On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 09:41:21 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

> Well, there is not one here in town and with gas nearly $4.00 per gallon
> now, I suspect any savings might be eaten up by that. :-(
>
> Sis' shops at Sams since there is one here in town, but thanks!

Do you have a Super Target nearby? DD has a Costco membership, but
she buys her paper products at her local super target now.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 04:03:52 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

> We've talked about it. ;-) Just need to coordinate going shopping
> together. There is a Sam's here in town but no Costco.

You'll have your own card so going together or not won't matter, but I
understand the gas consumption thing.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

On 06/06/2011 11:37 AM, Storrmmee wrote:
> toilet paper, papertowels and paper dinner ware along with things like
> foodsaver bags all cheaper or same as sams, costco also has a coupon flyer
> tha t is often excellent, sometimes as much as two dollars off a case of v8
> for example...
>

I used to have a Costco membership and went there occasionally. They
never had a lot of the things that I needed. There were some great
deals on things that were being marketed in bulk, like crackers in packs
of three. One of them was the plain, original style that I wanted and
the other two were flavoured. I once bought case of assorted Knorr soup
and pasta, add boiling water or nuke. Across the front was the variety
I expected top be inside, pasta prima vera, al fredo, chicken noodle,
leek and potato, but when I got inside it was all leek and potato soup.

I also tended to pick up a lot of what my son would call bar food,
cheese sticks, hot pepper poppers etc. I would end up spending way more
than I normally spent at the grocery store and still ahev to go grocery
shopping to get the stuff that Costco never carried, or which they only
had occasionally. Basically, I spent a lot of money getting stuff I
never used. I haven't been back for years.

it makes all the sense in the world for one or two people if you prefer good
quality foods, lots of organics and natural products at a reasonable
price... the almond butter savings and all natural peanut butter savings we
use more than pays for the basic membership, but what makes it worth while
is if you will use the products they offer, i loved getting fresh, not hot
house tomatoes all winter at less than a dollar fifty a pound most times we
went. Lee
"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 04:02:32 -0500, Omelet >
> wrote:
>
>> I don't need to buy food in bulk...
>
> It makes no sense for a single person and it barely makes sense for
> two.
>
> --
>
> Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

Pete C. > wrote:

>$50 a year should not be significant to anyone making over minimum wage,
>that's less than $4.17 per month.

Which is about 2% of the average American's food spend, so you'd
have to be saving that much for Costco to be cost-effective.

When we were Costco members, we could never get our Costco spending to
be more than about 20% of total grocery acquisition. The membership
was only cost-effiective if we were also buying other items such as
electronics, kitchenware, etc. But Costco does not necessarily have
low-price leadership or good selection on these non-food items.

Another problem is distance -- for us Costco requires 20 miles of
motor vehicle use to make one round trip, whereas essentially all our other
grocery shopping does not require driving anywhere. Each auto mile
has about a 50 cent cost for us, when you add everything up and average
it out.

Costco is also time-consuming and unpleasant. The only upside is the local
one is next to a bird sanctuary.

Steve

sf wrote:
>
> On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 08:13:50 -0500, "Pete C." >
> wrote:
>
> >
> > sf wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 22:27:24 -0500, "Pete C." >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I shop for one and have both Sam's and Costco memberships, the
> > > > membership cost is negligible.
> > >
> > > Pete, I don't know what world you live in but a membership at CostCo
> > > is significant to ordinary mortals. So I'm happy for you, brother,
> > > but don't expect the rest of us to reflect your views.
> >
> > $50 a year should not be significant to anyone making over minimum wage,
> > that's less than $4.17 per month.
>
> I forgot about that one, mine is $100. Glad to hear you're so rich
> that $50 is chump change to you.

A lot of people (who make less than I do) **** away $50-$100 every month
for useless crap like cable/satelite TV (I don't). $4.17 per month
should be chump change to nearly everyone.

Steve Pope wrote:
>
> Pete C. > wrote:
>
> >$50 a year should not be significant to anyone making over minimum wage,
> >that's less than $4.17 per month.
>
> Which is about 2% of the average American's food spend, so you'd
> have to be saving that much for Costco to be cost-effective.
>
> When we were Costco members, we could never get our Costco spending to
> be more than about 20% of total grocery acquisition.

