Are there variances in the fresh eggs you get? Can there be an egg
with a runnier white than another egg even though both are freshly
laid? (assuming both are from the same breed chicken) Could you tell
me more about what you observe? Thanks
Janet US

Janet Bostwick > wrote:
> Are there variances in the fresh eggs you get? Can there be an egg
> with a runnier white than another egg even though both are freshly
> laid? (assuming both are from the same breed chicken) Could you tell
> me more about what you observe? Thanks
> Janet US

Yes they are variances. Chickens that are molting, older hens, not enough
bugs can effect the eggs. If a chicken shows any kind of illness gets
culled and buried. every three years I send them all to butcher. Before I
do that I get get more chicks and keep them separate from the older hens.
If a hen is not producing a really nice egg I tend to have chicken for
dinner.

--
Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

On Fri, 3 Jun 2011 13:24:24 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
> wrote:

>Janet Bostwick > wrote:
>> Are there variances in the fresh eggs you get? Can there be an egg
>> with a runnier white than another egg even though both are freshly
>> laid? (assuming both are from the same breed chicken) Could you tell
>> me more about what you observe? Thanks
>> Janet US
>
>Yes they are variances. Chickens that are molting, older hens, not enough
>bugs can effect the eggs. If a chicken shows any kind of illness gets
>culled and buried. every three years I send them all to butcher. Before I
>do that I get get more chicks and keep them separate from the older hens.
>If a hen is not producing a really nice egg I tend to have chicken for
>dinner.

Nad R, your comment reminded me of something from my childhood. We
raised a couple hundred chicks at a time to fill the freezer once a
year. My Dad put up two bug zappers over the water trough they drank
from, and a light on the water itself. On a summer night, the zappers
would do their thing almost continuously, and each bug zapped would
fall into the water trough below it where it would land on top of the
brightly illuminated water.

It was like Pavlov's dogs, the chickens would hear the zap and all run
like hell for the water trough. The first there would snap up the bug.

At the time, I was about 5 or 6 years old, and I'm now 58, so it's an
old memory. I thought it was a lot of fun watching those chickens race
for the bugs.

My Dad told me later that it supplemented their diet with the protein
from the bugs and helped produce better eggs from the layers and
better meat from the ones destined for the freezer.

On Jun 3, 5:11*am, Janet Bostwick > wrote:
> Are there variances in the fresh eggs you get? *Can there be an egg
> with a runnier white than another egg even though both are freshly
> laid? *(assuming both are from the same breed chicken) *Could you tell
> me more about what you observe? *Thanks
> Janet US

I'm pretty new to this- we got 4 girls about 2 months ago- 2 buff
Sussex, 1 blue laced red Wyandotte, and a Copper Black Maran. They lay
3-4 a day, but I honestly haven't been able to tell between Laverne &
Shirley's (the Suxxexes) eggs. Black Betty's shells are a beautiful
dark brown, like chocolate. They are so funny to watch- when I bring
them out veg scraps, they come running- very comical!!!

"Nad R" > wrote in message
...
> Janet Bostwick > wrote:
>> Are there variances in the fresh eggs you get? Can there be an egg
>> with a runnier white than another egg even though both are freshly
>> laid? (assuming both are from the same breed chicken) Could you tell
>> me more about what you observe? Thanks
>> Janet US
>
> Yes they are variances. Chickens that are molting, older hens, not enough
> bugs can effect the eggs. If a chicken shows any kind of illness gets
> culled and buried. every three years I send them all to butcher. Before I
> do that I get get more chicks and keep them separate from the older hens.
> If a hen is not producing a really nice egg I tend to have chicken for
> dinner.


Sounds like a scene from Chicken Run.

Paul

On Jun 3, 11:07*am, "Paul M. Cook" > wrote:
> "Nad R" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > Janet Bostwick > wrote:
> >> Are there variances in the fresh eggs you get? *Can there be an egg
> >> with a runnier white than another egg even though both are freshly
> >> laid? *(assuming both are from the same breed chicken) *Could you tell
> >> me more about what you observe? *Thanks
> >> Janet US
>
> > Yes they are variances. Chickens that are molting, older hens, not enough
> > bugs can effect the eggs. If a chicken shows any kind of illness gets
> > culled and buried. every three years I send them all to butcher. Before I
> > do that I get get more chicks and keep them separate from the older hens.
> > If a hen is not producing a really nice egg I tend to have chicken for
> > dinner.
>
> Sounds like a scene from Chicken Run.
>
> Paul

