On 2011-03-31, Ranée at Arabian Knits > wrote:

> I am not naive. I do not think it is impossible to happen in our
> country or others. However, the evidence is very largely against, say,
> Purina deliberately putting melamine in their puppy chow.

You must have proof. Mind sharing it with us?

I notice you've conveniently ignored the factual examples about US
history I'm mentioned and continue to harp on the Chinese. OK.

Let's take hummus as an example. Where do you get your chickpeas
from? Are they GMO? How do you know? What herbicides, insecticides,
fertilizers are used on them. What are the possible side effects?
How do you know?

Bottom line, you don't. You think you know what the press has told
you. Who tipped them off? Why hasn't the press been as diligent
about the educating US consumers about the 80% of some US crops that
are GMOs? Why was Oprah sued by the Beef Council? Why are stores no
longer advertising non-rBGH milk?

You are beyond naive, you are selectively blind!

OTOH, I've got all the stuff to make yer hummus and look forward to
it, polluted as it may be.

nb

On 2011-03-31, Ranée at Arabian Knits > wrote:

> Because Monsanto is running the FDA and USDA. Because politicians in
> both major parties owe campaigns to Monsanto. Because our Supreme Court
> made it legal to trademark and copyright life. Because the USDA is not
> about what is good for Americans, but what is good for AgriBusiness.

OK!! There are two flax/knit Ranee's running around here and I want
it to stop!

nb

notbob > wrote:

>Let's take hummus as an example. Where do you get your chickpeas
>from? Are they GMO? How do you know? What herbicides, insecticides,
>fertilizers are used on them. What are the possible side effects?
>How do you know?

>Bottom line, you don't.

That's silly. If they are organic, they are not GMO and there
have not been pesticides used on the crop of beans, or on
the land they were grown on for a specified length of time.
And this is controlled/certified by the appropriate process.
The process may be imperfect, but it is not valueless to the
point that you "don't know".


Steve

On 3/31/2011 8:24 AM, Sky wrote:
> On 3/31/2011 1:03 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On 3/31/2011 12:17 AM, Nad R wrote:
>>
>>> Shark and bug foods like like lobster, shrimp also other posters
>>> claim of
>>> crawfish and eels, seems like the only seafood one can get. Hard to
>>> imagine
>>> the oceans are practically fished out. In Michigan, if the DNR did not
>>> stock the great lakes, they would not have any fish in five years. So if
>>> you want fish these days it seems pond scum fish from Asia or nothing
>>> because supermarkets in the US will not buy fish from it's own country.
>>>
>>> I noticed even on some bags of Asian Tilapia, the bag states "Carbon
>>> Monoxide Added For Flavor"? I even learned US companies do the same
>>> thing
>>> and do not put that information on the bag.
>>
>> Carbon monoxide is typically used to treat ahi to keep the flesh a
>> bright red color and therefore allow it a longer window of opportunity
>> of sale in the US. CO is mostly known as a killer of families as they
>> sleep in the states or as a suicide gas in Japan so "odorless smoke" or
>> "tasteless smoke" is what they call it here. As far as I know, the
>> practice is illegal in Japan but the FDA allows it here.
>>
>> Tilapia is mostly a white fish so my guess is that the effect is not as
>> dramatic as when treating ahi however, it might be that most of the
>> tilapia from China is treated with CO. The gas itself is harmless when
>> used in this application. OTOH, it gives the impression that the fish is
>> fresher than it really is. OTOH, tilapia is a pretty generic whitefish
>> and I suspect that it's mostly treated as a commodity item.
>
> I understand some big-box stores like wallyworld pump carbon monoxide in
> the packaging of their "fresh" meats (beef, pork, etc.) to keep the
> color pristine for a longer period of time. Ever notice how those
> packages are constructed?? Somehow, using CO seems suspect to me when
> it's used for this particular purpose.

I have not heard that CO is used on anything but fish but my guess is
that it would probably work. It even works on humans - the main
indicator of CO poisoning is cherry red lips. I has seen vacuum packed
ahi that's obviously been treated with the gas because of it's
unnaturally bright red color.