If you limit yourself to groceries. Paper goods, plastic goods,
detergents, shampoos, soaps, mouthwash, vitamins, etc. easily make it
cost effective. I can't imagine not being able to save that $4.17/mo if
you put any effort into shopping at Costco.

> The membership
> was only cost-effiective if we were also buying other items such as
> electronics, kitchenware, etc. But Costco does not necessarily have
> low-price leadership or good selection on these non-food items.

I'll have to disagree on that. Costco generally has a notably lower
price on like items in those categories. If you are comparing a name
brand quality item at Costco with a similar no-name bargain basement
item at Wal-Mart you are not comparing like items.

>
> Another problem is distance -- for us Costco requires 20 miles of
> motor vehicle use to make one round trip, whereas essentially all our other
> grocery shopping does not require driving anywhere. Each auto mile
> has about a 50 cent cost for us, when you add everything up and average
> it out.

Costco is about 50 miles from me, but is in the loop of a regular
monthly trip, making it effectively a zero mileage trip for me. I can't
imagine what you're driving that costs you $0.50/mile, my "huge fluffed
up truck" costs me $0.27/mile.

>
> Costco is also time-consuming and unpleasant. The only upside is the local
> one is next to a bird sanctuary.

I've never found it to be time consuming, nor have I spent more than
about 45 minutes total on a Costco visit. Perhaps I'm just better
organized and less easily distracted.

As for unpleasant, I certainly find Sam's or Costco to be vastly more
pleasant than say Wal-Mart. The nominal membership fee seems to
eliminate a lot of the rif-raf and "wal-creatures" you have to contend
with at other places.

sf wrote:
>
> On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 04:02:32 -0500, Omelet >
> wrote:
>
> > I don't need to buy food in bulk...
>
> It makes no sense for a single person and it barely makes sense for
> two.

I makes plenty of sense for any organized shopper who can plan ahead,
manage household inventories and of course isn't stuck in some horrid
little city apartment with no room to store anything.

On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 14:02:27 -0500, "Pete C." >
wrote:

>
> sf wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 04:02:32 -0500, Omelet >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I don't need to buy food in bulk...
> >
> > It makes no sense for a single person and it barely makes sense for
> > two.
>
> I makes plenty of sense for any organized shopper who can plan ahead,
> manage household inventories and of course isn't stuck in some horrid
> little city apartment with no room to store anything.

There ya go. City living vs. countrified with your Texas sized garage
that's bigger than most people's homes.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

On Mon, 6 Jun 2011 12:30:38 -0500, "Storrmmee"
> wrote:

> it makes all the sense in the world for one or two people if you prefer good
> quality foods, lots of organics and natural products at a reasonable
> price... the almond butter savings and all natural peanut butter savings we
> use more than pays for the basic membership, but what makes it worth while
> is if you will use the products they offer, i loved getting fresh, not hot
> house tomatoes all winter at less than a dollar fifty a pound most times we
> went. Lee

I can get all the organic food and decent tomatoes I want within
blocks and it doesn't require a car to do it. As for nut butters, I
don't use them. About the only thing I think of Costco first for
these days is their Kirkland EVOO.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 13:59:25 -0500, "Pete C." >
wrote:

>
>Steve Pope wrote:
>>
>> Pete C. > wrote:
>>
>> >$50 a year should not be significant to anyone making over minimum wage,
>> >that's less than $4.17 per month.
>>
>> Which is about 2% of the average American's food spend, so you'd
>> have to be saving that much for Costco to be cost-effective.
>>
>> When we were Costco members, we could never get our Costco spending to
>> be more than about 20% of total grocery acquisition.
>
>If you limit yourself to groceries. Paper goods, plastic goods,
>detergents, shampoos, soaps, mouthwash, vitamins, etc. easily make it
>cost effective. I can't imagine not being able to save that $4.17/mo if
>you put any effort into shopping at Costco.

I can save twice that just in a years worth of shaving supplies;
blades and cream.

sf wrote:
>
> On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 14:02:27 -0500, "Pete C." >
> wrote:
>
> >
> > sf wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 04:02:32 -0500, Omelet >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I don't need to buy food in bulk...
> > >
> > > It makes no sense for a single person and it barely makes sense for
> > > two.
> >
> > I makes plenty of sense for any organized shopper who can plan ahead,
> > manage household inventories and of course isn't stuck in some horrid
> > little city apartment with no room to store anything.
>
> There ya go. City living vs. countrified with your Texas sized garage
> that's bigger than most people's homes.

