In article >, casa bona > wrote:

> On 8/14/2013 10:39 AM, Marcella Peek wrote:
> > I think the problem is that the decision makers think personality trumps
> > skill and not only have hired too many of the former but have fired far
> > too many of the latter (think David Rosengarten, Ming Tsai, Mario
> > Batalli, Sara Moulton et al)
> >
> > marcella
>
> Toss in Emeril while we're at it, and I kind of like jack McDavid who
> was Bobby Flay's co-host on Cooking and Grilling.

A friend of mine referred to him as the old guy that cooked with his
feet, and I'd point out that that would still be better than any
cilantro soaked crap that Bobby Flay served up.

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On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 20:39:57 -0700, anim8rFSK >
wrote:

> In article >, casa bona > wrote:
>
> > On 8/14/2013 10:39 AM, Marcella Peek wrote:
> > > I think the problem is that the decision makers think personality trumps
> > > skill and not only have hired too many of the former but have fired far
> > > too many of the latter (think David Rosengarten, Ming Tsai, Mario
> > > Batalli, Sara Moulton et al)
> > >
> > > marcella
> >
> > Toss in Emeril while we're at it, and I kind of like jack McDavid who
> > was Bobby Flay's co-host on Cooking and Grilling.
>
> A friend of mine referred to him as the old guy that cooked with his
> feet, and I'd point out that that would still be better than any
> cilantro soaked crap that Bobby Flay served up.

Better to eat at Taco Bell or Shoney's since you think their cooking
is beneath your standards,

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"anim8rFSK" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, casa bona > wrote:
>
>> On 8/14/2013 10:39 AM, Marcella Peek wrote:
>> > I think the problem is that the decision makers think personality
>> > trumps
>> > skill and not only have hired too many of the former but have fired far
>> > too many of the latter (think David Rosengarten, Ming Tsai, Mario
>> > Batalli, Sara Moulton et al)
>> >
>> > marcella
>>
>> Toss in Emeril while we're at it, and I kind of like jack McDavid who
>> was Bobby Flay's co-host on Cooking and Grilling.
>
> A friend of mine referred to him as the old guy that cooked with his
> feet, and I'd point out that that would still be better than any
> cilantro soaked crap that Bobby Flay served up.

I seem to recall at least 2 shows where Flay totally couldn't cook rice...

On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 00:16:46 -0700, "legal process"
> wrote:

> I seem to recall at least 2 shows where Flay totally couldn't cook rice...
>
Cite?

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"Adrian AGillian Bayford" > wrote in message
...
> wrote:
>
>>I think that's the goal of "The Next Food Network Star", to keep
>>bringing in new perspectives. Sometimes they work, sometimes not. Guy
>>Fieri to me is mundane and I really don't enjoy watching DDD.
>
> I have finally figured out why FN has gone so far down the hill and I
> will use Food Network Star as my reasoning. They had one really good
> season: Guy Fieri's year and he became successful (whether you like him
> or not) and then they started selecting really poor "stars" and there
> became the problem. They had a bad selection so the next year they had to
> select someone even worse so that the previous year's selection looked
> "slightly" less bad. No where is that more true than the last three
> seasons. Jeff Mauro was awful and even though his show is still on, look
> who he followed: Aaron McCargo, Melissa D'Arabian and Aarti. Aarti was
> probably the best of the three but her POV didn't go far. So we have Jeff
> who was really miserable but his opponents on the show were even worse.
> Then we have that treasure of the Miracle Gro world: Justin. Talk about a
> real downer, but he did fulfill the function of making Jeff look better.
> At least, Jeff had a series, not a special. And now we have the losers of
> this year. It's not easy to find someone to make Justin look better, but
> with Rodney and Stacey, I think they've done it. What scares me is that
> with this philosophy to always find something worse to make your present
> programming look better, what can we expect next from FN? Maybe that's
> why we're getting Cutthroat Kitchen, The Shed, and Food Court Wars.

Is Justin the guy who was very much like Alton? If so, I really liked him.
Did he get his own show? I can't say that I cared for that sandwich guy.
Perhaps because I don't much like sandwiches. And while I liked Aarti, I
don't like Indian food so her show didn't interest me.

I did watch Cutthroat kitchen and couldn't really get into it at all. I
swear I have seen the Mohawk guy somewhere before but don't know where.
Tried watching The Shed and while some parts were interesting, like smoking
a cake, mostly it wasn't appealing. Neither is Food Court Wars. Not to me
anyway.

