Since all guests end up in my kitchen I would like to have a house with
about 1200 feet of open kitchen, dining area, and living room. At the
far end of that would be three or four bedrooms and a couple of
bathrooms. The kitchen must have a ten X ten pantry and a ten X ten
office and a half bath would be nice too.

Unfortunately I would have to have one built to my specifications and,
unless I win the Powerball lottery that's not going to happen. Doesn't
hurt to dream though.

On Jan 25, 10:50*am, George Shirley > wrote:
> Since all guests end up in my kitchen I would like to have a house with
> about 1200 feet of open kitchen, dining area, and living room. At the
> far end of that would be three or four bedrooms and a couple of
> bathrooms. The kitchen must have a ten X ten pantry and a ten X ten
> office and a half bath would be nice too.
>
> Unfortunately I would have to have one built to my specifications and,
> unless I win the Powerball lottery that's not going to happen. Doesn't
> hurt to dream though.

Me goo George. One huge 'great room' with my dream kitchen.

On 1/25/2011 1:07 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
> On Jan 25, 10:50 am, George > wrote:
>> Since all guests end up in my kitchen I would like to have a house with
>> about 1200 feet of open kitchen, dining area, and living room. At the
>> far end of that would be three or four bedrooms and a couple of
>> bathrooms. The kitchen must have a ten X ten pantry and a ten X ten
>> office and a half bath would be nice too.
>>
>> Unfortunately I would have to have one built to my specifications and,
>> unless I win the Powerball lottery that's not going to happen. Doesn't
>> hurt to dream though.
>
> Me goo George. One huge 'great room' with my dream kitchen.

I don't have a half-bath off of mine, but George pretty much describes
our layout. Most of the house is open with the kitchen separated by a
breakfast bar that has wonderful cabinets and drawers on the kitchen
side. The bedrooms are on the other side of the house, along a hallway
separated by an arch from the living area. I have tons of counter space.

Office is off the dining area in a "safe room"

We have 3 bedrooms.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

On Jan 25, 12:50*pm, George Shirley > wrote:
> Since all guests end up in my kitchen I would like to have a house with
> about 1200 feet of open kitchen, dining area, and living room. At the
> far end of that would be three or four bedrooms and a couple of
> bathrooms. The kitchen must have a ten X ten pantry and a ten X ten
> office and a half bath would be nice too.

What about a center island in the kitchen, with instead of a pull-out
garbage can, there was a glory hole with Chemo the Klown at the ready
for a blowjob while you were prepping yer dinner?

George Shirley wrote:
>
> Since all guests end up in my kitchen I would like to have a house with
> about 1200 feet of open kitchen, dining area, and living room. At the
> far end of that would be three or four bedrooms and a couple of
> bathrooms. The kitchen must have a ten X ten pantry and a ten X ten
> office and a half bath would be nice too.

What you are referring to is the all too common "show kitchen" house,
usually resided in by people too lazy (they call it busy) to actually
cook anything. The only time anything in most of those kitchens is used
is when they hire a caterer for a party and let them use the ovens to
warm food that was cooked off site.

On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 12:50:39 -0600, George Shirley
> wrote:

> Since all guests end up in my kitchen I would like to have a house with
> about 1200 feet of open kitchen, dining area, and living room.

Isn't that what the current Great Room composition is all about?

> At the
> far end of that would be three or four bedrooms and a couple of
> bathrooms. The kitchen must have a ten X ten pantry and a ten X ten
> office and a half bath would be nice too.

My ideal house is H shaped with partially covered patios (complete
with overhead fans) in the open parts of the back to back U's. One
side is the bedroom wing and there will be a private guest suite at
the very end of it with a small sink/refrigerator/burner unit for
snacking purposes without feeling like they're rummaging someone
else's kitchen. The bedroom wing will have a hallway with a glass
wall on the interior side The other side is the kitchen/family room
wing, connected by a living room area. The courtyard facing the
street will have a wall with a gate. The dining room will face that
courtyard and there will be a huge picture window with doors that push
back to let the outside in. One of the patios will have an outdoor
kitchen and the other a fireplace, but the locations switch depending
on which dream I'm in at the time.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

On 1/25/2011 2:38 PM, Pete C. wrote:
>
> George Shirley wrote:
>>
>> Since all guests end up in my kitchen I would like to have a house with
>> about 1200 feet of open kitchen, dining area, and living room. At the
>> far end of that would be three or four bedrooms and a couple of
>> bathrooms. The kitchen must have a ten X ten pantry and a ten X ten
>> office and a half bath would be nice too.
>
> What you are referring to is the all too common "show kitchen" house,
> usually resided in by people too lazy (they call it busy) to actually
> cook anything. The only time anything in most of those kitchens is used
> is when they hire a caterer for a party and let them use the ovens to
> warm food that was cooked off site.

