We opted to keep an old white plastic Whirlpool dishwasher on our remodel
instead of getting a new one. This plastic POS cleans very well, and we
were cutting corners.

A few months ago, we bought some purple bushel basket woven shaped plastic
baskets that we used for popcorn. Wifey thought they needed washing. She
put them into the dishwasher with (lucky for her) clear glass dishes that
were full of drywall dust.

On opening the dishwasher, the inside was totally permanently streaked with
purple from the baskets. It looked like purple paint was perfectly slung
all over the inside of the dw.

It looks soooo cool!


We both love it.

It will be a nice story to tell, and we hope it lasts a while.

Steve

Steve B wrote:
> We opted to keep an old white plastic Whirlpool dishwasher on our remodel
> instead of getting a new one. This plastic POS cleans very well, and we
> were cutting corners.
>
> A few months ago, we bought some purple bushel basket woven shaped plastic
> baskets that we used for popcorn. Wifey thought they needed washing. She
> put them into the dishwasher with (lucky for her) clear glass dishes that
> were full of drywall dust.
>
> On opening the dishwasher, the inside was totally permanently streaked with
> purple from the baskets. It looked like purple paint was perfectly slung
> all over the inside of the dw.
>
> It looks soooo cool!
>
>
> We both love it.
>
> It will be a nice story to tell, and we hope it lasts a while.
>
> Steve
>
>
Odd. BTW, you are smart to keep the old DW. New appliances are
rather iffy.

--
Jean B.

On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 23:07:14 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:

>Steve B wrote:
>> We opted to keep an old white plastic Whirlpool dishwasher on our remodel
>> instead of getting a new one. This plastic POS cleans very well, and we
>> were cutting corners.
>>
>> A few months ago, we bought some purple bushel basket woven shaped plastic
>> baskets that we used for popcorn. Wifey thought they needed washing. She
>> put them into the dishwasher with (lucky for her) clear glass dishes that
>> were full of drywall dust.
>>
>> On opening the dishwasher, the inside was totally permanently streaked with
>> purple from the baskets. It looked like purple paint was perfectly slung
>> all over the inside of the dw.
>>
>> It looks soooo cool!
>>
>>
>> We both love it.
>>
>> It will be a nice story to tell, and we hope it lasts a while.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>Odd. BTW, you are smart to keep the old DW. New appliances are
>rather iffy.

You are so right. Last year our 5 year old dishwasher lost its water
pump (I think that was it) so off to Lowe's. I was looking for one
like we had, a top line Bosch which I love. Bosch had changed the
rack arrangement and I did not like any of them. Decided that
Electrolux was as close as we were going to get. It did not get
dishes clean unless you had them almost clean to start with. Returned
it. We ordered the part from Bosch (about $200) and got it in two
days. DH replaced it with minimum of profanity. It is great to have
a DH who can fix almost anything.
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

Steve B wrote:
> We opted to keep an old white plastic Whirlpool dishwasher on our
> remodel instead of getting a new one. This plastic POS cleans very
> well, and we were cutting corners.

I don't know why you're calling it a POS then. I love my Whirlpool
dishwasher. I bought it to replace my old Whirlpool dishwasher
which didn't break, it was just getting worn out.

Actually, when I had my kitchen remodelled, I kept the old
dishwasher as it was working fine. Saved spending a few hundred
bucks at a time when I was spending so much on everything else.
It's a standard size, so why not, easy enough to get a new one
to fit in there.

nancy

The Cook wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 23:07:14 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>> Steve B wrote:
>>> We opted to keep an old white plastic Whirlpool dishwasher on our remodel
>>> instead of getting a new one. This plastic POS cleans very well, and we
>>> were cutting corners.
>>>
>>> A few months ago, we bought some purple bushel basket woven shaped plastic
>>> baskets that we used for popcorn. Wifey thought they needed washing. She
>>> put them into the dishwasher with (lucky for her) clear glass dishes that
>>> were full of drywall dust.
>>>
>>> On opening the dishwasher, the inside was totally permanently streaked with
>>> purple from the baskets. It looked like purple paint was perfectly slung
>>> all over the inside of the dw.
>>>
>>> It looks soooo cool!
>>>
>>>
>>> We both love it.
>>>
>>> It will be a nice story to tell, and we hope it lasts a while.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>> Odd. BTW, you are smart to keep the old DW. New appliances are
>> rather iffy.
>
> You are so right. Last year our 5 year old dishwasher lost its water
> pump (I think that was it) so off to Lowe's. I was looking for one
> like we had, a top line Bosch which I love. Bosch had changed the
> rack arrangement and I did not like any of them. Decided that
> Electrolux was as close as we were going to get. It did not get
> dishes clean unless you had them almost clean to start with. Returned
> it. We ordered the part from Bosch (about $200) and got it in two
> days. DH replaced it with minimum of profanity. It is great to have
> a DH who can fix almost anything.