"Michael Spikes" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, wrote:
>>"Cheryl" > wrote:
>>
>>> I think that's the goal of "The Next Food Network Star", to keep
>>> bringing in new perspectives. Sometimes they work, sometimes not.
>>> Guy Fieri to me is mundane and I really don't enjoy watching DDD.
>>
>>Yeah. I could live without that show.
>>
>>What happened to that geeky faux Alton guy from NY? I liked him but I
>>don't recall seeing his show. Didn't see Arti's show either but only
>>because it aired a time when I was not home.
>
> I just saw a commercial for an upcoming new show called "the Shed" (I
> think) which appears to be about some wacky southern family and will
> involved their antics and a little about cooking. This appears to be a
> new low for the network. It looks awful and not something that should be
> on a food network.
> From the competition food shows though, I've seen that the judges
> encourage the contestants to share personal stories, show lots of
> personality and amp up their performances while the food, techniques,
> sharing cooking tips and unique recipies seems secondary. I'm assuming
> the judges know what gets in viewers and I must be in the minority. I
> like the emphasis on food, good and unique recipies, technique, etc.
> while I guess what brings in viewers is overbearing personality, smiling
> continually at the camera and old recipies that can often be found in old
> church or community cookbooks.
> I've been watching less of the food network shows, and more on PBS and
> the Cooking Channel. Cooks Country and America's test kitchen. Giada and
> barefoot contessa still offers interesting food tips, recipies, etc. but
> over all Food Network has been going downhill for a while and the
> downward slide continues. It's unfortunate.

I just saw The Shed. Don't know if it was the first episode or not.
Although they did make food on there, there was little shown about how they
made it and really it was pretty uninteresting. Just a lot of hick type
people on there.

"Maria Portillo" > wrote in message
news:8f7bd6eaa58073a05a4088b9001f9bd3@riesgofiscal .com...
> I just read an article that says that HGTV surpassed FN in overall
> viewership
> the last quarter. They are attributing it to the active home sales market,
> but
> I'm not entirely sure the general Food Network programming has nothing to
> do
> with it.

I used to watch HGTV rarely but am watching it more and more often now.
Some of the shows are more appealing to me than FN but some still aren't
appealing. I am not much into home decorating and stuff like that. But
some of the remodeling shows are interesting. And like some of the home
buying shows.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> I'd be more interested in PBS if their interface was better. First
> you have to pick your local PBS channel and then you have to figure
> out where the show is located on that PBS site, then you have to find
> the recipe... which is usually on a different web site that you have
> to search for by name, which you hope you got right from the show.
> Bah. I don't have the patience for that nonsense. I want to easily
> find the date and time, then go to the show, which has a direct link
> to the recipe. FN and Cooking does it right. PBS does not.

I like PBS but... When I watch their shows it's when I just happen to catch
them. I don't pay attention to when a lot of shows air and there is rarely
a show I would have to rush home to see, nor would I tape it or DVR or Tivo
it or whatever means is used nowadays to do that. Most of my TV viewing now
is late at night so I choose from what is on then. I have never been one to
try to look at a TV guide or some such thing. I either see it or I don't.
And if I don't, surely it will be on again some time.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 08:43:45 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person
> > wrote:
>
>> If they want a reality type show that will get a good audience, maybe
>> even me, how about putting the ingredients on one table, arming the
>> contestants with cleavers, large chef's knives and larding needles,
>> and have them each try to grab the best ingredients. Now that might
>> be fun. (Where's Benny Hill when you need him?)
>
> I thought that's what they do on shows like Chopped. They have a
> limited number of items "everyone" will want, so the first person to
> the ice cream maker gets it and anyone else who wanted it has to
> figure out what else to do. On one recent show, a contestant grabbed
> the honey. He didn't need it; but he made another contestant who did
> need it have to ask. If he had really needed it, she would have had
> to figure out an alternative ingredient. I hate that kind of sh*t....
> but apparently the new Alton Brown show will be like that only worse.

Alton's show was worse. Far worse. I didn't even find him appealing on it.
I do like watching Chopped most of the time. I find it interesting to see
what they make out of some sometimes odd ingredients and also find it
interesting to see some of the stupid mistakes that they make.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> I can't say that I cared for that sandwich guy.
> Perhaps because I don't much like sandwiches.

That's a pretty blanket statement, Julie.
How about a vegan bean sandwich...your favorite beans between
2 leaves of lettuce.

Big Macs are pretty good too. ;-D

> And while I liked Aarti, I
> don't like Indian food so her show didn't interest me.

You and I are perfect opposites. I like almost everything and you like
almost nothing. It must hard for you as your choices are so limited.


G.

Perhaps the problem is that they forgot that Food is the star not the Chef!

Tee Jay

On Thu, 15 Aug 2013, sf wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 00:16:46 -0700, "legal process"
> > wrote:
>
>> I seem to recall at least 2 shows where Flay totally couldn't cook rice...
>>
> Cite?
>
COme on, they have a vague memory of something. They didn't say
"absolutely", but "I recall".

