I was in the checkout line at the market when a guy asks the checker,
"Where's the ammonia?" The checker says, "I don't think we carry that
anymore." The checker looks to the ass't. manager, who's bagging
groceries, for confirmation. "Yeah," the ass't. manager says, "it can
be used to make bombs, so we don't carry it anymore."

You have to be kidding me. You HAVE to be kidding me. What's next? You
can't get fertilizer at Home Depot?

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

--

To reply, remove "spambot" and replace it with "cox"

In article >,
Terry Pulliam Burd > wrote:

> I was in the checkout line at the market when a guy asks the checker,
> "Where's the ammonia?" The checker says, "I don't think we carry that
> anymore." The checker looks to the ass't. manager, who's bagging
> groceries, for confirmation. "Yeah," the ass't. manager says, "it can
> be used to make bombs, so we don't carry it anymore."
>
> You have to be kidding me. You HAVE to be kidding me. What's next? You
> can't get fertilizer at Home Depot?

LOL, really? Anyone with a halfway decent grasp of high school
chemistry can make a bomb out of lots of things, including flour.

Are they going to ban that next?

Miche

--
Electricians do it in three phases

On Mar 5, 9:54*pm, Terry Pulliam Burd > wrote:
> I was in the checkout line at the market when a guy asks the checker,
> "Where's the ammonia?" The checker says, "I don't think we carry that
> anymore." The checker looks to the ass't. manager, who's bagging
> groceries, for confirmation. "Yeah," the ass't. manager says, "it can
> be used to make bombs, so we don't carry it anymore."
>
> You have to be kidding me. You HAVE to be kidding me. What's next? You
> can't get fertilizer at Home Depot?
>

Household ammonia is too watery to build a good bomb with. But mixing
it with bleach might have been asphyxiating people. Are there any uses
for it other than stripping floor wax? Not too much Johnson's Glo-Coat
is going on floors any more.

In article
>,
spamtrap1888 > wrote:

> Are there any uses for it other than stripping floor wax? Not too
> much Johnson's Glo-Coat is going on floors any more.

It's a good grease-cutter and is often used for cleaning glass; e.g.,
windows.

--
Barb

In article >,
says...
>
> In article
> >,
> spamtrap1888 > wrote:
>
> > Are there any uses for it other than stripping floor wax? Not too
> > much Johnson's Glo-Coat is going on floors any more.
>
> It's a good grease-cutter and is often used for cleaning glass; e.g.,
> windows.

Also used to put a traditional finish on oak furniture, however the
ammonia used for that is generally a higher concentration than that
usually sold as a cleaning product.

On Sun, 06 Mar 2011 07:32:43 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
> wrote:

>In article
>,
> spamtrap1888 > wrote:
>
>> Are there any uses for it other than stripping floor wax? Not too
>> much Johnson's Glo-Coat is going on floors any more.
>
>It's a good grease-cutter and is often used for cleaning glass; e.g.,
>windows.

We use most of ours for cleaning paint brushes. Also use it in laundry
and on windows.

Bombs are for showoffs-- if I wanted to kill someone with my ammonia,
I'd mix it with Clorox and gas them.

Jim

On Mar 6, 7:32*am, Melba's Jammin' > wrote:
> In article
> >,
>
> *spamtrap1888 > wrote:
> > Are there any uses for it other than stripping floor wax? Not too
> > much Johnson's Glo-Coat is going on floors any more.
>
> It's a good grease-cutter and is often used for cleaning glass; e.g.,
> windows.
>
> --
> Barb

....and ovens (uainf the fumes).

N.

On Sun, 06 Mar 2011 07:32:43 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
> arranged random neurons and said:

>In article
>,
> spamtrap1888 > wrote:
>
>> Are there any uses for it other than stripping floor wax? Not too
>> much Johnson's Glo-Coat is going on floors any more.
>
>It's a good grease-cutter and is often used for cleaning glass; e.g.,
>windows.

I've used ammonia for years to clean glass and soak jewelry with
precious gems. One of my earliest memories was of my sadistic mother,
who was soaking her engagement ring in a teacup of ammonia and water.
I inquired as to the contents of the teacup. She told me to sniff it
and see. She thought it was hilarious when I almost retched from the
fumes.