Hmmmm. I was just telling someone about my new GE, which has the
tiniest scratch in the door... which has started to rust after
THREE uses. I look inside my current Bosch (with the
nonfunctional water pump--did they ever fix this issue?), which I
used for many years and has an interior that looks brand new.
Maybe I should put a new DW the current house and store the Bosch.
I wonder whether the new GE will get totally rusty--like so many
other things that should be made for their intended uses involving
water.

--
Jean B.

On 21 Dec 2010 00:51:11 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>I had a top of the line Kenmore with SS tub that never rusted, but
>that was 10 years ago. Our next one, when we move, will be a Maytag.

Before you buy, I'd recommend that you look really hard at the
construction of the Maytags' racks, particularly the adjustable tines,
and how easy it is to get replacement parts.

And the potential durability of the surface of the control panel.

Our less than two year old Maytag stainless is a piece of junk that
I'll discard at the first opportunity. The upper rack is surviving,
despite the fact that it has one roller held on by a cable tie. 8

-- Larry

On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 23:14:17 -0500, wrote:
>
> Our less than two year old Maytag stainless is a piece of junk that
> I'll discard at the first opportunity. The upper rack is surviving,
> despite the fact that it has one roller held on by a cable tie. 8
>
Rollers seem to be a big problem, we haven't had that issue with the
Bosch but we had it with our previous dishwasher (I forget what brand
that one was).


--

Never trust a dog to watch your food.

"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> Thanks for the heads up. They used to make a decent product. I'd
> gladly spring for a European made d/w, but I will only buy a unit
> that has a soft food disposer and self cleaning filter.
> Unfortunately, none of them do.
>

We've used Kitchen Aid for the past 40 years in two different houses.
Second choice would be Whirlpool.

On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 23:14:17 -0500, wrote:

>On 21 Dec 2010 00:51:11 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:
>
>>I had a top of the line Kenmore with SS tub that never rusted, but
>>that was 10 years ago. Our next one, when we move, will be a Maytag.
>
>Before you buy, I'd recommend that you look really hard at the
>construction of the Maytags' racks, particularly the adjustable tines,
>and how easy it is to get replacement parts.
>
>And the potential durability of the surface of the control panel.
>
> Our less than two year old Maytag stainless is a piece of junk that
>I'll discard at the first opportunity. The upper rack is surviving,
>despite the fact that it has one roller held on by a cable tie. 8
>
>-- Larry


I also like the Bosch because not only can I get a water pump via the
Internet I can get parts for the racks or the entire racks.

It might be worth it to check out what parts you can get for various
machines without having to call a repair shop.
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

On Dec 19, 5:52*pm, "Steve B" > wrote:
> We opted to keep an old white plastic Whirlpool dishwasher on our remodel
> instead of getting a new one. *This plastic POS cleans very well, and we
> were cutting corners.
>
> A few months ago, we bought some purple bushel basket woven shaped plastic
> baskets that we used for popcorn. *Wifey thought they needed washing. *She
> put them into the dishwasher with (lucky for her) clear glass dishes that
> were full of drywall dust.
>
> On opening the dishwasher, the inside was totally permanently streaked with
> purple from the baskets. *It looked like purple paint was perfectly slung
> all over the inside of the dw.
>
> It looks soooo cool!
>
> We both love it.
>
> It will be a nice story to tell, and we hope it lasts a while.
>
> Steve

I did that once with a big red plastic bowl. My dishwasher was pink
inside for a few washes. It will eventually wash away. It was a bit
of a shock to open the dishwasher and have this bright pink shining
out at me !!