Yep, I live here with elbow room, while the city dwellers merely exist
in their tiny little rat cages.

sf wrote:
>
> On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 17:11:44 -0500, "Pete C." >
> wrote:
>
> > Yep, I live here with elbow room, while the city dwellers merely exist
> > in their tiny little rat cages.
>
> If you think you're hurting my feelings, you're wrong. I know what
> it's like to live in the country (b-o-r-i-n-g) and prefer city life.

If you think that country life is b-o-r-i-n-g you don't have a clue
about it.

On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 18:57:40 -0500, "Pete C." >
wrote:

>
> sf wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 17:11:44 -0500, "Pete C." >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Yep, I live here with elbow room, while the city dwellers merely exist
> > > in their tiny little rat cages.
> >
> > If you think you're hurting my feelings, you're wrong. I know what
> > it's like to live in the country (b-o-r-i-n-g) and prefer city life.
>
> If you think that country life is b-o-r-i-n-g you don't have a clue
> about it.

I don't care what you think.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

and costco is jsut so much cleaner than wally, that alone is worth part of
the money... and we have to go twenty miles from our house just to get to
any sort of grocery, we would starve if close was a qualifier, Lee
"Pete C." > wrote in message
ster.com...
>
> Steve Pope wrote:
>>
>> Pete C. > wrote:
>>
>> >$50 a year should not be significant to anyone making over minimum wage,
>> >that's less than $4.17 per month.
>>
>> Which is about 2% of the average American's food spend, so you'd
>> have to be saving that much for Costco to be cost-effective.
>>
>> When we were Costco members, we could never get our Costco spending to
>> be more than about 20% of total grocery acquisition.
>
> If you limit yourself to groceries. Paper goods, plastic goods,
> detergents, shampoos, soaps, mouthwash, vitamins, etc. easily make it
> cost effective. I can't imagine not being able to save that $4.17/mo if
> you put any effort into shopping at Costco.
>
>> The membership
>> was only cost-effiective if we were also buying other items such as
>> electronics, kitchenware, etc. But Costco does not necessarily have
>> low-price leadership or good selection on these non-food items.
>
> I'll have to disagree on that. Costco generally has a notably lower
> price on like items in those categories. If you are comparing a name
> brand quality item at Costco with a similar no-name bargain basement
> item at Wal-Mart you are not comparing like items.
>
>>
>> Another problem is distance -- for us Costco requires 20 miles of
>> motor vehicle use to make one round trip, whereas essentially all our
>> other
>> grocery shopping does not require driving anywhere. Each auto mile
>> has about a 50 cent cost for us, when you add everything up and average
>> it out.
>
> Costco is about 50 miles from me, but is in the loop of a regular
> monthly trip, making it effectively a zero mileage trip for me. I can't
> imagine what you're driving that costs you $0.50/mile, my "huge fluffed
> up truck" costs me $0.27/mile.
>
>>
>> Costco is also time-consuming and unpleasant. The only upside is the
>> local
>> one is next to a bird sanctuary.
>
> I've never found it to be time consuming, nor have I spent more than
> about 45 minutes total on a Costco visit. Perhaps I'm just better
> organized and less easily distracted.
>
> As for unpleasant, I certainly find Sam's or Costco to be vastly more
> pleasant than say Wal-Mart. The nominal membership fee seems to
> eliminate a lot of the rif-raf and "wal-creatures" you have to contend
> with at other places.

even with the pitas of no close grocery, and only a post office to call a
business, it is still prerrable to anything approaching city life... too
close, too noisy and too crowded, when the hotel caught on fire last
thursday night, the fire alarm went off, and the firedept was here quickly,
but only after they got the fire under control did anyoneone even check to
see if we were out of our room... hotel staff were doing what they were
supposed to , but not one other long termer came to see if we were ok or had
gotten the cats out,... when our house burnt the fire dept was there in four
minutes, well the volenteers were, it took the truck six to get aound the
block... everyone who lived nearby came to offer assistance an support,...
if thats boring i am all for boring, Lee