>
> Shopping at wallyworld is something I try to avoid for various reasons,
> poor quality meats being one of those. Not to mention, their produce is
> some of the worst I've seen - ever!
>
> Sky
>

On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 18:25:41 +0000 (UTC),
(Steve Pope) wrote:

>Lou Decruss > wrote:
>
>>On 31 Mar 2011 18:04:18 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
>>>On 2011-03-31, Ranee at Arabian Knits > wrote:
>
>>>
>>>> I thought it was federal, maybe it's state. All our food is labeled
>>>> by country of origin, produce tags have it, meat and fish has it, frozen
>>>> veggies and fruit have it.
>>>
>>>But it's illegal to label whether or not it's GMO (genetically
>>>modified organisms). Why!?
>
>>Is it illegal or just not necessary because they're considered alike?
>
>I see plenty of foods labeled "non GMO". Furthermore, in the U.S.
>food labeled organic cannot be GMO.

Yes but if it's GMO and not labeled organic I don't think it has to be
disclosed.

Lou

Lou Decruss > wrote:

>(Steve Pope) wrote:

>>I see plenty of foods labeled "non GMO". Furthermore, in the U.S.
>>food labeled organic cannot be GMO.

>Yes but if it's GMO and not labeled organic I don't think it has to be
>disclosed.

This is correct. Same with irradiated.


Steve

In article -
september.org>, says...
>
> In article >,
> notbob > wrote:
>
> > On 2011-03-31, Ranee at Arabian Knits > wrote:
> >
> >
> > > I thought it was federal, maybe it's state. All our food is labeled
> > > by country of origin, produce tags have it, meat and fish has it, frozen
> > > veggies and fruit have it.
> >
> > But it's illegal to label whether or not it's GMO (genetically
> > modified organisms). Why!?
>
> Because Monsanto is running the FDA and USDA. Because politicians in
> both major parties owe campaigns to Monsanto. Because our Supreme Court
> made it legal to trademark and copyright life. Because the USDA is not
> about what is good for Americans, but what is good for AgriBusiness.

Exactly. Unlike Europe, where consumers kicked up such a fuss they
forced a change in food labelling, requiring GM ingredients to be
identified.

http://www.food.gov.uk/gmfoods/gm/gm_labelling

Janet.

In article >,
says...
>
> Yikes! I better quit feeding Dinky, who has eaten Purina foods for his
> entire 13 years of life, that nasty stuff! hehe, just yanking your
> chain, Ranée. My other cat, Bammers, who also ate Purina his entire
> life, lived in great health for 19 years.
>
> I think, IMHO, the negativity behind Purina's so-called contamination
> is just nonsense spread by their competitors.
>
> Have you any cites for this Purina contamination from anyone who lists
> the testing done? I'd be very interested to read them.


http://www.fda.gov/animalveterinary/...drawals/ucm129
575.htm

or

http://tinyurl.com/y8sl6ty

Janet

On 31 Mar 2011 18:02:25 GMT, notbob > wrote:

> On 2011-03-31, Janet > wrote:
>
> > The alternative, is properly managed, ethical fish farming. Just like
> > properly managed, ethical meat production. The bottom line is that
> > consumers need to educate themselves about how their food is produced and
> > shop accordingly.The market depends on us.
>
> Sic 'em, Janet! Common sense is a disappearing commodity.
>
Yeah? So why aren't you farming fish then?


--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 19:53:32 +0100, Janet > wrote:

>In article >,
says...
>>
>> Yikes! I better quit feeding Dinky, who has eaten Purina foods for his
>> entire 13 years of life, that nasty stuff! hehe, just yanking your
>> chain, Ranée. My other cat, Bammers, who also ate Purina his entire
>> life, lived in great health for 19 years.
>>
>> I think, IMHO, the negativity behind Purina's so-called contamination
>> is just nonsense spread by their competitors.
>>
>> Have you any cites for this Purina contamination from anyone who lists
>> the testing done? I'd be very interested to read them.
>
>
>http://www.fda.gov/animalveterinary/...drawals/ucm129
>575.htm
>
>or
>
>http://tinyurl.com/y8sl6ty
>
>Janet

The link has no mention of Purina unless its in the multitude of links
within the page.