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Mon 20 Dec 2010 05:10:46p, Jean B. told us...
>
>> The Cook wrote:
>>> On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 23:07:14 -0500, "Jean B." >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Steve B wrote:
>>>>> We opted to keep an old white plastic Whirlpool dishwasher on
>>>>> our remodel instead of getting a new one. This plastic POS
>>>>> cleans very well, and we were cutting corners.
>>>>>
>>>>> A few months ago, we bought some purple bushel basket woven
>>>>> shaped plastic baskets that we used for popcorn. Wifey thought
>>>>> they needed washing. She put them into the dishwasher with
>>>>> (lucky for her) clear glass dishes that were full of drywall
>>>>> dust.
>>>>>
>>>>> On opening the dishwasher, the inside was totally permanently
>>>>> streaked with purple from the baskets. It looked like purple
>>>>> paint was perfectly slung all over the inside of the dw.
>>>>>
>>>>> It looks soooo cool!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We both love it.
>>>>>
>>>>> It will be a nice story to tell, and we hope it lasts a while.
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Odd. BTW, you are smart to keep the old DW. New appliances are
>>>> rather iffy.
>>> You are so right. Last year our 5 year old dishwasher lost its
>>> water pump (I think that was it) so off to Lowe's. I was looking
>>> for one like we had, a top line Bosch which I love. Bosch had
>>> changed the rack arrangement and I did not like any of them.
>>> Decided that Electrolux was as close as we were going to get. It
>>> did not get dishes clean unless you had them almost clean to
>>> start with. Returned it. We ordered the part from Bosch (about
>>> $200) and got it in two days. DH replaced it with minimum of
>>> profanity. It is great to have a DH who can fix almost anything.
>>>
>> Hmmmm. I was just telling someone about my new GE, which has the
>> tiniest scratch in the door... which has started to rust after
>> THREE uses. I look inside my current Bosch (with the
>> nonfunctional water pump--did they ever fix this issue?), which I
>> used for many years and has an interior that looks brand new.
>> Maybe I should put a new DW the current house and store the Bosch.
>> I wonder whether the new GE will get totally rusty--like so many
>> other things that should be made for their intended uses involving
>> water.
>>
>
> I had a top of the line Kenmore with SS tub that never rusted, but
> that was 10 years ago. Our next one, when we move, will be a Maytag.
>
But... Maytag now is most likely NOT like the old Maytags. :-(

--
Jean B.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
>> Thanks for the heads up. They used to make a decent product. I'd
>> gladly spring for a European made d/w, but I will only buy a unit
>> that has a soft food disposer and self cleaning filter.
>> Unfortunately, none of them do.
>>
>
> We've used Kitchen Aid for the past 40 years in two different houses.
> Second choice would be Whirlpool.

Again... How old is your latest KA?

BTW, I was going to say that KA was part of Whirlpool, which is
true. BUT, look at all of the related brands: Whirlpool, Maytag,
KitchenAid, Jenn-Air, Amana, Brastemp, Consul, Bauknecht, and
Gladiator.

--
Jean B.

The Cook wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 23:14:17 -0500, wrote:
>
>> On 21 Dec 2010 00:51:11 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I had a top of the line Kenmore with SS tub that never rusted, but
>>> that was 10 years ago. Our next one, when we move, will be a Maytag.
>> Before you buy, I'd recommend that you look really hard at the
>> construction of the Maytags' racks, particularly the adjustable tines,
>> and how easy it is to get replacement parts.
>>
>> And the potential durability of the surface of the control panel.
>>
>> Our less than two year old Maytag stainless is a piece of junk that
>> I'll discard at the first opportunity. The upper rack is surviving,
>> despite the fact that it has one roller held on by a cable tie. 8
>>
>> -- Larry
>
>
> I also like the Bosch because not only can I get a water pump via the
> Internet I can get parts for the racks or the entire racks.
>
> It might be worth it to check out what parts you can get for various
> machines without having to call a repair shop.

Ah. One can only hope to be able to get the pump installed on the
Bosch without calling an authorized repair company.

--
Jean B.

On 21 Dec 2010 18:29:02 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

> I'm in a quandry now. I don't really know what to buy. Seems like
> someone points out a flaw in almost every major brand.

Go with your gut. If your gut tells you Kitchen Aid, go with it. I
don't have a problem with Bosch. I clean the crud off my dishes
before they go into the dishwasher so I don't need a disposal and the
filter catches what I don't. In fact, I didn't even know it had a
filter until I put a jar with a label on it that dissolved in the
dishwasher and clogged up the filter. After mumble, mumble years the
filter was still clean (except for the label paper) in spite of me not
ever touching it.

--

Never trust a dog to watch your food.

On 21 Dec 2010 18:29:02 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

> I'm in a quandry now. I don't really know what to buy. Seems like
> someone points out a flaw in almost every major brand.

I forgot to add in my last reply that when I *really* don't have a
clue, I call a repair shop to pick their brain about what they'd
recommend - talk about their experience with service calls for the
various brands you're interested in and what they are usually for. It
may seem small/insignificant, but having those darned wheels fall off
is *really* irritating.