"Pete C." > wrote in message
er.com...
>
> sf wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 17:11:44 -0500, "Pete C." >
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Yep, I live here with elbow room, while the city dwellers merely exist
>> > in their tiny little rat cages.
>>
>> If you think you're hurting my feelings, you're wrong. I know what
>> it's like to live in the country (b-o-r-i-n-g) and prefer city life.
>
> If you think that country life is b-o-r-i-n-g you don't have a clue
> about it.

if not using a car and paying the prices you suits you good, but your way of
life isn't for everyone,... as i said, i love getting fresh, not hothouse,
tomatoes for under a buck and a half a pound... ymmv Lee
"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 6 Jun 2011 12:30:38 -0500, "Storrmmee"
> > wrote:
>
>> it makes all the sense in the world for one or two people if you prefer
>> good
>> quality foods, lots of organics and natural products at a reasonable
>> price... the almond butter savings and all natural peanut butter savings
>> we
>> use more than pays for the basic membership, but what makes it worth
>> while
>> is if you will use the products they offer, i loved getting fresh, not
>> hot
>> house tomatoes all winter at less than a dollar fifty a pound most times
>> we
>> went. Lee
>
> I can get all the organic food and decent tomatoes I want within
> blocks and it doesn't require a car to do it. As for nut butters, I
> don't use them. About the only thing I think of Costco first for
> these days is their Kirkland EVOO.
>
> --
>
> Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

yes they have been checked/cultured/poked and prodded... in fact the last
one we got was refused by the first people in line because they just "knew"
he had mites... in fact he just has waxy ears... we get ear meds for it when
it occurs and it goes away the first/second day...

I agree if you haven't had one hecked its mandatory for the long term health
of the animal. Once we figured out it wasn't mites, we have embarked on a
search to correct it permantly instead of just treating the symptoms...
storrmmee exhibhits all the symptoms of an ear infection but there is no
residue in her ears ever... so that leaves infections of an undeterminite
nature which is ruled out and allergies/envriomental irritation... switching
to this food has cut gunk and itchy ear syndrome by about 95 percent... cats
are much happier and the only draw back i can see is that storrmmee no
longer has a reason to visit me when the dh is out to rub her ears... she is
devoted only to him and i am just the substandard human that will "have to
do" when he is out. lol.

now to those carpets, every doctor i have ever spoken to hates them for any
being that breathes... our new how will have no carpet and if it works out,
not quite sure yet, all or part of our windows will have blinds inside the
glass so we can dispense with curtains/drapes as well, only windowshades
which can be repaced easily/cheaply will be used.

Lee
"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> "Storrmmee" > wrote:
>
>> i don't know about the prices but it is rumored that good producers make
>> it
>> for them... but tbh after using a couple of bags of this blue wilderness
>> for
>> the cats i won't switch as long as i can afford it, much improved coats,
>> less shedding and less ear gunk.
>>
>> Lee
>
> If they have ear gunk, it's likely ear mites. Has the vet checked for
> that?
>
> Getting rid of wall to wall carpeting permanently got rid of the
> periodic ear mite problems we've had with cats in the past...
>
> Wall to wall carpeting is one of the worst ideas ever invented for human
> health any way. There is no way to keep it clean for even a day.
>
> My mom's Pulmonologist told us that we should get rid of it permanently
> for a number of reasons, especially respiratory health.
> --
> Peace, Om
> Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
>
> "Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have
> come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first."
> -- Mark Twain

the dh was in ours tonight, they are higher on most items than wally is,
leaving out the odd special, the basics, for a family are ten to fifteen
percent higher at our, toilet paper, shampoo and similar.

Lee
"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> sf > wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 09:41:21 -0500, Omelet >
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Well, there is not one here in town and with gas nearly $4.00 per
>> > gallon
>> > now, I suspect any savings might be eaten up by that. :-(
>> >
>> > Sis' shops at Sams since there is one here in town, but thanks!
>>
>> Do you have a Super Target nearby? DD has a Costco membership, but
>> she buys her paper products at her local super target now.
>
> They just built one recently but to date, their prices have not been
> bargain. :-(
> --
> Peace, Om
> Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
>
> "Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have
> come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first."
> -- Mark Twain

