On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:26:28 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
> wrote:

> That is ludicrous, Tats rule!

I can't begin to say how much I hate tattoos.

> First your making an assumption that all
> young people are beautiful... Not! Even then, I like the "show me yours
> and I will show mine"... Leads to fun and promiscuity

Okay, I'll give you that.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

On Apr 13, 9:56*am, sf > wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:26:28 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
>
> > wrote:
> > That is ludicrous, Tats rule!
>
> I can't begin to say how much I hate tattoos.

Me too. I expressed this hate one time and got a barrage of emails
from Chemo the Clown berating me for not loving tattoos. What a
loser.

projectile vomit chick > wrote:
> On Apr 13, 9:56 am, sf > wrote:
>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:26:28 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
>>
>> > wrote:
>>> That is ludicrous, Tats rule!
>>
>> I can't begin to say how much I hate tattoos.
>
> Me too. I expressed this hate one time and got a barrage of emails
> from Chemo the Clown berating me for not loving tattoos. What a
> loser.

I find those that are against tattoos are usually self righteous
individuals that love to tell others how to live their life. I am all for
freedom of speech and expression for all without hating those that do or
those that do not.

--
Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 20:04:59 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
> wrote:

> projectile vomit chick > wrote:
> > On Apr 13, 9:56 am, sf > wrote:
> >> On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:26:28 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
> >>
> >> > wrote:
> >>> That is ludicrous, Tats rule!
> >>
> >> I can't begin to say how much I hate tattoos.
> >
> > Me too. I expressed this hate one time and got a barrage of emails
> > from Chemo the Clown berating me for not loving tattoos. What a
> > loser.
>
> I find those that are against tattoos are usually self righteous
> individuals that love to tell others how to live their life. I am all for
> freedom of speech and expression for all without hating those that do or
> those that do not.

We're as free to express our opinion about tattoos and other forms of
body disfigurement as you are to do it to yourself.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

On 13/04/2011 4:04 PM, Nad R wrote:
> projectile vomit > wrote:
>> On Apr 13, 9:56 am, > wrote:
>>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:26:28 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
>>>
>>> > wrote:
>>>> That is ludicrous, Tats rule!
>>>
>>> I can't begin to say how much I hate tattoos.
>>
>> Me too. I expressed this hate one time and got a barrage of emails
>> from Chemo the Clown berating me for not loving tattoos. What a
>> loser.
>
> I find those that are against tattoos are usually self righteous
> individuals that love to tell others how to live their life. I am all for
> freedom of speech and expression for all without hating those that do or
> those that do not.
>
Ahh... I see. A tattoo is the new uniform to express oneself and letting
the world know that they are open minded free thinkers.

I have never seen a tattoo that I was impressed with. I will admit that
they look better when they are new than they do when they get old and
faded and start disappearing into fat, wrinkly skin. Anyone
contemplating getting a tattoo should be reminded that they are
permanent and that looks attractive on young skin will not look good on
grandma skin


FWIW... I was at the gym today and there was a woman who had one of
those very original barbed wire tattoos on her upper arm, and probably
had. it down around the time Pamela Anderson had her's done. It is no
longer a deep black. It was more grey-blue. and it jiggled when she
moved her arms.

Dave Smith > wrote:
> On 13/04/2011 4:04 PM, Nad R wrote:
>> projectile vomit > wrote:
>>> On Apr 13, 9:56 am, > wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:26:28 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
>>>>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> That is ludicrous, Tats rule!
>>>>
>>>> I can't begin to say how much I hate tattoos.
>>>
>>> Me too. I expressed this hate one time and got a barrage of emails
>>> from Chemo the Clown berating me for not loving tattoos. What a
>>> loser.
>>
>> I find those that are against tattoos are usually self righteous
>> individuals that love to tell others how to live their life. I am all for
>> freedom of speech and expression for all without hating those that do or
>> those that do not.
>>
> Ahh... I see. A tattoo is the new uniform to express oneself and letting
> the world know that they are open minded free thinkers.
>
> I have never seen a tattoo that I was impressed with. I will admit that
> they look better when they are new than they do when they get old and
> faded and start disappearing into fat, wrinkly skin. Anyone contemplating
> getting a tattoo should be reminded that they are permanent and that
> looks attractive on young skin will not look good on grandma skin
>
>
> FWIW... I was at the gym today and there was a woman who had one of those
> very original barbed wire tattoos on her upper arm, and probably had. it
> down around the time Pamela Anderson had her's done. It is no longer a
> deep black. It was more grey-blue. and it jiggled when she moved her arms.

Sucks getting old.

