If you are in to wines or if you are a collector or.....if you just
love a good bottle of wine, like me, there are a few 'bargain' wine
websites around.

I have found one I like a lot. It is called Wines Till Sold Out.
Their model is that they offer
a good wine at a ridiculous low price till it is sold out, then they
offer another one. You must buy a minimum number of bottles...usually
3 or 4, and they ship for FREE.

Right now, today they are having a marathon sale. And the wines are
good and the prices are wonderful.

(I don't get any kickback or anything, I just wanted to share with the
group)

Sign up...you will get email announcements when they get new wines and
the prices really are good.

https://admin.wtso.com/index.php

On Apr 26, 10:44*am, ImStillMags > wrote:

...

> (I don't get any kickback or anything, I just wanted to share with the
> group)

...

Your sincerity shines through! :-)

My "house" wine is Carlo Rossi Paisano. The four-liter jug is
ungainly, so there's always a cut-glass decanter of it on my table. It
serves both as belly wash and sleeping potion.

Jerry
--
Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.

a friend and i were just discussing ordering wine on line... so karma is
good...

Lee
"Jerry Avins" > wrote in message
...
On Apr 26, 10:44 am, ImStillMags > wrote:

...

> (I don't get any kickback or anything, I just wanted to share with the
> group)

...

Your sincerity shines through! :-)

My "house" wine is Carlo Rossi Paisano. The four-liter jug is
ungainly, so there's always a cut-glass decanter of it on my table. It
serves both as belly wash and sleeping potion.

Jerry
--
Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.

On 4/26/2011 9:49 AM, Jerry Avins wrote:
> On Apr 26, 10:44 am, > wrote:
>
> ...
>
>> (I don't get any kickback or anything, I just wanted to share with the
>> group)
>
> ...
>
> Your sincerity shines through! :-)
>
> My "house" wine is Carlo Rossi Paisano. The four-liter jug is
> ungainly, so there's always a cut-glass decanter of it on my table. It
> serves both as belly wash and sleeping potion.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.


I like Carlo Rossi Burgundy. I also decant it into a cut glass decanter
I got for $10 at Marshall's.

We have a wine rack and people know we love to do winery tours and
tastings all over the world. It's amazing how that knowledge translates
to their enjoyment of my cheap wine. :-)

BTW, some of my favorite red wines are aged in stainless steel, vintage
Tuesday.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

it always cracks me up when people sniff their nose at "cheap" wines, then
when its in a crystal/cut glass vessel, they are just too impressed, lol,
Lee, who drinks wines that taste good to her, lol


"Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
eb.com...
> On 4/26/2011 9:49 AM, Jerry Avins wrote:
>> On Apr 26, 10:44 am, > wrote:
>>
>> ...
>>
>>> (I don't get any kickback or anything, I just wanted to share with the
>>> group)
>>
>> ...
>>
>> Your sincerity shines through! :-)
>>
>> My "house" wine is Carlo Rossi Paisano. The four-liter jug is
>> ungainly, so there's always a cut-glass decanter of it on my table. It
>> serves both as belly wash and sleeping potion.
>>
>> Jerry
>> --
>> Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.
>
>
> I like Carlo Rossi Burgundy. I also decant it into a cut glass decanter I
> got for $10 at Marshall's.
>
> We have a wine rack and people know we love to do winery tours and
> tastings all over the world. It's amazing how that knowledge translates
> to their enjoyment of my cheap wine. :-)
>
> BTW, some of my favorite red wines are aged in stainless steel, vintage
> Tuesday.
>
> --
> Janet Wilder
> Way-the-heck-south Texas
> Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

On Apr 26, 10:30*am, "Storrmmee" > wrote:
> it always cracks me up when people sniff their nose at "cheap" wines, then
> when its in a crystal/cut glass vessel, they are just too impressed, lol,
> Lee, who drinks wines that taste good to her, lol
>
> "Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
>
> eb.com...
>
>
>
> > On 4/26/2011 9:49 AM, Jerry Avins wrote:
> >> On Apr 26, 10:44 am, > *wrote:
>
> >> * * ...
>
> >>> (I don't get any kickback or anything, I just wanted to share with the
> >>> group)
>
> >> * *...
>
> >> Your sincerity shines through! :-)
>
> >> My "house" wine is Carlo Rossi Paisano. The four-liter jug is
> >> ungainly, so there's always a cut-glass decanter of it on my table. It
> >> serves both as belly wash and sleeping potion.
>
> >> Jerry
> >> --
> >> Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get..
>
> > I like Carlo Rossi Burgundy. I also decant it into a cut glass decanter I
> > got for $10 at Marshall's.
>
> > We have a wine rack and people know we love to do winery tours and
> > tastings all over the world. *It's amazing how that knowledge translates
> > to their enjoyment of my cheap wine. :-)
>
> > BTW, some of my favorite red wines are aged in stainless steel, vintage
> > Tuesday.
>
> > --
> > Janet Wilder
> > Way-the-heck-south Texas
> > Spelling doesn't count. *Cooking does.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

my everyday kind of wine is el cheapo too.......but I like to have the
opportunity to buy a really good wine at a discount.