I asked specifically for data that supports the *Purina* scare as
being exclusive to any other brand.

Do any of those other links mention Purina specifically?

On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 10:07:33 -0700, Ranée at Arabian Knits
> wrote:

>In article >,
> notbob > wrote:
>
>> Sure, talapia is a poor substitute for cod,
>> but eating it ain't gonna turn our oceans into a sterile wasteland
>> that will end life as we know it on this floating rock.
>
> Again, why eat a poor substitute? I'd rather have no fish than bad
>fish.
>
>Regards,
>Ranee @ Arabian Knits
>
That would be a good choice then for you. Eat no fish. I cannot
trust you to be an arbiter of my taste, nor should you insist that
anything other than what you like is the only thing that is good.

Janet

On Mar 31, 10:37*am, Landon > wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 04:20:14 -0700 (PDT), Bryan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > wrote:
> >On Mar 30, 10:54*pm, Landon > wrote:
> >> On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 17:23:40 -0700 (PDT), Bryan
> >> > wrote:
> >> >On Mar 30, 6:10*pm, Landon > wrote:
> >> >> On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 16:02:34 -0800, Mark Thorson >
> >> >> wrote:
>
> >> >> >Landon wrote:
>
> >> >> >> Tilapia is a very mild tasting fish. Similar in strength of flavor to
> >> >> >> flounder.
>
> >> >> >It also has an odd texture, not like most other fish.
> >> >> >As I recall, it's sort of grainy. *I think I only made it
> >> >> >once.
>
> >> >> I've never noticed any graininess to the meat, but it is, IMO, very
> >> >> firm meat. Simply awesome for fried fish sandwiches. I had some just
> >> >> last week.
>
> >> >We have fried tilapia about once a week. *If I were a millionaire I
> >> >might choose a different fish, but I'm not, and tilapia is just fine,
> >> >salted, peppered, shaken in a bag with corn meal, fried in peanut oil
> >> >and served with halved lemons.
> >> >Tonight was taco night.
>
> >> I use canola oil and a half-half mix of flour and corn meal with my
> >> favorite seasonings. Tilapia is a great frying fish too. Catfish is my
> >> favorite sandwich fish, but the prices on those two switch places
> >> every other week here. I buy which ever one is the best deal.
>
> >That's fine if you're one of the folks who finds canola neutral.
> >Unfortunately, I don't. *The reason that I don't use part flour or
> >masa is that you end up with less of the crunchy stuff, which may or
> >may not be desirable depending on one's preference.
>
> I taste the Canola, but the flavor of it is one that is acceptable to
> me when mixed with various foods.
>
> I love *some* cornmeal crunch, but not when its used exclusively as a
> coating. I found the half and half mix with flour gives me the best of
> both worlds.
>
> Isn't it cool how we all have different tastes? It makes recipes much
> more fun.

I wish that I liked the taste of canola. It's even healthier than
peanut, and cheaper than olive.

--Bryan

In article >,
says...
>
> On 31 Mar 2011 18:02:25 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
> > On 2011-03-31, Janet > wrote:
> >
> > > The alternative, is properly managed, ethical fish farming. Just like
> > > properly managed, ethical meat production. The bottom line is that
> > > consumers need to educate themselves about how their food is produced and
> > > shop accordingly.The market depends on us.
> >
> > Sic 'em, Janet! Common sense is a disappearing commodity.
> >
> Yeah? So why aren't you farming fish then?

No need; I live on an island off Scotland.

Janet.