I must be quite the "showman" because I have that kind of kitchen and
it's never been touched by a caterer. I cook!

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

Janet Wilder wrote:
>
> On 1/25/2011 2:38 PM, Pete C. wrote:
> >
> > George Shirley wrote:
> >>
> >> Since all guests end up in my kitchen I would like to have a house with
> >> about 1200 feet of open kitchen, dining area, and living room. At the
> >> far end of that would be three or four bedrooms and a couple of
> >> bathrooms. The kitchen must have a ten X ten pantry and a ten X ten
> >> office and a half bath would be nice too.
> >
> > What you are referring to is the all too common "show kitchen" house,
> > usually resided in by people too lazy (they call it busy) to actually
> > cook anything. The only time anything in most of those kitchens is used
> > is when they hire a caterer for a party and let them use the ovens to
> > warm food that was cooked off site.
>
> I must be quite the "showman" because I have that kind of kitchen and
> it's never been touched by a caterer. I cook!

Then you would be the exception to the "usually" I mentioned. You can be
proud to be in the minority of those with "show kitchens" who actually
use them.

"George Shirley" > wrote in message
...
> Since all guests end up in my kitchen I would like to have a house with
> about 1200 feet of open kitchen, dining area, and living room. At the far
> end of that would be three or four bedrooms and a couple of bathrooms. The
> kitchen must have a ten X ten pantry and a ten X ten office and a half
> bath would be nice too.
>
> Unfortunately I would have to have one built to my specifications and,
> unless I win the Powerball lottery that's not going to happen. Doesn't
> hurt to dream though.

That would be my ideal too. Sadly my whole house isn't a lot bigger than
that.

On Jan 25, 5:58*pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> "George Shirley" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > Since all guests end up in my kitchen I would like to have a house with
> > about 1200 feet of open kitchen, dining area, and living room. At the far
> > end of that would be three or four bedrooms and a couple of bathrooms. The
> > kitchen must have a ten X ten pantry and a ten X ten office and a half
> > bath would be nice too.
>
> > Unfortunately I would have to have one built to my specifications and,
> > unless I win the Powerball lottery that's not going to happen. Doesn't
> > hurt to dream though.
>
> That would be my ideal too. *Sadly my whole house isn't a lot bigger than
> that.

Any kitchen with a nice island in it would be great. I don't have
enough room for that.

sf > wrote in
:

> On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 12:50:39 -0600, George Shirley
> > wrote:
>
>> Since all guests end up in my kitchen I would like to have a
>> house with about 1200 feet of open kitchen, dining area, and
>> living room.
>
> Isn't that what the current Great Room composition is all
> about?
>
>> At the
>> far end of that would be three or four bedrooms and a couple
>> of bathrooms. The kitchen must have a ten X ten pantry and a
>> ten X ten office and a half bath would be nice too.
>
> My ideal house is H shaped with partially covered patios
> (complete with overhead fans) in the open parts of the back to
> back U's.
> One side is the bedroom wing and there will be a
> private guest suite at the very end of it with a small
> sink/refrigerator/burner unit for snacking purposes without
> feeling like they're rummaging someone else's kitchen. The
> bedroom wing will have a hallway with a glass wall on the
> interior side The other side is the kitchen/family room wing,
> connected by a living room area. The courtyard facing the
> street will have a wall with a gate. The dining room will
> face that courtyard and there will be a huge picture window
> with doors that push back to let the outside in. One of the
> patios will have an outdoor kitchen and the other a fireplace,
> but the locations switch depending on which dream I'm in at
> the time.

I like your idea.

Mine would be a square o shape. Courtyard in the middle of the o.
(Perfect for the grand kids!)
House would be the o, of course. One side huge kitchen/family
area, other side bedrooms, top would be the entry area and lower
part of the 0 would be the laundry, mud room area and garage.

On 26 Jan 2011 01:12:18 GMT, sandi > wrote:

> I like your idea.
>
> Mine would be a square o shape. Courtyard in the middle of the o.
> (Perfect for the grand kids!)
> House would be the o, of course. One side huge kitchen/family
> area, other side bedrooms, top would be the entry area and lower
> part of the 0 would be the laundry, mud room area and garage.