The process is like buying a new car only it's for a smaller item.

--

Never trust a dog to watch your food.

On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 23:14:17 -0500, wrote:

>On 21 Dec 2010 00:51:11 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:
>
>>I had a top of the line Kenmore with SS tub that never rusted, but
>>that was 10 years ago. Our next one, when we move, will be a Maytag.
>
>Before you buy, I'd recommend that you look really hard at the
>construction of the Maytags' racks, particularly the adjustable tines,
>and how easy it is to get replacement parts.
>
>And the potential durability of the surface of the control panel.
>
> Our less than two year old Maytag stainless is a piece of junk that
>I'll discard at the first opportunity. The upper rack is surviving,
>despite the fact that it has one roller held on by a cable tie. 8

My Maytag has been going strong for seven years now, nothing broken or
worn out, I've no complaints. I think everyone treats appliances and
everything differently, with some every brand new auto is a lemon, the
same exact cars for someone else last years needing nary a new battery
and tires. I know for a fact that some can't operate a brand new
water faucet but a few times and it begins to drip. Some can't hammer
a nail lest they miss two strokes out of every three, some can't
operate a window shade lest it bust. It's as simple as not everyone
has equal dexterity. If within ten minutes you can't learn to sharpen
a 1/4" twist drill free hand on a bench grinder to better than factory
standards odds are everything you touch turns to shit. I just now
looked, my Maytag's racks are pristine... in fact I don't see how they
can become damaged unless they are abused... if your Maytag's racks
are abused it's obvious you are lousy with manipulating certain other
sensitive parts.

On 21 Dec 2010 18:29:02 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Tue 21 Dec 2010 08:42:58a, Jean B. told us...
>
>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>> On Mon 20 Dec 2010 05:10:46p, Jean B. told us...
>>>
>>>> The Cook wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 23:07:14 -0500, "Jean B." >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve B wrote:
>>>>>>> We opted to keep an old white plastic Whirlpool dishwasher on
>>>>>>> our remodel instead of getting a new one. This plastic POS
>>>>>>> cleans very well, and we were cutting corners.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A few months ago, we bought some purple bushel basket woven
>>>>>>> shaped plastic baskets that we used for popcorn. Wifey
>>>>>>> thought they needed washing. She put them into the
>>>>>>> dishwasher with (lucky for her) clear glass dishes that were
>>>>>>> full of drywall dust.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On opening the dishwasher, the inside was totally permanently
>>>>>>> streaked with purple from the baskets. It looked like purple
>>>>>>> paint was perfectly slung all over the inside of the dw.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It looks soooo cool!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We both love it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It will be a nice story to tell, and we hope it lasts a
>>>>>>> while.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Odd. BTW, you are smart to keep the old DW. New appliances
>>>>>> are rather iffy.
>>>>> You are so right. Last year our 5 year old dishwasher lost its
>>>>> water pump (I think that was it) so off to Lowe's. I was
>>>>> looking for one like we had, a top line Bosch which I love.
>>>>> Bosch had changed the rack arrangement and I did not like any
>>>>> of them. Decided that Electrolux was as close as we were going
>>>>> to get. It did not get dishes clean unless you had them almost
>>>>> clean to start with. Returned it. We ordered the part from
>>>>> Bosch (about $200) and got it in two days. DH replaced it
>>>>> with minimum of profanity. It is great to have a DH who can
>>>>> fix almost anything.
>>>>>
>>>> Hmmmm. I was just telling someone about my new GE, which has
>>>> the tiniest scratch in the door... which has started to rust
>>>> after THREE uses. I look inside my current Bosch (with the
>>>> nonfunctional water pump--did they ever fix this issue?), which
>>>> I used for many years and has an interior that looks brand new.
>>>> Maybe I should put a new DW the current house and store the
>>>> Bosch.
>>>> I wonder whether the new GE will get totally rusty--like so
>>>> many
>>>> other things that should be made for their intended uses
>>>> involving water.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I had a top of the line Kenmore with SS tub that never rusted,
>>> but that was 10 years ago. Our next one, when we move, will be a
>>> Maytag.
>>>
>> But... Maytag now is most likely NOT like the old Maytags. :-(
>>
>
>I'm in a quandry now. I don't really know what to buy. Seems like
>someone points out a flaw in almost every major brand.


