You may have all of these. You may not. But here's a selection of
random kitchen items that I have and particularly appreciate:

Faucet sprayer. Pull up for regular stream, pull down for spray,
rotates to spray wherever you want. Fancier faucets have the function
built in (but don't seem to be pointable without using a hand), so I
like this version a lot. Source: local hardware store.

Spray: http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0658.jpg
Stream: http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0659.jpg

Elbow length oven mitts. Dunno 'bought you, but I have scars on my
forearms from reaching into hot ovens with mitts that are too damn
short and hitting the door edge or upper racks with bare skin.
Source: Arizona Restaurant Supply, Tucson (but probably available in
many other places).

http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0660.jpg

Cast-iron pan handle mitt. Handier than a full length mitt for
stovetop work. Source: ARS

http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0661.jpg

Plastic squeeze bottle for cooking oil. Source: Dollar stores,
WalMart, etc.

http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0662.jpg

Simple timers. Despite their ugly green color, I love these. Minutes/
seconds. Whack the transparent half-globe to start and stop - good
for when your hands are wet or greasy. Returns to original value when
restarted - handy for timing multiple runs of things. Source: A
dollar store in Nashua, NH. Never seen 'em since.

http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0653.jpg

Stainless steel compost bucket and liners. In my house, all vegetable
waste goes in here and eventually gets dumped into the big compost
bins in the back yard. Liners are made of cornstarch and are
themselves bio-degradable. Source: I forget. If you're really
interested, buzz me and I'll look it up.

http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0664.jpg

Big strainer for bagels, dumplings, whatever. Cleans up more easily
than the wire jobs. Source: ARS.

http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0665.jpg

Digital picture frame for showing recipes. Hangs on a cabinet door,
taking up no counter space. Photograph recipes from cookbooks,
magazines, wherever, put 'em up here. Incidently, handy for, um,
digital photos of family, cats, etc. when not cooking :-) Source: any
electronics store.

http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0666.jpg

Salt *and* pepper grinder. One-handed operation! Source: Le Gourmet
Chef

http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0667.jpg

Giant spatula. Good for pancakes, quesadillas, anything large.
Source: ARS

http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0668.jpg


So there ya go.

--
Silvar Beitel

On Apr 1, 3:29*pm, Silvar Beitel > wrote:
> You may have all of these. *You may not. *But here's a selection of
> random kitchen items that I have and particularly appreciate:
>
> Faucet sprayer. *Pull up for regular stream, pull down for spray,
> rotates to spray wherever you want. *Fancier faucets have the function
> built in (but don't seem to be pointable without using a hand), so I
> like this version a lot. *Source: local hardware store.
>
> Spray:http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0658.jpg
> Stream:http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0659.jpg
>
> Elbow length oven mitts. *Dunno 'bought you, but I have scars on my
> forearms from reaching into hot ovens with mitts that are too damn
> short and hitting the door edge or upper racks with bare skin.
> Source: Arizona Restaurant Supply, Tucson (but probably available in
> many other places).
>
> http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0660.jpg
>
> Cast-iron pan handle mitt. *Handier than a full length mitt for
> stovetop work. *Source: ARS
>
> http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0661.jpg
>
> Plastic squeeze bottle for cooking oil. *Source: Dollar stores,
> WalMart, etc.
>
> http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0662.jpg
>
> Simple timers. *Despite their ugly green color, I love these. *Minutes/
> seconds. *Whack the transparent half-globe to start and stop - good
> for when your hands are wet or greasy. *Returns to original value when
> restarted - handy for timing multiple runs of things. * Source: *A
> dollar store in Nashua, NH. *Never seen 'em since.
>
> http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0653.jpg
>
> Stainless steel compost bucket and liners. *In my house, all vegetable
> waste goes in here and eventually gets dumped into the big compost
> bins in the back yard. *Liners are made of cornstarch and are
> themselves bio-degradable. *Source: *I forget. *If you're really
> interested, buzz me and I'll look it up.
>
> http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0664.jpg
>
> Big strainer for bagels, dumplings, whatever. *Cleans up more easily
> than the wire jobs. *Source: ARS.
>
> http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0665.jpg
>
> Digital picture frame for showing recipes. *Hangs on a cabinet door,
> taking up no counter space. *Photograph recipes from cookbooks,
> magazines, wherever, put 'em up here. *Incidently, handy for, um,
> digital photos of family, cats, etc. when not cooking :-) *Source: any
> electronics store.
>
> http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0666.jpg
>
> Salt *and* pepper grinder. *One-handed operation! *Source: Le Gourmet
> Chef
>
> http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0667.jpg
>
> Giant spatula. *Good for pancakes, quesadillas, anything large.
> Source: ARS
>
> http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0668.jpg
>
> So there ya go.
>
> --
> Silvar Beitel

I don't even have a chef's knife. I gave it to my mother. I get by
though. Wooden spoon and a plastic spatula. A couple of serrated
knives. It's hard to carve a roast that is true. I do have a couple
of mouse traps so that I can have a rodent dinner once in a while. No
seriously. I can make a lot of stuff with what I've got. Not at a
professional rate of speed, but the job gets done. I've got like a
wire whisk AND NO copper bowl for egg white beating. My most
important utensil I think is a cast iron around 12" diameter fry pan.
Outstanding. Great for browning.

On Apr 1, 3:29*pm, Silvar Beitel > wrote:
> You may have all of these. *You may not. *But here's a selection of
> random kitchen items that I have and particularly appreciate:
>
<snip>

> Elbow length oven mitts. *Dunno 'bought you, but I have scars on my
> forearms from reaching into hot ovens with mitts that are too damn
> short and hitting the door edge or upper racks with bare skin.
> Source: Arizona Restaurant Supply, Tucson (but probably available in
> many other places).

I never in my life have I used oven mitts. I use a tea towel in my
left hand, and a tea towel in my right hand. Any other method is
pussy.

<snip>

On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 12:29:43 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel
> wrote:


>http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0653.jpg
>
>Stainless steel compost bucket and liners. In my house, all vegetable
>waste goes in here and eventually gets dumped into the big compost
>bins in the back yard. Liners are made of cornstarch and are
>themselves bio-degradable. Source: I forget. If you're really
>interested, buzz me and I'll look it up.
>
>http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0664.jpg
>
I have to disagree with you on this one.

I get cottage cheese in 3 lb containers and have always used them for
compost stuff. They have a lid, they are free, they can go into the
dishwasher and are easily sacrificed/recycled if they grown green or
nasty.