That doesn't need a cite, on the other hand it may shake someone else's
memory out who can give details.

Michael

On Thu, 15 Aug 2013, TeeJay1952 wrote:

> Perhaps the problem is that they forgot that Food is the star not the Chef!
>
> Tee Jay
>
>
But they may think it's about the host.

I suppose many do watch for the food and the cooking, but I suspect for
many, it's a passive thing, watch someone else do the cooking. I think
this was true in the days of "The Galloping GOurmet", he had a style, I
had no interest in duplicating what he was cooking (not that I was old
enough, he never had kid's recipes to go with that wine). Reality says
I'm better off buying a cookbook if I want to know how to cook something.
Maybe I might pick up some skills from watching tv, but maybe not, some of
those shows seem to be more interested in camera angle and moving from
camera to camera than providing detail.

My sister gets the magazine connected with The FOod Network. I look at it
and think "who are all these people?". I've never watched the channel,
yet the magazine puts the hosts first. It's not a recipe magazine to go
along side the cooking shows, it's like (I gather) the channel in magazine
form.

Michael

"Michael Black" > wrote in message
xample.org...
> On Thu, 15 Aug 2013, sf wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 00:16:46 -0700, "legal process"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I seem to recall at least 2 shows where Flay totally couldn't cook
>>> rice...
>>>
>> Cite?
>>
> COme on, they have a vague memory of something. They didn't say
> "absolutely", but "I recall".
>
> That doesn't need a cite, on the other hand it may shake someone else's
> memory out who can give details.
>
> Michael

I know with certainty one was a Throwdown episode, but do not recall which
one. I believe it might have been a paella challenge; however, I did find a
reference on an anti-Bobby Flay website to his screwing up jambalaya by
opening up a pot of rice every 2 minutes. Perhaps those are the two
instances.

On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 03:13:09 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I'd be more interested in PBS if their interface was better. First
> > you have to pick your local PBS channel and then you have to figure
> > out where the show is located on that PBS site, then you have to find
> > the recipe... which is usually on a different web site that you have
> > to search for by name, which you hope you got right from the show.
> > Bah. I don't have the patience for that nonsense. I want to easily
> > find the date and time, then go to the show, which has a direct link
> > to the recipe. FN and Cooking does it right. PBS does not.
>
> I like PBS but... When I watch their shows it's when I just happen to catch
> them. I don't pay attention to when a lot of shows air and there is rarely
> a show I would have to rush home to see, nor would I tape it or DVR or Tivo
> it or whatever means is used nowadays to do that. Most of my TV viewing now
> is late at night so I choose from what is on then. I have never been one to
> try to look at a TV guide or some such thing. I either see it or I don't.
> And if I don't, surely it will be on again some time.
>
Huh? I wasn't talking about appointment television, I was talking
about finding recipes for the show that's on at the moment.

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In article > ,
"legal process" > wrote:

> "anim8rFSK" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >, casa bona > wrote:
> >
> >> On 8/14/2013 10:39 AM, Marcella Peek wrote:
> >> > I think the problem is that the decision makers think personality
> >> > trumps
> >> > skill and not only have hired too many of the former but have fired far
> >> > too many of the latter (think David Rosengarten, Ming Tsai, Mario
> >> > Batalli, Sara Moulton et al)
> >> >
> >> > marcella
> >>
> >> Toss in Emeril while we're at it, and I kind of like jack McDavid who
> >> was Bobby Flay's co-host on Cooking and Grilling.
> >
> > A friend of mine referred to him as the old guy that cooked with his
> > feet, and I'd point out that that would still be better than any
> > cilantro soaked crap that Bobby Flay served up.
>
> I seem to recall at least 2 shows where Flay totally couldn't cook rice...

Flay pretty much can't cook anything flora or fauna based. Once you get
past those categories, though, his stone soup pretty much rocks.

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On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 07:56:15 -0700, "legal process"
> wrote:

> "Michael Black" > wrote in message
> xample.org...
> > On Thu, 15 Aug 2013, sf wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 00:16:46 -0700, "legal process"
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> I seem to recall at least 2 shows where Flay totally couldn't cook
> >>> rice...
> >>>
> >> Cite?
> >>
> > COme on, they have a vague memory of something. They didn't say
> > "absolutely", but "I recall".
> >
> > That doesn't need a cite, on the other hand it may shake someone else's
> > memory out who can give details.
> >
In other words, you and "legal" can't come up with anything.
>
> I know with certainty one was a Throwdown episode, but do not recall which
> one. I believe it might have been a paella challenge; however, I did find a
> reference on an anti-Bobby Flay website to his screwing up jambalaya by
> opening up a pot of rice every 2 minutes. Perhaps those are the two
> instances.
>

An episode or two on Throwdown is supposed to be an example of him not
knowing how to cook? LOL! That's rich. The entire premise of
Throwdown was for him to lose to the "experts".