Find out which brand has someone in your area to do repairs. Talk to
the repair people and find out how long to get a service call. How
much is the call. Ask some of your friends who does repairs promptly
and well. Sometimes the store will have their own repair crew. When
we lived in Virginia we bought all of our appliances from the same
place for about 25 years. It was locally owned and had their own crew
and I always felt that I got great service. The first time I went
there was after looking at all the big box stores for a washing
machine. No one could deliver one for almost a week. I was headed
for the hospital for surgery in a few days and I had a less than one
year old at home. These were the days when we washed and dried our
own diapers. I found the washing machine I wanted and asked when I
could get it delivered. Would this afternoon be OK? The delivered it
that afternoon and took the old one away. They got my business from
then on.

When we were moving here to NC I decided that the Maytag dishwasher
that was in the house had to go. It was loud. I could hear it
running from one end of the house to the other. Besides, I could not
fit my dishes into it. So just about noon on New Year's Eve we went
to our favorite dealer. Doors locked but saw someone in there. The
owner came to the door and asked what we needed. I told him that I
wanted a specific model of Bosch dishwasher. He let us in, and in a
few minutes he as rolling the dishwasher out to the truck. I was
looking for some drip pans for the stove at the new place. It was a
GE that had removable panels on each side. When I told the owner's
wife what the model was she asked it if I wanted the whole replacement
panels. I got them at her cost and she was glad to get rid of them.
We also got the griddle panel for it. They did pretty well for
letting us in the door.

How I wish for that store here. This is a small town and if Lowe's
doesn't have it, it is a 40 mile trip to find it.
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 21:22:28 -0800, sf > wrote:

>On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 23:14:17 -0500, wrote:
>>
>> Our less than two year old Maytag stainless is a piece of junk that
>> I'll discard at the first opportunity. The upper rack is surviving,
>> despite the fact that it has one roller held on by a cable tie. 8
>>
>Rollers seem to be a big problem, we haven't had that issue with the
>Bosch but we had it with our previous dishwasher (I forget what brand
>that one was).

How does one remember problems with their last dishwasher but forget
the brand... I can remember every major kitchen appliance I have
owned, it's not like folks buy a new dishwasher every year. How can
we trust the details of anything you say?

On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 06:33:07 -0500, "Ed Pawlowski"
> wrote:

>
>"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
>> Thanks for the heads up. They used to make a decent product. I'd
>> gladly spring for a European made d/w, but I will only buy a unit
>> that has a soft food disposer and self cleaning filter.
>> Unfortunately, none of them do.
>>
>
>We've used Kitchen Aid for the past 40 years in two different houses.
>Second choice would be Whirlpool.

Kenmore is Whirlpool, Kitchen Aid is Whirlpool too. Was there a
dishwasher with the Kitchen Aid name 40 years ago? My ~12 year old
clothes dryer is a Kitchen Aid, but it's made by Whirlpool.

"Brooklyn1" wrote in message
How does one remember problems with their last dishwasher but forget
the brand... I can remember every major kitchen appliance I have
owned, it's not like folks buy a new dishwasher every year. How can
we trust the details of anything you say?

Because she is not a proven documented LIAR like you


From: "Sheldon" >
Date: 9 Apr 2006 14:12:52 -0700

I recently bought some smoked paprika too, from Penzeys. So far the
only thing I've cooked with it that I've liked is roast chicken (but my
cats don't like it so that was a first and last time). But I do like
it sprinkled on some foods as a condiment, excellent sprinkled on a
bowl of pea or bean soup, I like it on egg salad so I imagine it would
be good on deviled eggs. It has a nice real smoked flavor

And most recently this

From: brooklyn1 >
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 13:55:54 -0400

I agree. When it was fist offered I bought 4 ounces of Penzeys
smoked paprika to try it, will probably last the rest of my life and
beyond.... *one* tsp for two chicken breasts is too much. In fact the
smokiness is so overwhelming that even though they claim it's
naturally smoked over wood to me it tastes artificial, the smokiness
is very potent but doesn't taste of paprika at all. I've tried a tiny
dusting on a western omelet and the smoke flavor ruined it. I tried a
wee bit as a garnish on a cup of pea soup and had to toss it down the
drain.

On 12/21/2010 1:32 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Kenmore is Whirlpool, Kitchen Aid is Whirlpool too. Was there a
> dishwasher with the Kitchen Aid name 40 years ago? My ~12 year old
> clothes dryer is a Kitchen Aid, but it's made by Whirlpool.

The dishwasher I replaced in November was a KitchenAid by Hobart, and it
was 38 yrs old. It did a wonderful job, until it broke. Two different
repairmen came to look at it, and neither suggested having it repaired.
I replaced it with a Maytag, it runs fairly quiet and it is stainless
steel inside and out. I am happy with the job it is doing.