I was given a gift of the stainless mini-can, with filters and
compostable liners for my birthday last year. It came from King Arthur
Flour.

First off, the liners are wasteful and not cheap, but aside from that,
they dissolve with wet goop and the interior of the can gets sloppy.
It can go into the dishwasher, but frankly, it is big and takes up a
lot of room.

So...yes, that KA can can be washed, but its size means that it holds
a LOT of stuff, and that is why it requires an expensive filter,
because stuff sits there longer than it should. The top has holes in
it so it does seal, something that old cottage cheese containers do
easily.

It is so anti-recycling to use this set up, that I think it's a joke.
Again, it is certainly allowing some folks to save stuff for compost
in a way that is convenient for them, but to me, it just doesn't cut
it.

And yes, my kids laugh at my re-use of the cottage cheese containers.
The KA can looks a lot nicer on the counter, I admit it, but the
constant need of supplies to keep it functioning (filters & bags)
takes the pleasure out of it.

Boron

On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 16:01:31 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:

>On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 12:29:43 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel
> wrote:
>
>
>>http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0653.jpg
>>
>>Stainless steel compost bucket and liners. In my house, all vegetable
>>waste goes in here and eventually gets dumped into the big compost
>>bins in the back yard. Liners are made of cornstarch and are
>>themselves bio-degradable. Source: I forget. If you're really
>>interested, buzz me and I'll look it up.
>>
>>http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0664.jpg
>>
> I have to disagree with you on this one.
>
>I get cottage cheese in 3 lb containers and have always used them for
>compost stuff. They have a lid, they are free, they can go into the
>dishwasher and are easily sacrificed/recycled if they grown green or
>nasty.
>
snip
>Boron

I get the cottage cheese or sour cream in the 3 or 5 pound containers
and use them as you do. Nice lid, empty every day, and as you say,
dishwasher or recycle when necessary. Oh -- they're free to me.
Janet

On Apr 1, 3:01 pm, Boron Elgar > wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 12:29:43 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel
>
> > wrote:
> >http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0653.jpg
>
> >Stainless steel compost bucket and liners. In my house, all vegetable
> >waste goes in here and eventually gets dumped into the big compost
> >bins in the back yard. Liners are made of cornstarch and are
> >themselves bio-degradable. Source: I forget. If you're really
> >interested, buzz me and I'll look it up.
>
> >http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0664.jpg
>
> I have to disagree with you on this one.
>
> I get cottage cheese in 3 lb containers and have always used them for
> compost stuff. They have a lid, they are free, they can go into the
> dishwasher and are easily sacrificed/recycled if they grown green or
> nasty.
>
> I was given a gift of the stainless mini-can, with filters and
> compostable liners for my birthday last year. It came from King Arthur
> Flour.
>
> First off, the liners are wasteful and not cheap, but aside from that,
> they dissolve with wet goop and the interior of the can gets sloppy.
> It can go into the dishwasher, but frankly, it is big and takes up a
> lot of room.
>
> So...yes, that KA can can be washed, but its size means that it holds
> a LOT of stuff, and that is why it requires an expensive filter,
> because stuff sits there longer than it should. The top has holes in
> it so it does seal, something that old cottage cheese containers do
> easily.
>
> It is so anti-recycling to use this set up, that I think it's a joke.
> Again, it is certainly allowing some folks to save stuff for compost
> in a way that is convenient for them, but to me, it just doesn't cut
> it.
>
> And yes, my kids laugh at my re-use of the cottage cheese containers.
> The KA can looks a lot nicer on the counter, I admit it, but the
> constant need of supplies to keep it functioning (filters & bags)
> takes the pleasure out of it.
>
> Boron

OK. Valid considerations!

We like having a larger compost pail because it's a long walk to the
outside compost bins in the back yard. Sometimes it's a semi-major
effort in the winter, here in New England. Uphill, both ways, ya
know :-)

The can fits the bill, looks OK on the kitchen counter (where it's a
lot handier than a scrap plastic pail that we'd be likely to want to
hide under the counter somewhere), and we haven't found the costs of
filters and bags onerous. Your Mileage obviously Varied :-)

--
Silvar Beitel

I just bought a "Misto" It sprays olive oil. I think it's pretty neat.

http://tinyurl.com/3ouy6o4

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 14:23:14 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

>On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 16:01:31 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 12:29:43 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0653.jpg
>>>
>>>Stainless steel compost bucket and liners. In my house, all vegetable
>>>waste goes in here and eventually gets dumped into the big compost
>>>bins in the back yard. Liners are made of cornstarch and are
>>>themselves bio-degradable. Source: I forget. If you're really
>>>interested, buzz me and I'll look it up.
>>>
>>>http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0664.jpg
>>>
>> I have to disagree with you on this one.
>>
>>I get cottage cheese in 3 lb containers and have always used them for
>>compost stuff. They have a lid, they are free, they can go into the
>>dishwasher and are easily sacrificed/recycled if they grown green or
>>nasty.
>>
>snip
>>Boron
>
>I get the cottage cheese or sour cream in the 3 or 5 pound containers
>and use them as you do. Nice lid, empty every day, and as you say,
>dishwasher or recycle when necessary. Oh -- they're free to me.
>Janet

Those cheese containers are too small, they'd need emptying much too
often. And plastic absorbs nasty odors that can't be washed out, and
they stain. Compost containers need to be vented or they'll start to
ferment and they'll stink even more. I've been using the same $9
stainless steel one gallon compost bucket for more than 20 years, at
this point it's been free for a long time because now it costs twice
as much.

On Apr 1, 4:03 pm, Janet Wilder > wrote:
> I just bought a "Misto" It sprays olive oil. I think it's pretty neat.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3ouy6o4

Yes. It is neat. I have one, but rarely use it.

Because unlike you ...

> --
> Janet Wilder
> Way-the-heck-south Texas

.... I'm in way-the-heck-north New England. Land of drafty old
colonial expensive-to-heat farm houses, lowered thermostats, sweaters,
and cold viscous olive oil that doesn't spray out of the Misto worth
squat :-).

But it *is* a nice gadget. In the summer :-)

--
Silvar Beitel

On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 17:13:57 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:


snip
>
>Those cheese containers are too small, they'd need emptying much too
>often. And plastic absorbs nasty odors that can't be washed out, and
>they stain. Compost containers need to be vented or they'll start to
>ferment and they'll stink even more. I've been using the same $9
>stainless steel one gallon compost bucket for more than 20 years, at
>this point it's been free for a long time because now it costs twice
>as much.