The only reason I went to that woman's funeral was to make sure she
was dead.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

--

To reply, remove "spambot" and replace it with "cox"

In article
>,
spamtrap1888 > wrote:

> On Mar 5, 9:54*pm, Terry Pulliam Burd > wrote:
> > I was in the checkout line at the market when a guy asks the checker,
> > "Where's the ammonia?" The checker says, "I don't think we carry that
> > anymore." The checker looks to the ass't. manager, who's bagging
> > groceries, for confirmation. "Yeah," the ass't. manager says, "it can
> > be used to make bombs, so we don't carry it anymore."
> >
> > You have to be kidding me. You HAVE to be kidding me. What's next? You
> > can't get fertilizer at Home Depot?
> >
>
> Household ammonia is too watery to build a good bomb with.

I used to make nitrogen triiodide:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen_triiodide

The instructions said to detonate it with a feather attached to a ten
foot pole!

I made it with household ammonia.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

On Mar 6, 1:51*am, spamtrap1888 > wrote:
> On Mar 5, 9:54*pm, Terry Pulliam Burd > wrote:
>
> > I was in the checkout line at the market when a guy asks the checker,
> > "Where's the ammonia?" The checker says, "I don't think we carry that
> > anymore." The checker looks to the ass't. manager, who's bagging
> > groceries, for confirmation. "Yeah," the ass't. manager says, "it can
> > be used to make bombs, so we don't carry it anymore."
>
> > You have to be kidding me. You HAVE to be kidding me. What's next? You
> > can't get fertilizer at Home Depot?
>
> Household ammonia is too watery to build a good bomb with. But mixing
> it with bleach might have been asphyxiating people. Are there any uses
> for it other than stripping floor wax? Not too much Johnson's Glo-Coat
> is going on floors any more.

It's good for washing windows.

> wrote:
>
>I was in the checkout line at the market when a guy asks the checker,
>"Where's the ammonia?" The checker says, "I don't think we carry that
>anymore." The checker looks to the ass't. manager, who's bagging
>groceries, for confirmation. "Yeah," the ass't. manager says, "it can
>be used to make bombs, so we don't carry it anymore."
>
>You have to be kidding me. You HAVE to be kidding me. What's next? You
>can't get fertilizer at Home Depot?
>
>Terry "Manure" PullMyFinger Turd

Home Depot can't compete with you.

On 3/6/2011 12:54 AM, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
> I was in the checkout line at the market when a guy asks the checker,
> "Where's the ammonia?" The checker says, "I don't think we carry that
> anymore." The checker looks to the ass't. manager, who's bagging
> groceries, for confirmation. "Yeah," the ass't. manager says, "it can
> be used to make bombs, so we don't carry it anymore."
>
> You have to be kidding me. You HAVE to be kidding me. What's next? You
> can't get fertilizer at Home Depot?
>

Makes sense, it is important to be politically correct and not offend
certain groups who are known for doing stuff so instead offend and
inconvenience everyone..

I remember one time trying to buy a grill lighter and being told they
were all pulled and couldn't be sold. I asked at the one federal
facility where I work and the security guy showed me if it was a b-5.m
(making that up) alert condition stores couldn't sell certain items
among those being lighters.



> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
>
> --
>
> To reply, remove "spambot" and replace it with "cox"

In article >,
George > wrote:


> I remember one time trying to buy a grill lighter and being told they
> were all pulled and couldn't be sold.

I already had the lighter, I just needed the butane refill. Looked all
over the store. I got to the register and the clerk said it was too bad
I had spent the time looking, they were locked up. She went and got me
one.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

In article >,
lid says...
>
> On 3/6/2011 12:54 AM, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
> > I was in the checkout line at the market when a guy asks the checker,
> > "Where's the ammonia?" The checker says, "I don't think we carry that
> > anymore." The checker looks to the ass't. manager, who's bagging
> > groceries, for confirmation. "Yeah," the ass't. manager says, "it can
> > be used to make bombs, so we don't carry it anymore."
> >
> > You have to be kidding me. You HAVE to be kidding me. What's next? You
> > can't get fertilizer at Home Depot?
> >
>
> Makes sense, it is important to be politically correct and not offend
> certain groups who are known for doing stuff so instead offend and
> inconvenience everyone..
>
> I remember one time trying to buy a grill lighter and being told they
> were all pulled and couldn't be sold. I asked at the one federal
> facility where I work and the security guy showed me if it was a b-5.m
> (making that up) alert condition stores couldn't sell certain items
> among those being lighters.

Our government has gone nuts.