All those shows are formulas. Take the HGTV show called Love it or
Leave It: In spite of not getting everything on their way too long
list of wants and far too little money to make it happen (several
major wants are not met on each show) PLUS seeing at least one
alternative home that fits their criteria.... the Leave It Realtor
usually loses to the Love It Decorator.

Another one is Restaurant Impossible where Robert Irvine has $10,000
and two days to redecorate a dining room, clean up a filthy kitchen,
design a new menu and teach the cooks how to cook, teach the servers
how to serve and mend the owners sloppy management style. They're
always way behind with just a couple of hours to go until reopening,
but it all gets done in time somehow.

It's a formula. Anyone who can't figure that out should stick to
playing video games.

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anim8rFSK wrote:
> Flay pretty much can't cook anything flora or fauna based.

That must make his net worth less than yours, right ****lip?

wrote:
>On Thu, 15 Aug 2013, TeeJay1952 wrote:

>> Perhaps the problem is that they forgot that Food is the star not the Chef!
>>
>But they may think it's about the host.
>
>I suppose many do watch for the food and the cooking, but I suspect for
>many, it's a passive thing, watch someone else do the cooking. I think
>this was true in the days of "The Galloping GOurmet", he had a style, I
>had no interest in duplicating what he was cooking (not that I was old
>enough, he never had kid's recipes to go with that wine). Reality says
>I'm better off buying a cookbook if I want to know how to cook something.
>Maybe I might pick up some skills from watching tv, but maybe not, some of
>those shows seem to be more interested in camera angle and moving from
>camera to camera than providing detail.
>
>My sister gets the magazine connected with The FOod Network. I look at it
>and think "who are all these people?". I've never watched the channel,
>yet the magazine puts the hosts first. It's not a recipe magazine to go
>along side the cooking shows, it's like (I gather) the channel in magazine
>form.

Got a glimpse of the latest issue of FN Mag on the racks at the store today.
The cover, which usually has Pawler as one of the faces on the cover, instead
had 3 FN celebs (two mainstays and Ree) and an ice cream sundae. I know
magazines are months ahead in terms of production schedules, and I have no
idea how long this had been on the stands, but I thumbed through and Pawler
was nowhwere to be found. However, I saw Jamie on about Page 3, and Bobby was
also featured in some way. I also saw an ad that featured JUSTIN!

Now I wonder if FN was really planning on pulling the plug on any new
production of Pawler's show; everyone I saw in the mag has in-production shows
either on FN or CC (saw Kelsey and Sunny - I know she's still doing something
for them, not sure in what capacity). If SUNNY is in the mag and not Pawler,
with production of articles done weeks before this mess broke, Ms. Deen's
future was likely being negotiated, and not in her favor.

Likely a primary reason her agent got the axe; TV's her most prominent medium
and now she's not even getting exposure via reruns. Does anyone know the deal
with residuals at FN? It can't be much, since they repeat some shows on an
almost continuous loop, but some money from that revenue stream is better than
none.

On 8/14/2013 9:39 PM, anim8rFSK wrote:
> In article >, casa bona > wrote:
>
>> On 8/14/2013 10:39 AM, Marcella Peek wrote:
>>> I think the problem is that the decision makers think personality trumps
>>> skill and not only have hired too many of the former but have fired far
>>> too many of the latter (think David Rosengarten, Ming Tsai, Mario
>>> Batalli, Sara Moulton et al)
>>>
>>> marcella
>>
>> Toss in Emeril while we're at it, and I kind of like jack McDavid who
>> was Bobby Flay's co-host on Cooking and Grilling.
>
> A friend of mine referred to him as the old guy that cooked with his
> feet, and I'd point out that that would still be better than any
> cilantro soaked crap that Bobby Flay served up.
>

What on earth do you have against cilantro?

It's a wonderful and fragrant addition to so many dishes, including
shrimp scampi in this household.

"casa bona" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/14/2013 9:39 PM, anim8rFSK wrote:
>> In article >, casa bona > wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/14/2013 10:39 AM, Marcella Peek wrote:
>>>> I think the problem is that the decision makers think personality
>>>> trumps
>>>> skill and not only have hired too many of the former but have fired far
>>>> too many of the latter (think David Rosengarten, Ming Tsai, Mario
>>>> Batalli, Sara Moulton et al)
>>>>
>>>> marcella
>>>
>>> Toss in Emeril while we're at it, and I kind of like jack McDavid who
>>> was Bobby Flay's co-host on Cooking and Grilling.
>>
>> A friend of mine referred to him as the old guy that cooked with his
>> feet, and I'd point out that that would still be better than any
>> cilantro soaked crap that Bobby Flay served up.
>>
>
> What on earth do you have against cilantro?
>
> It's a wonderful and fragrant addition to so many dishes, including shrimp
> scampi in this household.

absolutely agree... Cilantro is great... perhaps greater than Flay... but
love the stuff, except when I have to rinse out the grit.