--
Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

In article >,
Dave Smith > wrote:

> On 13/04/2011 4:04 PM, Nad R wrote:
> > projectile vomit > wrote:
> >> On Apr 13, 9:56 am, > wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:26:28 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
> >>>
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>> That is ludicrous, Tats rule!
> >>>
> >>> I can't begin to say how much I hate tattoos.
> >>
> >> Me too. I expressed this hate one time and got a barrage of emails
> >> from Chemo the Clown berating me for not loving tattoos. What a
> >> loser.
> >
> > I find those that are against tattoos are usually self righteous
> > individuals that love to tell others how to live their life. I am all for
> > freedom of speech and expression for all without hating those that do or
> > those that do not.
> >
> Ahh... I see. A tattoo is the new uniform to express oneself and letting
> the world know that they are open minded free thinkers.
>
> I have never seen a tattoo that I was impressed with. I will admit that
> they look better when they are new than they do when they get old and
> faded and start disappearing into fat, wrinkly skin. Anyone
> contemplating getting a tattoo should be reminded that they are
> permanent and that looks attractive on young skin will not look good on
> grandma skin

I don't understand the concept of "hating" tattoos. I certainly
understand not wanting one. I don't want one. I'm not a big fan of
them. Still, I can enjoy looking at most tattoos. I mentioned this one
earlier, and I *am* impressed with it:

http://i55.tinypic.com/22ki2g.jpg

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 21:28:51 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
> wrote:

>Sucks getting old.

"Old" depends on the perception of the person thinking "Old".

To a 5 year old, anyone 18 or older is "Old"

To an 80 year old, a person who is 100 is really "Old"

I'm 58 and I believe I'm pretty young in comparison to many, many
others.

Not getting a chance to be "Old" sucks way more than being or getting
"Old".

Getting old is wonderful compared to the alternative.

"Dan Abel" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> Dave Smith > wrote:
>
>> On 13/04/2011 4:04 PM, Nad R wrote:
>> > projectile vomit > wrote:
>> >> On Apr 13, 9:56 am, > wrote:
>> >>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:26:28 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
>> >>>
>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>>> That is ludicrous, Tats rule!
>> >>>
>> >>> I can't begin to say how much I hate tattoos.
>> >>
>> >> Me too. I expressed this hate one time and got a barrage of emails
>> >> from Chemo the Clown berating me for not loving tattoos. What a
>> >> loser.
>> >
>> > I find those that are against tattoos are usually self righteous
>> > individuals that love to tell others how to live their life. I am all
>> > for
>> > freedom of speech and expression for all without hating those that do
>> > or
>> > those that do not.
>> >
>> Ahh... I see. A tattoo is the new uniform to express oneself and letting
>> the world know that they are open minded free thinkers.
>>
>> I have never seen a tattoo that I was impressed with. I will admit that
>> they look better when they are new than they do when they get old and
>> faded and start disappearing into fat, wrinkly skin. Anyone
>> contemplating getting a tattoo should be reminded that they are
>> permanent and that looks attractive on young skin will not look good on
>> grandma skin
>
> I don't understand the concept of "hating" tattoos. I certainly
> understand not wanting one. I don't want one. I'm not a big fan of
> them. Still, I can enjoy looking at most tattoos. I mentioned this one
> earlier, and I *am* impressed with it:
>
> http://i55.tinypic.com/22ki2g.jpg

I can't say that I hate anything. I don't like tattoos and would certainly
never get them. I am usually not offended by them, but once in a while I
will see one that I very much dislike. But for the most part I don't care
if other people get them or not.

Dan Abel > wrote in
:


>
> I don't understand the concept of "hating" tattoos. I certainly
> understand not wanting one. I don't want one. I'm not a big fan of
> them. Still, I can enjoy looking at most tattoos. I mentioned this one
> earlier, and I *am* impressed with it:
>
> http://i55.tinypic.com/22ki2g.jpg
>



*Very* nice!!

Both the tat, and her :-)




--
Peter Lucas
Hobart
Tasmania

Nothing ever truely dies
the Universe wastes nothing
everything is simply... transformed

In article
>,
Dan Abel > wrote:

> In article >,
> Dave Smith > wrote:
>
> > On 13/04/2011 4:04 PM, Nad R wrote:
> > > projectile vomit > wrote:
> > >> On Apr 13, 9:56 am, > wrote:
> > >>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:26:28 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
> > >>>
> > >>> > wrote:
> > >>>> That is ludicrous, Tats rule!
> > >>>
> > >>> I can't begin to say how much I hate tattoos.
> > >>
> > >> Me too. I expressed this hate one time and got a barrage of emails
> > >> from Chemo the Clown berating me for not loving tattoos. What a
> > >> loser.
> > >
> > > I find those that are against tattoos are usually self righteous
> > > individuals that love to tell others how to live their life. I am all for
> > > freedom of speech and expression for all without hating those that do or
> > > those that do not.
> > >
> > Ahh... I see. A tattoo is the new uniform to express oneself and letting
> > the world know that they are open minded free thinkers.
> >
> > I have never seen a tattoo that I was impressed with. I will admit that
> > they look better when they are new than they do when they get old and
> > faded and start disappearing into fat, wrinkly skin. Anyone
> > contemplating getting a tattoo should be reminded that they are
> > permanent and that looks attractive on young skin will not look good on
> > grandma skin
>
> I don't understand the concept of "hating" tattoos. I certainly
> understand not wanting one. I don't want one. I'm not a big fan of
> them. Still, I can enjoy looking at most tattoos. I mentioned this one
> earlier, and I *am* impressed with it:
>
> http://i55.tinypic.com/22ki2g.jpg

Rightly so, that's gorgeous! And it was her first? Whoa.

