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I feel kind of guilty eating shaved ham. I guess I kind of feel that if
you're going to eat meat you should prepare it in a way that respects the animal/beast. When the meat is shaved into thin little tidbits of slices, it just seems disrespectful to me. W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.) "I love hunny." --Me |
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On 2011-05-07, Christopher M. > wrote:
> I feel kind of guilty eating shaved ham. I guess I kind of feel that if > you're going to eat meat you should prepare it in a way that respects the > animal/beast. When the meat is shaved into thin little tidbits of slices, it > just seems disrespectful to me. More disrespectful than driving a steel rod through its brain, peeling off all its skin, and eating it's cold dead flesh? Why don't you jes cut to the chase and become a vegatarian? nb |
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James Silverton wrote:
> On 5/7/2011 12:04 PM, Christopher M. wrote: >> I feel kind of guilty eating shaved ham. I >> guess I kind of feel that >> if you're going to eat meat you should prepare >> it in a way that >> respects the animal/beast. When the meat is >> shaved into thin little >> tidbits of slices, it just seems disrespectful >> to me. >> >> > Don't be so sensitive :-) However, I must admit > that the sign > displayed by a local barbecue restaurant showing > a happy pig doing > the cooking does bug me some. That particular pig is happy because he is doing the cooking, and not the one being cooked. |
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On Sat, 7 May 2011 12:04:27 -0400, "Christopher M."
> wrote: > I feel kind of guilty eating shaved ham. I guess I kind of feel that if > you're going to eat meat you should prepare it in a way that respects the > animal/beast. When the meat is shaved into thin little tidbits of slices, it > just seems disrespectful to me. > I like it sliced thin for sandwiches, but shaved? No thanks. Why are you eating ham in a way you don't like? -- I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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On 2011-05-07, sf > wrote:
>> > I like it sliced thin for sandwiches, but shaved? No thanks. What the Hell is the difference? I've yet to see ham with hair. nb |
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Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sat, 7 May 2011 15:41:06 -0400, Frank Burns > wrote: > >> That particular pig is happy because he is >> doing >> the cooking, and not the one being cooked. > > I prefer to think of him as being cold smoked. > He'll be extra tasty > once he hits the plate. > > -sw Hmmmmm? I never thought of it that way. You could be right. And he never ever suspected. That's why he is happy. |
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"Christopher M." > wrote in
: > I feel kind of guilty eating shaved ham. I guess I kind of > feel that if you're going to eat meat you should prepare it in > a way that respects the animal/beast. Should it be carved in the shape of a pig then adored before eaten? > When the meat is shaved > into thin little tidbits of slices, it just seems > disrespectful to me. > > > W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.) > "I love hunny." > --Me > > |
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"sandi" > wrote in message
... > "Christopher M." > wrote in > : > >> I feel kind of guilty eating shaved ham. I guess I kind of >> feel that if you're going to eat meat you should prepare it in >> a way that respects the animal/beast. > > Should it be carved in the shape of a pig then adored before eaten? I'm not talking about right and wrong. I'm just talking about having respect for an animal that is eaten, kind of like how some American Indians have respect for the animals they hunt. W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.) |
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On 2011-05-08, Christopher M. > wrote:
> for an animal that is eaten, kind of like how some American Indians have > respect for the animals they hunt. LOL.... Yeah, respect. But they still killed, skinned, and ate the damn things, didn't they!? I'm so sick of hearing about the great nobility of the savage red man. The morons treated women like dogs and would massacre whole neighboring villages jes to prove they were macho badasses, torturing men, women, and children in ways that would make a civilized person blow chunks. Give me a break. Native American Indians were a buncha waring callus assholes no less savage and horrific than the Europeans who brutalized and annihilated them. nb |
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On 08/05/2011 4:32 PM, Christopher M. wrote:
> > I'm not talking about right and wrong. I'm just talking about having respect > for an animal that is eaten, kind of like how some American Indians have > respect for the animals they hunt. > Yeah right. That explains some of their hunting practices, the types of things non-natives are not allowed to do. They like to perpetuate the myth about all native is being natural born ecologists but most of it is just a myth. It may have been the Europeans who created a demand for furs, but it was the natives who trapped the beaver to near extinction. It was the Europeans who brought rifles to North America, but it was the natives who used them to shoot everything that moved. |
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On 2011-05-08, Dave Smith > wrote:
> Yeah right. That explains some of their hunting practices, the types of > things non-natives are not allowed to do. They like to perpetuate the > myth about all native is being natural born ecologists but most of it is > just a myth. It may have been the Europeans who created a demand for > furs, but it was the natives who trapped the beaver to near extinction. > It was the Europeans who brought rifles to North America, but it was > the natives who used them to shoot everything that moved. Bingo! Lived in OR. The "natives" were allowed to catch salmon for their own use. Nothing in the law to prevent them from fishing the crap outta migrating salmon for every cent they can get using methods closed to honkies. nb |
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On 5/8/2011 10:32 AM, Christopher M. wrote:
> > I'm not talking about right and wrong. I'm just talking about having respect > for an animal that is eaten, kind of like how some American Indians have > respect for the animals they hunt. > > > W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.) > > Humans are the only meat-eaters that think this way. However, being a guy that's respectful of life, I understand your feelings. Mostly the meat we eat is an anonymous, abstract, commodity* and that's the whole point for keeping the meat processing err... process out of our sight. There ain't nothing more disrespectful that mass killing a group of creatures that probably enjoy living to some degree, draining the blood out of them, gutting them, cutting their bodies into reasonable portions and wrapping and labeling the parts for sale to those that have the money. The American Indians may have contemplated the brother spirit of the Buffalo and other animals they killed but mostly the meat we get today are soul-less lumps of tissue. Of course, there's nothing to stop you from paying a little respect to the animal the died to feed you - God knows, we do take the foods we eat for granted. *OTOH, I could go for a juicy burger right now. :-) |
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![]() "notbob" > wrote in message ... > On 2011-05-08, Christopher M. > wrote: > >> for an animal that is eaten, kind of like how some American Indians have >> respect for the animals they hunt. > > LOL.... > > Yeah, respect. But they still killed, skinned, and ate the damn > things, didn't they!? > > I'm so sick of hearing about the great nobility of the savage red man. I never said that all American Indians were noble. We all know about scalpings--well, most intelligent people do. W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.) |
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![]() "Dave Smith" > wrote in message news ![]() > On 08/05/2011 4:32 PM, Christopher M. wrote: > >> >> I'm not talking about right and wrong. I'm just talking about having >> respect >> for an animal that is eaten, kind of like how some American Indians have >> respect for the animals they hunt. >> > > Yeah right. That explains some of their hunting practices, the types of > things non-natives are not allowed to do. They like to perpetuate the > myth about all native is being natural born ecologists but most of it is > just a myth. Yes, I know. W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.) |
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![]() "notbob" > wrote in message ... > On 2011-05-08, Dave Smith > wrote: > >> Yeah right. That explains some of their hunting practices, the types of >> things non-natives are not allowed to do. They like to perpetuate the >> myth about all native is being natural born ecologists but most of it is >> just a myth. It may have been the Europeans who created a demand for >> furs, but it was the natives who trapped the beaver to near extinction. >> It was the Europeans who brought rifles to North America, but it was >> the natives who used them to shoot everything that moved. > > Bingo! > > Lived in OR. The "natives" were allowed to catch salmon for their own > use. Nothing in the law to prevent them from fishing the crap outta > migrating salmon for every cent they can get using methods closed to > honkies. I think Inuits use explosives to hunt something. W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.) |
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On Sat, 07 May 2011 14:08:37 -0700, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 7 May 2011 12:04:27 -0400, "Christopher M." > > wrote: > >> I feel kind of guilty eating shaved ham. I guess I kind of feel that if >> you're going to eat meat you should prepare it in a way that respects the >> animal/beast. When the meat is shaved into thin little tidbits of slices, it >> just seems disrespectful to me. >> > I like it sliced thin for sandwiches, but shaved? No thanks. Why are > you eating ham in a way you don't like? i can't get the deli personnel at the grocery store to slice meat thin enough to suit me. 'it'll fall apart' they say. it ****es me off. your pal, blake |
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blake murphy wrote:
> On Sat, 07 May 2011 14:08:37 -0700, sf wrote: > >> On Sat, 7 May 2011 12:04:27 -0400, "Christopher M." >> > wrote: >> >>> I feel kind of guilty eating shaved ham. I guess I kind of feel >>> that if you're going to eat meat you should prepare it in a way >>> that respects the animal/beast. When the meat is shaved into thin >>> little tidbits of slices, it just seems disrespectful to me. >>> >> I like it sliced thin for sandwiches, but shaved? No thanks. Why >> are you eating ham in a way you don't like? > > i can't get the deli personnel at the grocery store to slice meat thin > enough to suit me. 'it'll fall apart' they say. it ****es me off. It did fall apart, but it was still shaved ham. Maybe they don't want to put in the effort. I think I'd like a thinly-sliced roast-beef sandwich on a butter-toasted onion roll. W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.) |
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On Sat, 7 May 2011 13:10:00 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote: >On Sat, 7 May 2011 12:04:27 -0400, Christopher M. wrote: > >> I feel kind of guilty eating shaved ham. I guess I kind of feel that if >> you're going to eat meat you should prepare it in a way that respects the >> animal/beast. When the meat is shaved into thin little tidbits of slices, it >> just seems disrespectful to me. > >That's only because you're a moron. If you want top respect the >animal then become a vegetarian. There's another group for vegetarian >trolls (I though all of them died a while ago). > >-sw <Tongue-in-cheek mode on> Vegetarians are sadists. They eat carrots alive and feet-first; the head dies screaming. At least with broccoli they eat the head first (usually). Though the broccoli often are tortured--- boiled alive, then eaten *before* merciful death occurs. And onions... the skin is agonizingly peeled off before the body is chopped into pieces. The horror! Oh, the humanity! Vegetanimy. Plantinimy. Whatever. <Tongue-in-cheek mode off> Best -- Terry Unrepentant omnivore |
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