Kalmia wrote:
> On Apr 7, 12:44 am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>> What is wrong with these people? I saw one show where the woman
>> bought over 100 cups of yogurt. Yes, she has a husband and three
>> kids but could they possibly eat all that before they expire? She
>> also bought a ton of mustard. The person narrating the show said
>> mustard never goes bad. I beg to differ! This was prepared mustard.
>> It has an expiration date on it. And I know from experience that if
>> it is really old it gets a watery part and a solid part. Not good! I
>> also know from both MIL and mother's cupboards that really old dry
>> mustard hasn't got much flavor. So I would think the prepared would
>> lose its flavor after time too. Oh and the husband had to remind her
>> that he doesn't even LIKE mustard. She just laughed.
>>
>> On another show a woman bought 35 bottles of Maalox tabs. Even when
>> I was using them on a regular basis for GERD and daughter was
>> sometimes taking them too, we maybe went through 6 bottles a year,
>> if that!
>>
>> One man donated a ton of cereal to a food bank. I think that's
>> great! But most of them don't seem to do that. They are hoarding the
>> food in their homes. One lady said she had enough chips to feed 800
>> people. Seriously? Chips do go bad.
>>
>> I think saving money is great. And I think it is necessary to keep a
>> stock of some non-perishable items. Particularly in the winter if
>> you are likely to be snowed in. Or if you live in an area where
>> roads might be flooded and you can't get out.
>>
>> What is wrong with these people?
>
> Some ppl don't consider shelf life and also think they will live
> forever. I knew of a woman who died and had 50 pounds of coffee in
> her basement. Kept taking advantage of coupons and BOGOs.

Wow!

On 4/8/2011 3:46 PM, Lou Decruss wrote:
> On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 11:25:12 -0400, >
> wrote:
>
>> On 4/8/2011 8:50 AM, Goomba wrote:
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well I couldn't. It all tastes bad to me! But my husband and daughter
>>>> usually won't eat anything past its pull date. Once in a while I can
>>>> convince them to try something that is a day or two past, but they
>>>> always complain and say the quality just isn't there any more.
>>
>>> All three of you sound like nutcases, to be truthful.
>>
>> I'll never understand why some of you like to drive this point home
>> every chance you get. Don't you think most of us already know how you
>> feel about this woman and her family by now? It's really getting boring
>> to read this over and over from some of you. To me, anyway.
>>
>> *yawn*
>
> You post way too much OT shit here to be criticizing what anyone else
> posts.

Fair enough.

On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 18:42:01 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

> On 4/8/2011 3:46 PM, Lou Decruss wrote:
> >
> > You post way too much OT shit here to be criticizing what anyone else
> > posts.
>
> Fair enough.

You post OT? Since when?

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> Janet > wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> says...
>> >
>> > In article >,
>> > "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>> >
>> > > "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> > > ...
>> > > > On Thu, 7 Apr 2011 14:29:33 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> I do not like having the kitchen lights on at all. Sometimes it
>> > > >> is
>> > > >> necessary. I keep a flashlight in there and I will just use that
>> > > >> sometimes
>> > > >> rather than turn the lights on.
>> > > >
>> > > > Wow. I'm speechless.
>> > >
>> > > It's not a problem. It's an open kitchen. The dining room light is
>> > > usually
>> > > enough for me to see with. If I have to cook something at the stove,
>> > > of
>> > > course I will turn the lights on. However there was a time where we
>> > > had
>> > > to
>> > > make do with battery operated lights. All of the lights in the
>> > > ceiling
>> > > had
>> > > burned out and I had no way to replace them. Until I called the
>> > > electrician
>> > > and that was very expensive.
>> >
>> > I take it you do not own a stepladder?
>> > That'd be cheaper than an electrician...
>>
>> She has to be a troll; the kind who sets up a whole lifestyle scenario
>> and plays it out on usenet till the lightbulbs explode.
>>
>> Janet
>
> It is possible that she does not know how to change a light bulb, or how
> to use a stepladder. Some people are not taught how to do these things.

I know how to change lightbulbs. I can't use a step ladder due to lack of
balance. I am disabled.
>
> I worked for an answering service when I was a Junior in college.
> It was frightening to find out that there were people living in apt.
> complexes and rental houses (mostly college students) who did not know
> HOW to change a light bulb, or even plunge a clogged toilet.

Many people do not know how to do these things. I'm not one of them.

<snip>

"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>
>> "Omelet" > wrote in message
>> news
>> > In article >,
>> > "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>> >
>> >> > If the kiddo likes them a lot, you might want to consider one of
>> >> > these
>> >> > since for many, time is always a factor:
>> >> >
>> >> > <http://tinyurl.com/4yjlr4m>
>> >> >
>> >> > While I DO like egglands best hard boiled eggs, they are a bit
>> >> > pricey
>> >> > so
>> >> > I won't buy them when I need just a few eggs or am needing to pinch
>> >> > pennies like I am at the moment.
>> >>
>> >> I'm allergic to eggs which is why I don't like to cook them.
>> >
>> > Do you have an allergic reaction to just touching eggs?
>> > First time I've ever heard of that...
>>
>> I don't know but I would assume so. Daughter gets a rash if she comes in
>> contact with wheat.
>
> You say you cook them at Easter. Do you get a rash from touching them
> then?

I don't touch them. I have my daughter do most of the work. I have been
told that I shouldn't be around cooking eggs because the particles become
airborne. I don't know if this is true or not. The only eggs other than at
Easter that are ever cooked in this house are in the microwave.

Daughter is only allowed to have eggs once a week because she outgrew an egg
allergy. She usually has them in the form of coleslaw or potato salad.
>
> My sister used to be allergic to chicken eggs but that never stopped her
> from cooking them regularly for her family. When I had ducks, I'd save
> extra duck eggs and give them to her to prepare for herself. She was
> most appreciative. I had a pair of female turkeys for a short time and
> she and I split the eggs they laid. Turkey egg was a real treat!

I never liked eggs so would never attempt to try any other kind. My allergy
test just said "egg". It didn't specify from which ani9mal
>
> You can get fresh duck and quail eggs from most asian markets. Most
> people that are allergic to eggs are only allergic to chicken eggs. This
> is not 100% true, but it's true of the majority.

Dunno. I know my parents had quail eggs and they said they were disgusting.
I wouldn't try duck eggs. I have heard they are really rich tasting.
Doesn't sound like something I would like.
>> >
>> > You can teach the kiddo to microwave cook. Little kids are smarter than
>> > we give them credit for. :-)
>>
>> She's 12. She knows how to cook some things.
>
> 12 is well into an age when she should be able to cook many things!
> Mom started teaching me to cook when I was 4.

I began learning at 3. She doesn't seem to take much of an interest at all
in cooking. She *can* do it. Just doesn't want to. OTOH, I loved it!
>
> By the time I was 12, I could plan and cook entire meals, unsupervised...

Me too.
>
> Don't hold her back.

I don't. She just hasn't got the interest.

"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>
>> "Omelet" > wrote in message
>> news
>> > In article >,
>> > "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> > On Thu, 7 Apr 2011 14:29:33 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> I do not like having the kitchen lights on at all. Sometimes it is
>> >> >> necessary. I keep a flashlight in there and I will just use that
>> >> >> sometimes
>> >> >> rather than turn the lights on.
>> >> >
>> >> > Wow. I'm speechless.
>> >>
>> >> It's not a problem. It's an open kitchen. The dining room light is
>> >> usually
>> >> enough for me to see with. If I have to cook something at the stove,
>> >> of
>> >> course I will turn the lights on. However there was a time where we
>> >> had
>> >> to
>> >> make do with battery operated lights. All of the lights in the
>> >> ceiling
>> >> had
>> >> burned out and I had no way to replace them. Until I called the
>> >> electrician
>> >> and that was very expensive.
>> >
>> > I take it you do not own a stepladder?
>> > That'd be cheaper than an electrician...
>>
>> Right. But even if I did... I have balance problems. I could not use
>> it.
>
> Have you worked on your balance problems? I've had them for a long time
> but finally came across a Dr. that told me what exercises to do to
> improve it and it's helped in a VERY short period of time! I'm willing
> to share if you are interested.
>
Ahem. My medical problems aren't going to go away. I have diabetic
neuropathy, venous insufficieny and also fibromyalgia. I am a former ballet
dancer. Thankfully I do know how to spot otherwise I would still be
crawling or scooting across the floor. Exercises are not going improve
those medical conditions.

> But, that never stopped me from climbing a ladder. I use the paint
> ladder tho' rather than the step ladder as it gives me something to hang
> on to. Folding aluminum paint ladders should allow you to reach ANY
> light bulb in the house without even having to go clear to the top.

I have no clue what a paint ladder is. AFAIK there are only step ladders
and extension ladders. I am not going to try to climb a ladder. That would
just be plain stupid for me to do.
>
> They, too, are cheaper than electricians. ;-) And light in weight since
> they are aluminum so are easy to carry.