On Mar 6, 10:49*am, "J. Clarke" > wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 3/6/2011 12:54 AM, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
> > > I was in the checkout line at the market when a guy asks the checker,
> > > "Where's the ammonia?" The checker says, "I don't think we carry that
> > > anymore." The checker looks to the ass't. manager, who's bagging
> > > groceries, for confirmation. "Yeah," the ass't. manager says, "it can
> > > be used to make bombs, so we don't carry it anymore."
>
> > > You have to be kidding me. You HAVE to be kidding me. What's next? You
> > > can't get fertilizer at Home Depot?
>
> > Makes sense, it is important to be politically correct and not offend
> > certain groups who are known for doing stuff so instead offend and
> > inconvenience everyone..
>
> > I remember one time trying to buy a grill lighter and being told they
> > were all pulled and couldn't be sold. I asked at the one federal
> > facility where I work and the security guy showed me if it was a b-5.m
> > (making that up) alert condition stores couldn't sell certain items
> > among those being lighters.
>
> Our government has gone nuts.

Governments have always been nuts. The person who does honest labor,
pays jerks to govern them. It's all relative isn't it. Libya's
current government is corrupt. But our (Western) governments are also
corrupt but not to the extent that Libya's is.

On 3/6/2011 8:49 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
> In >,
> lid says...
>>
>> On 3/6/2011 12:54 AM, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>>> I was in the checkout line at the market when a guy asks the checker,
>>> "Where's the ammonia?" The checker says, "I don't think we carry that
>>> anymore." The checker looks to the ass't. manager, who's bagging
>>> groceries, for confirmation. "Yeah," the ass't. manager says, "it can
>>> be used to make bombs, so we don't carry it anymore."
>>>

>
> Our government has gone nuts.
>


I sympathize, but when a bomb does go off, the reaction is "Our govt.
should have been aware of that." I don't understand how you can have
it both ways.

gloria p

"gloria.p" wrote:
>
> On 3/6/2011 8:49 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
> > In >,
> > lid says...
> >>
> >> On 3/6/2011 12:54 AM, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
> >>> I was in the checkout line at the market when a guy asks the checker,
> >>> "Where's the ammonia?" The checker says, "I don't think we carry that
> >>> anymore." The checker looks to the ass't. manager, who's bagging
> >>> groceries, for confirmation. "Yeah," the ass't. manager says, "it can
> >>> be used to make bombs, so we don't carry it anymore."
> >>>
>
> >
> > Our government has gone nuts.
> >
>
> I sympathize, but when a bomb does go off, the reaction is "Our govt.
> should have been aware of that." I don't understand how you can have
> it both ways.

That reaction is that the government should have been aware of the plot,
not that the government should have restricted items used. It's the same
with guns as in the recent Arizona incident, restricting guns wouldn't
have made a damned bit of difference*, paying attention to the clearly
unstable person would have.

* If guns were not accessible, the perp could have just as easily driven
a truck into the crowd, firebombed the crowed with a gasoline based
bomb, or any number of other attack options with equally high
casualties.

In article >,
says...
>
> On 3/6/2011 8:49 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
> > In >,
> > lid says...
> >>
> >> On 3/6/2011 12:54 AM, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
> >>> I was in the checkout line at the market when a guy asks the checker,
> >>> "Where's the ammonia?" The checker says, "I don't think we carry that
> >>> anymore." The checker looks to the ass't. manager, who's bagging
> >>> groceries, for confirmation. "Yeah," the ass't. manager says, "it can
> >>> be used to make bombs, so we don't carry it anymore."
> >>>
>
> >
> > Our government has gone nuts.
> >
>
>
> I sympathize, but when a bomb does go off, the reaction is "Our govt.
> should have been aware of that." I don't understand how you can have
> it both ways.

My reaction has never been "our government should have been aware of
that". Anyone with a realistic view of law enforcement understands that
it is by its nature reactive. Banning everything under the sun because
it might be used in a crime eventually leads to our running around naked
in the woods, at which point we all get arrested for indecent exposure.

On Mar 7, 6:46*am, "J. Clarke" > wrote:

>
> My reaction has never been "our government should have been aware of
> that". *Anyone with a realistic view of law enforcement understands that
> it is by its nature reactive. *Banning everything under the sun because
> it might be used in a crime eventually leads to our running around naked
> in the woods, at which point we all get arrested for indecent exposure. *

We have limits on some things that can be used to make drugs. Certain
things are also kept behind the counter and require ID. But they are
still available.