Miche

--
Electricians do it in three phases

sf wrote:

>On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 20:04:59 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
> wrote:
>
>> projectile vomit chick > wrote:
>> > On Apr 13, 9:56 am, sf > wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:26:28 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
>> >>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>> That is ludicrous, Tats rule!
>> >>
>> >> I can't begin to say how much I hate tattoos.
>> >
>> > Me too. I expressed this hate one time and got a barrage of emails
>> > from Chemo the Clown berating me for not loving tattoos. What a
>> > loser.
>>
>> I find those that are against tattoos are usually self righteous
>> individuals that love to tell others how to live their life. I am all for
>> freedom of speech and expression for all without hating those that do or
>> those that do not.
>
>We're as free to express our opinion about tattoos and other forms of
>body disfigurement as you are to do it to yourself.

Only when people with tattoos proselytize their benefits, otherwise
STFU... I've never met anyone with tattoos trying to convince others
to be tattooed too, not even those who earn their living as
tattooists. In fact whenever anyone queries about my tattoos I tell
them it's something only they can decide and if they need others
approval and/or if they have any doubts whatsoever don't... if anyone
needs to ask then don't. I don't think it's anyones business unless
it's a minor. Body art harms no one. I don't particularly care for
piercings and plastic boobs but who am I to voice my opinion unless
asked. What harms more people more than anything else, especially
something so benign as bodyart, is religion... religion, all religion,
harms more people than all other plagues/poxes combined. There is no
such thing as a peaceful religion, all religion by its very nature is
violent, in fact nothing occuring on this planet is more violent,
there is nothing else man can ever devise that'll be more violent...
every weapon man has devised including nuclear has been to promote one
religious belief over another... it's all and only about my god is
better than your god... can't get any lower IQ, same IQ as sheep.. no
different than arguing whose shit don't stink.

On Apr 13, 7:30*pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> sf wrote:
> >On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 20:04:59 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
> > wrote:
>
> >> projectile vomit chick > wrote:
> >> > On Apr 13, 9:56 am, sf > wrote:
> >> >> On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:26:28 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >>> That is ludicrous, Tats rule!
>
> >> >> I can't begin to say how much I hate tattoos.
>
> >> > Me too. *I expressed this hate one time and got a barrage of emails
> >> > from Chemo the Clown berating me for not loving tattoos. *What a
> >> > loser.
>
> >> I find those that are against tattoos are usually self righteous
> >> individuals that love to tell others how to live their life. I am all for
> >> freedom of speech and expression for all without hating those that do or
> >> those that do not.
>
> >We're as free to express our opinion about tattoos and other forms of
> >body disfigurement as you are to do it to yourself.
>
> Only when people with tattoos proselytize their benefits, otherwise
> STFU... I've never met anyone with tattoos trying to convince others
> to be tattooed too, not even those who earn their living as
> tattooists. *In fact whenever anyone queries about my tattoos I tell
> them it's something only they can decide and if they need others
> approval and/or if they have any doubts whatsoever don't... if anyone
> needs to ask then don't. *I don't think it's anyones business unless
> it's a minor. *Body art harms no one. *I don't particularly care for
> piercings and plastic boobs but who am I to voice my opinion unless
> asked. *What harms more people more than anything else, especially
> something so benign as bodyart, is religion... religion, all religion,
> harms more people than all other plagues/poxes combined. *There is no
> such thing as a peaceful religion, all religion by its very nature is
> violent, in fact nothing occuring on this planet is more violent,
> there is nothing else man can ever devise that'll be more violent...
> every weapon man has devised including nuclear has been to promote one
> religious belief over another... it's all and only about my god is
> better than your god... can't get any lower IQ, same IQ as sheep.. no
> different than arguing whose shit don't stink.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Mohandas Gandhi Quotes. I like your Christ, I do not like your
Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ. Mohandas Gandhi

On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 18:26:15 -0400, Landon > wrote:

>On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 21:28:51 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
> wrote:
>
>>Sucks getting old.
>
>"Old" depends on the perception of the person thinking "Old".
>
>To a 5 year old, anyone 18 or older is "Old"
>
>To an 80 year old, a person who is 100 is really "Old"
>
>I'm 58 and I believe I'm pretty young in comparison to many, many
>others.
>
>Not getting a chance to be "Old" sucks way more than being or getting
>"Old".
>
>Getting old is wonderful compared to the alternative.

Exactly. No one age is better than another. It's not about how long
one lives it's about how one lives. I think it's more advantageous to
focus on the here and now... people who live in the past are already
dead. Didja ever notice how people with terminal illnesses only care
to reminisce and constantly peruse photographs of long dead relatives.

