bit of a cynic on this topic. And who will not eat anything
called something like "Steak-Umms" or Vanilla Snorkles.
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On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 08:17:32 -0800, Dan Abel > wrote:

>In article >,
> Sqwertz > wrote:
>
>
>> "Pilar" (I've never heard that name).

>
>I did a Google. 28 million hits:
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilar
>
>"Maria del Pilar (Mary of the Pillar), derived from the above, is a
>common female name in Latin American countries. In Spain, it is usually
>abbreviated to Pilar, and as such developed into a name in its own
>right."


"For Whomm the Bell Tolls": the rebel leader's wife was named Pilar.
She was the woman who brought up the orphan they called "guapa"
(rabbit), who is the herione of the Hemigway tale.

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On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 09:33:12 -0800, sf wrote:

> On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 11:47:31 -0500, Jim Elbrecht >
> wrote:
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>> Pronounced Pee'-lar in the show.

>
> That's how to say it.


Mee too!
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> On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 09:33:12 -0800, sf wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 11:47:31 -0500, Jim Elbrecht >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Pronounced Pee'-lar in the show.

>>
>> That's how to say it.

>
> Mee too!


Actually, the accent is on the -lar as is customary in Spanish, so it's
more like pee-LAR than PEE-lar.

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On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 12:41:08 -0600, Chemiker
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> On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 08:17:32 -0800, Dan Abel > wrote:
>
> >In article >,
> > Sqwertz > wrote:
> >
> >
> >> "Pilar" (I've never heard that name).

> >
> >I did a Google. 28 million hits:
> >
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilar
> >
> >"Maria del Pilar (Mary of the Pillar), derived from the above, is a
> >common female name in Latin American countries. In Spain, it is usually
> >abbreviated to Pilar, and as such developed into a name in its own
> >right."

>
> "For Whomm the Bell Tolls": the rebel leader's wife was named Pilar.
> She was the woman who brought up the orphan they called "guapa"
> (rabbit), who is the herione of the Hemigway tale.
>

He has lived in Texas for *how long* but hasn't heard of the name
Pilar? Good god. Well, now we know how much of a hermit he is.


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On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 10:19:28 -0800 (PST), Nan wrote:

> I'm with you Marty. The JD hot is great for meatballs, and Sausage
> Gravy
> to go over biscuits. My first perferance was Jamestown, but it has
> dis-
> appeared here. Did JD buy it??
> Nanzi


I can still get Jamestown brand ham. It's owned by Smithfield.

-sw
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In article >,
Sqwertz > wrote:

> So much for "Satisfaction Guaranteed or Your Money Back".
> Time to avoid all Sara Lee products and their sub-brands.
>
> "Thank you for your business!". You mean, "Thank you for letting
> us sucker you out of your money!". Assholes.
>
> -sw
> Sincerely,
>
> Pilar
> Sara Lee Consumer Affairs Representative


I didn't read the other thread. Did you tell them you want your money
back?

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Holy Order of the Sacred Sisters of St. Pectina of Jella
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On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 12:57:33 -0600, BlueBrooke wrote:

> So I went back and read the original complaint to Sara Lee. I know
> I'm beating a dead horse here, but it was just a rant about how the
> good old days are long behind us, and the hot dogs are now awful after
> years of tinkering with the recipe, making it worse and worse. There's
> nothing in that original post that screams "send me coupons!" to me.
> :-) . Why anything other than a "gee, sorry you're unhappy" response
> was expected still escapes me.


If it wasn't obvious in my last response, let me be more explicit:
I really don't give a shit about what you think. I didn't ask nor
care if I got my money back, nor any coupons. If I did, they would
know. When I want to be "to the point" and blunt, I certainly can
be. And with RFC as my witnesses.

I don't think anybody agrees with you that a customer service droid
would not interpret that letter I sent as "Customer satisfaction
not achieved with latest revision of product". Get real, then go
be petty someplace else.

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On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 12:54:28 -0600, Michel Boucher wrote:

> AOL Poster > wrote in news:iedmu2$v1j$1
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>> On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 09:33:12 -0800, sf wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 11:47:31 -0500, Jim Elbrecht >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Pronounced Pee'-lar in the show.
>>>
>>> That's how to say it.

>>
>> Mee too!

>
> Actually, the accent is on the -lar as is customary in Spanish, so it's
> more like pee-LAR than PEE-lar.


<snork>

Q: How many RFC'ers does it take to pronounce "Pilar"?

A: Three to agree on the wrong pronunciation, one to point out the
correct way, and one more to point out the irony of the previous 4
posts.

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On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 11:00:33 -0800, sf wrote:

> He has lived in Texas for *how long* but hasn't heard of the name
> Pilar? Good god. Well, now we know how much of a hermit he is.


See? I didn't WANT my money back. I got much more mileage out of
that package of hot dogs by posting my complaint here in RFC.

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