My property isn't as large as yours, Sheldon. I empty the container
every evening after supper. I walk out the back door into the back
yard and over to the compost. Bring the container back in and rinse
and then wash it. No smell. I'm simply taking fresh trimmings out to
the compost -- they haven't begun to ferment yet.
Janet

On 4/1/2011 3:29 PM, Silvar Beitel wrote:
> You may have all of these. You may not. But here's a selection of
> random kitchen items that I have and particularly appreciate:
>
> Faucet sprayer. Pull up for regular stream, pull down for spray,
> rotates to spray wherever you want. Fancier faucets have the function
> built in (but don't seem to be pointable without using a hand), so I
> like this version a lot. Source: local hardware store.
>
> Spray: http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0658.jpg
> Stream: http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0659.jpg
>
Very handy but not for all faucets. I put one on my kitchen faucet, and
it caused too much pressure inward, and I got a leak and had to have my
whole faucet replaced.

> Elbow length oven mitts. Dunno 'bought you, but I have scars on my
> forearms from reaching into hot ovens with mitts that are too damn
> short and hitting the door edge or upper racks with bare skin.
> Source: Arizona Restaurant Supply, Tucson (but probably available in
> many other places).
>
> http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0660.jpg
>
> Cast-iron pan handle mitt. Handier than a full length mitt for
> stovetop work. Source: ARS
>
> http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0661.jpg
>
Cute!

> Plastic squeeze bottle for cooking oil. Source: Dollar stores,
> WalMart, etc.
>
> http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0662.jpg
>
> Simple timers. Despite their ugly green color, I love these. Minutes/
> seconds. Whack the transparent half-globe to start and stop - good
> for when your hands are wet or greasy. Returns to original value when
> restarted - handy for timing multiple runs of things. Source: A
> dollar store in Nashua, NH. Never seen 'em since.
>
> http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0653.jpg

Page not found.

>
> Stainless steel compost bucket and liners. In my house, all vegetable
> waste goes in here and eventually gets dumped into the big compost
> bins in the back yard. Liners are made of cornstarch and are
> themselves bio-degradable. Source: I forget. If you're really
> interested, buzz me and I'll look it up.
>
> http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0664.jpg

Great idea!

>
> Big strainer for bagels, dumplings, whatever. Cleans up more easily
> than the wire jobs. Source: ARS.
>
> http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0665.jpg

I have one of those, but didn't know what to use it for, so it just
sits. Now I know.
>
> Digital picture frame for showing recipes. Hangs on a cabinet door,
> taking up no counter space. Photograph recipes from cookbooks,
> magazines, wherever, put 'em up here. Incidently, handy for, um,
> digital photos of family, cats, etc. when not cooking :-) Source: any
> electronics store.
>
> http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0666.jpg

Pretty kitty!

>
> Salt *and* pepper grinder. One-handed operation! Source: Le Gourmet
> Chef
>
> http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0667.jpg

I recently got a one-handed pepper mill. Love it! Mines this one:
http://www.target.com/Chefn-Vibe-Sal..._gwvub_2_title
but mine's for pepper. They must have sold of that one.

>
> Giant spatula. Good for pancakes, quesadillas, anything large.
> Source: ARS
>
> http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0668.jpg
>
>
> So there ya go.

Thanks!

On 4/1/2011 5:03 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> I just bought a "Misto" It sprays olive oil. I think it's pretty neat.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3ouy6o4
>

I might try one of those. It sure would be a good way to limit oil use
since you can control it better.

On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 16:11:11 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

>On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 17:13:57 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>
>
>snip
>>
>>Those cheese containers are too small, they'd need emptying much too
>>often. And plastic absorbs nasty odors that can't be washed out, and
>>they stain. Compost containers need to be vented or they'll start to
>>ferment and they'll stink even more. I've been using the same $9
>>stainless steel one gallon compost bucket for more than 20 years, at
>>this point it's been free for a long time because now it costs twice
>>as much.
>
>
>My property isn't as large as yours, Sheldon. I empty the container
>every evening after supper. I walk out the back door into the back
>yard and over to the compost. Bring the container back in and rinse
>and then wash it. No smell. I'm simply taking fresh trimmings out to
>the compost -- they haven't begun to ferment yet.
>Janet


Compost is garbage that I am diverting from the garbage collector. .
Just as with my other garbage, it goes out every single day. I do not
keep it hanging around the kitchen.

I always have enough cottage cheese containers, too, because that is a
household staple. Even on days that I am doing a lot of cooking and
food prep, I have never, ever come close to running out of cottage
cheese containers.

Over the winter, the snow was so deep that we could not get to the
composters (I have two). I piled up those filled cottage cheese
containers in the garage where they froze nicely. When the thaw came,
I marched it all out to the composters. No fuss. No muss. No filters.
No disintegrating bags.

Besides, it does no harm whatsoever if any of the compost starts its
decomposition a few hours or even days early. If I find a rotted
orange or potato or some such, or cut out an overripe portion of a
melon, into the compost container it goes. I surely wouldn't worry
about "fermentation" detracting from its use.

Poor Sheldon...his brain is fermented and he doesn't know his ass from
a hole in the ground about compost, either.

Boron

On Apr 1, 6:30 pm, Cheryl > wrote:

> > Simple timers.
> > http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0653.jpg
>
> Page not found.

Sorry. Sloppy cutting and pasting of photo numbers. Should be
http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0663.jpg

> > Stainless steel compost bucket and liners.
>
> >http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0664.jpg
>
> Great idea!

I think so, but see Boron's and others' comments.

> > Digital picture frame for showing recipes.
>
> >http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0666.jpg
>
> Pretty kitty!

Thanks. That's Enola, 13 y.o. mostly Maine Coon.

--
Silvar Beitel

On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 13:34:14 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel
> wrote:

>On Apr 1, 3:01 pm, Boron Elgar > wrote:
>> On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 12:29:43 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel
>>

>>
>> And yes, my kids laugh at my re-use of the cottage cheese containers.
>> The KA can looks a lot nicer on the counter, I admit it, but the
>> constant need of supplies to keep it functioning (filters & bags)
>> takes the pleasure out of it.
>>
>> Boron
>
>OK. Valid considerations!
>
>We like having a larger compost pail because it's a long walk to the
>outside compost bins in the back yard. Sometimes it's a semi-major
>effort in the winter, here in New England. Uphill, both ways, ya
>know :-)

Hey! That's the same way I tell my kids I went to school!
>
>The can fits the bill, looks OK on the kitchen counter (where it's a
>lot handier than a scrap plastic pail that we'd be likely to want to
>hide under the counter somewhere), and we haven't found the costs of
>filters and bags onerous. Your Mileage obviously Varied :-)

Do your bags start to dissolve once they come in contact with
moisture?