On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 15:30:14 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Dan Abel" > wrote in message
...
>> In article >,
>> Dave Smith > wrote:
>>
>>> On 13/04/2011 4:04 PM, Nad R wrote:
>>> > projectile vomit > wrote:
>>> >> On Apr 13, 9:56 am, > wrote:
>>> >>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:26:28 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
>>> >>>
>>> >>> > wrote:
>>> >>>> That is ludicrous, Tats rule!
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I can't begin to say how much I hate tattoos.
>>> >>
>>> >> Me too. I expressed this hate one time and got a barrage of emails
>>> >> from Chemo the Clown berating me for not loving tattoos. What a
>>> >> loser.
>>> >
>>> > I find those that are against tattoos are usually self righteous
>>> > individuals that love to tell others how to live their life. I am all
>>> > for
>>> > freedom of speech and expression for all without hating those that do
>>> > or
>>> > those that do not.
>>> >
>>> Ahh... I see. A tattoo is the new uniform to express oneself and letting
>>> the world know that they are open minded free thinkers.
>>>
>>> I have never seen a tattoo that I was impressed with. I will admit that
>>> they look better when they are new than they do when they get old and
>>> faded and start disappearing into fat, wrinkly skin. Anyone
>>> contemplating getting a tattoo should be reminded that they are
>>> permanent and that looks attractive on young skin will not look good on
>>> grandma skin
>>
>> I don't understand the concept of "hating" tattoos. I certainly
>> understand not wanting one. I don't want one. I'm not a big fan of
>> them. Still, I can enjoy looking at most tattoos. I mentioned this one
>> earlier, and I *am* impressed with it:
>>
>> http://i55.tinypic.com/22ki2g.jpg
>
>I can't say that I hate anything.

But you hate yogurt.

>I don't like tattoos and would certainly
>never get them. I am usually not offended by them, but once in a while I
>will see one that I very much dislike. But for the most part I don't care
>if other people get them or not.
>

"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 15:30:14 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Dan Abel" > wrote in message
...
>>> In article >,
>>> Dave Smith > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 13/04/2011 4:04 PM, Nad R wrote:
>>>> > projectile vomit > wrote:
>>>> >> On Apr 13, 9:56 am, > wrote:
>>>> >>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:26:28 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> > wrote:
>>>> >>>> That is ludicrous, Tats rule!
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I can't begin to say how much I hate tattoos.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Me too. I expressed this hate one time and got a barrage of emails
>>>> >> from Chemo the Clown berating me for not loving tattoos. What a
>>>> >> loser.
>>>> >
>>>> > I find those that are against tattoos are usually self righteous
>>>> > individuals that love to tell others how to live their life. I am all
>>>> > for
>>>> > freedom of speech and expression for all without hating those that do
>>>> > or
>>>> > those that do not.
>>>> >
>>>> Ahh... I see. A tattoo is the new uniform to express oneself and
>>>> letting
>>>> the world know that they are open minded free thinkers.
>>>>
>>>> I have never seen a tattoo that I was impressed with. I will admit that
>>>> they look better when they are new than they do when they get old and
>>>> faded and start disappearing into fat, wrinkly skin. Anyone
>>>> contemplating getting a tattoo should be reminded that they are
>>>> permanent and that looks attractive on young skin will not look good on
>>>> grandma skin
>>>
>>> I don't understand the concept of "hating" tattoos. I certainly
>>> understand not wanting one. I don't want one. I'm not a big fan of
>>> them. Still, I can enjoy looking at most tattoos. I mentioned this one
>>> earlier, and I *am* impressed with it:
>>>
>>> http://i55.tinypic.com/22ki2g.jpg
>>
>>I can't say that I hate anything.
>
> But you hate yogurt.

Okay, I guess that's true.

Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:

> it's a minor. Body art harms no one. I don't particularly care for
> piercings and plastic boobs but who am I to voice my opinion unless
> asked.

I like chicks with the body art of artificially enhanced super sized boobs.
Just like the mad scientist in "Woody Allen's movie: Everything you wanted
to know about ..."

--
Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 01:32:29 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
> wrote:

>Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>
>> it's a minor. Body art harms no one. I don't particularly care for
>> piercings and plastic boobs but who am I to voice my opinion unless
>> asked.
>
>I like chicks with the body art of artificially enhanced super sized boobs.

You can apply for a positiom at the Michlin tyre store, you can be a
leak tester sucking valve stems.

i don't hate tattoos, they just aren't for me, what you do with your own
body is up to you... and i thought we just had a huge discussion about the
word hate and how it was so horrible to hate things,... seems to me that if
someone wants tattos its up to them... the fact that i don't find them
attractive or a good health choice is my opinion and shouldn't affect your
opinion unless you ask my opinion, otherwise it should not affect anone but
me...Lee
"Nad R" > wrote in message
...
> projectile vomit chick > wrote:
>> On Apr 13, 9:56 am, sf > wrote:
>>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:26:28 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
>>>
>>> > wrote:
>>>> That is ludicrous, Tats rule!
>>>
>>> I can't begin to say how much I hate tattoos.
>>
>> Me too. I expressed this hate one time and got a barrage of emails
>> from Chemo the Clown berating me for not loving tattoos. What a
>> loser.
>
> I find those that are against tattoos are usually self righteous
> individuals that love to tell others how to live their life. I am all for
> freedom of speech and expression for all without hating those that do or
> those that do not.
>
> --
> Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 20:45:05 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:

>On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 18:26:15 -0400, Landon > wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 21:28:51 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
> wrote:
>>
>>>Sucks getting old.
>>
>>"Old" depends on the perception of the person thinking "Old".
>>
>>To a 5 year old, anyone 18 or older is "Old"
>>
>>To an 80 year old, a person who is 100 is really "Old"
>>
>>I'm 58 and I believe I'm pretty young in comparison to many, many
>>others.
>>
>>Not getting a chance to be "Old" sucks way more than being or getting
>>"Old".
>>
>>Getting old is wonderful compared to the alternative.
>
>Exactly. No one age is better than another. It's not about how long
>one lives it's about how one lives. I think it's more advantageous to
>focus on the here and now... people who live in the past are already
>dead. Didja ever notice how people with terminal illnesses only care
>to reminisce and constantly peruse photographs of long dead relatives.

