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When you buy sushi in the United States, does the ingredients come
from Japan or it most of it grown or harvested in the United States. Thanks Tom |
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Tom wrote
> When you buy sushi in the United States, does the ingredients come > from Japan or it most of it grown or harvested in the United States. It depends but mostly it's local grown Texas or California rice, local fresh veggies and seafoods off our own shores. IE: mostly USA stuff. Sushi is a recipe. Nothing in it need come from Japan. The most likely 'import' is the nori (seaweed) wrapper and that can come from several countries including northern Europe. |
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"Steve Pope" wrote
> A large fraction of "sushi grade" fish is trans-shipped through Tokyo, > where there is gigantic wholesale sushi-fish market. Interesting but not supported by facts. > Not sure about the rice and seaweed. The seaweed may come from several places, including USA and Japan but also northern Europe. My current nori is from Canada, Newfoundland. The rice is from California. The sushi vinegar is from California and the soybeans from Virginia as are the ginger pickled slivers. The 'wasabi' isnt real wasabi but it tastes fine and comes from NY. I'd be very suprised if any part of a sushi bought in the USA or Canada, came from Japan other than perhaps the nori *might*. BTW, 'sushi' is a rice item and it may or may not use fish as all. What you meant above was 'sashimi grade fish' (fish of a quality to be eaten raw) and even there, in the USA you are generally getting 'local' wild caught or in salmon, may be farm raised. |
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cshenk > wrote:
>"Steve Pope" wrote >> A large fraction of "sushi grade" fish is trans-shipped through Tokyo, >> where there is gigantic wholesale sushi-fish market. >Interesting but not supported by facts. Look up Tsukiji Fish Market. >I'd be very suprised if any part of a sushi bought in the USA or Canada, >came from Japan other than perhaps the nori *might*. In Berkeley, Tokyo Fish Market sells all sorts of sushi grade fish labeled as being from Japan, Vietnam, and New Zealand, as well as more nearby places like Hawaii and Canada. I seem to recall a lot of the farmed fish is from Japan. (Note that fish from, say, Vietnam may have made a stopover in Tokyo. I believe only the country of origin must be identified, not intermediate countries.) Steve |
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On 3/19/2011 8:28 PM, cshenk wrote:
> "Steve Pope" wrote > >> A large fraction of "sushi grade" fish is trans-shipped through Tokyo, >> where there is gigantic wholesale sushi-fish market. > > Interesting but not supported by facts. > >> Not sure about the rice and seaweed. > > The seaweed may come from several places, including USA and Japan but > also northern Europe. My current nori is from Canada, Newfoundland. The > rice is from California. The sushi vinegar is from California and the > soybeans from Virginia as are the ginger pickled slivers. The 'wasabi' > isnt real wasabi but it tastes fine and comes from NY. > > I'd be very suprised if any part of a sushi bought in the USA or Canada, > came from Japan other than perhaps the nori *might*. > > BTW, 'sushi' is a rice item and it may or may not use fish as all. What > you meant above was 'sashimi grade fish' (fish of a quality to be eaten > raw) and even there, in the USA you are generally getting 'local' wild > caught or in salmon, may be farm raised. Yes, in the US a lot of sashimi grade tuna comes right from the coast of LI. My buddies business partner likes to fish and actually makes a nice extra income fishing for tuna which are immediately sold whole off the docks. |
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"Steve Pope" wrote
> cshenk wrote: >>> A large fraction of "sushi grade" fish is trans-shipped through Tokyo, >>> where there is gigantic wholesale sushi-fish market. >>Interesting but not supported by facts. > Look up Tsukiji Fish Market. Big market, doesn't happen to be involved in fish sold in the USA. >>I'd be very suprised if any part of a sushi bought in the USA or Canada, >>came from Japan other than perhaps the nori *might*. > > In Berkeley, Tokyo Fish Market sells all sorts of sushi grade fish > labeled as being from Japan, Vietnam, and New Zealand, as well as more > nearby places like Hawaii and Canada. I seem to recall a lot of the > farmed fish is from Japan. Ah, snooty Berkely. Paying markup for frozen sashimi grade from Tokyo. Got it. The farmed fish would be from the Philippenes largely. > (Note that fish from, say, Vietnam may have made a stopover > in Tokyo. I believe only the country of origin must be identified, > not intermediate countries.) Steve, the local Sasebo Japan fish market I used if you account for the size of the town, is bigger percentage wise. Because of it's shipping location, you are far more likely to have had fish shipped from there if you ever had any fish from actual Japan. Look at a map, Sasebo is a more likely stopover for most of what you mention. Tokyo for one *is on the wrong side* of a long large island. What they do from Korea and Vietnam is take a speed boat to Fukuoka (3-6 hours depending on location) then train to Sasebo (2 hours) and ship out. |