Oh, that can looks so damned pretty. Really, it does. I like its
looks. My daughter gave it to me as a present and I have never let on
that it is anything less than ideal in actual use.

Boron

On 4/1/2011 6:32 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 4/1/2011 5:03 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>> I just bought a "Misto" It sprays olive oil. I think it's pretty neat.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/3ouy6o4
>>
>
> I might try one of those. It sure would be a good way to limit oil use
> since you can control it better.
>
>
If it helps, the more I use it, the more I am liking it.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

On Apr 1, 6:55 pm, Boron Elgar > wrote:
>
> Do your bags start to dissolve once they come in contact with
> moisture?

No. And they even seem to take longer to rot than the other organic
material in the compost bins. But I vaguely recall some bags we had
earlier on that seemed pretty moisture-fragile, so <shrug>.

--
Silvar Beitel

Silvar wrote:

> Plastic squeeze bottle for cooking oil. Source: Dollar stores,
> WalMart, etc.
>
> http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0662.jpg

Craft stores sell them by the dozen; that's where I bought the last bunch.
They're useful for much more than cooking oil; they're handy for
fairly-precise drizzling of stuff like glazes, gastriques, sauces, or
syrups. They can dispense salad dressing more carefully than simply pouring
from a bottle. I posted a tagine recipe here once which used a squeeze
bottle to drizzle yogurt over the dish just before serving.


Bob

In article >,
Boron Elgar > wrote:

> On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 12:29:43 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel
> > wrote:

> >Stainless steel compost bucket and liners. In my house, all vegetable
> >waste goes in here and eventually gets dumped into the big compost
> >bins in the back yard. Liners are made of cornstarch and are
> >themselves bio-degradable. Source: I forget. If you're really
> >interested, buzz me and I'll look it up.
> >
> >http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0664.jpg
> >
> I have to disagree with you on this one.
>
> I get cottage cheese in 3 lb containers and have always used them for
> compost stuff. They have a lid, they are free, they can go into the
> dishwasher and are easily sacrificed/recycled if they grown green or
> nasty.
>
> I was given a gift of the stainless mini-can, with filters and
> compostable liners for my birthday last year. It came from King Arthur
> Flour.
>
> First off, the liners are wasteful and not cheap, but aside from that,
> they dissolve with wet goop and the interior of the can gets sloppy.
> It can go into the dishwasher, but frankly, it is big and takes up a
> lot of room.

We were given a compost can, also by our daughter. It was obvious
whether we were using it or not, since she lived with us when she gave
it to us. Our garbage service has a large can for yard waste and
compostables, so we let them run the compost heap. The compostable bags
say quite clearly that they do not decompose while in use (maybe two
weeks after they get wet?), but that water, but not other stuff, will
leak through the bag. The can has a very sturdy plastic liner that can
then be rinsed out outside with the hose.

> So...yes, that KA can can be washed, but its size means that it holds
> a LOT of stuff, and that is why it requires an expensive filter,
> because stuff sits there longer than it should. The top has holes in
> it so it does seal, something that old cottage cheese containers do
> easily.
>
> It is so anti-recycling to use this set up, that I think it's a joke.
> Again, it is certainly allowing some folks to save stuff for compost
> in a way that is convenient for them, but to me, it just doesn't cut
> it.

Our setup works for us. I don't know how much I would recommend it.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 16:03:58 -0500, Janet Wilder
> wrote:

>I just bought a "Misto" It sprays olive oil. I think it's pretty neat.
>
>http://tinyurl.com/3ouy6o4

We've had one for at least ten years, using it to spray olive oil.
Works well for us.

The body of ours is transparent, which I prefer.

-- Larry

Tucson (but probably available in
many other places).

I never in my life have I used oven mitts. I use a tea towel in my
left hand, and a tea towel in my right hand. they are free, they can go into the
dishwasher and are easily sacrificed/recycled if they grown green or
nasty.that KA can can be washed, but its size means that it holds
a LOT of stuff, and that is why it requires an expensive filter,
because stuff sits there longer than it should.

"Boron Elgar" > ha scritto nel messaggio
> It is so anti-recycling to use this set up, that I think it's a joke.
> Again, it is certainly allowing some folks to save stuff for compost
> in a way that is convenient for them, but to me, it just doesn't cut
> it.

Don't you think that would depend on whethwer the person has his own compost
bin a few steps from his house or if as in many cities composting materials
are picked up weekly?
Your solution would also depend on being able or willing to use 3 pounds of
anything, let alone cottage cheese! On occasion I use an old plastic ice
cream box if I am producing way too much composting materials, as yesterday
when I cleaned artichokes. My composting bin is SS with a plastic liner,
not very big. It gets dumped and then showered at the outdoor shower.
Those corn based bags cost a fortune here.

"Silvar Beitel" > wrote in message
...
> You may have all of these. You may not. But here's a selection of
> random kitchen items that I have and particularly appreciate:
>
> Faucet sprayer. Pull up for regular stream, pull down for spray,
> rotates to spray wherever you want. Fancier faucets have the function
> built in (but don't seem to be pointable without using a hand), so I
> like this version a lot. Source: local hardware store.
>
> Spray:
> http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0658.jpg
> Stream:
> http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0659.jpg
>
I have the standard old fashioned sprayer.

> Elbow length oven mitts. Dunno 'bought you, but I have scars on my
> forearms from reaching into hot ovens with mitts that are too damn
> short and hitting the door edge or upper racks with bare skin.
> Source: Arizona Restaurant Supply, Tucson (but probably available in
> many other places).
>
> http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0660.jpg

I have never ever burned my forearms on the oven. I have regular mitts that
I use like gloves.