while they are holding a six dollar cappicino in the hand that doesn't have
the phone in it, we have never had cabel or dish unless it was offerred in
the accomodation we were living in, he likes movies and i have never cared
for tv, so its a total time waster for us to pay a hundred dollars a month
to just be spending it, Lee
"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article .com>,
> "Pete C." > wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>> >
>> > On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 08:13:50 -0500, "Pete C." >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > sf wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 22:27:24 -0500, "Pete C." >
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > I shop for one and have both Sam's and Costco memberships, the
>> > > > > membership cost is negligible.
>> > > >
>> > > > Pete, I don't know what world you live in but a membership at
>> > > > CostCo
>> > > > is significant to ordinary mortals. So I'm happy for you, brother,
>> > > > but don't expect the rest of us to reflect your views.
>> > >
>> > > $50 a year should not be significant to anyone making over minimum
>> > > wage,
>> > > that's less than $4.17 per month.
>> >
>> > I forgot about that one, mine is $100. Glad to hear you're so rich
>> > that $50 is chump change to you.
>>
>> A lot of people (who make less than I do) **** away $50-$100 every month
>> for useless crap like cable/satelite TV (I don't). $4.17 per month
>> should be chump change to nearly everyone.
>
> I agree with THAT one! I see it all the time... Many people with the
> most electronic crap including smart phones make low wages and bitch
> about what they can't afford...
> --
> Peace, Om
> Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
>
> "Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have
> come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first."
> -- Mark Twain

and i forgot that i read an article a few years back that the fire retardant
in carpet and furniture was responsible for the increase of a couple of
kinds of thyroid disease in cats and some dogs, ca disallowed whatever this
stuff was and it seems that the rates of this thyroid issues is going down
in ca... yet another reason to not have carpet and furniture that is NOT
cloth clovered, Lee
"Storrmmee" > wrote in message
...
> yes they have been checked/cultured/poked and prodded... in fact the last
> one we got was refused by the first people in line because they just
> "knew" he had mites... in fact he just has waxy ears... we get ear meds
> for it when it occurs and it goes away the first/second day...
>
> I agree if you haven't had one hecked its mandatory for the long term
> health of the animal. Once we figured out it wasn't mites, we have
> embarked on a search to correct it permantly instead of just treating the
> symptoms... storrmmee exhibhits all the symptoms of an ear infection but
> there is no residue in her ears ever... so that leaves infections of an
> undeterminite nature which is ruled out and allergies/envriomental
> irritation... switching to this food has cut gunk and itchy ear syndrome
> by about 95 percent... cats are much happier and the only draw back i can
> see is that storrmmee no longer has a reason to visit me when the dh is
> out to rub her ears... she is devoted only to him and i am just the
> substandard human that will "have to do" when he is out. lol.
>
> now to those carpets, every doctor i have ever spoken to hates them for
> any being that breathes... our new how will have no carpet and if it works
> out, not quite sure yet, all or part of our windows will have blinds
> inside the glass so we can dispense with curtains/drapes as well, only
> windowshades which can be repaced easily/cheaply will be used.
>
> Lee
> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> news
>> In article >,
>> "Storrmmee" > wrote:
>>
>>> i don't know about the prices but it is rumored that good producers make
>>> it
>>> for them... but tbh after using a couple of bags of this blue wilderness
>>> for
>>> the cats i won't switch as long as i can afford it, much improved coats,
>>> less shedding and less ear gunk.
>>>
>>> Lee
>>
>> If they have ear gunk, it's likely ear mites. Has the vet checked for
>> that?
>>
>> Getting rid of wall to wall carpeting permanently got rid of the
>> periodic ear mite problems we've had with cats in the past...
>>
>> Wall to wall carpeting is one of the worst ideas ever invented for human
>> health any way. There is no way to keep it clean for even a day.
>>
>> My mom's Pulmonologist told us that we should get rid of it permanently
>> for a number of reasons, especially respiratory health.
>> --
>> Peace, Om
>> Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
>>
>> "Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have
>> come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first."
>> -- Mark Twain
>
>

Storrmmee wrote:
>
> even with the pitas of no close grocery, and only a post office to call a
> business, it is still prerrable to anything approaching city life... too
> close, too noisy and too crowded, when the hotel caught on fire last
> thursday night, the fire alarm went off, and the firedept was here quickly,
> but only after they got the fire under control did anyoneone even check to
> see if we were out of our room... hotel staff were doing what they were
> supposed to , but not one other long termer came to see if we were ok or had
> gotten the cats out,... when our house burnt the fire dept was there in four
> minutes, well the volenteers were, it took the truck six to get aound the
> block... everyone who lived nearby came to offer assistance an support,...
> if thats boring i am all for boring, Lee

Yep. I've been to plenty of cities, and I can't think of a single
desirable thing in a city that I don't have within a ten minute drive
from my quiet, safe, peaceful, spacious home and yard.