I like your idea too and have considered it seriously in the past, but
H won out over O and U as the years passed. I was particularly
enamored with the O idea when my kids were under 6 and needed to be
corralled at all times.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:58:03 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "George Shirley" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Since all guests end up in my kitchen I would like to have a house with
> > about 1200 feet of open kitchen, dining area, and living room. At the far
> > end of that would be three or four bedrooms and a couple of bathrooms. The
> > kitchen must have a ten X ten pantry and a ten X ten office and a half
> > bath would be nice too.
> >
> > Unfortunately I would have to have one built to my specifications and,
> > unless I win the Powerball lottery that's not going to happen. Doesn't
> > hurt to dream though.
>
> That would be my ideal too. Sadly my whole house isn't a lot bigger than
> that.
>

There's no size limit when designing dream kitchens/houses.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

In article >,
says...
>
> On 26 Jan 2011 01:12:18 GMT, sandi > wrote:
>
> > I like your idea.
> >
> > Mine would be a square o shape. Courtyard in the middle of the o.
> > (Perfect for the grand kids!)
> > House would be the o, of course. One side huge kitchen/family
> > area, other side bedrooms, top would be the entry area and lower
> > part of the 0 would be the laundry, mud room area and garage.
>
> I like your idea too and have considered it seriously in the past, but
> H won out over O and U as the years passed. I was particularly
> enamored with the O idea when my kids were under 6 and needed to be
> corralled at all times.

What you're describing sounds like the atrium/peristyle house that was
popular among the ancient Romans. Needs very careful design or the
atrium can become a dim, moldy disaster.

On Jan 25, 8:12*pm, sandi > wrote:
> sf > wrote :
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 12:50:39 -0600, George Shirley
> > > wrote:
>
> >> Since all guests end up in my kitchen I would like to have a
> >> house with about 1200 feet of open kitchen, dining area, and
> >> living room.
>
> > Isn't that what the current Great Room composition is all
> > about?
>
> >> At the
> >> far end of that would be three or four bedrooms and a couple
> >> of bathrooms. The kitchen must have a ten X ten pantry and a
> >> ten X ten office and a half bath would be nice too.
>
> > My ideal house is H shaped with partially covered patios
> > (complete with overhead fans) in the open parts of the back to
> > back U's. *
> > One side is the bedroom wing and there will be a
> > private guest suite at the very end of it with a small
> > sink/refrigerator/burner unit for snacking purposes without
> > feeling like they're rummaging someone else's kitchen. *The
> > bedroom wing will have a hallway with a glass wall on the
> > interior side *The other side is the kitchen/family room wing,
> > connected by a living room area. *The courtyard facing the
> > street will have a wall with a gate. *The dining room will
> > face that courtyard and there will be a huge picture window
> > with doors that push back to let the outside in. *One of the
> > patios will have an outdoor kitchen and the other a fireplace,
> > but the locations switch depending on which dream I'm in at
> > the time.
>
> I like your idea.
>
> Mine would be a square o shape. *Courtyard in the middle of the o.
> (Perfect for the grand kids!)
> House would be the o, of course. *One side huge kitchen/family
> area, *other side bedrooms, top would be the entry area and lower
> part of the 0 would be the laundry, mud room area and garage.

Is that a complete O, or will there be some kind of gate so
landscapers
can bring in a bobcat or something?

Cindy Hamilton

On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 08:56:53 -0500, "J. Clarke"
> wrote:

> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > On 26 Jan 2011 01:12:18 GMT, sandi > wrote:
> >
> > > I like your idea.
> > >
> > > Mine would be a square o shape. Courtyard in the middle of the o.
> > > (Perfect for the grand kids!)
> > > House would be the o, of course. One side huge kitchen/family
> > > area, other side bedrooms, top would be the entry area and lower
> > > part of the 0 would be the laundry, mud room area and garage.
> >
> > I like your idea too and have considered it seriously in the past, but
> > H won out over O and U as the years passed. I was particularly
> > enamored with the O idea when my kids were under 6 and needed to be
> > corralled at all times.
>
> What you're describing sounds like the atrium/peristyle house that was
> popular among the ancient Romans. Needs very careful design or the
> atrium can become a dim, moldy disaster.
>
It's Spanish/Mexican style. The interior courtyard does not have a
roof.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 06:38:37 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

> Is that a complete O, or will there be some kind of gate so
> landscapers can bring in a bobcat or something?

Dreams are not perfect. The garage can be a pass through, there can
be a breezeway with gates or maybe the gardener will fly over the roof
with his lawnmower.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

On Jan 28, 12:52*pm, sf > wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 06:38:37 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>
> > wrote:
> > Is that a complete O, or will there be some kind of gate so
> > landscapers can bring in a bobcat or something?
>
> Dreams are not perfect. *The garage can be a pass through, there can
> be a breezeway with gates or maybe the gardener will fly over the roof
> with his lawnmower.

Huh. I always take that kind of thing into account during my "I won
the lottery" fantasies. Probably comes from all of the DIY projects
we've done over the years.