On Sat, 05 Mar 2011 21:54:46 -0800 in rec.food.cooking, Terry
Pulliam Burd > wrote,
>I was in the checkout line at the market when a guy asks the checker,
>"Where's the ammonia?" The checker says, "I don't think we carry that
>anymore." The checker looks to the ass't. manager, who's bagging
>groceries, for confirmation. "Yeah," the ass't. manager says, "it can
>be used to make bombs, so we don't carry it anymore."
>
>You have to be kidding me. You HAVE to be kidding me. What's next?

Flour. Have you heard of Fuel/Air Explosives? (FAE) You blow a
large cloud of flour into the air, a primary explosive is convenient
but compressed air will do the job. Then you ignite it. Boom.
Big-badda-boom.

Grain elevators have to be extremely careful it doesn't happen to
them by accident.

As soon as Diane Feinstein or Charles Schumer hear about this, you
won't be able to buy flour in the store any more. So please, nobody
mention it to them. Good thing they are illiterate.

On 3/5/2011 10:54 PM, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
> I was in the checkout line at the market when a guy asks the checker,
> "Where's the ammonia?" The checker says, "I don't think we carry that
> anymore." The checker looks to the ass't. manager, who's bagging
> groceries, for confirmation. "Yeah," the ass't. manager says, "it can
> be used to make bombs, so we don't carry it anymore."
>
> You have to be kidding me. You HAVE to be kidding me. What's next? You
> can't get fertilizer at Home Depot?
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
>
> --
>


A recent bomb plot was foiled when a Colorado beauty shop supply store
reported a man buying large amounts of peroxide. I guess bottle blondes
will be more rare in the future.

gloria p

Sqwertz > wrote:

>On Sun, 06 Mar 2011 12:18:08 -0700, gloria.p wrote:

>> A recent bomb plot was foiled when a Colorado beauty shop supply store
>> reported a man buying large amounts of peroxide. I guess bottle blondes
>> will be more rare in the future.

>You can buy that anywhere. Why go to a beauty supply store where it
>costs twice as much?

Hypothesis: LEO's have relationships with Wal-Mart, Home Depot, etc.
wherein suspicious purchases get reported. The perps thought a beauty
supply shop would be under the radar and unlikely to report the purchase.
(But they were wrong in this instance.)



Steve

Sqwertz wrote:
>
> On Sun, 06 Mar 2011 12:18:08 -0700, gloria.p wrote:
>
> > A recent bomb plot was foiled when a Colorado beauty shop supply store
> > reported a man buying large amounts of peroxide. I guess bottle blondes
> > will be more rare in the future.
>
> You can buy that anywhere. Why go to t a beauty supply store where it
> costs twice as much?
>
> The story sounds weird. But criminals aren't always smart.

The ones that get caught, anyway. You never hear
about the smart ones.

On 3/6/2011 10:43 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
> Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 06 Mar 2011 12:18:08 -0700, gloria.p wrote:
>>
>>> A recent bomb plot was foiled when a Colorado beauty shop supply store
>>> reported a man buying large amounts of peroxide. I guess bottle blondes
>>> will be more rare in the future.
>>
>> You can buy that anywhere. Why go to t a beauty supply store where it
>> costs twice as much?
>>
>> The story sounds weird. But criminals aren't always smart.
>
> The ones that get caught, anyway. You never hear
> about the smart ones.

Sometimes we do but due to the nature of our corrupt political system
where they do the bidding of the people who deliver the biggest payments
we even have rewards programs for criminals.

Remember not so very long ago folks in the financial sector without
moral compasses who were overtly screwing everyone else got bailed out
by us?

On Sun, 6 Mar 2011 19:14:40 -0600 in rec.food.cooking, Sqwertz
> wrote,
>On Sun, 06 Mar 2011 12:18:08 -0700, gloria.p wrote:
>
>> A recent bomb plot was foiled when a Colorado beauty shop supply store
>> reported a man buying large amounts of peroxide. I guess bottle blondes
>> will be more rare in the future.
>
>You can buy that anywhere. Why go to t a beauty supply store where it
>costs twice as much?

What concentration do you get at the beauty supply? What
concentration do you get "anywhere"?