"ImStillMags" > wrote in message
...

It is called Wines Till Sold Out.
> Their model is that they offer > a good wine at a ridiculous low price
> till it is sold out, then they > offer another one. You must buy a
> minimum number of bottles...usually > 3 or 4, and they ship for FREE.
>
>
That a Valpolicella is worth $50 is an intercoursing joke.

On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 20:24:08 -0700, "Kent" >
wrote:

>
> "ImStillMags" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> It is called Wines Till Sold Out.
> > Their model is that they offer > a good wine at a ridiculous low price
> > till it is sold out, then they > offer another one. You must buy a
> > minimum number of bottles...usually > 3 or 4, and they ship for FREE.
> >
> >
> That a Valpolicella is worth $50 is an intercoursing joke.
>
What would you expect to find it for?

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 20:24:08 -0700, "Kent" >
wrote:

>That a Valpolicella is worth $50 is an intercoursing joke.

I can't recall the last time I saw an Amarone at less than $50 on a
wine list.

-- Larry

> ha scritto nel messaggio

"Kent" >
> wrote:
>
>>That a Valpolicella is worth $50 is an intercoursing joke.
>
> I can't recall the last time I saw an Amarone at less than $50 on a
> wine list.

But an Amarone di Valpolicella is very different from Valpolicella.

On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:23:51 +0200, "Giusi" >
wrote:

>But an Amarone di Valpolicella is very different from Valpolicella.

The Amarone DOCG is part of the Valpolicella DOC.

-- Larry

> ha scritto nel messaggio "Giusi" >
> wrote:
>
>>But an Amarone di Valpolicella is very different from Valpolicella.
>
> The Amarone DOCG is part of the Valpolicella DOC.

So? Amarone is highly selective and not even made every year, whereas
Valpolicella is pizza wine made by factories as well as some vineyards.

> wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 20:24:08 -0700, "Kent" >
> wrote:
>
>>That a Valpolicella is worth $50 is an intercoursing joke.
>
> I can't recall the last time I saw an Amarone at less than $50 on a
> wine list.
>
> -- Larry

Key words "wine list"
That $50 on a wine list is about $15 to $18 retail.

"Ed Pawlowski" > ha scritto nel messaggio news:lIGdnc->
> wrote in message

"Kent" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>That a Valpolicella is worth $50 is an intercoursing joke.
>>
>> I can't recall the last time I saw an Amarone at less than $50 on a
>> wine list.
>
> Key words "wine list"
> That $50 on a wine list is about $15 to $18 retail.

Nah, for Amarone we pay more than that here in Italy. I always paid $45 and
up in shops in the US, and that was 15+- years ago. Believe me, nothing
Italian has gone down since then.

On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 08:41:43 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski"
> wrote:

>
> wrote in message
.. .
>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 20:24:08 -0700, "Kent" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>That a Valpolicella is worth $50 is an intercoursing joke.
>>
>> I can't recall the last time I saw an Amarone at less than $50 on a
>> wine list.
>
>Key words "wine list"
>That $50 on a wine list is about $15 to $18 retail.

Around here(DC), Amarones are $30 and up at retail.

-- Larry

> ha scritto nel messaggio "Ed Pawlowski"
> > wrote:
>
>>

>>>>That a Valpolicella is worth $50 is an intercoursing joke.
>>>
>>> I can't recall the last time I saw an Amarone at less than $50 on a
>>> wine list.
>>
>>Key words "wine list"
>>That $50 on a wine list is about $15 to $18 retail.
>
> Around here(DC), Amarones are $30 and up at retail.

I never ever saw one at that price when I lived there.

On 27/04/2011 8:14 AM, wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 20:24:08 -0700, >
> wrote:
>
>> That a Valpolicella is worth $50 is an intercoursing joke.
>
> I can't recall the last time I saw an Amarone at less than $50 on a
> wine list.