"legal process" > wrote in message
...
> "casa bona" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 8/14/2013 9:39 PM, anim8rFSK wrote:
>>> In article >, casa bona > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/14/2013 10:39 AM, Marcella Peek wrote:
>>>>> I think the problem is that the decision makers think personality
>>>>> trumps
>>>>> skill and not only have hired too many of the former but have fired
>>>>> far
>>>>> too many of the latter (think David Rosengarten, Ming Tsai, Mario
>>>>> Batalli, Sara Moulton et al)
>>>>>
>>>>> marcella
>>>>
>>>> Toss in Emeril while we're at it, and I kind of like jack McDavid who
>>>> was Bobby Flay's co-host on Cooking and Grilling.
>>>
>>> A friend of mine referred to him as the old guy that cooked with his
>>> feet, and I'd point out that that would still be better than any
>>> cilantro soaked crap that Bobby Flay served up.
>>>
>>
>> What on earth do you have against cilantro?
>>
>> It's a wonderful and fragrant addition to so many dishes, including
>> shrimp scampi in this household.
>
> absolutely agree... Cilantro is great... perhaps greater than Flay... but
> love the stuff, except when I have to rinse out the grit.

It's seems to be one of those love it or hate it things. I hate it.

Cheri

In article >, casa bona > wrote:

> On 8/14/2013 9:39 PM, anim8rFSK wrote:
> > In article >, casa bona > wrote:
> >
> >> On 8/14/2013 10:39 AM, Marcella Peek wrote:
> >>> I think the problem is that the decision makers think personality trumps
> >>> skill and not only have hired too many of the former but have fired far
> >>> too many of the latter (think David Rosengarten, Ming Tsai, Mario
> >>> Batalli, Sara Moulton et al)
> >>>
> >>> marcella
> >>
> >> Toss in Emeril while we're at it, and I kind of like jack McDavid who
> >> was Bobby Flay's co-host on Cooking and Grilling.
> >
> > A friend of mine referred to him as the old guy that cooked with his
> > feet, and I'd point out that that would still be better than any
> > cilantro soaked crap that Bobby Flay served up.
> >
>
> What on earth do you have against cilantro?
>
> It's a wonderful and fragrant addition to so many dishes, including
> shrimp scampi in this household.

It's shit on a stick. Flay uses it to cover up the stench of his
improperly cooked meat. It's for people that never outgrew eating
library paste.

--
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On 8/15/2013 6:01 AM, TeeJay1952 wrote:
> Perhaps the problem is that they forgot that Food is the star not the Chef!
>
> Tee Jay
>
Nicely stated.

On 8/15/2013 8:56 AM, legal process wrote:
> "Michael Black" > wrote in message
> xample.org...
>> On Thu, 15 Aug 2013, sf wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 00:16:46 -0700, "legal process"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I seem to recall at least 2 shows where Flay totally couldn't cook
>>>> rice...
>>>>
>>> Cite?
>>>
>> COme on, they have a vague memory of something. They didn't say
>> "absolutely", but "I recall".
>>
>> That doesn't need a cite, on the other hand it may shake someone else's
>> memory out who can give details.
>>
>> Michael
>
> I know with certainty one was a Throwdown episode, but do not recall which
> one. I believe it might have been a paella challenge; however, I did find a
> reference on an anti-Bobby Flay website to his screwing up jambalaya by
> opening up a pot of rice every 2 minutes. Perhaps those are the two
> instances.
>
>
I recall seeing that one, good memory.

On 8/15/2013 10:06 AM, sf wrote:
> Another one is Restaurant Impossible where Robert Irvine has $10,000
> and two days to redecorate a dining room, clean up a filthy kitchen,
> design a new menu and teach the cooks how to cook, teach the servers
> how to serve and mend the owners sloppy management style. They're
> always way behind with just a couple of hours to go until reopening,
> but it all gets done in time somehow.
>
> It's a formula. Anyone who can't figure that out should stick to
> playing video games.

I have to say it bores me to tears.

And Gordon Ramsay and his food-spitting-out act is even worse!