>
> Cast-iron pan handle mitt. Handier than a full length mitt for
> stovetop work. Source: ARS
>
> http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0661.jpg

No cast iron pans so no need for that. I did have one once and I never got
it to work right.
>
> Plastic squeeze bottle for cooking oil. Source: Dollar stores,
> WalMart, etc.
>
> http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0662.jpg

No need for that either.
>
> Simple timers. Despite their ugly green color, I love these. Minutes/
> seconds. Whack the transparent half-globe to start and stop - good
> for when your hands are wet or greasy. Returns to original value when
> restarted - handy for timing multiple runs of things. Source: A
> dollar store in Nashua, NH. Never seen 'em since.
>
> http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0653.jpg

I have a timer but never use it for cooking. I just use the one on the
stove.
>
> Stainless steel compost bucket and liners. In my house, all vegetable
> waste goes in here and eventually gets dumped into the big compost
> bins in the back yard. Liners are made of cornstarch and are
> themselves bio-degradable. Source: I forget. If you're really
> interested, buzz me and I'll look it up.
>
> http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0664.jpg

Yikes! Tried that and hated it. All it did was bring me fruit flies. Now
I just put a biobag in a small plastic trash can and run it out to the
recycle bin as needed.
>
> Big strainer for bagels, dumplings, whatever. Cleans up more easily
> than the wire jobs. Source: ARS.
>
> http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0665.jpg

Had one of those once. Not sure what happened to it. Don't have it now.
Can't remember where I bought it but I think on Cape Cod.
>
> Digital picture frame for showing recipes. Hangs on a cabinet door,
> taking up no counter space. Photograph recipes from cookbooks,
> magazines, wherever, put 'em up here. Incidently, handy for, um,
> digital photos of family, cats, etc. when not cooking :-) Source: any
> electronics store.
>
> http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0666.jpg

Since I don't own a digital camera, that would be of no use to me. My
recipes are usually just scribbled quickly on a piece of paper. Unless they
are more complicated and then I print them off or bring in the book or
magazine.
>
> Salt *and* pepper grinder. One-handed operation! Source: Le Gourmet
> Chef
>
> http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0667.jpg

I have a pepper grinder. I use Real Salt. Somebody bought me a salt
grinder but I found I never used it.
>
> Giant spatula. Good for pancakes, quesadillas, anything large.
> Source: ARS
>
> http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0668.jpg

I have one of those.
>
>
> So there ya go.

Two things I use at least once a week (usually more) are the Rachel Ray
pasta pot and a large Circulon sauté pan with lid, although I rarely use the
lid. My old popcorn pan gets a lot of use as well. I also like the cheap
plastic pizza cutter from the Dollar Store. It's one of those half moon
shaped things. Works better than any other cutter I've used. It was
getting old and I couldn't find another in the stores. Found and bought one
on Ebay.

"Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
eb.com...
>I just bought a "Misto" It sprays olive oil. I think it's pretty neat.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3ouy6o4
>
I had one of those and hated it. When decompressed it was too tall to fit
in my cupboard. So I had to leave it out on the counter. It was always in
the way and it always seemed to have a nasty oily coating on it that
attracted dust. I tossed it.

Now I just put a little oil in the pan or on my dough or whatever and use my
hand or a piece of paper towel to spread it around.

"Silvar Beitel" > wrote in message
...
> On Apr 1, 4:03 pm, Janet Wilder > wrote:
>> I just bought a "Misto" It sprays olive oil. I think it's pretty neat.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/3ouy6o4
>
> Yes. It is neat. I have one, but rarely use it.
>
> Because unlike you ...
>
>> --
>> Janet Wilder
>> Way-the-heck-south Texas
>
> ... I'm in way-the-heck-north New England. Land of drafty old
> colonial expensive-to-heat farm houses, lowered thermostats, sweaters,
> and cold viscous olive oil that doesn't spray out of the Misto worth
> squat :-).
>
> But it *is* a nice gadget. In the summer :-)

Ah... Maybe that's why mine didn't work well. I had it in NY. My kitchen
there was cold year round. I cranked up the AC in the summer and in the
winter there never seemed to be any heat in there unless I had the oven on.

"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 16:01:31 -0400, Boron Elgar
> > wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 12:29:43 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0653.jpg
>>>
>>>Stainless steel compost bucket and liners. In my house, all vegetable
>>>waste goes in here and eventually gets dumped into the big compost
>>>bins in the back yard. Liners are made of cornstarch and are
>>>themselves bio-degradable. Source: I forget. If you're really
>>>interested, buzz me and I'll look it up.
>>>
>>>http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0664.jpg
>>>
>> I have to disagree with you on this one.
>>
>>I get cottage cheese in 3 lb containers and have always used them for
>>compost stuff. They have a lid, they are free, they can go into the
>>dishwasher and are easily sacrificed/recycled if they grown green or
>>nasty.
>>
> snip
>>Boron
>
> I get the cottage cheese or sour cream in the 3 or 5 pound containers
> and use them as you do. Nice lid, empty every day, and as you say,
> dishwasher or recycle when necessary. Oh -- they're free to me.

I get that size. Never thought to use them for that.

"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 14:23:14 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> > wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 16:01:31 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 12:29:43 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel
> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0653.jpg
>>>>
>>>>Stainless steel compost bucket and liners. In my house, all vegetable
>>>>waste goes in here and eventually gets dumped into the big compost
>>>>bins in the back yard. Liners are made of cornstarch and are
>>>>themselves bio-degradable. Source: I forget. If you're really
>>>>interested, buzz me and I'll look it up.
>>>>
>>>>http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0664.jpg
>>>>
>>> I have to disagree with you on this one.
>>>
>>>I get cottage cheese in 3 lb containers and have always used them for
>>>compost stuff. They have a lid, they are free, they can go into the
>>>dishwasher and are easily sacrificed/recycled if they grown green or
>>>nasty.
>>>
>>snip
>>>Boron
>>
>>I get the cottage cheese or sour cream in the 3 or 5 pound containers
>>and use them as you do. Nice lid, empty every day, and as you say,
>>dishwasher or recycle when necessary. Oh -- they're free to me.
>>Janet
>
> Those cheese containers are too small, they'd need emptying much too
> often. And plastic absorbs nasty odors that can't be washed out, and
> they stain. Compost containers need to be vented or they'll start to
> ferment and they'll stink even more. I've been using the same $9
> stainless steel one gallon compost bucket for more than 20 years, at
> this point it's been free for a long time because now it costs twice
> as much.

And you never get fruit flies? I was getting flies even when mine was
empty, washed out and with a new filter. I found the only way to stop them
was to put coffee filters between the filter and the container. Was a PITA
so I got rid of it.

"Silvar Beitel" > wrote in message
...
> On Apr 1, 6:55 pm, Boron Elgar > wrote:
>>
>> Do your bags start to dissolve once they come in contact with
>> moisture?
>
> No. And they even seem to take longer to rot than the other organic
> material in the compost bins. But I vaguely recall some bags we had
> earlier on that seemed pretty moisture-fragile, so <shrug>.