Cheaper but useless to me.
>
> Stop being so afraid of things Julie and start trying to live! Trust me,
> it's far more fun, and gratifying as well... I hate feeling helpless.
>
I am not afraid, neither am I stupid.

> Also, why can't your husband or daughter change light bulbs? Do they
> have balance problems too or do they expect YOU do do EVERYTHING???

My daughter tries to change lightbulbs but she often can't do it. My
husband lives in another state. Would be kind of stupid to make him fly all
the way over here to change a lightbulb, dontcha think? And even if he did,
getting him to do it would be another matter. He doesn't care if there is a
lightbulb there or not.

"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>
>> "Goomba" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Julie Bove wrote:
>> >
>> >> I bought one cup of that in vanilla. Daughter took one bite,
>> >> screamed,
>> >> said it was slimy and threw it out. She is very picky as to what she
>> >> will eat.
>> >
>> > She "screamed" over such a trivial issue?? Does she have emotional
>> > issues
>> > that she over reacts like that often?
>>
>> We're both very dramatic.
>
> Why???

Dunno. Just are.

On Sat, 09 Apr 2011 03:56:30 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

>In article >,
> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>
>> "Goomba" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Julie Bove wrote:
>> >
>> >> I bought one cup of that in vanilla. Daughter took one bite, screamed,
>> >> said it was slimy and threw it out. She is very picky as to what she
>> >> will eat.
>> >
>> > She "screamed" over such a trivial issue?? Does she have emotional issues
>> > that she over reacts like that often?
>>
>> We're both very dramatic.
>
>Why???

The family across the street, over the years, has given birth to a
couple of daughters. Each one has been allowed to scream bloody
murder from the time they were able to do so. At first, neighbors ran
to help the 'child in danger,' even called 911, only to find out the
child was simply 'expressing herself.' No one pays any attention any
more except in annoyance for the disturbance. If one of those kids
ever needs any help, there will be no one there because we've become
used to the histrionics.
Janet

Omelet wrote:
> I have the same issue with coupons. Most of them are for stuff I'd
> never use, and many more, it's less expensive to purchase a generic
> brand than use the coupon for the same but name brand item with a
> drastically higher price.
>
> They no longer double coupons around here. Used to, but not any more.
> Mom would sometimes save coupons for "treat" foods that we rarely ate
> (things like Toaster Strudels which are delicious,) then we'd go coupon
> splurging when the stores had a triple coupon day. ;-)
>
> We didn't really save anything as those are foods we don't normally
> purchase, and would never purchase without a good coupon.


So many coupons lately are "Save 40¢ when you buy 2!", and for items
where I *might* buy one if it were on sale, but that's it. It's
generally much cheaper to shop at Aldi (which doesn't take coupons) for
90% of my shopping, and Cub Foods or the local convenience store when
they run good specials. Wal-mart is way down the list; I buy dogfood
there, and sometimes paper products, and I scan the produce section for
markdowns and that's about it.

Any time I can use a national brand coupon without really altering my
shopping habits I will, but the way I shop doesn't really lend itself to
that. (Cub and Kwik Trip sometimes print coupons for their specials, i
guess so they can limit quantities easier)

And I have to stay away from TJ's for the most part (I do go there to
buy their tuna curry) because they have such good deals on candy. Try
their pecan pralines that look like sugar-coated pecan halves sometime...

-Bob

On Sat, 09 Apr 2011 03:51:36 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

snip When I had ducks, I'd save
>extra duck eggs and give them to her to prepare for herself. She was
>most appreciative. I had a pair of female turkeys for a short time and
>she and I split the eggs they laid. Turkey egg was a real treat!
snip

I've never had any other than chicken eggs, but have always wondered
if duck/turkey eggs are different to bake with. I understand that
they taste a bit different? Inquiring minds . . .
Janet

On Apr 9, 9:41*am, zxcvbob > wrote:
>
> So many coupons lately are "Save 40 when you buy 2!", and for items
> where I *might* buy one if it were on sale, but that's it.
>
> -Bob

The reason so many coupons are for 2 items instead of 1 is because the
manufacturer wants you to be well stocked with THEIR product until
their next promotion, and skip their competitor's promos. If you have
sufficient Wishbone salad dressing or Kelloggs cereal in the house,
the average person won't be tempted to use that coupon next week for
Kraft salad dressing and General Mills cereals.

A lot of marketing research goes into figuring out the "lifecycle" of
consumer packaged goods. If It takes the average family x number of
weeks to use up 2 boxes of cereal or bottles of salad dressing, then
the CPG company knows to run that coupon every x number of weeks.

And you can best believe, it's no accident that Wishbone goes on sale
2/$4 the very same week there's a coupon in the Sunday paper for $1
off two! It's a well-planned strategy to keep Wishbone salad dressing
users from buying Kraft salad dressing.

On Apr 9, 5:23*am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> "Omelet" > wrote in message
>
> news >
> > In article >,
> > "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>
> >> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> >>news > >> > In article >,
> >> > "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>
> >> >> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >> > On Thu, 7 Apr 2011 14:29:33 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> >> >> >> I do not like having the kitchen lights on at all. *Sometimes it is
> >> >> >> necessary. *I keep a flashlight in there and I will just use that
> >> >> >> sometimes
> >> >> >> rather than turn the lights on.
>
> >> >> > Wow. *I'm speechless.
>
> >> >> It's not a problem. *It's an open kitchen. *The dining room light is
> >> >> usually
> >> >> enough for me to see with. *If I have to cook something at the stove,
> >> >> of
> >> >> course I will turn the lights on. *However there was a time where we
> >> >> had
> >> >> to
> >> >> make do with battery operated lights. *All of the lights in the
> >> >> ceiling
> >> >> had
> >> >> burned out and I had no way to replace them. *Until I called the
> >> >> electrician
> >> >> and that was very expensive.
>
> >> > I take it you do not own a stepladder?
> >> > That'd be cheaper than an electrician...
>
> >> Right. *But even if I did... *I have balance problems. *I could not use
> >> it.
>
> > Have you worked on your balance problems? *I've had them for a long time
> > but finally came across a Dr. that told me what exercises to do to
> > improve it and it's helped in a VERY short period of time! *I'm willing
> > to share if you are interested.
>
> Ahem. *My medical problems aren't going to go away. *I have diabetic
> neuropathy, venous insufficieny and also fibromyalgia. *I am a former ballet
> dancer. *Thankfully I do know how to spot otherwise I would still be
> crawling or scooting across the floor. *Exercises are not going improve
> those medical conditions.
>
> > But, that never stopped me from climbing a ladder. *I use the paint
> > ladder tho' rather than the step ladder as it gives me something to hang
> > on to. Folding aluminum paint ladders should allow you to reach ANY
> > light bulb in the house without even having to go clear to the top.
>
> I have no clue what a paint ladder is. *AFAIK there are only step ladders
> and extension ladders. *I am not going to try to climb a ladder. *That would
> just be plain stupid for me to do.
>
>
>
> > They, too, are cheaper than electricians. ;-) And light in weight since
> > they are aluminum so are easy to carry.
>
> Cheaper but useless to me.
>
> > Stop being so afraid of things Julie and start trying to live! Trust me,
> > it's far more fun, and gratifying as well... I hate feeling helpless.
>
> I am not afraid, neither am I stupid.
>
> > Also, why can't your husband or daughter change light bulbs? *Do they
> > have balance problems too or do they expect YOU do do EVERYTHING???
>
> My daughter tries to change lightbulbs but she often can't do it. *My
> husband lives in another state. *Would be kind of stupid to make him fly all
> the way over here to change a lightbulb, dontcha think? *And even if he did,
> getting him to do it would be another matter. *He doesn't care if there is a
> lightbulb there or not.

No wonder you're such a miserable person. You're sick with multiple
illnesses, you're basically a single mom who has to do everything
around the house, and from how you've described her here, your
daughter is a brat. I guess there's not a lot for you to be happy
about. Sorry about that. I'll try to find you less irritating in the
future.

But I do have to ask this: Have you ever TRIED a positive outlook? I
know plenty of people with cancer (and I'm one of them) who refuse to
allow it to bring them down. They face their treatments with a smile,
find the humor in it, etc. And it's been proven, time and again, that
a positive attitude does help cancer outcomes. I realize your
illnesses are not curable and they are not going away, but maybe less
negativity will make you feel better. At the very least, it might make
you more pleasant to be around. Having friends who support you
emotionally (and also give you tangible support in the form of helping
you with your housework, hanging curtains, changing light bulbs, etc)
is sometimes better medicine than anything else. I am 4 ft 11, also
afraid of ladders, and I also have ceiling light fixtures. But I have
no fewer than 8 friends that I can think off the top of my head, who,
if I called them right now and said "I need some light bulbs changed,
can you please run over here and help me?", I wouldn't have to face
this evening in the dark. And similarly, if they needed a baby
sitter, or groceries, or a run to the drug store, or any of a number
of other things that I am capable of, I'd help them. If any of my
friends were sick or heaven forbid, someone in the family died, I'd be
the first one over there with a pot of soup or a baked ziti or a
roasted chicken from the market.