==
That was a good "true to life" movie...I really enjoyed it.
==

On 4/06/2011 1:03 AM, Landon wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Jun 2011 13:24:24 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
> > wrote:
>
>> Janet > wrote:
>>> Are there variances in the fresh eggs you get? Can there be an egg
>>> with a runnier white than another egg even though both are freshly
>>> laid? (assuming both are from the same breed chicken) Could you tell
>>> me more about what you observe? Thanks
>>> Janet US
>>
>> Yes they are variances. Chickens that are molting, older hens, not enough
>> bugs can effect the eggs. If a chicken shows any kind of illness gets
>> culled and buried. every three years I send them all to butcher. Before I
>> do that I get get more chicks and keep them separate from the older hens.
>> If a hen is not producing a really nice egg I tend to have chicken for
>> dinner.
>
> Nad R, your comment reminded me of something from my childhood. We
> raised a couple hundred chicks at a time to fill the freezer once a
> year. My Dad put up two bug zappers over the water trough they drank
> from, and a light on the water itself. On a summer night, the zappers
> would do their thing almost continuously, and each bug zapped would
> fall into the water trough below it where it would land on top of the
> brightly illuminated water.
>
> It was like Pavlov's dogs, the chickens would hear the zap and all run
> like hell for the water trough. The first there would snap up the bug.
>
> At the time, I was about 5 or 6 years old, and I'm now 58, so it's an
> old memory. I thought it was a lot of fun watching those chickens race
> for the bugs.
>
> My Dad told me later that it supplemented their diet with the protein
> from the bugs and helped produce better eggs from the layers and
> better meat from the ones destined for the freezer.
>
So when the bugs get into our food, we shouldn't complain because it'll
make us grow up big and strong. We might even lay better eggs too! ;-)

Krypsis

exactly as my sister does, except i think she changes them out more often
but not sure how much more, Lee
"Nad R" > wrote in message
...
> Janet Bostwick > wrote:
>> Are there variances in the fresh eggs you get? Can there be an egg
>> with a runnier white than another egg even though both are freshly
>> laid? (assuming both are from the same breed chicken) Could you tell
>> me more about what you observe? Thanks
>> Janet US
>
> Yes they are variances. Chickens that are molting, older hens, not enough
> bugs can effect the eggs. If a chicken shows any kind of illness gets
> culled and buried. every three years I send them all to butcher. Before I
> do that I get get more chicks and keep them separate from the older hens.
> If a hen is not producing a really nice egg I tend to have chicken for
> dinner.
>
> --
> Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

On Fri, 3 Jun 2011 13:24:24 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
> wrote:

>Janet Bostwick > wrote:
>> Are there variances in the fresh eggs you get? Can there be an egg
>> with a runnier white than another egg even though both are freshly
>> laid? (assuming both are from the same breed chicken) Could you tell
>> me more about what you observe? Thanks
>> Janet US
>
>Yes they are variances. Chickens that are molting, older hens, not enough
>bugs can effect the eggs. If a chicken shows any kind of illness gets
>culled and buried. every three years I send them all to butcher. Before I
>do that I get get more chicks and keep them separate from the older hens.
>If a hen is not producing a really nice egg I tend to have chicken for
>dinner.
Thanks for your reply. I've never really paid any attention to eggs
before, but now that I am eating an egg every day, I notice. Some of
the eggs from various cartons over the last few weeks have had really
large yolks compared to others. From the same carton, some eggs will
whites that are runnier than others in the carton. I realize that the
eggs probably are sourced from some egg farm somewhere where thousands
of hens are busy, but I was curious any way.
Janet US

Krypsis > wrote:
> On 4/06/2011 1:03 AM, Landon wrote:
>> On Fri, 3 Jun 2011 13:24:24 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Janet > wrote:
>>>> Are there variances in the fresh eggs you get? Can there be an egg
>>>> with a runnier white than another egg even though both are freshly
>>>> laid? (assuming both are from the same breed chicken) Could you tell
>>>> me more about what you observe? Thanks
>>>> Janet US
>>>
>>> Yes they are variances. Chickens that are molting, older hens, not enough
>>> bugs can effect the eggs. If a chicken shows any kind of illness gets
>>> culled and buried. every three years I send them all to butcher. Before I
>>> do that I get get more chicks and keep them separate from the older hens.
>>> If a hen is not producing a really nice egg I tend to have chicken for
>>> dinner.
>>
>> Nad R, your comment reminded me of something from my childhood. We
>> raised a couple hundred chicks at a time to fill the freezer once a
>> year. My Dad put up two bug zappers over the water trough they drank
>> from, and a light on the water itself. On a summer night, the zappers
>> would do their thing almost continuously, and each bug zapped would
>> fall into the water trough below it where it would land on top of the
>> brightly illuminated water.
>>
>> It was like Pavlov's dogs, the chickens would hear the zap and all run
>> like hell for the water trough. The first there would snap up the bug.
>>
>> At the time, I was about 5 or 6 years old, and I'm now 58, so it's an
>> old memory. I thought it was a lot of fun watching those chickens race
>> for the bugs.
>>
>> My Dad told me later that it supplemented their diet with the protein
>> from the bugs and helped produce better eggs from the layers and
>> better meat from the ones destined for the freezer.

The bugs zapper sounds like a great idea, I just might try that. I only
have a dozen hens and one rooster. I have road island red chickens that
does double duty as layers or roasters. One hen house is enough for me.