I would be surprised to see it for $50 in a restaurant, since markup is
generally at least 100%, and it is hard to find Amarone for less than
$30. It is a very special wine with a labour intensive production
method. Bunches of ripe grapes that have been growing with lot of space
and air circulation are picked and set out to dry before being pressed.

Kent wrote:
>
> That a Valpolicella is worth $50 is an intercoursing joke.

With the unlimited supply of superior wines US $20 and under per bottle,
that any wine is that high says more about pretention and fad than about
the quality of the wine. There are some extremely good wines for $50
and up, but so what when it's trivial to find a bottle just as highly
rated from a lesser known brand for $14.95 and at $9.95 there are a few
options with a rating nearly that high?

where do you trust for the ratings? Lee


"Doug Freyburger" > wrote in message
...
> Kent wrote:
>>
>> That a Valpolicella is worth $50 is an intercoursing joke.
>
> With the unlimited supply of superior wines US $20 and under per bottle,
> that any wine is that high says more about pretention and fad than about
> the quality of the wine. There are some extremely good wines for $50
> and up, but so what when it's trivial to find a bottle just as highly
> rated from a lesser known brand for $14.95 and at $9.95 there are a few
> options with a rating nearly that high?

On 2011-04-27, Storrmmee > wrote:

> where do you trust for the ratings? Lee

an empty shelf

On 27/04/2011 12:37 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2011-04-27, > wrote:
>
>> where do you trust for the ratings? Lee
>
> an empty shelf

If that were reliable Fuzion would be the top rated wine. That stuff
flies off the shelf. It is a drinkable cheap wine, not a good wine.

Storrmmee wrote:
>
> where do you trust for the ratings? Lee

Various wine magazines. I understand that I should not trust a rating
done by the store selling the wine, but the argreement among the various
wine magazines is good enough that I don't need to worry about it. So
what if a $100 bottle get rated a 98 when there's a $13 bottle that got
a 96. I'm not going to be able to tell that level of difference.

Doug Freyburger wrote:
> Storrmmee wrote:
>> where do you trust for the ratings? Lee
>
> Various wine magazines. I understand that I should not trust a rating
> done by the store selling the wine, but the argreement among the various
> wine magazines is good enough that I don't need to worry about it. So
> what if a $100 bottle get rated a 98 when there's a $13 bottle that got
> a 96. I'm not going to be able to tell that level of difference.

Consumers Reports often does comparisons of lower priced wines that they
rate as acceptably good. When buying basic table wines I've referred to
their recommendations at times.

it makes interesting cooler types of things... and as far as cheap wines
go... have you ever gone to

www.bumwine.com

very funny

Lee
"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
om...
> On 27/04/2011 12:37 PM, notbob wrote:
>> On 2011-04-27, > wrote:
>>
>>> where do you trust for the ratings? Lee
>>
>> an empty shelf
>
> If that were reliable Fuzion would be the top rated wine. That stuff flies
> off the shelf. It is a drinkable cheap wine, not a good wine.

very good point... to this point i have tried a lot of wines at tastings,
parties and purchasing... but my education is not where i want it... i would
say i am sorta with wines like i am with musical instruments, i play several
by ear, some adequate, some not, but i only have a passing ability to read
music... some talent, a little skill... my most recent personal improvement
is to understand more of the mechanics and technicalities of wine... i am
one who prefers less expensive but i will only drink what tastes good, not
purchase based on name or higher snob factor... i will have to get the dh to
see what wine mags he can look at..

again thanks.

Lee
"Doug Freyburger" > wrote in message
...
> Storrmmee wrote:
>>
>> where do you trust for the ratings? Lee
>
> Various wine magazines. I understand that I should not trust a rating
> done by the store selling the wine, but the argreement among the various
> wine magazines is good enough that I don't need to worry about it. So
> what if a $100 bottle get rated a 98 when there's a $13 bottle that got
> a 96. I'm not going to be able to tell that level of difference.

thanks, i never even thought of them,

Lee
"Goomba" > wrote in message
...
> Doug Freyburger wrote:
>> Storrmmee wrote:
>>> where do you trust for the ratings? Lee
>>
>> Various wine magazines. I understand that I should not trust a rating
>> done by the store selling the wine, but the argreement among the various
>> wine magazines is good enough that I don't need to worry about it. So
>> what if a $100 bottle get rated a 98 when there's a $13 bottle that got
>> a 96. I'm not going to be able to tell that level of difference.
>
> Consumers Reports often does comparisons of lower priced wines that they
> rate as acceptably good. When buying basic table wines I've referred to
> their recommendations at times.