I realize just because you don't discuss your friends, doesn't mean
you don't have them; But i get the sense that you don't have many
friends. I hope I'm wrong. I would be lost without my friends. Not
just because of the physical help I've received from them, but even
more so without the EMOTIONAL support.

On another show a woman bought 35 bottles of Maalox tabs. Even when I was
using them on a regular basis for GERD and daughter was sometimes taking
them too, we maybe went through 6 bottles a year, I've never seen an expiration date on mine.Depends on how many stabilizers and
preservatives it contains. I tend to buy mustards with less of these.

On Sat, 09 Apr 2011 08:41:30 -0500, zxcvbob >
wrote:

> So many coupons lately are "Save 40¢ when you buy 2!", and for items
> where I *might* buy one if it were on sale, but that's it.

You're right. I gave up on coupons years ago, because so many aren't
worth the paper they're printed on. They're a tiny amount off the
higher priced product or a lot off a brand new one that the store
hasn't stocked or even heard of yet.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

On 04/09/2011 06:41 AM, zxcvbob wrote:

> And I have to stay away from TJ's for the most part (I do go there to
> buy their tuna curry)

Friend of mine swears by that stuff. Sounds really... um, odd... to me,
but he loves it, and can make a quick meal out of the stuff.

Serene


--
http://www.momfoodproject.com

On Sat, 09 Apr 2011 10:39:39 -0700, Serene Vannoy
> wrote:

>On 04/09/2011 06:41 AM, zxcvbob wrote:
>
>> And I have to stay away from TJ's for the most part (I do go there to
>> buy their tuna curry)
>
>Friend of mine swears by that stuff. Sounds really... um, odd... to me,
>but he loves it, and can make a quick meal out of the stuff.
>
>Serene

It actually is pretty good, believe it or not. I keep it on hand
for emergencies, as it is shelf stable.

Christine

Catmandy (Sheryl) wrote:
> On Apr 9, 5:23 am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>> "Omelet" > wrote in message
>>
>> news >>
>>> In article >,
>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>
>>>> "Omelet" > wrote in message
>>>> news >>>>> In article >,
>>>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>
>>>>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> On Thu, 7 Apr 2011 14:29:33 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>> I do not like having the kitchen lights on at all. Sometimes
>>>>>>>> it is necessary. I keep a flashlight in there and I will just
>>>>>>>> use that sometimes
>>>>>>>> rather than turn the lights on.
>>
>>>>>>> Wow. I'm speechless.
>>
>>>>>> It's not a problem. It's an open kitchen. The dining room light
>>>>>> is usually
>>>>>> enough for me to see with. If I have to cook something at the
>>>>>> stove, of
>>>>>> course I will turn the lights on. However there was a time where
>>>>>> we had
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> make do with battery operated lights. All of the lights in the
>>>>>> ceiling
>>>>>> had
>>>>>> burned out and I had no way to replace them. Until I called the
>>>>>> electrician
>>>>>> and that was very expensive.
>>
>>>>> I take it you do not own a stepladder?
>>>>> That'd be cheaper than an electrician...
>>
>>>> Right. But even if I did... I have balance problems. I could not
>>>> use it.
>>
>>> Have you worked on your balance problems? I've had them for a long
>>> time but finally came across a Dr. that told me what exercises to
>>> do to improve it and it's helped in a VERY short period of time!
>>> I'm willing to share if you are interested.
>>
>> Ahem. My medical problems aren't going to go away. I have diabetic
>> neuropathy, venous insufficieny and also fibromyalgia. I am a former
>> ballet dancer. Thankfully I do know how to spot otherwise I would
>> still be crawling or scooting across the floor. Exercises are not
>> going improve those medical conditions.
>>
>>> But, that never stopped me from climbing a ladder. I use the paint
>>> ladder tho' rather than the step ladder as it gives me something to
>>> hang on to. Folding aluminum paint ladders should allow you to
>>> reach ANY light bulb in the house without even having to go clear
>>> to the top.
>>
>> I have no clue what a paint ladder is. AFAIK there are only step
>> ladders and extension ladders. I am not going to try to climb a
>> ladder. That would just be plain stupid for me to do.
>>
>>
>>
>>> They, too, are cheaper than electricians. ;-) And light in weight
>>> since they are aluminum so are easy to carry.
>>
>> Cheaper but useless to me.
>>
>>> Stop being so afraid of things Julie and start trying to live!
>>> Trust me, it's far more fun, and gratifying as well... I hate
>>> feeling helpless.
>>
>> I am not afraid, neither am I stupid.
>>
>>> Also, why can't your husband or daughter change light bulbs? Do they
>>> have balance problems too or do they expect YOU do do EVERYTHING???
>>
>> My daughter tries to change lightbulbs but she often can't do it. My
>> husband lives in another state. Would be kind of stupid to make him
>> fly all the way over here to change a lightbulb, dontcha think? And
>> even if he did, getting him to do it would be another matter. He
>> doesn't care if there is a lightbulb there or not.
>
> No wonder you're such a miserable person. You're sick with multiple
> illnesses, you're basically a single mom who has to do everything
> around the house, and from how you've described her here, your
> daughter is a brat. I guess there's not a lot for you to be happy
> about. Sorry about that. I'll try to find you less irritating in the
> future.
>
> But I do have to ask this: Have you ever TRIED a positive outlook? I
> know plenty of people with cancer (and I'm one of them) who refuse to
> allow it to bring them down. They face their treatments with a smile,
> find the humor in it, etc. And it's been proven, time and again, that
> a positive attitude does help cancer outcomes. I realize your
> illnesses are not curable and they are not going away, but maybe less
> negativity will make you feel better. At the very least, it might make
> you more pleasant to be around. Having friends who support you
> emotionally (and also give you tangible support in the form of helping
> you with your housework, hanging curtains, changing light bulbs, etc)
> is sometimes better medicine than anything else. I am 4 ft 11, also
> afraid of ladders, and I also have ceiling light fixtures. But I have
> no fewer than 8 friends that I can think off the top of my head, who,
> if I called them right now and said "I need some light bulbs changed,
> can you please run over here and help me?", I wouldn't have to face
> this evening in the dark. And similarly, if they needed a baby
> sitter, or groceries, or a run to the drug store, or any of a number
> of other things that I am capable of, I'd help them. If any of my
> friends were sick or heaven forbid, someone in the family died, I'd be
> the first one over there with a pot of soup or a baked ziti or a
> roasted chicken from the market.

My friends are mostly older than me with their own issues some disabled.
Not going to get into all that. None live near me.
>
> I realize just because you don't discuss your friends, doesn't mean
> you don't have them; But i get the sense that you don't have many
> friends. I hope I'm wrong. I would be lost without my friends. Not
> just because of the physical help I've received from them, but even
> more so without the EMOTIONAL support.

You're wrong!

Janet Bostwick wrote:
> On Sat, 09 Apr 2011 03:56:30 -0500, Omelet >
> wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>
>>> "Goomba" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I bought one cup of that in vanilla. Daughter took one bite,
>>>>> screamed, said it was slimy and threw it out. She is very picky
>>>>> as to what she will eat.
>>>>
>>>> She "screamed" over such a trivial issue?? Does she have emotional
>>>> issues that she over reacts like that often?
>>>
>>> We're both very dramatic.
>>
>> Why???
>
> The family across the street, over the years, has given birth to a
> couple of daughters. Each one has been allowed to scream bloody
> murder from the time they were able to do so. At first, neighbors ran
> to help the 'child in danger,' even called 911, only to find out the
> child was simply 'expressing herself.' No one pays any attention any
> more except in annoyance for the disturbance. If one of those kids
> ever needs any help, there will be no one there because we've become
> used to the histrionics.

She is not like that.

On Sat, 9 Apr 2011 15:04:08 +0100, Janet > wrote:

>In article >,
says...
>>
>> On Sat, 09 Apr 2011 03:51:36 -0500, Omelet >
>> wrote:
>>
>> snip When I had ducks, I'd save
>> >extra duck eggs and give them to her to prepare for herself. She was
>> >most appreciative. I had a pair of female turkeys for a short time and
>> >she and I split the eggs they laid. Turkey egg was a real treat!
>> snip
>>
>> I've never had any other than chicken eggs, but have always wondered
>> if duck/turkey eggs are different to bake with. I understand that
>> they taste a bit different? Inquiring minds . . .
>> Janet
>
> Duck eggs are fantastic for baking; they are a bit larger than hen eggs
>so for a big cake you may need to slightly adjust the recipe quantities;
>and they taste eggier. Haven't tried turkey eggs.
>
> Janet

Thank you for the info. I'd like to try duck eggs sometime. I'll
have to keep a lookout for local supply.
Janet

On Sat, 09 Apr 2011 13:56:47 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