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"George" wrote
> cshenk wrote: >> "Steve Pope" wrote >>> A large fraction of "sushi grade" fish is trans-shipped through Tokyo, >>> where there is gigantic wholesale sushi-fish market. >> >> Interesting but not supported by facts. >> BTW, 'sushi' is a rice item and it may or may not use fish as all. What >> you meant above was 'sashimi grade fish' (fish of a quality to be eaten >> raw) and even there, in the USA you are generally getting 'local' wild >> caught or in salmon, may be farm raised. > > Yes, in the US a lot of sashimi grade tuna comes right from the coast of > LI. My buddies business partner likes to fish and actually makes a nice > extra income fishing for tuna which are immediately sold whole off the > docks. Yup. They ship it up here to Norfolk area too. We've got a good market as well for the sea bass and some other things which seem mostly locally caught wild. Either way, there's traditional confusion that sashimi = sushi when it doesnt. Something like 60% of the sushi types are vegetarian. Only about 10% use raw fish. |
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> wrote in message
... > When you buy sushi in the United States, does the ingredients come > from Japan or it most of it grown or harvested in the United States. > > Thanks > > Tom Usually. Rice - local USA Vinegar powder - Japan Seaweed - Asia not necessarily Japan Egg -local Fish - local USA or imported. Shellfish - local USA or imported. Veggies - local Dimitri |
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tombates wrote:
> > When you buy sushi in the United States, do the ingredients come > from Japan or is most of it grown or harvested in the United States. Yes... from Walmartharu. http://www.walmart.com/ip/2417762 |
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On Mar 21, 11:24 am, "Dimitri" > wrote:
> Vinegar powder - Japan Ah! I learned something today! Thanks, Dimitri! I didn't even know there was such stuff. Why does this interest me? Because as much as I like the sushi I get at good Japanese places, and as much as I like my own work (done with traditional (liquid) rice vinegar), there is *something* about mass-produced grocery-store sushi that appeals to me. Not the texture or the flavor of the (sometimes less than perfectly fresh?) sashimi, but something in the sushi itself. And I'll betcha that vinegar *powder* is it! Will scrounge some and try it! (Should I go for the "glow-in-the-dark" version or plain? :-) ) -- Silvar Beitel |
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cshenk wrote:
> > The 'wasabi' isnt real wasabi > but it tastes fine and comes from NY. Most of the green stuff at sushi places is actually made from horseradish and then it has some coloring and chemicals added to it to make it taste different. Because wasabi and horseradish have the same main active chemical it works as long as you never have real wasabi and straight horseradish side by side. Once I have real wasabi (I watched the chef grate it) and straight horseradish (I watched the chef grate it) side by side on otherwise identical fish dishes. The difference was obvious side by side. That's not the same thing as saying I could tell if I were to taste some green stuff today several years later and be able to tell on its own. The fake wasabi isn't a bad immitation. |
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Doug Freyburger > wrote:
>Most of the green stuff at sushi places is actually made from >horseradish and then it has some coloring and chemicals added to it to >make it taste different. Because wasabi and horseradish have the same >main active chemical it works as long as you never have real wasabi and >straight horseradish side by side. I'm not sure most imitation wasabi has "chemicals". The most common flavoring ingredient besides horseradish is spirulina. And an increasing number of such products have some real wasabi in them. I actually like the spirulina flavor. Steve |
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On 3/21/2011 12:25 PM, Silvar Beitel wrote:
> Why does this interest me? > > Because as much as I like the sushi I get at good Japanese places, and > as much as I like my own work (done with traditional (liquid) rice > vinegar), there is *something* about mass-produced grocery-store sushi > that appeals to me. Not the texture or the flavor of the (sometimes > less than perfectly fresh?) sashimi, but something in the sushi > itself. And I'll betcha that vinegar *powder* is it! > > Will scrounge some and try it! > > (Should I go for the "glow-in-the-dark" version or plain? :-) ) > > -- > Silvar Beitel Kroger sells sushi, you can watch them make it, slice it and plate it. My favorite is called the Red River Roll. They stick a label on it that says it is spicy and they are right. I love it. Becca |
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