The Biobag brand will dissolve very quickly. I bought some other brand
through my garbage company. They were quite expensive but much thicker and
seemed to hold up way better. Can get the Biobags at Costco now though.

"Dan Abel" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> Boron Elgar > wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 12:29:43 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel
>> > wrote:
>
>> >Stainless steel compost bucket and liners. In my house, all vegetable
>> >waste goes in here and eventually gets dumped into the big compost
>> >bins in the back yard. Liners are made of cornstarch and are
>> >themselves bio-degradable. Source: I forget. If you're really
>> >interested, buzz me and I'll look it up.
>> >
>> >http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0664.jpg
>> >
>> I have to disagree with you on this one.
>>
>> I get cottage cheese in 3 lb containers and have always used them for
>> compost stuff. They have a lid, they are free, they can go into the
>> dishwasher and are easily sacrificed/recycled if they grown green or
>> nasty.
>>
>> I was given a gift of the stainless mini-can, with filters and
>> compostable liners for my birthday last year. It came from King Arthur
>> Flour.
>>
>> First off, the liners are wasteful and not cheap, but aside from that,
>> they dissolve with wet goop and the interior of the can gets sloppy.
>> It can go into the dishwasher, but frankly, it is big and takes up a
>> lot of room.
>
> We were given a compost can, also by our daughter. It was obvious
> whether we were using it or not, since she lived with us when she gave
> it to us. Our garbage service has a large can for yard waste and
> compostables, so we let them run the compost heap. The compostable bags
> say quite clearly that they do not decompose while in use (maybe two
> weeks after they get wet?), but that water, but not other stuff, will
> leak through the bag. The can has a very sturdy plastic liner that can
> then be rinsed out outside with the hose.
>
>> So...yes, that KA can can be washed, but its size means that it holds
>> a LOT of stuff, and that is why it requires an expensive filter,
>> because stuff sits there longer than it should. The top has holes in
>> it so it does seal, something that old cottage cheese containers do
>> easily.
>>
>> It is so anti-recycling to use this set up, that I think it's a joke.
>> Again, it is certainly allowing some folks to save stuff for compost
>> in a way that is convenient for them, but to me, it just doesn't cut
>> it.
>
> Our setup works for us. I don't know how much I would recommend it.

I wish our can had a liner! It does not. Gets really stinky. It's large
and hard to wash out and then once you do, it's next to impossible to get it
to dry out. It has been raining so much here. My garbage cans are now wet
inside as well because the trash people left the lids off in a rain storm.

"Giusi" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Boron Elgar" > ha scritto nel messaggio
>> It is so anti-recycling to use this set up, that I think it's a joke.
>> Again, it is certainly allowing some folks to save stuff for compost
>> in a way that is convenient for them, but to me, it just doesn't cut
>> it.
>
> Don't you think that would depend on whethwer the person has his own
> compost bin a few steps from his house or if as in many cities composting
> materials are picked up weekly?
> Your solution would also depend on being able or willing to use 3 pounds
> of anything, let alone cottage cheese! On occasion I use an old plastic
> ice cream box if I am producing way too much composting materials, as
> yesterday when I cleaned artichokes. My composting bin is SS with a
> plastic liner, not very big. It gets dumped and then showered at the
> outdoor shower. Those corn based bags cost a fortune here.

They cost a fortune here too but we are required to use them.

On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 09:11:42 +0200, "Giusi" > wrote:

>
>"Boron Elgar" > ha scritto nel messaggio
>> It is so anti-recycling to use this set up, that I think it's a joke.
>> Again, it is certainly allowing some folks to save stuff for compost
>> in a way that is convenient for them, but to me, it just doesn't cut
>> it.
>
>Don't you think that would depend on whethwer the person has his own compost
>bin a few steps from his house or if as in many cities composting materials
>are picked up weekly?

It could depend on any number of things, of course. Nevertheless, in
my own kitchen, I do not keep garbage/compostables/recyclables sitting
around in my kitchen. They are taken outside to the garbage cans or
the compost bin or the recycling containers. If someone has some
different set up, more power to them.


>Your solution would also depend on being able or willing to use 3 pounds of
>anything, let alone cottage cheese! On occasion I use an old plastic ice
>cream box if I am producing way too much composting materials, as yesterday
>when I cleaned artichokes. My composting bin is SS with a plastic liner,
>not very big. It gets dumped and then showered at the outdoor shower.
>Those corn based bags cost a fortune here.
>
The key is not to use a cottage cheese container - the sweet, green
key, at least to me, is using something that is, itself, recycled
from a previous use and does not require newly manufactured materials
(in the case of the KA can, both bags AND filters) to function.

In your case, the municipality is picking up compostable materials, so
you need to store them until they are fetched. In my case, the goodies
go into the backyard compost bins and are turned into gardening
material. I USE that stuff. It becomes black gold and, in turn, helps
feed my family. Even so, were I putting compostables together for
weekly collection, I'd still get it the hell out of my kitchen daily.
I do not have an air conditioned kitchen and the last thing I want to
do is have fruit peelings and coffee grounds and egg shells festering
and attracting fruit flies in 90 degree heat.

There are 4 adults here, each of us likes cottage cheese, and 3 lb
containers are frugal and convenient in this home. If you have smaller
family food needs, you likely produce smaller amounts of compostables,
too.

So many foods come in plastic tubs as the only container choice, that
acquiring them isn't difficult or sometimes even avoidable. Even silly
me, who strolls into the market with her own bags, and carefully
chooses minimal packaging as much as possible, winds up with tons of
packing materials. I have my own rules about such items if I cannot
avoid them easily...re-use the packaging for some other purpose.
That's my own version of religion. TWIAVBP.

To recycle or not is something each person decides for herself, and
the decisions as to how it is done if that choice is made, are
personal also, barring local regs. It just makes me say a big, fat ,
"Huh?" when I find out that the recycling container requires a
continuous supply of manufactured goods to function. Again, if you
are maintaining/dumping into a container that gets collected by the
town at some time interval, things may differ.

Boron

On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 00:31:01 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>"Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
web.com...
>>I just bought a "Misto" It sprays olive oil. I think it's pretty neat.
>
>I had one of those and hated it. When decompressed it was too tall to fit
>in my cupboard. So I had to leave it out on the counter. It was always in
>the way and it always seemed to have a nasty oily coating on it that
>attracted dust. I tossed it.
>
>Now I just put a little oil in the pan or on my dough or whatever and use my
>hand or a piece of paper towel to spread it around.
>

I owned a pump-up olive oil sprayer for years and it didn't give out
enough oil to mess with, so it ended up in the trash finally.