>In article >,
> Janet Bostwick > wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 09 Apr 2011 03:51:36 -0500, Omelet >
>> wrote:
>>
>> snip When I had ducks, I'd save
>> >extra duck eggs and give them to her to prepare for herself. She was
>> >most appreciative. I had a pair of female turkeys for a short time and
>> >she and I split the eggs they laid. Turkey egg was a real treat!
>> snip
>>
>> I've never had any other than chicken eggs, but have always wondered
>> if duck/turkey eggs are different to bake with. I understand that
>> they taste a bit different? Inquiring minds . . .
>> Janet
>
>Turkey eggs, fried in butter, are simply a tasty, meatier tasting egg.
>Nice and rich with a higher yolk to white ratio.
>
>Duck eggs also have larger yolks as the hatch time is longer than for
>chickens so the babies _need_ a larger yolk to survive on longer.
>Muscovie eggs especially as they have the longest incubation time. They
>have HUGE yolks.
>
>With duck, I never personally experienced a stronger flavor, but the
>texture is different. Hard boiled, the whites are firmer and almost
>rubbery. I preferred them fried as did sis' (We actually water baste
>them in the cast Iron skillet) and are superior for baking as they whip
>up fluffier due to the more dense white.
>
>I like to get the quail eggs when I order Sashimi at a Japanese
>restaurant. They are mild and tasty and quite good raw or cooked. I
>often purchase them canned in water to add to salads or stir fry's (dad
>adores them that way) and the yolks are softer and creamier, but being
>canned, the whites again are firmer.
>
>Not sure how they'd be fried.
>
>I have lightly fried pigeon and dove eggs as well. I have pet ringneck
>doves and I don't want them reproducing so I'll either gather and eat
>their eggs, or puncture them on the air sack side to prevent them from
>developing and hatching.
>
>I have also eaten Emu and Ostrich eggs. Ostrich eggs are milder and more
>like chicken eggs but Emu eggs do have a stronger flavor and are best
>served as breakfast tacos or Quiches.
>
>I once made a nice spinach and ham quiche with a single Ostrich egg to
>take to a potluck.
>
>It went over well and there were no leftovers, and I POSTED on the dish
>that it was Ostrich egg. :-)

Thank you so much for all the info regarding differences among the
eggs. I'd have tried your quiche. What fun!!
Janet

On 04/09/2011 12:29 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> On Sat, 9 Apr 2011 15:04:08 +0100, > wrote:
>

>>
>> Duck eggs are fantastic for baking; they are a bit larger than hen eggs
>> so for a big cake you may need to slightly adjust the recipe quantities;
>> and they taste eggier. Haven't tried turkey eggs.
>>
>> Janet
>
> Thank you for the info. I'd like to try duck eggs sometime. I'll
> have to keep a lookout for local supply.
> Janet

Hey, you two: any chance you could work out a difference in your
signoffs so I can tell you apart better? (Just asking; no worries if you
don't want to.)

Serene
--
http://www.momfoodproject.com

On Sat, 9 Apr 2011 11:19:39 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>Catmandy (Sheryl) wrote:
>> On Apr 9, 5:23 am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>> "Omelet" > wrote in message
>>>
>>> news >>>
>>>> In article >,
>>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>>
>>>>> "Omelet" > wrote in message
>>>>> news >>>>>> In article >,
>>>>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 7 Apr 2011 14:29:33 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>>> I do not like having the kitchen lights on at all. Sometimes
>>>>>>>>> it is necessary. I keep a flashlight in there and I will just
>>>>>>>>> use that sometimes
>>>>>>>>> rather than turn the lights on.
>>>
>>>>>>>> Wow. I'm speechless.
>>>
>>>>>>> It's not a problem. It's an open kitchen. The dining room light
>>>>>>> is usually
>>>>>>> enough for me to see with. If I have to cook something at the
>>>>>>> stove, of
>>>>>>> course I will turn the lights on. However there was a time where
>>>>>>> we had
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> make do with battery operated lights. All of the lights in the
>>>>>>> ceiling
>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>> burned out and I had no way to replace them. Until I called the
>>>>>>> electrician
>>>>>>> and that was very expensive.
>>>
>>>>>> I take it you do not own a stepladder?
>>>>>> That'd be cheaper than an electrician...
>>>
>>>>> Right. But even if I did... I have balance problems. I could not
>>>>> use it.
>>>
>>>> Have you worked on your balance problems? I've had them for a long
>>>> time but finally came across a Dr. that told me what exercises to
>>>> do to improve it and it's helped in a VERY short period of time!
>>>> I'm willing to share if you are interested.
>>>
>>> Ahem. My medical problems aren't going to go away. I have diabetic
>>> neuropathy, venous insufficieny and also fibromyalgia. I am a former
>>> ballet dancer. Thankfully I do know how to spot otherwise I would
>>> still be crawling or scooting across the floor. Exercises are not
>>> going improve those medical conditions.
>>>
>>>> But, that never stopped me from climbing a ladder. I use the paint
>>>> ladder tho' rather than the step ladder as it gives me something to
>>>> hang on to. Folding aluminum paint ladders should allow you to
>>>> reach ANY light bulb in the house without even having to go clear
>>>> to the top.
>>>
>>> I have no clue what a paint ladder is. AFAIK there are only step
>>> ladders and extension ladders. I am not going to try to climb a
>>> ladder. That would just be plain stupid for me to do.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> They, too, are cheaper than electricians. ;-) And light in weight
>>>> since they are aluminum so are easy to carry.
>>>
>>> Cheaper but useless to me.
>>>
>>>> Stop being so afraid of things Julie and start trying to live!
>>>> Trust me, it's far more fun, and gratifying as well... I hate
>>>> feeling helpless.
>>>
>>> I am not afraid, neither am I stupid.
>>>
>>>> Also, why can't your husband or daughter change light bulbs? Do they
>>>> have balance problems too or do they expect YOU do do EVERYTHING???
>>>
>>> My daughter tries to change lightbulbs but she often can't do it. My
>>> husband lives in another state. Would be kind of stupid to make him
>>> fly all the way over here to change a lightbulb, dontcha think? And
>>> even if he did, getting him to do it would be another matter. He
>>> doesn't care if there is a lightbulb there or not.
>>
>> No wonder you're such a miserable person. You're sick with multiple
>> illnesses, you're basically a single mom who has to do everything
>> around the house, and from how you've described her here, your
>> daughter is a brat. I guess there's not a lot for you to be happy
>> about. Sorry about that. I'll try to find you less irritating in the
>> future.
>>
>> But I do have to ask this: Have you ever TRIED a positive outlook? I
>> know plenty of people with cancer (and I'm one of them) who refuse to
>> allow it to bring them down. They face their treatments with a smile,
>> find the humor in it, etc. And it's been proven, time and again, that
>> a positive attitude does help cancer outcomes. I realize your
>> illnesses are not curable and they are not going away, but maybe less
>> negativity will make you feel better. At the very least, it might make
>> you more pleasant to be around. Having friends who support you
>> emotionally (and also give you tangible support in the form of helping
>> you with your housework, hanging curtains, changing light bulbs, etc)
>> is sometimes better medicine than anything else. I am 4 ft 11, also
>> afraid of ladders, and I also have ceiling light fixtures. But I have
>> no fewer than 8 friends that I can think off the top of my head, who,
>> if I called them right now and said "I need some light bulbs changed,
>> can you please run over here and help me?", I wouldn't have to face
>> this evening in the dark. And similarly, if they needed a baby
>> sitter, or groceries, or a run to the drug store, or any of a number
>> of other things that I am capable of, I'd help them. If any of my
>> friends were sick or heaven forbid, someone in the family died, I'd be
>> the first one over there with a pot of soup or a baked ziti or a
>> roasted chicken from the market.
>
>My friends are mostly older than me with their own issues some disabled.
>Not going to get into all that. None live near me.
>>
>> I realize just because you don't discuss your friends, doesn't mean
>> you don't have them; But i get the sense that you don't have many
>> friends. I hope I'm wrong. I would be lost without my friends. Not
>> just because of the physical help I've received from them, but even
>> more so without the EMOTIONAL support.
>
>You're wrong!