Becca

"Brooklyn1" wrote in message
...


Kenmore is Whirlpool, Kitchen Aid is Whirlpool too. Was there a
dishwasher with the Kitchen Aid name 40 years ago? My ~12 year old
clothes dryer is a Kitchen Aid, but it's made by Whirlpool.



I recently had to replace my Maytag and I chose a whirlpool. It is alright
but I kind of wish I had stuck with Maytag. It is just different. I use
cascade powder and cascade rinse aid but there are still white streaks on
my dishes. If anyone has a suggestion as to what may be causing this I
would really like to hear about it.

On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 19:51:00 -0600, "Phyllis Stone"
> wrote:

> I recently had to replace my Maytag and I chose a whirlpool. It is alright
> but I kind of wish I had stuck with Maytag. It is just different. I use
> cascade powder and cascade rinse aid but there are still white streaks on
> my dishes. If anyone has a suggestion as to what may be causing this I
> would really like to hear about it.

It sounds like the rinsing agent isn't working for you. Maybe the
dispenser is empty or maybe it's not working properly. Have you tried
a different brand, like Jet Dry?

--

Never trust a dog to watch your food.

"Jean B." > wrote
>>>
>>
>> We've used Kitchen Aid for the past 40 years in two different houses.
>> Second choice would be Whirlpool.
>
> Again... How old is your latest KA?
>
> BTW, I was going to say that KA was part of Whirlpool, which is true.
> BUT, look at all of the related brands: Whirlpool, Maytag, KitchenAid,
> Jenn-Air, Amana, Brastemp, Consul, Bauknecht, and Gladiator.
>
> --
> Jean B.

This one is about 6 years. The last one was 23 years when we replaced it.

"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote
>
> Kenmore is Whirlpool, Kitchen Aid is Whirlpool too. Was there a
> dishwasher with the Kitchen Aid name 40 years ago? My ~12 year old
> clothes dryer is a Kitchen Aid, but it's made by Whirlpool.

40 or so years ago it was still part of Hobart. I'm not sure if they went
from Hobart to Whirlpool or if there was another step between. Some Kenmore
is Frigidaire; mostly the lower end stuff

"Phyllis Stone" > wrote
> I recently had to replace my Maytag and I chose a whirlpool. It is alright
> but I kind of wish I had stuck with Maytag. It is just different. I use
> cascade powder and cascade rinse aid but there are still white streaks on
> my dishes. If anyone has a suggestion as to what may be causing this I
> would really like to hear about it.

Streaks and spots are usually due to hard water. Have you ever had it
tested? Once you get the buildup, it takes real scrubbing to get it off so
try an SOS pad.

On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 22:47:09 -0500, "Ed Pawlowski"
> wrote:

>
> "Phyllis Stone" > wrote
> > I recently had to replace my Maytag and I chose a whirlpool. It is alright
> > but I kind of wish I had stuck with Maytag. It is just different. I use
> > cascade powder and cascade rinse aid but there are still white streaks on
> > my dishes. If anyone has a suggestion as to what may be causing this I
> > would really like to hear about it.
>
> Streaks and spots are usually due to hard water. Have you ever had it
> tested? Once you get the buildup, it takes real scrubbing to get it off so
> try an SOS pad.

What about that LemiShine Wayne mentioned the other day?

--

Never trust a dog to watch your food.

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
...


"
Streaks and spots are usually due to hard water. Have you ever had it
tested? Once you get the buildup, it takes real scrubbing to get it off so
try an SOS pad.

I know, I have really been scrubbing a lot lately. The odd thing is that we
have lived in this house for over 30 yrs. and the last few months this has
happened. I live in Houston and so maybe they changed the water or
something. I really thought it was the 10 yr. old Maytag so we replaced it
but I seem to have the same problem.