On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 10:11:25 -0700, Ranee at Arabian Knits
> wrote:

>In article >,
> Janet Bostwick > wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 19:08:17 -0800, Mark Thorson >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Janet Bostwick wrote:
>> >
>> >> But, who eats fish from Asia?
>> >
>> >Anybody who eats fried fish from a fast food place,
>> >such as fish-and-chips.
>> >
>> >Many people who eat fish at a sit-down restaurant.
>> >
>>
>>
>> Let me put it another way. I would never buy fish from Asia. Better?
>> I read labels at the grocery store. Don't you?
>
> Some people also ask about the fish at restaurants and only order
>wild caught American or Canadian.
>
>Regards,
>Ranee @ Arabian Knits
>
>We simply do not eat out as I can prepare better and I know all the ingredients that I have selected.
Janet

On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 16:31:11 +0100, Janet > wrote:

>In article >, says...
>>
>> Janet Bostwick wrote:
>> >
>> > But, who eats fish from Asia?
>> > Janet
>>
>> Not if I can help it.
>
> If you eat prawns, best read the label
>
> Janet

I do and I do.
Janet

On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:22:33 +0100, Janet > wrote:

> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > On 31 Mar 2011 18:02:25 GMT, notbob > wrote:
> >
> > > On 2011-03-31, Janet > wrote:
> > >
> > > > The alternative, is properly managed, ethical fish farming. Just like
> > > > properly managed, ethical meat production. The bottom line is that
> > > > consumers need to educate themselves about how their food is produced and
> > > > shop accordingly.The market depends on us.
> > >
> > > Sic 'em, Janet! Common sense is a disappearing commodity.
> > >
> > Yeah? So why aren't you farming fish then?
>
> No need; I live on an island off Scotland.
>
Contributing to over fishing.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

In article >,
says...
>
> On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 19:53:32 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>
> >In article >,
> says...
> >>
> >> Yikes! I better quit feeding Dinky, who has eaten Purina foods for his
> >> entire 13 years of life, that nasty stuff! hehe, just yanking your
> >> chain, Ranée. My other cat, Bammers, who also ate Purina his entire
> >> life, lived in great health for 19 years.
> >>
> >> I think, IMHO, the negativity behind Purina's so-called contamination
> >> is just nonsense spread by their competitors.
> >>
> >> Have you any cites for this Purina contamination from anyone who lists
> >> the testing done? I'd be very interested to read them.
> >
> >
> >http://www.fda.gov/animalveterinary/...drawals/ucm129
> >575.htm
> >
> >or
> >
> >http://tinyurl.com/y8sl6ty
> >
> >Janet
>
> The link has no mention of Purina unless its in the multitude of links
> within the page.
>
> I asked specifically for data that supports the *Purina* scare as
> being exclusive to any other brand.
>
> Do any of those other links mention Purina specifically?

Yes. The FDA lists all affected brands.
Would you like a splint for your finger?

Janet

In article -
september.org>, says...
>
> In article >,
> notbob > wrote:
>
> > On 2011-03-31, Ranee at Arabian Knits > wrote:
> >
> > > I've yet to have it firm and delicate.
> >
> > "firm and delicate"!?
> >
> > Name one meat that meets that criteria.
>
> You seem rather angry over this. I'm not the person who claimed
> Tilapia was firm and delicate.

I said, it had a firm texture and delicate taste. That's fresh tilapia,
not in the USA and not frozen.

Janet.

On 3/31/2011 3:15 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 10:07:33 -0700, Ranée at Arabian Knits
> > wrote:
>
>> In >,
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Sure, talapia is a poor substitute for cod,
>>> but eating it ain't gonna turn our oceans into a sterile wasteland
>>> that will end life as we know it on this floating rock.
>>
>> Again, why eat a poor substitute? I'd rather have no fish than bad
>> fish.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ranee @ Arabian Knits
>>
> That would be a good choice then for you. Eat no fish. I cannot
> trust you to be an arbiter of my taste, nor should you insist that
> anything other than what you like is the only thing that is good.


Who, born in the first part of the last century, would have thought that
sea fish like cod would cost more than steak? I also remember skate,
which was practically given away, is highly prized nowadays. Come to
think of it, kippers (smoked herring) were very inexpensive when I was
young.