On Apr 26, 9:49*am, Jerry Avins > wrote:
> On Apr 26, 10:44*am, ImStillMags > wrote:
>
> * *...
>
> > (I don't get any kickback or anything, I just wanted to share with the
> > group)
>
> * ...
>
> Your sincerity shines through! :-)
>
> My "house" wine is Carlo Rossi Paisano. The four-liter jug is
> ungainly, so there's always a cut-glass decanter of it on my table. It
> serves both as belly wash and sleeping potion.

I remember those Rossi 4l bottles from when I was in my early
twenties. You are fortunate if you like the taste. Our local
supermarket sells wine cases at cost plus $1.50.
>
> Jerry
>
--Bryan

name of store please? Lee
"Bryan" > wrote in message
...
On Apr 26, 9:49 am, Jerry Avins > wrote:
> On Apr 26, 10:44 am, ImStillMags > wrote:
>
> ...
>
> > (I don't get any kickback or anything, I just wanted to share with the
> > group)
>
> ...
>
> Your sincerity shines through! :-)
>
> My "house" wine is Carlo Rossi Paisano. The four-liter jug is
> ungainly, so there's always a cut-glass decanter of it on my table. It
> serves both as belly wash and sleeping potion.

I remember those Rossi 4l bottles from when I was in my early
twenties. You are fortunate if you like the taste. Our local
supermarket sells wine cases at cost plus $1.50.
>
> Jerry
>
--Bryan

On Apr 27, 5:30*am, "Storrmmee" > wrote:
> it always cracks me up when people sniff their nose at "cheap" wines, then
> when its in a crystal/cut glass vessel, they are just too impressed, lol,

Back when I was young and silly, my tipple of choice was Chateau
Latour. They say the 2010 vintage is going to be a good one. . . .

LW

"Goomba" > wrote in message
...
> Doug Freyburger wrote:
>> Storrmmee wrote:
>>> where do you trust for the ratings? Lee
>>
>> Various wine magazines. I understand that I should not trust a rating
>> done by the store selling the wine, but the argreement among the various
>> wine magazines is good enough that I don't need to worry about it. So
>> what if a $100 bottle get rated a 98 when there's a $13 bottle that got
>> a 96. I'm not going to be able to tell that level of difference.
>
> Consumers Reports often does comparisons of lower priced wines that they
> rate as acceptably good. When buying basic table wines I've referred to
> their recommendations at times.
>
>
I don't think Consumer Reports wine tasters have the foggiest idea of what
they should or do look for when tasting wine. I wouldn't rely on them.

Kent, a lifelong Consumer Reports' subscriber screaming in the dark,

Lyndon Watson wrote:
>
> Back when I was young and silly, my tipple of choice was Chateau
> Latour. They say the 2010 vintage is going to be a good one. . . .

I've had it and I loved it, but when I consider the price and the fact
that I can get a wine rated that well for around $20 I'll pass on having
any more.

Kent wrote:
> "Goomba" > wrote:
>
>> Consumers Reports often does comparisons of lower priced wines that they
>> rate as acceptably good. When buying basic table wines I've referred to
>> their recommendations at times.
>
> I don't think Consumer Reports wine tasters have the foggiest idea of what
> they should or do look for when tasting wine. I wouldn't rely on them.
>
> Kent, a lifelong Consumer Reports' subscriber screaming in the dark,

Consumer Reports always focuses on Joe Consumer. It's their business.
For a field you know extremely well it's trivial to beat their ratings.
For a field you have no expertese in chances are you will have trouble
telling the difference in the subtlties between their ratings and the
ratings of the experts. So what matters is how well you know your wines
plus how much you care.

if you were reccomending a book for someone to learn wines/ratings what
would you suggest, Lee
"Doug Freyburger" > wrote in message
...
> Kent wrote:
>> "Goomba" > wrote:
>>
>>> Consumers Reports often does comparisons of lower priced wines that they
>>> rate as acceptably good. When buying basic table wines I've referred to
>>> their recommendations at times.
>>
>> I don't think Consumer Reports wine tasters have the foggiest idea of
>> what
>> they should or do look for when tasting wine. I wouldn't rely on them.
>>
>> Kent, a lifelong Consumer Reports' subscriber screaming in the dark,
>
> Consumer Reports always focuses on Joe Consumer. It's their business.
> For a field you know extremely well it's trivial to beat their ratings.
> For a field you have no expertese in chances are you will have trouble
> telling the difference in the subtlties between their ratings and the
> ratings of the experts. So what matters is how well you know your wines
> plus how much you care.