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Tue 21 Dec 2010 08:42:58a, Jean B. told us...
>
>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>> On Mon 20 Dec 2010 05:10:46p, Jean B. told us...
>>>
>>>> The Cook wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 23:07:14 -0500, "Jean B." >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve B wrote:
>>>>>>> We opted to keep an old white plastic Whirlpool dishwasher on
>>>>>>> our remodel instead of getting a new one. This plastic POS
>>>>>>> cleans very well, and we were cutting corners.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A few months ago, we bought some purple bushel basket woven
>>>>>>> shaped plastic baskets that we used for popcorn. Wifey
>>>>>>> thought they needed washing. She put them into the
>>>>>>> dishwasher with (lucky for her) clear glass dishes that were
>>>>>>> full of drywall dust.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On opening the dishwasher, the inside was totally permanently
>>>>>>> streaked with purple from the baskets. It looked like purple
>>>>>>> paint was perfectly slung all over the inside of the dw.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It looks soooo cool!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We both love it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It will be a nice story to tell, and we hope it lasts a
>>>>>>> while.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Odd. BTW, you are smart to keep the old DW. New appliances
>>>>>> are rather iffy.
>>>>> You are so right. Last year our 5 year old dishwasher lost its
>>>>> water pump (I think that was it) so off to Lowe's. I was
>>>>> looking for one like we had, a top line Bosch which I love.
>>>>> Bosch had changed the rack arrangement and I did not like any
>>>>> of them. Decided that Electrolux was as close as we were going
>>>>> to get. It did not get dishes clean unless you had them almost
>>>>> clean to start with. Returned it. We ordered the part from
>>>>> Bosch (about $200) and got it in two days. DH replaced it
>>>>> with minimum of profanity. It is great to have a DH who can
>>>>> fix almost anything.
>>>>>
>>>> Hmmmm. I was just telling someone about my new GE, which has
>>>> the tiniest scratch in the door... which has started to rust
>>>> after THREE uses. I look inside my current Bosch (with the
>>>> nonfunctional water pump--did they ever fix this issue?), which
>>>> I used for many years and has an interior that looks brand new.
>>>> Maybe I should put a new DW the current house and store the
>>>> Bosch.
>>>> I wonder whether the new GE will get totally rusty--like so
>>>> many
>>>> other things that should be made for their intended uses
>>>> involving water.
>>>>
>>> I had a top of the line Kenmore with SS tub that never rusted,
>>> but that was 10 years ago. Our next one, when we move, will be a
>>> Maytag.
>>>
>> But... Maytag now is most likely NOT like the old Maytags. :-(
>>
>
> I'm in a quandry now. I don't really know what to buy. Seems like
> someone points out a flaw in almost every major brand.
>
Yes. I have noticed that, starting when I was researching cars in
the early 90s. :-( I am almost tempted to take the Bosch out of
the current house. IF it can get fixed...

--
Jean B.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> "Jean B." > wrote
>>>>
>>>
>>> We've used Kitchen Aid for the past 40 years in two different houses.
>>> Second choice would be Whirlpool.
>>
>> Again... How old is your latest KA?
>>
>> BTW, I was going to say that KA was part of Whirlpool, which is true.
>> BUT, look at all of the related brands: Whirlpool, Maytag,
>> KitchenAid, Jenn-Air, Amana, Brastemp, Consul, Bauknecht, and Gladiator.
>>
>> --
>> Jean B.
>
> This one is about 6 years. The last one was 23 years when we replaced it.

I am glad you had good luck both times! I wonder whether the old
one was still in the Hobart days?

--
Jean B.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> "Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote
>>
>> Kenmore is Whirlpool, Kitchen Aid is Whirlpool too. Was there a
>> dishwasher with the Kitchen Aid name 40 years ago? My ~12 year old
>> clothes dryer is a Kitchen Aid, but it's made by Whirlpool.
>
> 40 or so years ago it was still part of Hobart. I'm not sure if they
> went from Hobart to Whirlpool or if there was another step between.
> Some Kenmore is Frigidaire; mostly the lower end stuff

Really? I think I recall that they had appliances made by more
than one company, and that there was a code the one could use to
determine which company it was.

--
Jean B.

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> It really doesn't require such a scrub, which could also potentially
> scratch some items.
>
> A relatively newer product, Lemi-Shine, will not only remove any
> mineral deposits from items being washed, but will also keep the
> diswasher completely free from buildup. Depending on how severe the
> deposits are, it may take more than one cycle using Lemi-Shine to
> totally remove them.
>
> I use a powdered detergent in the open cup and Lemi-Shine in the
> closed cup. I've never had such sparkling dishes, gl;assware, and SS
> items in all the years I've used a dishwasher. I don't even need to
> use a rinse agent.
>
> Anaother thing the OP should check is proper water temperature,
> unless their dishwasher automatically heats the water to the proper
> temperature. It should be 140° F.
>
I need to find that when the holidays are over.

--
Jean B.