For me my most valuable asset for overcoming difficult situations is
my sense of humor. I tend not to rely on others for profound
emotional support, my fortitude is much tougher than most anyone I've
ever met anyway. And everyone has their own issues to deal with that
for them are always more important then mine so I'd rather not put
people into the position of being disingenuous. As far as help with
mundane chores I either get on the phone to hire someone or if it
can't wait I have very neighborly neighbors, we tend not to get into
each others business (healthier) but anytime someone needs a hand we
are all right there. At my age I no longer feel comfortable climbing
tall ladders either so I'd see no big deal in hiring someone to change
light bulbs that are not easily accessible, or to clean my gutters, or
trim tree limbs, coat my barn roaf, etc. I'd rather have
professionals do those sorts of favors, what happens if a friend
climbs a ladder in your home and they hurt themselves. duh Besides,
at my age I knew better than to choose a house that is difficult to
maintain, that's why I spent over a year seaching for the perfect one
story home. If I had a vaulted ceiling with lamps that are difficult
to replace I'd likely have an electrician change them to fixtures with
lamps that are easy to replace. And nowadays there are lamps that
don't need replacement for like ten years, or longer. Of course I
wouldn't have vaulted ceilings... I have normal 8' ceilings, I can
paint my ceilings and change all my lamps with a 6' step ladder.
Anyway today I removed the snow plow and front end loader from my
tractor and installed the rear mower. I manage that myself but still I
ask someone to accompany me just in case, if I get hurt way out in the
barn no one would know and certainly wouldn't hear me... all I need do
is let my neighbor know what I'll be doing and it won't be ten minutes
before he'll show up... gives him an excuse to drive his new Gator.
Most high ceiling fixtures can be relamped from the ground:
http://www.amazon.com/Bayco-LBC-2000...2380252&sr=8-6

On Sat, 09 Apr 2011 12:34:54 -0700, Serene Vannoy
> wrote:
snip
>> Janet
Janet
>
>Hey, you two: any chance you could work out a difference in your
>signoffs so I can tell you apart better? (Just asking; no worries if you
>don't want to.)
>
>Serene

I'll think on it. I pondered it a couple of years ago when we got a
second and possibly a third Janet. I was going to sign Janet B, but I
believe one of the other Janet's is a B as well?
Janet Bostwick

On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 00:29:20 +0100, Janet > wrote:

>In article >,
says...
>>
>> On Sat, 09 Apr 2011 12:34:54 -0700, Serene Vannoy
>> > wrote:
>> snip
>> >> Janet
>> Janet
>> >
>> >Hey, you two: any chance you could work out a difference in your
>> >signoffs so I can tell you apart better? (Just asking; no worries if you
>> >don't want to.)
>
> I (sometimes) remember to put UK. You can go by the from addresses too,
>but I realise that becomes more confusing when Janets are talking to each
>other.
>
>> >
>> >Serene
>>
>> I'll think on it. I pondered it a couple of years ago when we got a
>> second and possibly a third Janet. I was going to sign Janet B, but I
>> believe one of the other Janet's is a B as well?
>> Janet Bostwick
>
> Yes, me :-)
>
> Janet UK

I'll try to remember to do Janet US

On 4/8/2011 6:52 PM, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 18:42:01 -0400, >
> wrote:
>
>> On 4/8/2011 3:46 PM, Lou Decruss wrote:
>>>
>>> You post way too much OT shit here to be criticizing what anyone else
>>> posts.
>>
>> Fair enough.
>
> You post OT? Since when?
>

Oh I know I do. I just didn't think it was more than others. I guess
I've hit the radar of some of the old-time regs here. Oh well.

"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 9 Apr 2011 11:19:39 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>Catmandy (Sheryl) wrote:
>>> On Apr 9, 5:23 am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>>> "Omelet" > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> news >>>>
>>>>> In article >,
>>>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> "Omelet" > wrote in message
>>>>>> news >>>>>>> In article >,
>>>>>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 7 Apr 2011 14:29:33 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I do not like having the kitchen lights on at all. Sometimes
>>>>>>>>>> it is necessary. I keep a flashlight in there and I will just
>>>>>>>>>> use that sometimes
>>>>>>>>>> rather than turn the lights on.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wow. I'm speechless.
>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's not a problem. It's an open kitchen. The dining room light
>>>>>>>> is usually
>>>>>>>> enough for me to see with. If I have to cook something at the
>>>>>>>> stove, of
>>>>>>>> course I will turn the lights on. However there was a time where
>>>>>>>> we had
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> make do with battery operated lights. All of the lights in the
>>>>>>>> ceiling
>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>> burned out and I had no way to replace them. Until I called the
>>>>>>>> electrician
>>>>>>>> and that was very expensive.
>>>>
>>>>>>> I take it you do not own a stepladder?
>>>>>>> That'd be cheaper than an electrician...
>>>>
>>>>>> Right. But even if I did... I have balance problems. I could not
>>>>>> use it.
>>>>
>>>>> Have you worked on your balance problems? I've had them for a long
>>>>> time but finally came across a Dr. that told me what exercises to
>>>>> do to improve it and it's helped in a VERY short period of time!
>>>>> I'm willing to share if you are interested.
>>>>
>>>> Ahem. My medical problems aren't going to go away. I have diabetic
>>>> neuropathy, venous insufficieny and also fibromyalgia. I am a former
>>>> ballet dancer. Thankfully I do know how to spot otherwise I would
>>>> still be crawling or scooting across the floor. Exercises are not
>>>> going improve those medical conditions.
>>>>
>>>>> But, that never stopped me from climbing a ladder. I use the paint
>>>>> ladder tho' rather than the step ladder as it gives me something to
>>>>> hang on to. Folding aluminum paint ladders should allow you to
>>>>> reach ANY light bulb in the house without even having to go clear
>>>>> to the top.
>>>>
>>>> I have no clue what a paint ladder is. AFAIK there are only step
>>>> ladders and extension ladders. I am not going to try to climb a
>>>> ladder. That would just be plain stupid for me to do.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> They, too, are cheaper than electricians. ;-) And light in weight
>>>>> since they are aluminum so are easy to carry.
>>>>
>>>> Cheaper but useless to me.
>>>>
>>>>> Stop being so afraid of things Julie and start trying to live!
>>>>> Trust me, it's far more fun, and gratifying as well... I hate
>>>>> feeling helpless.
>>>>
>>>> I am not afraid, neither am I stupid.
>>>>
>>>>> Also, why can't your husband or daughter change light bulbs? Do they
>>>>> have balance problems too or do they expect YOU do do EVERYTHING???
>>>>
>>>> My daughter tries to change lightbulbs but she often can't do it. My
>>>> husband lives in another state. Would be kind of stupid to make him
>>>> fly all the way over here to change a lightbulb, dontcha think? And
>>>> even if he did, getting him to do it would be another matter. He
>>>> doesn't care if there is a lightbulb there or not.
>>>
>>> No wonder you're such a miserable person. You're sick with multiple
>>> illnesses, you're basically a single mom who has to do everything
>>> around the house, and from how you've described her here, your
>>> daughter is a brat. I guess there's not a lot for you to be happy
>>> about. Sorry about that. I'll try to find you less irritating in the
>>> future.
>>>
>>> But I do have to ask this: Have you ever TRIED a positive outlook? I
>>> know plenty of people with cancer (and I'm one of them) who refuse to
>>> allow it to bring them down. They face their treatments with a smile,
>>> find the humor in it, etc. And it's been proven, time and again, that
>>> a positive attitude does help cancer outcomes. I realize your
>>> illnesses are not curable and they are not going away, but maybe less
>>> negativity will make you feel better. At the very least, it might make
>>> you more pleasant to be around. Having friends who support you
>>> emotionally (and also give you tangible support in the form of helping
>>> you with your housework, hanging curtains, changing light bulbs, etc)
>>> is sometimes better medicine than anything else. I am 4 ft 11, also
>>> afraid of ladders, and I also have ceiling light fixtures. But I have
>>> no fewer than 8 friends that I can think off the top of my head, who,
>>> if I called them right now and said "I need some light bulbs changed,
>>> can you please run over here and help me?", I wouldn't have to face
>>> this evening in the dark. And similarly, if they needed a baby
>>> sitter, or groceries, or a run to the drug store, or any of a number
>>> of other things that I am capable of, I'd help them. If any of my
>>> friends were sick or heaven forbid, someone in the family died, I'd be
>>> the first one over there with a pot of soup or a baked ziti or a
>>> roasted chicken from the market.
>>
>>My friends are mostly older than me with their own issues some disabled.
>>Not going to get into all that. None live near me.
>>>
>>> I realize just because you don't discuss your friends, doesn't mean
>>> you don't have them; But i get the sense that you don't have many
>>> friends. I hope I'm wrong. I would be lost without my friends. Not
>>> just because of the physical help I've received from them, but even
>>> more so without the EMOTIONAL support.
>>
>>You're wrong!
>
> For me my most valuable asset for overcoming difficult situations is
> my sense of humor. I tend not to rely on others for profound
> emotional support, my fortitude is much tougher than most anyone I've
> ever met anyway. And everyone has their own issues to deal with that
> for them are always more important then mine so I'd rather not put
> people into the position of being disingenuous. As far as help with
> mundane chores I either get on the phone to hire someone or if it
> can't wait I have very neighborly neighbors, we tend not to get into
> each others business (healthier) but anytime someone needs a hand we
> are all right there. At my age I no longer feel comfortable climbing
> tall ladders either so I'd see no big deal in hiring someone to change
> light bulbs that are not easily accessible, or to clean my gutters, or
> trim tree limbs, coat my barn roaf, etc. I'd rather have
> professionals do those sorts of favors, what happens if a friend
> climbs a ladder in your home and they hurt themselves. duh Besides,
> at my age I knew better than to choose a house that is difficult to
> maintain, that's why I spent over a year seaching for the perfect one
> story home. If I had a vaulted ceiling with lamps that are difficult
> to replace I'd likely have an electrician change them to fixtures with
> lamps that are easy to replace. And nowadays there are lamps that
> don't need replacement for like ten years, or longer. Of course I
> wouldn't have vaulted ceilings... I have normal 8' ceilings, I can
> paint my ceilings and change all my lamps with a 6' step ladder.
> Anyway today I removed the snow plow and front end loader from my
> tractor and installed the rear mower. I manage that myself but still I
> ask someone to accompany me just in case, if I get hurt way out in the
> barn no one would know and certainly wouldn't hear me... all I need do
> is let my neighbor know what I'll be doing and it won't be ten minutes
> before he'll show up... gives him an excuse to drive his new Gator.
> Most high ceiling fixtures can be relamped from the ground:
> http://www.amazon.com/Bayco-LBC-2000...2380252&sr=8-6