On 8/15/2013 1:50 PM, legal process wrote:
> "casa bona" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 8/14/2013 9:39 PM, anim8rFSK wrote:
>>> In article >, casa bona > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/14/2013 10:39 AM, Marcella Peek wrote:
>>>>> I think the problem is that the decision makers think personality
>>>>> trumps
>>>>> skill and not only have hired too many of the former but have fired far
>>>>> too many of the latter (think David Rosengarten, Ming Tsai, Mario
>>>>> Batalli, Sara Moulton et al)
>>>>>
>>>>> marcella
>>>>
>>>> Toss in Emeril while we're at it, and I kind of like jack McDavid who
>>>> was Bobby Flay's co-host on Cooking and Grilling.
>>>
>>> A friend of mine referred to him as the old guy that cooked with his
>>> feet, and I'd point out that that would still be better than any
>>> cilantro soaked crap that Bobby Flay served up.
>>>
>>
>> What on earth do you have against cilantro?
>>
>> It's a wonderful and fragrant addition to so many dishes, including shrimp
>> scampi in this household.
>
> absolutely agree... Cilantro is great... perhaps greater than Flay... but
> love the stuff, except when I have to rinse out the grit.
>
>
At least it's not as sandy as leeks :-)

On 8/15/2013 2:17 PM, anim8rFSK wrote:
> In article >, casa bona > wrote:
>
>> On 8/14/2013 9:39 PM, anim8rFSK wrote:
>>> In article >, casa bona > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/14/2013 10:39 AM, Marcella Peek wrote:
>>>>> I think the problem is that the decision makers think personality trumps
>>>>> skill and not only have hired too many of the former but have fired far
>>>>> too many of the latter (think David Rosengarten, Ming Tsai, Mario
>>>>> Batalli, Sara Moulton et al)
>>>>>
>>>>> marcella
>>>>
>>>> Toss in Emeril while we're at it, and I kind of like jack McDavid who
>>>> was Bobby Flay's co-host on Cooking and Grilling.
>>>
>>> A friend of mine referred to him as the old guy that cooked with his
>>> feet, and I'd point out that that would still be better than any
>>> cilantro soaked crap that Bobby Flay served up.
>>>
>>
>> What on earth do you have against cilantro?
>>
>> It's a wonderful and fragrant addition to so many dishes, including
>> shrimp scampi in this household.
>
> It's shit on a stick. Flay uses it to cover up the stench of his
> improperly cooked meat. It's for people that never outgrew eating
> library paste.
>
You have no clue what a street taco is all about, do you?

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> I can't say that I cared for that sandwich guy.
>> Perhaps because I don't much like sandwiches.
>
> That's a pretty blanket statement, Julie.
> How about a vegan bean sandwich...your favorite beans between
> 2 leaves of lettuce.

Nope. I don't like lettuce wraps. I just really don't like any sandwiches.
>
> Big Macs are pretty good too. ;-D
>
>> And while I liked Aarti, I
>> don't like Indian food so her show didn't interest me.
>
> You and I are perfect opposites. I like almost everything and you like
> almost nothing. It must hard for you as your choices are so limited.
>

Not hard at all.

On 8/15/2013 3:59 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Gary" > wrote in message ...
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> I can't say that I cared for that sandwich guy.
>>> Perhaps because I don't much like sandwiches.
>>
>> That's a pretty blanket statement, Julie.
>> How about a vegan bean sandwich...your favorite beans between
>> 2 leaves of lettuce.
>
> Nope. I don't like lettuce wraps. I just really don't like any sandwiches.
>>
>> Big Macs are pretty good too. ;-D
>>
>>> And while I liked Aarti, I
>>> don't like Indian food so her show didn't interest me.
>>
>> You and I are perfect opposites. I like almost everything and you like
>> almost nothing. It must hard for you as your choices are so limited.
>>
>
> Not hard at all.
>
>
Half of knowing what you do like is knowing what you don't like ;-)

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 07:56:15 -0700, "legal process"
> > wrote:
>
>> "Michael Black" > wrote in message
>> xample.org...
>> > On Thu, 15 Aug 2013, sf wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 00:16:46 -0700, "legal process"
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I seem to recall at least 2 shows where Flay totally couldn't cook
>> >>> rice...
>> >>>
>> >> Cite?
>> >>
>> > COme on, they have a vague memory of something. They didn't say
>> > "absolutely", but "I recall".
>> >
>> > That doesn't need a cite, on the other hand it may shake someone else's
>> > memory out who can give details.
>> >
> In other words, you and "legal" can't come up with anything.
>>
>> I know with certainty one was a Throwdown episode, but do not recall
>> which
>> one. I believe it might have been a paella challenge; however, I did find
>> a
>> reference on an anti-Bobby Flay website to his screwing up jambalaya by
>> opening up a pot of rice every 2 minutes. Perhaps those are the two
>> instances.
>>
>
> An episode or two on Throwdown is supposed to be an example of him not
> knowing how to cook? LOL! That's rich. The entire premise of
> Throwdown was for him to lose to the "experts".
>
> All those shows are formulas. Take the HGTV show called Love it or
> Leave It: In spite of not getting everything on their way too long
> list of wants and far too little money to make it happen (several
> major wants are not met on each show) PLUS seeing at least one
> alternative home that fits their criteria.... the Leave It Realtor
> usually loses to the Love It Decorator.