The mental turmoil that most people go through when facing the end of
their lives is perfectly natural and has happened since time began.

Most often they look into their past to reflect on their lives, not to
try reliving it.

Deeply religious people might wish to review their lives to assure
themselves that they have done nothing to warrant what they think
might be eternal damnation.

Some may do it just to relive the memory of a wonderful time that they
had. I certainly wouldn't begrudge them that final pleasure of that is
what makes them more at ease with their fate.

I live each day for itself. My life is very simple. I love tinkering
with all manner of things and keep myself very busy doing so. I've
heard others say; "I'll get so bored if I retire". All I have to say
to that is they must not have many interests. I've been retired now
for 2 years and have loved every single minute of it. I've been so
busy I don't know where to turn next! What a blast!

On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 17:58:18 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>>"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
>> But you hate yogurt.
>
>Okay, I guess that's true.

That's ok Julie, I'll eat or cook with all of yours! I could survive
on it I think...It's like a yummy desert to me.

It was more grey-blue. and it jiggled when she
moved her arms.

On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 17:37:28 -0700 (PDT), rosie >
wrote:

> On Apr 13, 7:30*pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> > sf wrote:
> > >On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 20:04:59 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >> projectile vomit chick > wrote:
> > >> > On Apr 13, 9:56 am, sf > wrote:
> > >> >> On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:26:28 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
> >
> > >> >> > wrote:
> > >> >>> That is ludicrous, Tats rule!
> >
> > >> >> I can't begin to say how much I hate tattoos.
> >
> > >> > Me too. *I expressed this hate one time and got a barrage of emails
> > >> > from Chemo the Clown berating me for not loving tattoos. *What a
> > >> > loser.
> >
> > >> I find those that are against tattoos are usually self righteous
> > >> individuals that love to tell others how to live their life. I am all for
> > >> freedom of speech and expression for all without hating those that do or
> > >> those that do not.
> >
> > >We're as free to express our opinion about tattoos and other forms of
> > >body disfigurement as you are to do it to yourself.
> >
> > Only when people with tattoos proselytize their benefits, otherwise
> > STFU... I've never met anyone with tattoos trying to convince others
> > to be tattooed too, not even those who earn their living as
> > tattooists. *In fact whenever anyone queries about my tattoos I tell
> > them it's something only they can decide and if they need others
> > approval and/or if they have any doubts whatsoever don't... if anyone
> > needs to ask then don't. *I don't think it's anyones business unless
> > it's a minor. *Body art harms no one. *I don't particularly care for
> > piercings and plastic boobs but who am I to voice my opinion unless
> > asked. *What harms more people more than anything else, especially
> > something so benign as bodyart, is religion... religion, all religion,
> > harms more people than all other plagues/poxes combined. *There is no
> > such thing as a peaceful religion, all religion by its very nature is
> > violent, in fact nothing occuring on this planet is more violent,
> > there is nothing else man can ever devise that'll be more violent...
> > every weapon man has devised including nuclear has been to promote one
> > religious belief over another... it's all and only about my god is
> > better than your god... can't get any lower IQ, same IQ as sheep.. no
> > different than arguing whose shit don't stink.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Mohandas Gandhi Quotes. I like your Christ, I do not like your
> Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ. Mohandas Gandhi

Sheldon and people like him want to be in other people's faces with
their body art, but they can't take it when someone says it's just
body disfigurement. Too bad, so sad.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 15:17:11 -0700, Dan Abel > wrote:

> I don't understand the concept of "hating" tattoos. I certainly
> understand not wanting one. I don't want one. I'm not a big fan of
> them. Still, I can enjoy looking at most tattoos. I mentioned this one
> earlier, and I *am* impressed with it:
>
> http://i55.tinypic.com/22ki2g.jpg

I hate tattoos. My dad had them and I hated them. I hate every
tattoo I see. They are body disfigurement.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 22:36:52 GMT, "I'm back."
> wrote:

> Dan Abel > wrote in
> :
>
>
> >
> > I don't understand the concept of "hating" tattoos. I certainly
> > understand not wanting one. I don't want one. I'm not a big fan of
> > them. Still, I can enjoy looking at most tattoos. I mentioned this one
> > earlier, and I *am* impressed with it:
> >
> > http://i55.tinypic.com/22ki2g.jpg
> >
>
>
>
> *Very* nice!!
>
> Both the tat, and her :-)

She has nice boobs. Her tattoo is ugly, but at least she has an
identifying mark in case the worst happens.

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Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 15:17:11 -0700, Dan Abel > wrote:
>
>> I don't understand the concept of "hating" tattoos. I certainly
>> understand not wanting one. I don't want one. I'm not a big fan of
>> them. Still, I can enjoy looking at most tattoos. I mentioned this one
>> earlier, and I *am* impressed with it:
>>
>> http://i55.tinypic.com/22ki2g.jpg
>
> I hate tattoos. My dad had them and I hated them. I hate every
> tattoo I see. They are body disfigurement.

Do you feel the same way about piercings? Hair coloring? Hair cuts?
Cutting finger and toenails? Plastic surgery? Botox?