I had a pole for changing them but it didn't work with these can lights. It
works by suction and in order for it to grab the bulb, you have to push it
upwards. This was merely pushing the fixtures all into the ceiling. My
husband was able to retrieve some of the parts but some seemed to be lost
forever. Eventually when all but one light above the fridge had burned out
is when I called the electrician. This was not the only issue. There were
lights in the garage that were burned out that were not easily replaced
because some idiot installed the fixture so that if you opened the garage
door, you couldn't access the fixture. With the door shut, it was pitch
dark because of course the bulbs were burned out! We also could not get the
cover off of the garage door opener to replace the bulb in there. That has
again burned out. And then there was the fire in the laundry room caused by
a ballast that had burned out. So it wasn't just for the one thing that I
called the electrician. He also installed a dimmer switch in the kitchen
because when those lights *are* on, they are too bright and generate too
much heat to make the room comfortable if you are in there busy and cooking.

The electrician told me not to use the suction pole thingie because it would
not work with those lights.

I have since bought another one that has a metal cage type thingie on it
that expands and contracts. I have successfully used it to change the flood
lights at the back house, but they are not can lights. I do not know if it
will work in the kitchen. Part of the problem there is that the cans are
put in at an angle.

I currently need someone to change the bulbs along the front of the house.
The fixtures there are recessed. I can reach the glass fixture and pull it
down. It pulls down slightly. The problem then is in accessing the bulb.
You have to wend your hand around and up to get to the small bulb within.
And it is just out of my grasp in standing on the step stool. My husband is
a bit shorter than me. He can reach them if he puts two phone books under
the steep ladder. I don't think this is a smart thing to do. I would
gladly hire my young adult nephew to do this because this is the sort of
thing he likes to do to make some extra money, but... I think he is only my
height, if that. And he doesn't own a ladder. I had my husband's friend
change one of the bulbs before he moved away. He is very tall and had no
problem at all reaching it. One friend of mine has a grandson who is the
age of my nephew. I believe he is taller but he currently has a knee
surgery and is awaiting surgery for it so he would not be a good one for
climbing a ladder, even if we did have one that would work.

I might see if the plumber I hired recently for three different things could
do the bulbs along the front of the house. He does construction as well and
he doesn't seem to charge a lot. I also don't know for sure what kind of
bulbs are supposed to go in there. The first one that was changed was done
by the milkman. He was quite tall. But I no longer get milk delivery. It
was one of those new coiled bulbs that they are pushing us to use. But...
Those all say not for outdoor use. It was a small one though. Smaller than
your standard incandescent light. Anyway... I should think this guy would
have a ladder that would work.

"Ranée at Arabian Knits" > wrote in message
...
> In article
> >,
> "Catmandy (Sheryl)" > wrote:
>
>> I like a bargain as much as anyone. I love free stuff if its something
>> I use. But there comes a point where even if it's free, too much is
>> too much.
>
> I agree with you, though I think my idea of how much that is might be
> different. I don't think having more than a year or two's supply makes
> sense for anyone. However, for us 150 boxes of pasta is just under a
> two year supply.

For us, 150 boxes would last for many years, if they would keep for that
long. We might use 1/2 or 1/3 of a box a week. Or we might not. We don't
eat pasta every week. If my husband is home and I am cooking pasta, I might
cook the whole box if it is a 4 serving box. Some of what I buy is 6
servings.
>
> Like I said, I didn't know if they were large families or not. It
> sounds like they weren't, in which case, there cannot be a need for that
> much unless they cook for a church soup kitchen or something like that
> on a regular basis.

Right. They weren't at all.
>
> I just know that in an economy such as we have, in a place where we
> live now that is more remote, and even in our former home which wasn't
> remote at all, but did have weather issues, still, it makes me feel a
> bit more secure to have enough to eat for the family regardless. If it
> really came down to it, we could eat out of our freezers and pantry for
> quite a while, though the meals wouldn't be nearly as exciting.

These people didn't live in remote areas at all.
>
> We live in a much smaller home now, though, so I am more careful
> about what we store. When we moved, I had enough toothpaste to get us
> through for about six or seven months before we had to buy any. It
> wasn't out of any weird hoarding, but when it went on sale for $0.79 or
> $0.99 I'd buy two (which was the limit). Every time it went on sale for
> that price. It meant we saved over half the cost and didn't have to buy
> it when it was more expensive.

I buy the toothpaste at Costco because it is cheaper but I always have that
one last tube that has expired before I can get to it. I am the only one
who uses it though. Husband uses a different kind and so does daughter.

"Julie Bove" > ha scritto nel messaggio
...


> She is not like that.

We have only your description to go by, and you make it sound like she is an
hysteric. I know things about your child I wouldn't expect to know about
mine.

In article >,
"Giusi" > wrote:

> "Julie Bove" > ha scritto nel messaggio
> ...
> >
> > "Giusi" > wrote in message
> >> "Julie Bove" > ha scritto nel messaggio
> >> ...
> >>
> >>
> >>> She is not like that.
> >>
> >> We have only your description to go by, and you make it sound like she is
> >> an hysteric. I know things about your child I wouldn't expect to know
> >> about mine.
> >
> > I never said she was hysterical.
>
> Yes you did, you just didn't use that word. Over and over you have
> described your child doing things that sound hysterical or even mad.
> Causing such a scene in a restaurant that she could blackmail you into
> giving in to her demands was my first recollection of it.

Screaming over the texture of yogurt is not normal.

Miche

--
Electricians do it in three phases

"Giusi" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Julie Bove" > ha scritto nel messaggio
> ...
>
>
>> She is not like that.
>
> We have only your description to go by, and you make it sound like she is
> an hysteric. I know things about your child I wouldn't expect to know
> about mine.

I never said she was hysterical.

"Julie Bove" > ha scritto nel messaggio
...
>
> "Giusi" > wrote in message
>> "Julie Bove" > ha scritto nel messaggio
>> ...
>>
>>
>>> She is not like that.
>>
>> We have only your description to go by, and you make it sound like she is
>> an hysteric. I know things about your child I wouldn't expect to know
>> about mine.
>
> I never said she was hysterical.

Yes you did, you just didn't use that word. Over and over you have
described your child doing things that sound hysterical or even mad.
Causing such a scene in a restaurant that she could blackmail you into
giving in to her demands was my first recollection of it.

Ranée at Arabian Knits wrote:

> "Catmandy (Sheryl)" > wrote:
>
>> I like a bargain as much as anyone. I love free stuff if its
>> something I use. But there comes a point where even if it's free,
>> too much is too much.
>
> I agree with you, though I think my idea of how much that is might
> be different. I don't think having more than a year or two's supply
> makes sense for anyone. However, for us 150 boxes of pasta is just
> under a two year supply.

> Like I said, I didn't know if they were large families or not. It
> sounds like they weren't, in which case, there cannot be a need for
> that much unless they cook for a church soup kitchen or something
> like that on a regular basis.

I think if you saw the shows you'd have a better idea what we're
thinking. From your perspective, in your situation, all of this
compulsive purchasing makes more sense than it does to most
people. But when you see someone scooping up 37 bottles of
(what was that, Maalox or something?) and filling up their husband's
last place to sit and watch tv with boxes and boxes of pasta, you
get that these people have gone over the edge.

> We live in a much smaller home now, though, so I am more careful
> about what we store. When we moved, I had enough toothpaste to get us
> through for about six or seven months before we had to buy any. It
> wasn't out of any weird hoarding, but when it went on sale for $0.79
> or $0.99 I'd buy two (which was the limit). Every time it went on
> sale for that price. It meant we saved over half the cost and didn't
> have to buy it when it was more expensive.