On Sun, 6 Mar 2011 22:08:44 -0600 in rec.food.cooking, Sqwertz
> wrote,
>On Sun, 06 Mar 2011 19:57:11 -0800, David Harmon wrote:
>>
>> What concentration do you get at the beauty supply? What
>> concentration do you get "anywhere"?
>
>I don't know. Do you? My bottle is 6%. Makes a great Gin Fizz.

No, I don't, but it is my vague impression that peroxide used for
hair bleach is much stronger than the grocery/pharmacy version.

On 3/6/2011 6:14 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sun, 06 Mar 2011 12:18:08 -0700, gloria.p wrote:
>
>> A recent bomb plot was foiled when a Colorado beauty shop supply store
>> reported a man buying large amounts of peroxide. I guess bottle blondes
>> will be more rare in the future.
>
> You can buy that anywhere. Why go to t a beauty supply store where it
> costs twice as much?
>
> The story sounds weird. But criminals aren't always smart.
>
> -sw



Because he was looking for gallons of it.

gloria p

On Mar 5, 11:54*pm, Terry Pulliam Burd > wrote:
> I was in the checkout line at the market when a guy asks the checker,
> "Where's the ammonia?" The checker says, "I don't think we carry that
> anymore." The checker looks to the ass't. manager, who's bagging
> groceries, for confirmation. "Yeah," the ass't. manager says, "it can
> be used to make bombs, so we don't carry it anymore."
>
> You have to be kidding me. You HAVE to be kidding me. What's next? You
> can't get fertilizer at Home Depot?

That's just plain ridiculous. I just watched a show about Ted
Kaczynski last night and ammonia wasn't mentioned even once!

In article >, ost
says...

>
> The net effect of banning all those household chemicals here means
> that production moved to Mexico where they can manufacture it really
> cheap and twice as strong in dedicated labs (prior to that
> manufacturing took place in hotel bathtubs).
>
> We outsource our drug production and then we wonder why the drug
> cartels are so powerful and violent.
>
> -sw

Let them make it there, I don't want anybody mixing that shit up in my
neighborhood...

On Mar 6, 1:31*pm, I_am_Tosk > wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>
>
>
> > The net effect of banning all those household chemicals here means
> > that production moved to Mexico where they can manufacture it really
> > cheap and twice as strong in dedicated labs (prior to that
> > manufacturing took place in hotel bathtubs). *
>
> > We outsource our drug production and then we wonder why the drug
> > cartels are so powerful and violent.
>
> > -sw
>
> Let them make it there, I don't want anybody mixing that shit up in my
> neighborhood...

That's nice, but if dope production were legal it would be
manufactured in safe factories/labs. Making stuff like that by
someone non-licensed should still be a crime since chemistryfying it
at home would be dangerous.

On 3/6/2011 1:12 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sat, 05 Mar 2011 21:54:46 -0800, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>
>> I was in the checkout line at the market when a guy asks the checker,
>> "Where's the ammonia?" The checker says, "I don't think we carry that
>> anymore." The checker looks to the ass't. manager, who's bagging
>> groceries, for confirmation. "Yeah," the ass't. manager says, "it can
>> be used to make bombs, so we don't carry it anymore."
>>
>> You have to be kidding me. You HAVE to be kidding me. What's next? You
>> can't get fertilizer at Home Depot?
>>
>> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
>
> Ammonia and lye were both removed from the shelves around the same
> time you had to ask for pseudoephedrine and now sign for it. What do
> they all have in common? Methamphetamine production.
>
> I bought some pseudo yesterday for the first time since the ban and I
> has to electronically sign something that said "I have read and
> acknowledge the PSE agreement". I asked what it was and the pharmacy
> guy wasn't sure. I asked for a copy and they didn't have one. I
> signed it anyway.
>
> The net effect of banning all those household chemicals here means
> that production moved to Mexico where they can manufacture it really
> cheap and twice as strong in dedicated labs (prior to that
> manufacturing took place in hotel bathtubs).
>
> We outsource our drug production and then we wonder why the drug
> cartels are so powerful and violent.
>
> -sw

None of that is going away until the "esteemed pillars of the community"
stop using drugs. We just want to pretend we are doing something by
making an occasional arrest of "average" folks...

The standing joke here is the local judge who handles most of the drug
cases. He does his best to keep the economy going in Columbia and
wherever else they grow the stuff while getting his face in every photo
op for being "tough on drug offenders".