"Landon" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 21:28:51 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
> > wrote:
>
>>Sucks getting old.
>
> "Old" depends on the perception of the person thinking "Old".
>
> To a 5 year old, anyone 18 or older is "Old"
>
> To an 80 year old, a person who is 100 is really "Old"
>
> I'm 58 and I believe I'm pretty young in comparison to many, many
> others.
>
> Not getting a chance to be "Old" sucks way more than being or getting
> "Old".
>
> Getting old is wonderful compared to the alternative.

lol ain't that the truth) I always wonder about people who are rude about
old people. I suspect they don't believe they will ever be old... and not
in the way you mean either)

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On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 01:11:59 -0700, sf > wrote:
>Sheldon and people like him want to be in other people's faces with
>their body art, but they can't take it when someone says it's just
>body disfigurement. Too bad, so sad.

I think that tats are no more or less than close fitting clothing that
has been chosen by the individual for its design, theme and colors.

I can't imagine hating it any more than hating a dress that a women
might be wearing or a shirt that someone has on.

I might disagree with the theme of the tat or if it had some sort of
obscenity in it, but just because its ink under the skin instead of
cloth over the skin, it just makes no sense to me to hate them.

At what age did you decide that you hated tats, sf? I'm really
curious. Was there an event that spawned this hatred of all tats?

I mention this because I grew up seeing tats all over my Dad. He was a
career navy man and of the "old" Navy. The sailor then who had no tats
was considered the exception. My Dad had over one hundred of them on
his body.

Every ship he served on and the dates. All of his children and their
birth dates. Many were superstitions, like a pig on the top of one
foot and a chicken on top of the other because it was believed at that
time that neither of those creatures would drown when shipwrecked.

He had one done in China that covered his entire chest. An eagle,
snake and dragon entwined. It was beautiful artwork and would even be
wonderful looking on canvas.

Please, tell me what prompted you to actually "hate" something that is
nothing more than ink. How can one hate ink unless it is used to say
something hateful?

Please understand that I'm not "getting in your face" over this. I'm
simply curious about why you would hate something like tats. I mean, I
hate some things. I hate bullies. I hate it when someone is oppressed.
I hate cruelty to animals or humans. I hate it when someone steals
from a person who cannot absorb the theft. My list of things hated is
long, but each thing that I hate has a reason.

Are you willing to discuss with me your reason for hating tats? I hope
so, because I don't understand it.

On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 01:17:21 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 22:36:52 GMT, "I'm back."
> wrote:
>
>> Dan Abel > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>
>> >
>> > I don't understand the concept of "hating" tattoos. I certainly
>> > understand not wanting one. I don't want one. I'm not a big fan of
>> > them. Still, I can enjoy looking at most tattoos. I mentioned this one
>> > earlier, and I *am* impressed with it:
>> >
>> > http://i55.tinypic.com/22ki2g.jpg
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> *Very* nice!!
>>
>> Both the tat, and her :-)
>
>She has nice boobs. Her tattoo is ugly, but at least she has an
>identifying mark in case the worst happens.

Now see? We can agree on part of your dislike for this particular tat.
I think its pretty amateurish. It looks to me like a high school kids
drawing and lacks the refinement of a really good tattoo. Too much
open space filled with color. Not enough detail. Hardly anything on it
is interwoven. Its in an odd place on her body. I don't care much for
it as an expression of art and would never have that one put on me.

But I don't hate it. Its that young lady's way of expressing her
feelings. What's to hate? I find it odd that she would put a tat in a
place where she has to lift her arm for anyone to properly see it, but
that's my logical mind thinking, not my emotions.

On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 01:15:32 -0700, sf > wrote:

>I hate tattoos. My dad had them and I hated them. I hate every
>tattoo I see. They are body disfigurement.

I think everyone who has read your posts on the subject knows now that
for some reason, you have chosen to hate body ink.

The reason why you hate it is what I'm more interested in. Please
share that if it doesn't make you uncomfortable.

i will say this, if i got one i would feel i had disfigured my body, but if
you get one, i don't beleive its disfigurement unless you draw that
conclusion after you have gotten it... and i don't hate them they just
aren't for me, Lee
"Landon" > wrote in message
news
> On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 01:15:32 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
>>I hate tattoos. My dad had them and I hated them. I hate every
>>tattoo I see. They are body disfigurement.
>
> I think everyone who has read your posts on the subject knows now that
> for some reason, you have chosen to hate body ink.
>
> The reason why you hate it is what I'm more interested in. Please
> share that if it doesn't make you uncomfortable.

On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 01:38:50 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"sf" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 15:17:11 -0700, Dan Abel > wrote:
>>
>>> I don't understand the concept of "hating" tattoos. I certainly
>>> understand not wanting one. I don't want one. I'm not a big fan of
>>> them. Still, I can enjoy looking at most tattoos. I mentioned this one
>>> earlier, and I *am* impressed with it:
>>>
>>> http://i55.tinypic.com/22ki2g.jpg
>>
>> I hate tattoos. My dad had them and I hated them. I hate every
>> tattoo I see. They are body disfigurement.
>
>Do you feel the same way about piercings? Hair coloring? Hair cuts?
>Cutting finger and toenails? Plastic surgery? Botox?