> So when the bugs get into our food, we shouldn't complain because it'll
> make us grow up big and strong. We might even lay better eggs too! ;-)
>
> Krypsis

For the other thought. Humans do not typically consume bugs, but animals
can transform them into something eatable. Humans cannot eat grass, cattle
can eat grass and humans can eat the cattle. Grass can grow in the worst of
soil, therefore it increases human success for survival. Same with birds
eating insects. There are relationships between animals and plants. When
the humans killed off the bison, the prairie grasses went next. No more
natural fertilizers.

--
Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 03:02:25 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
> wrote:

>Krypsis > wrote:
>> On 4/06/2011 1:03 AM, Landon wrote:
>>> On Fri, 3 Jun 2011 13:24:24 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Janet > wrote:
>>>>> Are there variances in the fresh eggs you get? Can there be an egg
>>>>> with a runnier white than another egg even though both are freshly
>>>>> laid? (assuming both are from the same breed chicken) Could you tell
>>>>> me more about what you observe? Thanks
>>>>> Janet US
>>>>
>>>> Yes they are variances. Chickens that are molting, older hens, not enough
>>>> bugs can effect the eggs. If a chicken shows any kind of illness gets
>>>> culled and buried. every three years I send them all to butcher. Before I
>>>> do that I get get more chicks and keep them separate from the older hens.
>>>> If a hen is not producing a really nice egg I tend to have chicken for
>>>> dinner.
>>>
>>> Nad R, your comment reminded me of something from my childhood. We
>>> raised a couple hundred chicks at a time to fill the freezer once a
>>> year. My Dad put up two bug zappers over the water trough they drank
>>> from, and a light on the water itself. On a summer night, the zappers
>>> would do their thing almost continuously, and each bug zapped would
>>> fall into the water trough below it where it would land on top of the
>>> brightly illuminated water.
>>>
>>> It was like Pavlov's dogs, the chickens would hear the zap and all run
>>> like hell for the water trough. The first there would snap up the bug.
>>>
>>> At the time, I was about 5 or 6 years old, and I'm now 58, so it's an
>>> old memory. I thought it was a lot of fun watching those chickens race
>>> for the bugs.
>>>
>>> My Dad told me later that it supplemented their diet with the protein
>>> from the bugs and helped produce better eggs from the layers and
>>> better meat from the ones destined for the freezer.
>
>The bugs zapper sounds like a great idea, I just might try that. I only
>have a dozen hens and one rooster. I have road island red chickens that
>does double duty as layers or roasters. One hen house is enough for me.
>
>
>> So when the bugs get into our food, we shouldn't complain because it'll
>> make us grow up big and strong. We might even lay better eggs too! ;-)
>>
>> Krypsis
>
>For the other thought. Humans do not typically consume bugs, but animals
>can transform them into something eatable. Humans cannot eat grass, cattle
>can eat grass and humans can eat the cattle. Grass can grow in the worst of
>soil, therefore it increases human success for survival. Same with birds
>eating insects. There are relationships between animals and plants. When
>the humans killed off the bison, the prairie grasses went next. No more
>natural fertilizers.

You're actually right on target, Krypsis. Insects like grasshoppers
and crickets are very good sources of protein. I think perhaps Nad R
meant to say that humans in the west do not typically consume bugs. In
eastern countries and some of the more poor western countries, bugs
are a mainstay of lower income families.

There isn't the right frame of mind in most westerners thoughts to
accept eating insects as an additive to foods. It could be processed
in a manner that would be as safe or safer than any type of meat, but
the thought of eating "bugs" freaks out most westerners.

I'll have to look it up again, but in one of the two books on eatable
insects I own, it explains that pound for pound, insects have as much
protein in them as chicken. They are extremely simple to raise in
astronomical numbers and are a natural resolution to world starvation.
But people just won't use that resource.

If you leave them in their natural shape to eat them, it even
challenges me to eat them. Some sort of mental block...

Cooked, dried and ground into powder, I have no problem with it at
all. If cooked, dried grasshoppers were ground to a fine powder and
added to any brown sauce or gravy you ate, you'd not even know it was
there, and it would provide lots of perfectly lean protein with no
medically negative side-effects to most people.

We're a strange species, us humans. We can know and understand that
something will harm us and we'll still do it. We kill our own species
in huge numbers and we won't do the obvious things we should to
advance our own species.

It would be funny if it weren't such a shame.

Bugs? They won't hurt you if they aren't full of some man-made
pesticide. If they are, then sure, the bug would get it's revenge.

Raised in a controlled environment, insects would be a very
advantageous food source for billions of people.

If humans don't stop their own over-population of this globe, future
generations better get used to the idea of eating bugs. They'll have
to, to survive. The resources needed to raise a cow for one year would
raise 20 times that much in equal weight of protein from insects.

Interesting stuff, that.

On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 03:02:25 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
> wrote:

>The bugs zapper sounds like a great idea, I just might try that.

The zapper was about 4 feet above the water trough and Dad had a sheet
metal "guide" under it to direct the bugs to the water. The metal was
at a very steep angle. That's about as much as I can remember about
it's construction. I was more interested in watching the chickens
race...haha