<snip>

In article >,
"Cheri" > wrote:

> "legal process" > wrote in message
> ...
> > "casa bona" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> On 8/14/2013 9:39 PM, anim8rFSK wrote:
> >>> In article >, casa bona > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 8/14/2013 10:39 AM, Marcella Peek wrote:
> >>>>> I think the problem is that the decision makers think personality
> >>>>> trumps
> >>>>> skill and not only have hired too many of the former but have fired
> >>>>> far
> >>>>> too many of the latter (think David Rosengarten, Ming Tsai, Mario
> >>>>> Batalli, Sara Moulton et al)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> marcella
> >>>>
> >>>> Toss in Emeril while we're at it, and I kind of like jack McDavid who
> >>>> was Bobby Flay's co-host on Cooking and Grilling.
> >>>
> >>> A friend of mine referred to him as the old guy that cooked with his
> >>> feet, and I'd point out that that would still be better than any
> >>> cilantro soaked crap that Bobby Flay served up.
> >>>
> >>
> >> What on earth do you have against cilantro?
> >>
> >> It's a wonderful and fragrant addition to so many dishes, including
> >> shrimp scampi in this household.
> >
> > absolutely agree... Cilantro is great... perhaps greater than Flay... but
> > love the stuff, except when I have to rinse out the grit.
>
> It's seems to be one of those love it or hate it things. I hate it.

It is one of those genetic thingies. I do not like it.
No point in people getting into a tizzy over it, unless,
again, they like that sort of thing.

--
Michael Press

On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 13:02:05 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

> It's seems to be one of those love it or hate it things. I hate it.

But you're not blathering on and on about hating it and how the people
who do like it have TIAD. You're intelligent enough to be able to
skip the recipe, skip the ingredient or change cilantro for parsley if
you want to see the green color.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

In article >, casa bona > wrote:

> On 8/15/2013 2:17 PM, anim8rFSK wrote:
> > In article >, casa bona > wrote:
> >
> >> On 8/14/2013 9:39 PM, anim8rFSK wrote:
> >>> In article >, casa bona > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 8/14/2013 10:39 AM, Marcella Peek wrote:
> >>>>> I think the problem is that the decision makers think personality trumps
> >>>>> skill and not only have hired too many of the former but have fired far
> >>>>> too many of the latter (think David Rosengarten, Ming Tsai, Mario
> >>>>> Batalli, Sara Moulton et al)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> marcella
> >>>>
> >>>> Toss in Emeril while we're at it, and I kind of like jack McDavid who
> >>>> was Bobby Flay's co-host on Cooking and Grilling.
> >>>
> >>> A friend of mine referred to him as the old guy that cooked with his
> >>> feet, and I'd point out that that would still be better than any
> >>> cilantro soaked crap that Bobby Flay served up.
> >>>
> >>
> >> What on earth do you have against cilantro?
> >>
> >> It's a wonderful and fragrant addition to so many dishes, including
> >> shrimp scampi in this household.
> >
> > It's shit on a stick. Flay uses it to cover up the stench of his
> > improperly cooked meat. It's for people that never outgrew eating
> > library paste.
> >
> You have no clue what a street taco is all about, do you?

LOL, what, it's supposed to taste bad?

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In article >,
"legal process" > wrote:

> "casa bona" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 8/14/2013 9:39 PM, anim8rFSK wrote:
> >> In article >, casa bona > wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 8/14/2013 10:39 AM, Marcella Peek wrote:
> >>>> I think the problem is that the decision makers think personality
> >>>> trumps
> >>>> skill and not only have hired too many of the former but have fired far
> >>>> too many of the latter (think David Rosengarten, Ming Tsai, Mario
> >>>> Batalli, Sara Moulton et al)
> >>>>
> >>>> marcella
> >>>
> >>> Toss in Emeril while we're at it, and I kind of like jack McDavid who
> >>> was Bobby Flay's co-host on Cooking and Grilling.
> >>
> >> A friend of mine referred to him as the old guy that cooked with his
> >> feet, and I'd point out that that would still be better than any
> >> cilantro soaked crap that Bobby Flay served up.
> >>
> >
> > What on earth do you have against cilantro?
> >
> > It's a wonderful and fragrant addition to so many dishes, including shrimp
> > scampi in this household.
>
> absolutely agree... Cilantro is great... perhaps greater than Flay... but
> love the stuff, except when I have to rinse out the grit.