--


James Silverton, Potomac

I'm "not"

> AFAIC, tilapia is a rather bland fish. I especially like it
> (uncoated) in soft shell fish tacos.
>

For fish tacos, I put the fillets in a pan with a little EVOO and
butter, dust the tops with some cumin and Mexican oregano and saute.
Then flip and do the same to the other side.

Sometimes I put a tiny bit of Santa Fe chili powder on too.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 11:53:47 -0400, Landon > wrote:

>On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 06:17:58 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:
>
>>Back in the 60's? salmon were introduced into the Great Lakes to munch
>>on the lampreys (who were munching on native fish and killing them
>>off) I can remember seeing people pulling their kid's little red
>>wagon behind them as they came off the breakwater with a huge salmon
>>draped in the wagon bed. Great white fish too.
>
Have you ever watched that show on TV "River Monsters?" The guy goes
all over the world to try to catch rumored huge monster fish that
swallow children, wreck boats etc. He's pulled 350 pound catfish from
various waters. Let me tell you, that ain't pretty! I think you can
check it out in the 'Net.
Janet

On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 12:42:51 -0400, Landon > wrote:


>
>Our difference in what we like or not is part of what makes each of us
>unique! The "IMO" should be naturally added to any opinionated
>statement without it actually having to be typed...


Fat chance!!!
Janet

In article >,
says...
>
> On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:22:33 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > says...
> > >
> > > On 31 Mar 2011 18:02:25 GMT, notbob > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 2011-03-31, Janet > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The alternative, is properly managed, ethical fish farming. Just like
> > > > > properly managed, ethical meat production. The bottom line is that
> > > > > consumers need to educate themselves about how their food is produced and
> > > > > shop accordingly.The market depends on us.
> > > >
> > > > Sic 'em, Janet! Common sense is a disappearing commodity.
> > > >
> > > Yeah? So why aren't you farming fish then?
> >
> > No need; I live on an island off Scotland.
> >
> Contributing to over fishing.

You're completely at sea.

http://www.arrancoast.com/

Janet

On 2011-03-31, sf > wrote:

> Yeah? So why aren't you farming fish then?

Don't need to. Occurring in river jes outside my door.

nb

On 2011-03-31, Ranée at Arabian Knits > wrote:

> Our local grocery stores.

Prove it.

nb

On 2011-03-31, Ranée at Arabian Knits > wrote:

>>
>> "firm and delicate"!?
>>
>> Name one meat that meets that criteria.
>
> You seem rather angry over this. I'm not the person who claimed
> Tilapia was firm and delicate.

I quote your post.

nb

In article >, lid
says...
>
> On 2011-03-31, Ranée at Arabian Knits > wrote:
>
> >>
> >> "firm and delicate"!?
> >>
> >> Name one meat that meets that criteria.
> >
> > You seem rather angry over this. I'm not the person who claimed
> > Tilapia was firm and delicate.
>
> I quote your post.

You quoted my words not Ranee's

Janet

Landon > wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 00:01:07 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 23:17:50 -0700 (PDT), spamtrap1888
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> To avoid wasting the
>>> waste, the business owner installed giant tubs filled with what would
>>> be marketed as "farm-raised" catfish under the chickens.
>>
>> I can only say that those catfish were put to work doing what they do
>> naturally. I wonder what they tasted like? It certainly wasn't
>> "mud".
>
> You have a delightful sense of humor, sf! Ha!
>
> It tasted like chicken.... poop!

You have tasted chicken poop before?
Eewwww...


--
Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

On 2011-03-31, Ranée at Arabian Knits > wrote:
>
> No. The recalls that have happened have been mostly contaminants
> that at least show that the ingredients were intended as food. Bad
> food, but food. I don't have the time, nor inclination to go research
> it now. Have fun.

We recall Chinese food, but not US products. How convenient. You
can't be bothered with either US press claims or lack of US food
oversights. No doubt the US govt is counting on jes such disparity.