Modifying ones body in some manner to make it appear more attractive
to oneself and others is a universal action that is in every culture
on our planet.

It can be as simple as clothing, but extends to almost every part of
the body and dozens of methods in every location known to mankind.

In less modern countries, colored mud is applied to the hair to make
oneself look more attractive. Almost all cultures have tattoos. Some,
like in China, are so intricate that one tattoo might take a year to
apply in stages and cover as much as 50% of a persons body.

Modern countries have evolved to make clothing more of a way of
expressing ones personal "art", but applied cosmetics and jewelry are
also very popular. Adorning ones body with precious metals and stones
is very similar to tattooing. So is dressing in a bright, colorful
manner. Both have the same goal as tattoos, but are interchangeable at
a moments whim.

I think a lot of people don't like tattoos because they are, more or
less, a permanent attachment to the body that is applied with needles
to shoot ink under the skin. The thought of doing that is repulsive to
some people. I've had people tell me that. Its a fear, not a like or
dislike really.

I see no difference between someone liking a beautiful piece of art
enough to hang it on the wall of their home for all to see, and
someone liking a drawing enough to have it placed on their body for
all to see. Both are an expression of their mind in that it symbolizes
some part of their inner soul. They have found something that stirs
their emotions for one reason or another and have chosen to announce
that discovery by placing it in a position that puts it into the eyes
of anyone who is either in their home or looking at the home of their
soul; their body.

I reserve my *hate* for things that are much more complicated than the
methods that others use to show their inner feelings. I may dislike a
certain painting or article of clothing, or even someone choice of
tattoo, but I wouldn't ever say that I hate any of them.

Hate is such a strong expression. Its the ultimate in emotional
repulsion and should be reserved for things that deserve its depth.

These of course are nothing more than my feelings and since I'm having
one of my sleepless nights, I thought I would share them.

To bed at 2am...back up at 4am, wide awake. Oh my! I see a nap in my
life later today. Thank goodness I like naps. hehe

the permanace and the degradation are two reasons i will not get one, the
fear of needles in general and the hep c issue are two others, have had a
friend with a liver replacement... hard road that, his was unrelated to tats
or hep c but after watching that process best to not tempt fate for me
anyway, Lee
"Landon" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 01:38:50 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"sf" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 15:17:11 -0700, Dan Abel > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't understand the concept of "hating" tattoos. I certainly
>>>> understand not wanting one. I don't want one. I'm not a big fan of
>>>> them. Still, I can enjoy looking at most tattoos. I mentioned this
>>>> one
>>>> earlier, and I *am* impressed with it:
>>>>
>>>> http://i55.tinypic.com/22ki2g.jpg
>>>
>>> I hate tattoos. My dad had them and I hated them. I hate every
>>> tattoo I see. They are body disfigurement.
>>
>>Do you feel the same way about piercings? Hair coloring? Hair cuts?
>>Cutting finger and toenails? Plastic surgery? Botox?
>
> Modifying ones body in some manner to make it appear more attractive
> to oneself and others is a universal action that is in every culture
> on our planet.
>
> It can be as simple as clothing, but extends to almost every part of
> the body and dozens of methods in every location known to mankind.
>
> In less modern countries, colored mud is applied to the hair to make
> oneself look more attractive. Almost all cultures have tattoos. Some,
> like in China, are so intricate that one tattoo might take a year to
> apply in stages and cover as much as 50% of a persons body.
>
> Modern countries have evolved to make clothing more of a way of
> expressing ones personal "art", but applied cosmetics and jewelry are
> also very popular. Adorning ones body with precious metals and stones
> is very similar to tattooing. So is dressing in a bright, colorful
> manner. Both have the same goal as tattoos, but are interchangeable at
> a moments whim.
>
> I think a lot of people don't like tattoos because they are, more or
> less, a permanent attachment to the body that is applied with needles
> to shoot ink under the skin. The thought of doing that is repulsive to
> some people. I've had people tell me that. Its a fear, not a like or
> dislike really.
>
> I see no difference between someone liking a beautiful piece of art
> enough to hang it on the wall of their home for all to see, and
> someone liking a drawing enough to have it placed on their body for
> all to see. Both are an expression of their mind in that it symbolizes
> some part of their inner soul. They have found something that stirs
> their emotions for one reason or another and have chosen to announce
> that discovery by placing it in a position that puts it into the eyes
> of anyone who is either in their home or looking at the home of their
> soul; their body.
>
> I reserve my *hate* for things that are much more complicated than the
> methods that others use to show their inner feelings. I may dislike a
> certain painting or article of clothing, or even someone choice of
> tattoo, but I wouldn't ever say that I hate any of them.
>
> Hate is such a strong expression. Its the ultimate in emotional
> repulsion and should be reserved for things that deserve its depth.
>
> These of course are nothing more than my feelings and since I'm having
> one of my sleepless nights, I thought I would share them.
>
> To bed at 2am...back up at 4am, wide awake. Oh my! I see a nap in my
> life later today. Thank goodness I like naps. hehe

"Landon" > ha scritto nel messaggio
sf > wrote:
>
>>I hate tattoos. My dad had them and I hated them. I hate every>>tattoo I
>>see. They are body disfigurement.
>

> The reason why you hate it is what I'm more interested in. Please> share
> that if it doesn't make you uncomfortable.