"Ok, we'll have a tankless water heater under the kitchen, and another
one under the bathroom..." Although I often plan the house with a
"core" of mechanicals; back-to-back kitchen and bathrooms to minimize
the plumbing runs. (Then I add a bath by the back door, and all
that engineering goes out the window.) I spend as much time thinking
about structure as I do about finishes (wood and stone, mostly).

Cindy Hamilton

On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 12:27:16 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Jan 28, 12:52*pm, sf > wrote:
>> On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 06:38:37 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> > wrote:
>> > Is that a complete O, or will there be some kind of gate so
>> > landscapers can bring in a bobcat or something?
>>
>> Dreams are not perfect. *The garage can be a pass through, there can
>> be a breezeway with gates or maybe the gardener will fly over the roof
>> with his lawnmower.
>
>Huh. I always take that kind of thing into account during my "I won
>the lottery" fantasies. Probably comes from all of the DIY projects
>we've done over the years.
>
>"Ok, we'll have a tankless water heater under the kitchen, and another
>one under the bathroom..." Although I often plan the house with a
>"core" of mechanicals; back-to-back kitchen and bathrooms to minimize
>the plumbing runs. (Then I add a bath by the back door, and all
>that engineering goes out the window.) I spend as much time thinking
>about structure as I do about finishes (wood and stone, mostly).
>
>Cindy Hamilton

With the true Spanish homes with atrium there are no lawns, not in the
atrium nor around the entire house. In the US southwest the McMansion
idiots struggle with growing patches of various grasses, none of which
are native to that biome.

On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 12:27:16 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

> On Jan 28, 12:52*pm, sf > wrote:
> > On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 06:38:37 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > Is that a complete O, or will there be some kind of gate so
> > > landscapers can bring in a bobcat or something?
> >
> > Dreams are not perfect. *The garage can be a pass through, there can
> > be a breezeway with gates or maybe the gardener will fly over the roof
> > with his lawnmower.
>
> Huh. I always take that kind of thing into account during my "I won
> the lottery" fantasies. Probably comes from all of the DIY projects
> we've done over the years.
>
> "Ok, we'll have a tankless water heater under the kitchen, and another
> one under the bathroom..." Although I often plan the house with a
> "core" of mechanicals; back-to-back kitchen and bathrooms to minimize
> the plumbing runs. (Then I add a bath by the back door, and all
> that engineering goes out the window.) I spend as much time thinking
> about structure as I do about finishes (wood and stone, mostly).
>
Viva la difference!

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

In article >,
says...
>
> On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 08:56:53 -0500, "J. Clarke"
> > wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > says...
> > >
> > > On 26 Jan 2011 01:12:18 GMT, sandi > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I like your idea.
> > > >
> > > > Mine would be a square o shape. Courtyard in the middle of the o.
> > > > (Perfect for the grand kids!)
> > > > House would be the o, of course. One side huge kitchen/family
> > > > area, other side bedrooms, top would be the entry area and lower
> > > > part of the 0 would be the laundry, mud room area and garage.
> > >
> > > I like your idea too and have considered it seriously in the past, but
> > > H won out over O and U as the years passed. I was particularly
> > > enamored with the O idea when my kids were under 6 and needed to be
> > > corralled at all times.
> >
> > What you're describing sounds like the atrium/peristyle house that was
> > popular among the ancient Romans. Needs very careful design or the
> > atrium can become a dim, moldy disaster.
> >
> It's Spanish/Mexican style. The interior courtyard does not have a
> roof.

In Roman houses the atrium and the peristyle were both open to the sky.

On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 18:36:41 -0500, "J. Clarke"
> wrote:

> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 08:56:53 -0500, "J. Clarke"
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > In article >,
> > > says...
> > > >
> > > > On 26 Jan 2011 01:12:18 GMT, sandi > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I like your idea.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mine would be a square o shape. Courtyard in the middle of the o.
> > > > > (Perfect for the grand kids!)
> > > > > House would be the o, of course. One side huge kitchen/family
> > > > > area, other side bedrooms, top would be the entry area and lower
> > > > > part of the 0 would be the laundry, mud room area and garage.
> > > >
> > > > I like your idea too and have considered it seriously in the past, but
> > > > H won out over O and U as the years passed. I was particularly
> > > > enamored with the O idea when my kids were under 6 and needed to be
> > > > corralled at all times.
> > >
> > > What you're describing sounds like the atrium/peristyle house that was
> > > popular among the ancient Romans. Needs very careful design or the
> > > atrium can become a dim, moldy disaster.
> > >
> > It's Spanish/Mexican style. The interior courtyard does not have a
> > roof.
>
> In Roman houses the atrium and the peristyle were both open to the sky.
>
In that case, it would be like a peristyle not an atrium.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.