I don't think that's weird. I buy a year's worth of toothpaste online
as it's a kind you don't find in the store any longer, but it doesn't
take up a ton of room, I don't have to store it under the bed or
anything. Toothpaste is one of those things I don't like always
watching to be on sale, either. I would stock up anyway.

nancy

On Sat, 9 Apr 2011 20:09:38 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sat, 9 Apr 2011 11:19:39 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>Catmandy (Sheryl) wrote:
>>>> On Apr 9, 5:23 am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>>>> "Omelet" > wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>> news >>>>>
>>>>>> In article >,
>>>>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Omelet" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> news >>>>>>>> In article >,
>>>>>>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 7 Apr 2011 14:29:33 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I do not like having the kitchen lights on at all. Sometimes
>>>>>>>>>>> it is necessary. I keep a flashlight in there and I will just
>>>>>>>>>>> use that sometimes
>>>>>>>>>>> rather than turn the lights on.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Wow. I'm speechless.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's not a problem. It's an open kitchen. The dining room light
>>>>>>>>> is usually
>>>>>>>>> enough for me to see with. If I have to cook something at the
>>>>>>>>> stove, of
>>>>>>>>> course I will turn the lights on. However there was a time where
>>>>>>>>> we had
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> make do with battery operated lights. All of the lights in the
>>>>>>>>> ceiling
>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>> burned out and I had no way to replace them. Until I called the
>>>>>>>>> electrician
>>>>>>>>> and that was very expensive.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I take it you do not own a stepladder?
>>>>>>>> That'd be cheaper than an electrician...
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Right. But even if I did... I have balance problems. I could not
>>>>>>> use it.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Have you worked on your balance problems? I've had them for a long
>>>>>> time but finally came across a Dr. that told me what exercises to
>>>>>> do to improve it and it's helped in a VERY short period of time!
>>>>>> I'm willing to share if you are interested.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ahem. My medical problems aren't going to go away. I have diabetic
>>>>> neuropathy, venous insufficieny and also fibromyalgia. I am a former
>>>>> ballet dancer. Thankfully I do know how to spot otherwise I would
>>>>> still be crawling or scooting across the floor. Exercises are not
>>>>> going improve those medical conditions.
>>>>>
>>>>>> But, that never stopped me from climbing a ladder. I use the paint
>>>>>> ladder tho' rather than the step ladder as it gives me something to
>>>>>> hang on to. Folding aluminum paint ladders should allow you to
>>>>>> reach ANY light bulb in the house without even having to go clear
>>>>>> to the top.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have no clue what a paint ladder is. AFAIK there are only step
>>>>> ladders and extension ladders. I am not going to try to climb a
>>>>> ladder. That would just be plain stupid for me to do.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> They, too, are cheaper than electricians. ;-) And light in weight
>>>>>> since they are aluminum so are easy to carry.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheaper but useless to me.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Stop being so afraid of things Julie and start trying to live!
>>>>>> Trust me, it's far more fun, and gratifying as well... I hate
>>>>>> feeling helpless.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not afraid, neither am I stupid.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, why can't your husband or daughter change light bulbs? Do they
>>>>>> have balance problems too or do they expect YOU do do EVERYTHING???
>>>>>
>>>>> My daughter tries to change lightbulbs but she often can't do it. My
>>>>> husband lives in another state. Would be kind of stupid to make him
>>>>> fly all the way over here to change a lightbulb, dontcha think? And
>>>>> even if he did, getting him to do it would be another matter. He
>>>>> doesn't care if there is a lightbulb there or not.
>>>>
>>>> No wonder you're such a miserable person. You're sick with multiple
>>>> illnesses, you're basically a single mom who has to do everything
>>>> around the house, and from how you've described her here, your
>>>> daughter is a brat. I guess there's not a lot for you to be happy
>>>> about. Sorry about that. I'll try to find you less irritating in the
>>>> future.
>>>>
>>>> But I do have to ask this: Have you ever TRIED a positive outlook? I
>>>> know plenty of people with cancer (and I'm one of them) who refuse to
>>>> allow it to bring them down. They face their treatments with a smile,
>>>> find the humor in it, etc. And it's been proven, time and again, that
>>>> a positive attitude does help cancer outcomes. I realize your
>>>> illnesses are not curable and they are not going away, but maybe less
>>>> negativity will make you feel better. At the very least, it might make
>>>> you more pleasant to be around. Having friends who support you
>>>> emotionally (and also give you tangible support in the form of helping
>>>> you with your housework, hanging curtains, changing light bulbs, etc)
>>>> is sometimes better medicine than anything else. I am 4 ft 11, also
>>>> afraid of ladders, and I also have ceiling light fixtures. But I have
>>>> no fewer than 8 friends that I can think off the top of my head, who,
>>>> if I called them right now and said "I need some light bulbs changed,
>>>> can you please run over here and help me?", I wouldn't have to face
>>>> this evening in the dark. And similarly, if they needed a baby
>>>> sitter, or groceries, or a run to the drug store, or any of a number
>>>> of other things that I am capable of, I'd help them. If any of my
>>>> friends were sick or heaven forbid, someone in the family died, I'd be
>>>> the first one over there with a pot of soup or a baked ziti or a
>>>> roasted chicken from the market.
>>>
>>>My friends are mostly older than me with their own issues some disabled.
>>>Not going to get into all that. None live near me.
>>>>
>>>> I realize just because you don't discuss your friends, doesn't mean
>>>> you don't have them; But i get the sense that you don't have many
>>>> friends. I hope I'm wrong. I would be lost without my friends. Not
>>>> just because of the physical help I've received from them, but even
>>>> more so without the EMOTIONAL support.
>>>
>>>You're wrong!
>>
>> For me my most valuable asset for overcoming difficult situations is
>> my sense of humor. I tend not to rely on others for profound
>> emotional support, my fortitude is much tougher than most anyone I've
>> ever met anyway. And everyone has their own issues to deal with that
>> for them are always more important then mine so I'd rather not put
>> people into the position of being disingenuous. As far as help with
>> mundane chores I either get on the phone to hire someone or if it
>> can't wait I have very neighborly neighbors, we tend not to get into
>> each others business (healthier) but anytime someone needs a hand we
>> are all right there. At my age I no longer feel comfortable climbing
>> tall ladders either so I'd see no big deal in hiring someone to change
>> light bulbs that are not easily accessible, or to clean my gutters, or
>> trim tree limbs, coat my barn roaf, etc. I'd rather have
>> professionals do those sorts of favors, what happens if a friend
>> climbs a ladder in your home and they hurt themselves. duh Besides,
>> at my age I knew better than to choose a house that is difficult to
>> maintain, that's why I spent over a year seaching for the perfect one
>> story home. If I had a vaulted ceiling with lamps that are difficult
>> to replace I'd likely have an electrician change them to fixtures with
>> lamps that are easy to replace. And nowadays there are lamps that
>> don't need replacement for like ten years, or longer. Of course I
>> wouldn't have vaulted ceilings... I have normal 8' ceilings, I can
>> paint my ceilings and change all my lamps with a 6' step ladder.
>> Anyway today I removed the snow plow and front end loader from my
>> tractor and installed the rear mower. I manage that myself but still I
>> ask someone to accompany me just in case, if I get hurt way out in the
>> barn no one would know and certainly wouldn't hear me... all I need do
>> is let my neighbor know what I'll be doing and it won't be ten minutes
>> before he'll show up... gives him an excuse to drive his new Gator.
>> Most high ceiling fixtures can be relamped from the ground:
>> http://www.amazon.com/Bayco-LBC-2000...2380252&sr=8-6
>
>I had a pole for changing them but it didn't work with these can lights. It
>works by suction and in order for it to grab the bulb, you have to push it
>upwards. This was merely pushing the fixtures all into the ceiling. My
>husband was able to retrieve some of the parts but some seemed to be lost
>forever. Eventually when all but one light above the fridge had burned out
>is when I called the electrician. This was not the only issue. There were
>lights in the garage that were burned out that were not easily replaced
>because some idiot installed the fixture so that if you opened the garage
>door, you couldn't access the fixture. With the door shut, it was pitch
>dark because of course the bulbs were burned out! We also could not get the
>cover off of the garage door opener to replace the bulb in there. That has
>again burned out. And then there was the fire in the laundry room caused by
>a ballast that had burned out. So it wasn't just for the one thing that I
>called the electrician. He also installed a dimmer switch in the kitchen
>because when those lights *are* on, they are too bright and generate too
>much heat to make the room comfortable if you are in there busy and cooking.
>
>The electrician told me not to use the suction pole thingie because it would
>not work with those lights.
>
>I have since bought another one that has a metal cage type thingie on it
>that expands and contracts. I have successfully used it to change the flood
>lights at the back house, but they are not can lights. I do not know if it
>will work in the kitchen. Part of the problem there is that the cans are
>put in at an angle.
>
>I currently need someone to change the bulbs along the front of the house.
>The fixtures there are recessed. I can reach the glass fixture and pull it
>down. It pulls down slightly. The problem then is in accessing the bulb.
>You have to wend your hand around and up to get to the small bulb within.
>And it is just out of my grasp in standing on the step stool. My husband is
>a bit shorter than me. He can reach them if he puts two phone books under
>the steep ladder. I don't think this is a smart thing to do. I would
>gladly hire my young adult nephew to do this because this is the sort of
>thing he likes to do to make some extra money, but... I think he is only my
>height, if that. And he doesn't own a ladder. I had my husband's friend
>change one of the bulbs before he moved away. He is very tall and had no
>problem at all reaching it. One friend of mine has a grandson who is the
>age of my nephew. I believe he is taller but he currently has a knee
>surgery and is awaiting surgery for it so he would not be a good one for
>climbing a ladder, even if we did have one that would work.
>
>I might see if the plumber I hired recently for three different things could
>do the bulbs along the front of the house. He does construction as well and
>he doesn't seem to charge a lot. I also don't know for sure what kind of
>bulbs are supposed to go in there. The first one that was changed was done
>by the milkman. He was quite tall. But I no longer get milk delivery. It
>was one of those new coiled bulbs that they are pushing us to use. But...
>Those all say not for outdoor use. It was a small one though. Smaller than
>your standard incandescent light. Anyway... I should think this guy would
>have a ladder that would work.