"Jean B." > wrote in message
...
> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> "Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote
>>>
>>> Kenmore is Whirlpool, Kitchen Aid is Whirlpool too. Was there a
>>> dishwasher with the Kitchen Aid name 40 years ago? My ~12 year old
>>> clothes dryer is a Kitchen Aid, but it's made by Whirlpool.
>>
>> 40 or so years ago it was still part of Hobart. I'm not sure if they
>> went from Hobart to Whirlpool or if there was another step between. Some
>> Kenmore is Frigidaire; mostly the lower end stuff
>
> Really? I think I recall that they had appliances made by more than one
> company, and that there was a code the one could use to determine which
> company it was.
>
> --
> Jean B.

They use those two the most, but others get in on the fun too
http://www.applianceaid.com/searscodes.html

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> "Jean B." > wrote in message
> ...
>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>
>>> "Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote
>>>>
>>>> Kenmore is Whirlpool, Kitchen Aid is Whirlpool too. Was there a
>>>> dishwasher with the Kitchen Aid name 40 years ago? My ~12 year old
>>>> clothes dryer is a Kitchen Aid, but it's made by Whirlpool.
>>>
>>> 40 or so years ago it was still part of Hobart. I'm not sure if they
>>> went from Hobart to Whirlpool or if there was another step between.
>>> Some Kenmore is Frigidaire; mostly the lower end stuff
>>
>> Really? I think I recall that they had appliances made by more than
>> one company, and that there was a code that one could use to determine
>> which company it was.
>>
>> --
>> Jean B.
>
> They use those two the most, but others get in on the fun too
> http://www.applianceaid.com/searscodes.html
>
>
Thanks for supplying that again. Who knows whether I could find
it in my mess of bookmarks.

--
Jean B.

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Wed 22 Dec 2010 09:22:06p, Jean B. told us...
>
>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>> It really doesn't require such a scrub, which could also
>>> potentially scratch some items.
>>>
>>> A relatively newer product, Lemi-Shine, will not only remove any
>>> mineral deposits from items being washed, but will also keep the
>>> diswasher completely free from buildup. Depending on how severe
>>> the deposits are, it may take more than one cycle using
>>> Lemi-Shine to totally remove them.
>>>
>>> I use a powdered detergent in the open cup and Lemi-Shine in the
>>> closed cup. I've never had such sparkling dishes, gl;assware,
>>> and SS items in all the years I've used a dishwasher. I don't
>>> even need to use a rinse agent.
>>>
>>> Anaother thing the OP should check is proper water temperature,
>>> unless their dishwasher automatically heats the water to the
>>> proper temperature. It should be 140° F.
>>>
>> I need to find that when the holidays are over.
>>
>
> Yes, I thinkyou'll be impressed by the results.
>
I hope so. I have decided I need a whole house filter. :-( It
is just as well I'm not using the dishwasher right now.

--
Jean B.

On 12/21/2010 10:40 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> "Jean B." > wrote
>>>>
>>>
>>> We've used Kitchen Aid for the past 40 years in two different houses.
>>> Second choice would be Whirlpool.
>>
>> Again... How old is your latest KA?
>>
>> BTW, I was going to say that KA was part of Whirlpool, which is true.
>> BUT, look at all of the related brands: Whirlpool, Maytag, KitchenAid,
>> Jenn-Air, Amana, Brastemp, Consul, Bauknecht, and Gladiator.
>>
>> --
>> Jean B.
>
> This one is about 6 years. The last one was 23 years when we replaced it.

My current one is about that old. Original to the house. I have some
issues with it so looking to replace at some point soon. I really want
to get rid of the air gap part.

On 12/21/2010 10:02 AM, ImStillMags wrote:
> On Dec 19, 5:52 pm, "Steve > wrote:
>> We opted to keep an old white plastic Whirlpool dishwasher on our remodel
>> instead of getting a new one. This plastic POS cleans very well, and we
>> were cutting corners.
>>
>> A few months ago, we bought some purple bushel basket woven shaped plastic
>> baskets that we used for popcorn. Wifey thought they needed washing. She
>> put them into the dishwasher with (lucky for her) clear glass dishes that
>> were full of drywall dust.
>>
>> On opening the dishwasher, the inside was totally permanently streaked with
>> purple from the baskets. It looked like purple paint was perfectly slung
>> all over the inside of the dw.
>>
>> It looks soooo cool!
>>
>> We both love it.
>>
>> It will be a nice story to tell, and we hope it lasts a while.
>>
>> Steve
>
> I did that once with a big red plastic bowl. My dishwasher was pink
> inside for a few washes. It will eventually wash away. It was a bit
> of a shock to open the dishwasher and have this bright pink shining
> out at me !!
>
>
I did that to my brand new clothes dryer somehow. It has red stains from
something, but luckily the red isn't transferring to other clothes.