> You are not comparing like problems. Your logic is flawed.

What the heck you talking about? I can show you actual US
documentation showing longstanding heavy metal contamination. Real
time signs posted on the CA Delta warning fishermen and hunters to
beware. You got similar proof?

> I buy them from organic farmers who test their seed for GMO taint.
> Sure it's not an absolute guarantee, but it's about as good as I can
> get.

How good are the claims of Chinese dogfood poisoning? Got actual govt
docs or jes newpaper clippings?


> We also grow some of our own from seed that is non-GMO. If there
> is contamination, it is not intentional. You may think that you are the
> only informed or intelligent person out there, but I think you
> overestimate that.

No, but I find it suspicious you accuse Monsanto in one post and claim
ignorance in another. How does that work?

nb

On 2011-03-31, Ranée at Arabian Knits > wrote:
> contamination and disease, it means less. I know that.

Perhaps you'll share this enlightening info with us.

nb

On 31 Mar 2011 19:58:48 GMT, notbob > wrote:

> On 2011-03-31, sf > wrote:
>
> > Yeah? So why aren't you farming fish then?
>
> Don't need to. Occurring in river jes outside my door.
>
What kind of trout do you get there?


--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

On 2011-03-31, sf > wrote:

> What kind of trout do you get there?

80% brown, 20% rainbow.

nb

On 2011-03-31, Janet > wrote:

> You quoted my words not Ranee's

I stand corrected.

nb

Steve Pope > wrote:
> Lou Decruss > wrote:
>
>> On 31 Mar 2011 18:04:18 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
>>> On 2011-03-31, Ranee at Arabian Knits > wrote:
>
>>>
>>>> I thought it was federal, maybe it's state. All our food is labeled
>>>> by country of origin, produce tags have it, meat and fish has it, frozen
>>>> veggies and fruit have it.
>>>
>>> But it's illegal to label whether or not it's GMO (genetically
>>> modified organisms). Why!?
>
>> Is it illegal or just not necessary because they're considered alike?
>
> I see plenty of foods labeled "non GMO". Furthermore, in the U.S.
> food labeled organic cannot be GMO.
>
> Steve

I do not believe that is a true statement. Organic I thought just means no
chemical pesticides add to product. Try reading the book:

http://www.amazon.com/Omnivores-Dile...1603648&sr=1-1



--
Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

notbob > wrote:
> On 2011-03-31, Janet > wrote:
>
>> The alternative, is properly managed, ethical fish farming. Just like
>> properly managed, ethical meat production. The bottom line is that
>> consumers need to educate themselves about how their food is produced and
>> shop accordingly.The market depends on us.
>
> Sic 'em, Janet! Common sense is a disappearing commodity.
>
> nb

The free market is gone. Companies are not transparent how they raise our
food. Cameras are illegal in most states to keep people in dark about their
unsanitary and poor treatment of our food. The governments along with
industry keeps the consumer in the dark and from having the knowledge to
make sound decisions and to educate ourselves about the foods we eat.

--
Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

On Mar 31, 1:11*pm, notbob > wrote:
> On 2011-03-31, Ranée at Arabian Knits > wrote:
>
>
>
> > * *No. *The recalls that have happened have been mostly contaminants
> > that at least show that the ingredients were intended as food. *Bad
> > food, but food. *I don't have the time, nor inclination to go research
> > it now. *Have fun.
>
> We recall Chinese food, but not US products. *How convenient. *You
> can't be bothered with either US press claims or lack of US food
> oversights. *No doubt the US govt is counting on jes such disparity. *

WTF? has notbob been sniffing some burnt greenery? A quick visit here
will show an assload of recalled US products:

http://www.foodsafety.gov/


>
> > * *You are not comparing like problems. *Your logic is flawed.
>

> How good are the claims of Chinese dogfood poisoning? *Got actual govt
> docs or jes newpaper clippings?
>
http://www.fda.gov/AnimalVeterinary/.../ucm129575.htm

I guess notbob's googfing is borken.