On Sun, 6 Mar 2011 12:12:34 -0600, Sqwertz >
arranged random neurons and said:

>Ammonia and lye were both removed from the shelves around the same
>time you had to ask for pseudoephedrine and now sign for it. What do
>they all have in common? Methamphetamine production.
>
>I bought some pseudo yesterday for the first time since the ban and I
>has to electronically sign something that said "I have read and
>acknowledge the PSE agreement". I asked what it was and the pharmacy
>guy wasn't sure. I asked for a copy and they didn't have one. I
>signed it anyway.
>
>The net effect of banning all those household chemicals here means
>that production moved to Mexico where they can manufacture it really
>cheap and twice as strong in dedicated labs (prior to that
>manufacturing took place in hotel bathtubs).
>
>We outsource our drug production and then we wonder why the drug
>cartels are so powerful and violent.

<Pulling on asbestos britches.>

I am all for making what are now illegal drug manufacture and
consumption legal. Consider it a Darwinian spin to our national
economic health. The drugs could be made in the open in FDA approved
laboratories with FDA supervision, paying taxes, Social Security, the
whole deal. Crime-for-Crack would be down, the real whack jobs could
off themselves faster, and we could empty out a *huge* chunk of
California's prison population.

OB: A warmed glass of cognac after a really great meal is about all
the drug buzz I need.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

--

To reply, remove "spambot" and replace it with "cox"

In article >,
"l, not -l" > wrote:

> On 5-Mar-2011, Terry Pulliam Burd > wrote:
>
> > I was in the checkout line at the market when a guy asks the checker,
> > "Where's the ammonia?" The checker says, "I don't think we carry that
> > anymore." The checker looks to the ass't. manager, who's bagging
> > groceries, for confirmation. "Yeah," the ass't. manager says, "it can
> > be used to make bombs, so we don't carry it anymore."
> >
> > You have to be kidding me. You HAVE to be kidding me. What's next? You
> > can't get fertilizer at Home Depot?
>
> Apparently a local decision by the store or chain management. I regularly
> use ammonia for cleaning tasks so made a point after reading this to look
> when I went shopping today. Here (St. Louis suburb), you can get all the
> ammonia you want; readily available in three varieties (clear, sudsy and
> lemony fresh) in gallon containers on a bottom shelf in the laundry aisle.

I'm suspecting a misunderstanding by the bagger, er, I mean the ass.
manager. :-)

http://students.law.drake.edu/agLawJ...l04No2-Sinnard

"The author of this Note discusses the use of fertilizers in the illegal
production of methamphetamine ("meth") and explosives. Fertilizer
appeals in use for criminal activity for carrying out meth production
and domestic terrorism. The appeal of both ammonium nitrate in
explosives and anhydrous ammonia to facilitate methamphetamine
production has created an illegal market for these fertilizers."

Ammonium nitrate fertilizer was used in the Oklahoma City bombing, which
killed 168 people and caused an estimated US$652 million in damage.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

On Mar 6, 8:26*pm, Dan Abel > wrote:
> In article >,
> *"l, not -l" > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On *5-Mar-2011, Terry Pulliam Burd > wrote:
>
> > > I was in the checkout line at the market when a guy asks the checker,
> > > "Where's the ammonia?" The checker says, "I don't think we carry that
> > > anymore." The checker looks to the ass't. manager, who's bagging
> > > groceries, for confirmation. "Yeah," the ass't. manager says, "it can
> > > be used to make bombs, so we don't carry it anymore."
>
> > > You have to be kidding me. You HAVE to be kidding me. What's next? You
> > > can't get fertilizer at Home Depot?
>
> > Apparently a local decision by the store or chain management. * I regularly
> > use ammonia for cleaning tasks so made a point after reading this to look
> > when I went shopping today. *Here (St. Louis suburb), you can get all the
> > ammonia you want; readily available in three varieties (clear, sudsy and
> > lemony fresh) in gallon containers on a bottom shelf in the laundry aisle.
>
> I'm suspecting a misunderstanding by the bagger, er, I mean the ass.
> manager. * :-)
>
> http://students.law.drake.edu/agLawJ...l04No2-Sinnard
>
> "The author of this Note discusses the use of fertilizers in the illegal
> production of methamphetamine ("meth") and explosives. Fertilizer
> appeals in use for criminal activity for carrying out meth production
> and domestic terrorism. The appeal of both ammonium nitrate in
> explosives and anhydrous ammonia to facilitate methamphetamine
> production has created an illegal market for these fertilizers."
>

Household ammonia is very much "hydrous," obviously.