Storrmmee wrote:
>
> if you were reccomending a book for someone to learn wines/ratings what
> would you suggest

Sorry, Lee. If I were suggesting a book for top quality drinks, the
book I would recommend would be about ales not wines. Any book I read
about wines was a very long time ago.

"The Wine Spectator" was a magazine recommended by a friend who feels
about wines the way I feel about ales. He always has wine that is very
superior at his house the way I have ale that's superior at my house.

thanks for being so honest... perhaps you could ask him next time you speak,
not a rush just gathering info, Lee
"Doug Freyburger" > wrote in message
...
> Storrmmee wrote:
>>
>> if you were reccomending a book for someone to learn wines/ratings what
>> would you suggest
>
> Sorry, Lee. If I were suggesting a book for top quality drinks, the
> book I would recommend would be about ales not wines. Any book I read
> about wines was a very long time ago.
>
> "The Wine Spectator" was a magazine recommended by a friend who feels
> about wines the way I feel about ales. He always has wine that is very
> superior at his house the way I have ale that's superior at my house.

"Storrmmee" > wrote in message ...
| thanks for being so honest... perhaps you could ask him next time you speak,
| not a rush just gathering info, Lee
| "Doug Freyburger" > wrote in message
| ...
| > Storrmmee wrote:
| >>
| >> if you were reccomending a book for someone to learn wines/ratings what
| >> would you suggest
| >
| > Sorry, Lee. If I were suggesting a book for top quality drinks, the
| > book I would recommend would be about ales not wines. Any book I read
| > about wines was a very long time ago.
| >
| > "The Wine Spectator" was a magazine recommended by a friend who feels
| > about wines the way I feel about ales. He always has wine that is very
| > superior at his house the way I have ale that's superior at my house.

Instead of a book how about an online source? And it's free.
Wine Enthusiast Magazine has a comprehensive website, free of charge
and full of information on wine. In particular it has a section called
"Wine 101" which is a terrific primer on all aspects of wine. Go to
http://www.winemag.com/ and in the header about 2" down on the
home page click on "Wine 101." See what you think of it. And its free!

pavane

thanks a lot... and even better than free, if the s/r cooperates i can read
it all by myself... I am interestedto see if i am a cheap drunk, or just a
trailer drinker... i am sure i am above a bum wino... but until now all i
did was taste and if in my range i bought if i liked it... never considered
collecting or anything but i am interested more in that now.

Lee
"pavane" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Storrmmee" > wrote in message
> ...
> | thanks for being so honest... perhaps you could ask him next time you
> speak,
> | not a rush just gathering info, Lee
> | "Doug Freyburger" > wrote in message
> | ...
> | > Storrmmee wrote:
> | >>
> | >> if you were reccomending a book for someone to learn wines/ratings
> what
> | >> would you suggest
> | >
> | > Sorry, Lee. If I were suggesting a book for top quality drinks, the
> | > book I would recommend would be about ales not wines. Any book I read
> | > about wines was a very long time ago.
> | >
> | > "The Wine Spectator" was a magazine recommended by a friend who feels
> | > about wines the way I feel about ales. He always has wine that is
> very
> | > superior at his house the way I have ale that's superior at my house.
>
> Instead of a book how about an online source? And it's free.
> Wine Enthusiast Magazine has a comprehensive website, free of charge
> and full of information on wine. In particular it has a section called
> "Wine 101" which is a terrific primer on all aspects of wine. Go to
> http://www.winemag.com/ and in the header about 2" down on the
> home page click on "Wine 101." See what you think of it. And its free!
>
> pavane
>
>

On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 14:51:51 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger
> wrote:

>Consumer Reports always focuses on Joe Consumer. It's their business.
>For a field you know extremely well it's trivial to beat their ratings....

That pretty well sums them up.

They drive me particularly batty concerning wine, computers, and
cameras.

On cars and appliances, their frequency-of-repair stats are what keep
me buying the mag.

-- Larry

On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 16:02:08 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger
> wrote:

>"The Wine Spectator" was a magazine recommended by a friend who feels
>about wines the way I feel about ales. He always has wine that is very
>superior at his house the way I have ale that's superior at my house.

Noone says you can't do both! 8

Our local cracked real casks of Mad River's Steelhead Extra Stout and
Troeg's Hopback Amber lasy night.

-- Larry

On 2011-04-28, > wrote:
>
> On cars and appliances, their frequency-of-repair stats are what keep
> me buying the mag.

I was lucky enough to snag a recyclcled car issue mag, but would like to
know their ratings on food processors.

nb