"Julie Bove" wrote:
>"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 16:01:31 -0400, Boron Elgar
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 12:29:43 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0653.jpg
>>>>
>>>>Stainless steel compost bucket and liners. In my house, all vegetable
>>>>waste goes in here and eventually gets dumped into the big compost
>>>>bins in the back yard. Liners are made of cornstarch and are
>>>>themselves bio-degradable. Source: I forget. If you're really
>>>>interested, buzz me and I'll look it up.
>>>>
>>>>http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0664.jpg
>>>>
>>> I have to disagree with you on this one.
>>>
>>>I get cottage cheese in 3 lb containers and have always used them for
>>>compost stuff. They have a lid, they are free, they can go into the
>>>dishwasher and are easily sacrificed/recycled if they grown green or
>>>nasty.
>>>
>> snip
>>>Boron
>>
>> I get the cottage cheese or sour cream in the 3 or 5 pound containers
>> and use them as you do. Nice lid, empty every day, and as you say,
>> dishwasher or recycle when necessary. Oh -- they're free to me.
>
>I get that size. Never thought to use them for that.

I have a pair of tin snips that I use to cut up plastic containers so
they occupy less space in the recyclables bin... I collapse all
boxes/cartons, and squash metal cans and plastic bottles flat by
stomping. This is a great way to rid oneself of aggressions.

As to composting, everyone has a different situation so it's
definitely not a one size fits all endeaver. I like keeping my
composting bin alongside my vegetable garden, which is too difficult
to reach during winter, that's when I dump my compost bucket into the
large plastic cat litter buckets I keep in my garage, they freeze
solid all winter. In fact they are just starting to thaw so in about
a week I'll haul them out to my composting bin. I have no reason to
use compost bucket liners, in warmer weather I hose out the bucket
outdoors, during winter I put in some water at the kitchen sink, slosh
it a bit and dump it onto the lawn out my back door; fertilizer tea...
one of my little tricks is each time I add to the clean bucket it's a
couple of loads of coffee grounds with the paper filter at the bottom
first, with subsequent paper filters interspersed with veggie parings,
this makes the bucket emptying pretty clean... paper coffee filters
compost very readily. Each year I end up with more than fifty gallons
of very rich compost just from kitchen scraps so to me it's worth the
little extra effort... I'd still need to dispose of the kitchen scraps
anyway. And maybe I don't have as many kitchen scraps as most, many
parings and cores go out into my yard to feed the critters, as do meat
scraps, even pork chop bones and chicken bones tossed out into my yard
disappear practically before I can get back inside, crows are fabulous
foragers... a busted up chicken carcass is lunch for a murder of
crows. An interesting habit of crows unlike other birds is that they
never eat where they find food, as soon as they feel secure they fly
off with it, they snatch and go, so I never find any bones on my lawn.
The silly Canada geese eat where I toss them bread and so about half
the time they lose it to daring crows and even bullying deer. Canada
geese and deer don't eat meat but crows eat most everything except
veggies. A crow can easily fly off with a steak bone.... they have a
little more trouble with a large hunk of stale bread so they peck at
it until they can lift off with it, sliced bread they fold into
quarters so it doesn't flop about and offers less wind resistance,
smarter than most rfc posters. And anything large I put out during
the day will definitely disappear after dark, most larger critters are
nocternal.

On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 09:23:02 -0400, Landon > wrote:

> I owned a pump-up olive oil sprayer for years and it didn't give out
> enough oil to mess with, so it ended up in the trash finally.

I remember when that thing first came out. Reports were anything but
glowing here in rfc. Some of my family members also toyed with it,
but were not impressed and soon stopped using it. I've never even
bothered.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

On 4/2/2011 11:55 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 09:23:02 -0400, > wrote:
>
>> I owned a pump-up olive oil sprayer for years and it didn't give out
>> enough oil to mess with, so it ended up in the trash finally.
>
> I remember when that thing first came out. Reports were anything but
> glowing here in rfc. Some of my family members also toyed with it,
> but were not impressed and soon stopped using it. I've never even
> bothered.
>

I've been using one since I first heard of Misto and it cost over $20
then, I like it very much for spraying olive oil (virginol) on salads
and for use with "non-stick" cookware. I'll admit I am using at least my
second one but I paid less than $10 for it.

--


James Silverton, Potomac

I'm "not"

On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 09:16:08 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:

> The key is not to use a cottage cheese container - the sweet, green
> key, at least to me, is using something that is, itself, recycled
> from a previous use and does not require newly manufactured materials
> (in the case of the KA can, both bags AND filters) to function.

There's where your logic breaks down for me. A cottage cheese
container *is* recycled and repurposed when used that way. I have no
idea what anyone means by KA in this sense. Usually people are
talking about their Kitchen Aid mixer when they say KA. I will simply
ignore that part of your message because it's makes no sense to me. I
thought college educated people were supposed to know how to write.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 09:16:08 -0400, Boron Elgar
> > wrote:
>
>> The key is not to use a cottage cheese container - the sweet, green
>> key, at least to me, is using something that is, itself, recycled
>> from a previous use and does not require newly manufactured materials
>> (in the case of the KA can, both bags AND filters) to function.
>
> There's where your logic breaks down for me. A cottage cheese
> container *is* recycled and repurposed when used that way. I have no
> idea what anyone means by KA in this sense. Usually people are
> talking about their Kitchen Aid mixer when they say KA. I will simply
> ignore that part of your message because it's makes no sense to me. I
> thought college educated people were supposed to know how to write.


This is where you and I part company. We may not understant what someone
says, but why must you be so nasty. If you don't understand, just ask.
Perhaps it is you that is not educated enough to understand what she write.