Nad R > wrote:

>Steve Pope > wrote:

>> Furthermore, in the U.S.
>> food labeled organic cannot be GMO.

>I do not believe that is a true statement.

Sure it's true. GFGI


Steve

> wrote:

> My wife wants me to cook tilapia. I've never had it. First off, is it a
> "fishy" tasting fish or nice and clean tasting like flounder, cod,
> halibut, etc?

Tilapia is very bland. It is a fish for people who do not really like
fish but feel compelled to eat it for some reason. It is imperative to
accompany tilapia with Italian Pinot Grigio, 90% of which is produced
for people who do not really like wine but feel compelled to drink it
for some reason.

That said, tilapia is not entirely worthless. You can make rissoles
with it. Mince it finely with a sharp knife (you can use meat
mincer/grinder, but it is liable to squeeze a lot more "juice" out of
the fish) together with an onion. (Or you can mince the onion and fry
it in oil or butter and then mix it with the fish mince.) Mix the
fish-onion mixture with an egg. Salt and pepper. You can also add
minced herbs of your choice, such as parsley, celery, dill, etc. Wet
your hands in warm water and form golf ball-sized, or a bit larger
rissoles. Optionally, roll them in (rice) flour. Pan-fry them in oil
of (clarified) butter until golden. At this point you can serve the
rissoles, or, optionally, add sour cream and bake them in the hot oven
for 10-15 minutes. Serve with sour- or half-sour pickles and
horseradish sauce.

Victor

On 3/31/2011 4:57 PM, Victor Sack wrote:
> > wrote:
>
>> My wife wants me to cook tilapia. I've never had it. First off, is it a
>> "fishy" tasting fish or nice and clean tasting like flounder, cod,
>> halibut, etc?
>
> Tilapia is very bland. It is a fish for people who do not really like
> fish but feel compelled to eat it for some reason. It is imperative to
> accompany tilapia with Italian Pinot Grigio, 90% of which is produced
> for people who do not really like wine but feel compelled to drink it
> for some reason.
>
> That said, tilapia is not entirely worthless. You can make rissoles
> with it. Mince it finely with a sharp knife (you can use meat
> mincer/grinder, but it is liable to squeeze a lot more "juice" out of
> the fish) together with an onion. (Or you can mince the onion and fry
> it in oil or butter and then mix it with the fish mince.) Mix the
> fish-onion mixture with an egg. Salt and pepper. You can also add
> minced herbs of your choice, such as parsley, celery, dill, etc. Wet
> your hands in warm water and form golf ball-sized, or a bit larger
> rissoles. Optionally, roll them in (rice) flour. Pan-fry them in oil
> of (clarified) butter until golden. At this point you can serve the
> rissoles, or, optionally, add sour cream and bake them in the hot oven
> for 10-15 minutes. Serve with sour- or half-sour pickles and
> horseradish sauce.
>
> Victor

Speaking of mincing tilapia, I use it for gefilte fish. I can't get the
"traditional" pike, whitefish, carp and mullet that my mother used up
north. I have found that using the same techniques and ingredients
other than different fish, works really well. After all, it's just a
fish dumpling that gets its flavor from being poached in a tasty liquid.

When I went deep sea fishing on the Gulf a couple of weeks ago and the
deck hand was filleting the fish we caught, I made him give me 4
"throats" of red snapper which I will pick clean for the minced fish
mixture and use the bones for the broth.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

Ranee at Arabian Knits > wrote:

> I thought it was federal, maybe it's state. All our food is labeled
> by country of origin, produce tags have it, meat and fish has it, frozen
> veggies and fruit have it.

It's federal, but I think you just listed all the foods where
country-of-origin labeling is absolutely required -- fresh produce,
fresh meat, and fresh fish.

Processed foods are the problem. Soy milk, canned chili, etc. No
mention of where ingredients are from.

We did contact Trader Joe's to learn that their organic soymilk is
made from North American soybeans, and have gone through the same
exercise on a number of other products.


S.