Every homeowner should own their own ladder(s).

Whoever wired your house is an imbecile, have all those ridiculous
fixtures changed, you probably don't even need many of them, and what
kind of moron installs a light fixture that is blocked by the opened
garage door . duh . have it moved! But then you aren't very
resourceful either, you could have changed that lamp in daytime and/or
used a flashlight. As to relamping the the garage door opener I can't
imagine not being able to open the translucent plastic cowl, it's
cheap plastic, so what if it cracks from prying at it, and then do not
close it again, it will give a lot more light without the silly cover,
it's best to remove that cover and throw it in the trash. And even if
your garage has no windows for light you can use the light from the
opener to relamp the fixture covered by the door. And all screw-in
lamps especially those outdoors should have their threads coated with
a thin layer of silicone grease, or even vaselene, and don't screw
them in any tighter than to make contact. I really don't buy into all
your silly alibis... there are lots of people with handicaps, instead
of constantly whining they make things at home handicapped accessible.
My kitchen has two bottom corner cabinets with doors too narrow for me
to reach very far into, so I bought one of those grab-it sticks
because that's where I store all my Crystal Palace. LOL
One of the handiest tools I own is an extra long back scratcher I made
with a 3/8" hardwood dowel and a bent fork attached with epoxy, it's
great for reaching into narrow spaces and under furniture for
retrieving cat toys... but originally I made it for keeping at work to
use as a back scratcher, none of the ones you can buy are made long
enough nor are they rigid enough for a really good back scratching.

On 10/04/2011 2:49 AM, Giusi wrote:
> "Julie > ha scritto nel messaggio
> ...
>
>
>> She is not like that.
>
> We have only your description to go by, and you make it sound like she is an
> hysteric. I know things about your child I wouldn't expect to know about
> mine.



Indeed. Not too long ago were were told about how horribly she acted in
a restaurant. She was so bad that Julie was tempted to leave her there
on her own. If my son had behaved that badly in a restaurant he would
have been taken out and it would have been a long time before I took him
out to a restaurant.

On Sat, 9 Apr 2011 20:15:19 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Ranée at Arabian Knits" > wrote in message
...
>> In article
>> >,
>> "Catmandy (Sheryl)" > wrote:
>>
>>> I like a bargain as much as anyone. I love free stuff if its something
>>> I use. But there comes a point where even if it's free, too much is
>>> too much.
>>
>> I agree with you, though I think my idea of how much that is might be
>> different. I don't think having more than a year or two's supply makes
>> sense for anyone. However, for us 150 boxes of pasta is just under a
>> two year supply.
>
>For us, 150 boxes would last for many years, if they would keep for that
>long. We might use 1/2 or 1/3 of a box a week. Or we might not. We don't
>eat pasta every week. If my husband is home and I am cooking pasta, I might
>cook the whole box if it is a 4 serving box. Some of what I buy is 6
>servings.
>>
>> Like I said, I didn't know if they were large families or not. It
>> sounds like they weren't, in which case, there cannot be a need for that
>> much unless they cook for a church soup kitchen or something like that
>> on a regular basis.
>
>Right. They weren't at all.
>>
>> I just know that in an economy such as we have, in a place where we
>> live now that is more remote, and even in our former home which wasn't
>> remote at all, but did have weather issues, still, it makes me feel a
>> bit more secure to have enough to eat for the family regardless. If it
>> really came down to it, we could eat out of our freezers and pantry for
>> quite a while, though the meals wouldn't be nearly as exciting.
>
>These people didn't live in remote areas at all.
>>
>> We live in a much smaller home now, though, so I am more careful
>> about what we store. When we moved, I had enough toothpaste to get us
>> through for about six or seven months before we had to buy any. It
>> wasn't out of any weird hoarding, but when it went on sale for $0.79 or
>> $0.99 I'd buy two (which was the limit). Every time it went on sale for
>> that price. It meant we saved over half the cost and didn't have to buy
>> it when it was more expensive.
>
>I buy the toothpaste at Costco because it is cheaper but I always have that
>one last tube that has expired before I can get to it. I am the only one
>who uses it though. Husband uses a different kind and so does daughter.

Toothpaste expires? I mostly use whichever my dentist gives with each
visit, along with a toothbrush and floss. I buy different ones to but
to be honest I don't think any toothpaste is better than any other...
and most folks use too much, there is no reason to squeeze out a strip
more than 3/8"... I've seen people squeeze out enough to cover the
entire brush twice, and then they brush for like only fifteen seconds.

On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 07:04:26 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

>In article
>,
> Miche > wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> "Giusi" > wrote:
>>
>> > "Julie Bove" > ha scritto nel messaggio
>> > ...
>> > >
>> > > "Giusi" > wrote in message
>> > >> "Julie Bove" > ha scritto nel messaggio
>> > >> ...
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>> She is not like that.
>> > >>
>> > >> We have only your description to go by, and you make it sound like she
>> > >> is
>> > >> an hysteric. I know things about your child I wouldn't expect to know
>> > >> about mine.
>> > >
>> > > I never said she was hysterical.
>> >
>> > Yes you did, you just didn't use that word. Over and over you have
>> > described your child doing things that sound hysterical or even mad.
>> > Causing such a scene in a restaurant that she could blackmail you into
>> > giving in to her demands was my first recollection of it.
>>
>> Screaming over the texture of yogurt is not normal.
>>
>> Miche
>
>Indeed...
>
>She may want to consider taking her daughter to a child psychologist to
>find out why she over-reacts to little things. It's possible tho' that
>she is simply imitating the adults around her?

Acorns.

On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 11:03:57 +0100, Janet > wrote:

>In article >, says...
>>
>> "Giusi" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > "Julie Bove" > ha scritto nel messaggio
>> > ...
>> >
>> >
>> >> She is not like that.
>> >
>> > We have only your description to go by, and you make it sound like she is
>> > an hysteric. I know things about your child I wouldn't expect to know
>> > about mine.
>>
>> I never said she was hysterical.
>
> You create a very negative impression of your daughter and husband by
>what you say about their abnormal behaviour .

But in defence many posters here describe in minute detail and on a
constant basis their intimate personal conditions and behaviourisms
that normal folks typically don't share in a public venue.

On Sat, 09 Apr 2011 21:49:09 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

> On 4/8/2011 6:52 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 18:42:01 -0400, >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 4/8/2011 3:46 PM, Lou Decruss wrote:
> >>>
> >>> You post way too much OT shit here to be criticizing what anyone else
> >>> posts.
> >>
> >> Fair enough.
> >
> > You post OT? Since when?
> >
>
> Oh I know I do. I just didn't think it was more than others. I guess
> I've hit the radar of some of the old-time regs here. Oh well.

You go no more off topic than anyone else, IMO. The only net nannies
here are those who should be moving on anyway.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

Ranée at Arabian Knits wrote:

> "Nancy Young" > wrote:
>
>> Ranée at Arabian Knits wrote:

>>> Like I said, I didn't know if they were large families or not. It
>>> sounds like they weren't, in which case, there cannot be a need for
>>> that much unless they cook for a church soup kitchen or something
>>> like that on a regular basis.
>>
>> I think if you saw the shows you'd have a better idea what we're
>> thinking. From your perspective, in your situation, all of this
>> compulsive purchasing makes more sense than it does to most
>> people. But when you see someone scooping up 37 bottles of
>> (what was that, Maalox or something?) and filling up their husband's
>> last place to sit and watch tv with boxes and boxes of pasta, you
>> get that these people have gone over the edge.
>
> That is over the top. I think most of these shows are just about
> shock value, though, anyway.

Well, the name of the show isn't I like coupons! (laugh) It's
Extreme Couponing.

BTW, there was one family with (??) 7 children or so, and they
have a stated goal of saving enough to pay for their education.
The whole family gets involved. I think you could get behind those
people except that the mother jokingly referred to her litter. She
wasn't buying stuff just to put it on shelves to look at.

nancy

Omelet wrote:

> "Nancy Young" > wrote:
>
>> I buy a year's worth of toothpaste online
>> as it's a kind you don't find in the store any longer, but it doesn't
>> take up a ton of room,
>
> Thanks for this! Both of the health food stores I frequent have quit
> carrying my favorite toothpaste! Nutrabiotic Dental Gel.
>
> Just checked Amazon and it's there! Yay! <happy dance> Tom's is a
> poor second when compared to that stuff. :-)

Cool!

> I don't know why I'd not thought of looking for it on line...
>
> Thanks again! :-)

Hee, no problem. I spent a lot of time perusing the toothpaste
aisle in every store and pharmacy I shopped in before I said
the heck with it, look onliine. Now it's easier to just buy a bunch
and be done with it.

nancy