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"Julie Bove" wrote:
>"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
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>> On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 14:23:14 -0600, Janet Bostwick
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 16:01:31 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 12:29:43 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0653.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>>Stainless steel compost bucket and liners. In my house, all vegetable
>>>>>waste goes in here and eventually gets dumped into the big compost
>>>>>bins in the back yard. Liners are made of cornstarch and are
>>>>>themselves bio-degradable. Source: I forget. If you're really
>>>>>interested, buzz me and I'll look it up.
>>>>>
>>>>>http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0664.jpg
>>>>>
>>>> I have to disagree with you on this one.
>>>>
>>>>I get cottage cheese in 3 lb containers and have always used them for
>>>>compost stuff. They have a lid, they are free, they can go into the
>>>>dishwasher and are easily sacrificed/recycled if they grown green or
>>>>nasty.
>>>>
>>>snip
>>>>Boron
>>>
>>>I get the cottage cheese or sour cream in the 3 or 5 pound containers
>>>and use them as you do. Nice lid, empty every day, and as you say,
>>>dishwasher or recycle when necessary. Oh -- they're free to me.
>>>Janet
>>
>> Those cheese containers are too small, they'd need emptying much too
>> often. And plastic absorbs nasty odors that can't be washed out, and
>> they stain. Compost containers need to be vented or they'll start to
>> ferment and they'll stink even more. I've been using the same $9
>> stainless steel one gallon compost bucket for more than 20 years, at
>> this point it's been free for a long time because now it costs twice
>> as much.
>
>And you never get fruit flies? I was getting flies even when mine was
>empty, washed out and with a new filter. I found the only way to stop them
>was to put coffee filters between the filter and the container. Was a PITA
>so I got rid of it.

I never get fruit flies, don't know why not but I just don't... could
be because fruit fly eggs come indoors on the produce you bring home,
but I wash all produce as soon as it comes in the door, I never place
unwashed produce in the fridge or leave it out on the counter. Fruit
flies have a 24 hour life cycle (why they are used for much research),
so if you wash away the eggs you won't get fruit flies. But really,
if you carefully wash ALL produce as soon as you bring it home then
it's very difficult to get fruit flies. Another fact is that I have
central AC and all the air in my house is constantly filtered several
times an hour, I never open my windows, I don't even have screens,
don't need any, not to mention it would drive me nuts having to look
outdoors through stupid screens. As soon as I moved here I had the
central AC installed along with an April Air filter, and also UV lamps
in the system. Not only don't I have fruit flies I haven't had a cold
in nine years. All the water in my house is treated with UV too, much
more efficient and healthful than chlorination. Even if folks don't
want to spring for central AC everyone needs their water treated with
UV, not at all costly and treats every drop coming into your house, UV
is a very efficient bacteriostat, say good bye to the agony of
psoriasis. Anyone who already has central AC or is contemplating
having it installed needs to have the April Air filtration system and
a UV lamp added. Even if you don't use the AC (like in cool weather)
the fan automatically switches to low so all the air in the house is
still constantly filtered and treated with UV and at very little cost.
There are also UV wands one can use to sterilize food prep surfaces,
but I don't recommend them for the same reason UV lamps are no longer
used to sterilze towels in public rest rooms, they can harm eyes. But
the UV lamps used for water and air are never exposed. You'll save
many fold their price on medical bills not to mention the associated
misery. I don't know why UV treatment for water and air aren't
mandated by law, for residences and businesses, even vehicles,
definitely should be used to treat the air on airplanes... much, MUCH
better than no account Obomination care.... didn't that putz ever hear
about how an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure... doesn't
every HS graduate know that UV kills germs.

On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 00:43:59 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Dan Abel" > wrote in message
...
>> In article >,
>> Boron Elgar > wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 12:29:43 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel
>>> > wrote:
>>
>>> >Stainless steel compost bucket and liners. In my house, all vegetable
>>> >waste goes in here and eventually gets dumped into the big compost
>>> >bins in the back yard. Liners are made of cornstarch and are
>>> >themselves bio-degradable. Source: I forget. If you're really
>>> >interested, buzz me and I'll look it up.
>>> >
>>> >http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...C/IMG_0664.jpg
>>> >
>>> I have to disagree with you on this one.
>>>
>>> I get cottage cheese in 3 lb containers and have always used them for
>>> compost stuff. They have a lid, they are free, they can go into the
>>> dishwasher and are easily sacrificed/recycled if they grown green or
>>> nasty.
>>>
>>> I was given a gift of the stainless mini-can, with filters and
>>> compostable liners for my birthday last year. It came from King Arthur
>>> Flour.
>>>
>>> First off, the liners are wasteful and not cheap, but aside from that,
>>> they dissolve with wet goop and the interior of the can gets sloppy.
>>> It can go into the dishwasher, but frankly, it is big and takes up a
>>> lot of room.
>>
>> We were given a compost can, also by our daughter. It was obvious
>> whether we were using it or not, since she lived with us when she gave
>> it to us. Our garbage service has a large can for yard waste and
>> compostables, so we let them run the compost heap. The compostable bags
>> say quite clearly that they do not decompose while in use (maybe two
>> weeks after they get wet?), but that water, but not other stuff, will
>> leak through the bag. The can has a very sturdy plastic liner that can
>> then be rinsed out outside with the hose.
>>
>>> So...yes, that KA can can be washed, but its size means that it holds
>>> a LOT of stuff, and that is why it requires an expensive filter,
>>> because stuff sits there longer than it should. The top has holes in
>>> it so it does seal, something that old cottage cheese containers do
>>> easily.
>>>
>>> It is so anti-recycling to use this set up, that I think it's a joke.
>>> Again, it is certainly allowing some folks to save stuff for compost
>>> in a way that is convenient for them, but to me, it just doesn't cut
>>> it.
>>
>> Our setup works for us. I don't know how much I would recommend it.
>
>I wish our can had a liner! It does not. Gets really stinky. It's large
>and hard to wash out and then once you do, it's next to impossible to get it
>to dry out. It has been raining so much here. My garbage cans are now wet
>inside as well because the trash people left the lids off in a rain storm.

How difficult can it be to hose out a trash can? My trash consists of
like 99% spent cat litter yet the can never stinks... Fabuloso! A
capful poured into the can once a week. Lavender scent works best.
It's my favorite cleaning product. Naturally trash cans need to be
periodically scrubbed, a five minute chore about once a month when
weather permits... it doesn't rain every day where I live.
http://www.colgate.com/app/Colgate/U.../Fabuloso.cvsp

On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 12:00:25 -0400, James Silverton
> wrote:

> I've been using one since I first heard of Misto and it cost over $20
> then, I like it very much for spraying olive oil (virginol) on salads
> and for use with "non-stick" cookware. I'll admit I am using at least my
> second one but I paid less than $10 for it.

I think it's silly to spray salads with oil. I'm perfectly capable of
using a minimum of dressing and coating every leaf. As far as
nonstick pans - I just pour a little oil in and swish it around with a
turner. It's not a big deal.

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