I'll agree cilantro is greater than Flay. Not sure Flay has enough grit
to warrant rinsing out though.

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"Michael Press" > wrote in message
...
> It is one of those genetic thingies. I do not like it.
> No point in people getting into a tizzy over it, unless,
> again, they like that sort of thing.

I love cilantro and the more the better. But... I did once have some that
tasted of soap. I grew it and it had gone to seed. I tried to eat it
anyway. Mistake!

wrote:

>Has the Food Network gone downhill? Not sure there is a mountain big enough
>to describe this fall. What a bunch of egomaniac clowns! I cant say enough
>horrible things about this network. There are only a few shows that I still
>enjoy watching, but the BS competitions and games are imo...ridiculous. The
>cupcakes and sweets showcased throughout the holidays were beyond gross. I
>think I'm down to Giada, Ina and Ton of Butter in Savannah (only because I
>like seeing her home and making fun of her sons). Never could stand Sandra
>Ho Made from day one. What a phoney! Surely there are enough qualifed people
>to intoduce some new quality programming. I do not appreciate Cindy Crawford
>pimping her crap in the morning. How lazy and cheap can they be?

I don't know who is in charge of programming, but he/she needs to be fired. This
channel is like the food version of Syfy

On 8/15/2013 7:30 PM, anim8rFSK wrote:
> In article >, casa bona > wrote:
>
>> On 8/15/2013 2:17 PM, anim8rFSK wrote:
>>> In article >, casa bona > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/14/2013 9:39 PM, anim8rFSK wrote:
>>>>> In article >, casa bona > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/14/2013 10:39 AM, Marcella Peek wrote:
>>>>>>> I think the problem is that the decision makers think personality trumps
>>>>>>> skill and not only have hired too many of the former but have fired far
>>>>>>> too many of the latter (think David Rosengarten, Ming Tsai, Mario
>>>>>>> Batalli, Sara Moulton et al)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> marcella
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Toss in Emeril while we're at it, and I kind of like jack McDavid who
>>>>>> was Bobby Flay's co-host on Cooking and Grilling.
>>>>>
>>>>> A friend of mine referred to him as the old guy that cooked with his
>>>>> feet, and I'd point out that that would still be better than any
>>>>> cilantro soaked crap that Bobby Flay served up.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What on earth do you have against cilantro?
>>>>
>>>> It's a wonderful and fragrant addition to so many dishes, including
>>>> shrimp scampi in this household.
>>>
>>> It's shit on a stick. Flay uses it to cover up the stench of his
>>> improperly cooked meat. It's for people that never outgrew eating
>>> library paste.
>>>
>> You have no clue what a street taco is all about, do you?
>
> LOL, what, it's supposed to taste bad?
>

No, it's a tradition you seem to have no knowledge of.

In article >, casa bona > wrote:

> On 8/15/2013 7:30 PM, anim8rFSK wrote:
> > In article >, casa bona > wrote:
> >
> >> On 8/15/2013 2:17 PM, anim8rFSK wrote:
> >>> In article >, casa bona > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 8/14/2013 9:39 PM, anim8rFSK wrote:
> >>>>> In article >, casa bona > wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 8/14/2013 10:39 AM, Marcella Peek wrote:
> >>>>>>> I think the problem is that the decision makers think personality
> >>>>>>> trumps
> >>>>>>> skill and not only have hired too many of the former but have fired
> >>>>>>> far
> >>>>>>> too many of the latter (think David Rosengarten, Ming Tsai, Mario
> >>>>>>> Batalli, Sara Moulton et al)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> marcella
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Toss in Emeril while we're at it, and I kind of like jack McDavid who
> >>>>>> was Bobby Flay's co-host on Cooking and Grilling.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A friend of mine referred to him as the old guy that cooked with his
> >>>>> feet, and I'd point out that that would still be better than any
> >>>>> cilantro soaked crap that Bobby Flay served up.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> What on earth do you have against cilantro?
> >>>>
> >>>> It's a wonderful and fragrant addition to so many dishes, including
> >>>> shrimp scampi in this household.
> >>>
> >>> It's shit on a stick. Flay uses it to cover up the stench of his
> >>> improperly cooked meat. It's for people that never outgrew eating
> >>> library paste.
> >>>
> >> You have no clue what a street taco is all about, do you?
> >
> > LOL, what, it's supposed to taste bad?
> >
>
> No, it's a tradition you seem to have no knowledge of.

Bad tasting tacos. Got it.

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Sqwertz wrote:
> I forgot I downloaded that the other night

About yer speed, lamer.