Does one always know? Is it important to know? I think it's important to
know why you are prejudiced against a color, race or class but not against
completely avoidable and extraneous self-decoration. I don't like them
either. I don't know why and I don't care why. I try not to let my
feelings slip over onto the person who has tattoos, but I am not sure I
always succeed. I would express myself with temporary ones were I so moved.
I actually did that once. Meh.

>"Landon" > wrote in message
>news
>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 01:15:32 -0700, sf > wrote:
>>
>>>I hate tattoos. My dad had them and I hated them. I hate every
>>>tattoo I see. They are body disfigurement.
>>
>> I think everyone who has read your posts on the subject knows now that
>> for some reason, you have chosen to hate body ink.
>>
>> The reason why you hate it is what I'm more interested in. Please
>> share that if it doesn't make you uncomfortable.
>
On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 06:00:50 -0500, "Storrmmee"
> wrote:
>i will say this, if i got one i would feel i had disfigured my body, but if
>you get one, i don't beleive its disfigurement unless you draw that
>conclusion after you have gotten it... and i don't hate them they just
>aren't for me, Lee

Disfigu To mar or spoil the appearance of.

Well, if you thought a tat would spoil the appearance of your body,
then you wouldn't get one. hehe

Others think that it doesn't disfigure but actually improves on the
appearance of their body.

Its all in perception.

"Landon" > ha scritto nel messaggio
> I reserve my *hate* for things that are much more complicated than the>
> methods that others use to show their inner feelings. I may dislike a
> certain painting or article of clothing, or even someone choice of>
> tattoo, but I wouldn't ever say that I hate any of them.

So tell me what that girl is saying about her innerself by having a stag and
a gaudy lily under her armpit. Or what about the one who has Disney
cartoons all over her back and chest? Yeah, I pretty much hate that look.

exactly and choice, its your body do with it as you will, Lee
"Landon" > wrote in message
...
> >"Landon" > wrote in message
>>news
>>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 01:15:32 -0700, sf > wrote:
>>>
>>>>I hate tattoos. My dad had them and I hated them. I hate every
>>>>tattoo I see. They are body disfigurement.
>>>
>>> I think everyone who has read your posts on the subject knows now that
>>> for some reason, you have chosen to hate body ink.
>>>
>>> The reason why you hate it is what I'm more interested in. Please
>>> share that if it doesn't make you uncomfortable.
>>
> On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 06:00:50 -0500, "Storrmmee"
> > wrote:
>>i will say this, if i got one i would feel i had disfigured my body, but
>>if
>>you get one, i don't beleive its disfigurement unless you draw that
>>conclusion after you have gotten it... and i don't hate them they just
>>aren't for me, Lee
>
> Disfigu To mar or spoil the appearance of.
>
> Well, if you thought a tat would spoil the appearance of your body,
> then you wouldn't get one. hehe
>
> Others think that it doesn't disfigure but actually improves on the
> appearance of their body.
>
> Its all in perception.

something dh and i were talking about th e other day, why get one on a part
of your body you can't see? Lee
"Giusi" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Landon" > ha scritto nel messaggio
>> I reserve my *hate* for things that are much more complicated than the>
>> methods that others use to show their inner feelings. I may dislike a
>> certain painting or article of clothing, or even someone choice of>
>> tattoo, but I wouldn't ever say that I hate any of them.
>
> So tell me what that girl is saying about her innerself by having a stag
> and a gaudy lily under her armpit. Or what about the one who has Disney
> cartoons all over her back and chest? Yeah, I pretty much hate that look.
>

Landon > wrote in newsjkdq69adpulo0bjdaim7ieoja0oqqpv2p@
4ax.com:

> On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 01:15:32 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
>>I hate tattoos. My dad had them and I hated them. I hate every
>>tattoo I see. They are body disfigurement.
>
> I think everyone who has read your posts on the subject knows now that
> for some reason, you have chosen to hate body ink.
>
> The reason why you hate it is what I'm more interested in. Please
> share that if it doesn't make you uncomfortable.




I think it's 'father issues'.



--
Peter Lucas
Hobart
Tasmania

Nothing ever truely dies
the Universe wastes nothing
everything is simply... transformed

On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 14:16:18 +0200, "Giusi" >
wrote:

>
>"Landon" > ha scritto nel messaggio
>> I reserve my *hate* for things that are much more complicated than the>
>> methods that others use to show their inner feelings. I may dislike a
>> certain painting or article of clothing, or even someone choice of>
>> tattoo, but I wouldn't ever say that I hate any of them.
>
>So tell me what that girl is saying about her innerself by having a stag and
>a gaudy lily under her armpit. Or what about the one who has Disney
>cartoons all over her back and chest? Yeah, I pretty much hate that look.

Perhaps the young lady with the stag and lily is reminded of a
wonderful story she loved as a child. It may give her a very good
feeling to look at her tat.

The ones who like to put tats that are cartoons on them? If it gives
them a feeling of joy to look at them or express deeper thoughts
through the "cartoons", then who are we to judge their method of
expression as long as it doesn't harm us?

If you dislike them, then aim your eyes at something that doesn't
offend you.

Hate? What a waste of emotion to hate someone else's expression of
their likes by putting colorful images on their body.