>
> "Pete C." > wrote in message
> er.com...
> >
> > sf wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 17:11:44 -0500, "Pete C." >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Yep, I live here with elbow room, while the city dwellers merely exist
> >> > in their tiny little rat cages.
> >>
> >> If you think you're hurting my feelings, you're wrong. I know what
> >> it's like to live in the country (b-o-r-i-n-g) and prefer city life.
> >
> > If you think that country life is b-o-r-i-n-g you don't have a clue
> > about it.

ours is a longer drive but still worth it for the quiet, Lee

"Pete C." > wrote in message
ter.com...
>
> Storrmmee wrote:
>>
>> even with the pitas of no close grocery, and only a post office to call a
>> business, it is still prerrable to anything approaching city life... too
>> close, too noisy and too crowded, when the hotel caught on fire last
>> thursday night, the fire alarm went off, and the firedept was here
>> quickly,
>> but only after they got the fire under control did anyoneone even check
>> to
>> see if we were out of our room... hotel staff were doing what they were
>> supposed to , but not one other long termer came to see if we were ok or
>> had
>> gotten the cats out,... when our house burnt the fire dept was there in
>> four
>> minutes, well the volenteers were, it took the truck six to get aound the
>> block... everyone who lived nearby came to offer assistance an
>> support,...
>> if thats boring i am all for boring, Lee
>
> Yep. I've been to plenty of cities, and I can't think of a single
> desirable thing in a city that I don't have within a ten minute drive
> from my quiet, safe, peaceful, spacious home and yard.
>
>
>
>>
>> "Pete C." > wrote in message
>> er.com...
>> >
>> > sf wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 17:11:44 -0500, "Pete C." >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Yep, I live here with elbow room, while the city dwellers merely
>> >> > exist
>> >> > in their tiny little rat cages.
>> >>
>> >> If you think you're hurting my feelings, you're wrong. I know what
>> >> it's like to live in the country (b-o-r-i-n-g) and prefer city life.
>> >
>> > If you think that country life is b-o-r-i-n-g you don't have a clue
>> > about it.

blake murphy wrote:
>
> On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 17:11:44 -0500, Pete C. wrote:
>
> > sf wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 14:02:27 -0500, "Pete C." >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> sf wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 04:02:32 -0500, Omelet >
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > > I don't need to buy food in bulk...
> >>> >
> >>> > It makes no sense for a single person and it barely makes sense for
> >>> > two.
> >>>
> >>> I makes plenty of sense for any organized shopper who can plan ahead,
> >>> manage household inventories and of course isn't stuck in some horrid
> >>> little city apartment with no room to store anything.
> >>
> >> There ya go. City living vs. countrified with your Texas sized garage
> >> that's bigger than most people's homes.
> >
> > Yep, I live here with elbow room, while the city dwellers merely exist
> > in their tiny little rat cages.
>
> you left out filthy!
>
> blake

Indeed, but most anyone who doesn't live in a city and thus isn't
acclimated to the filth is well aware of it.

possible causes include but apparently aren;t limited to:
-food allergies, usually grains, corn and wheat being the biggest culprets.
-systemic yeast infetions that are activiated by something enviromental.
-dust mites which are different from regular animal mites, both of which can
thrive in the yeasty gunky ear wax and some feel the gunkly ear wax
actutually attracts both kinds of mites which is why its important to try ad
get rid of it asap when it appears.
-natural over production of ear wax that build up faster than the cat can
clean it out.
-chemical irritants sorta allergy like but maybe not technically but
exposure to x substance causes over production of wax, haven;t found any of
these yet, but Tiger the cat that went to rb just after the fire had a very
negative reaction to fabreeze that took a while to discover, if i sprayed it
anywhere in the house where he might go, withen two days he had licked off
all his belly fur, even whne he didn't lay on the surface where it was
sprayed,

Lee
"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> "Storrmmee" > wrote:
>
>> yes they have been checked/cultured/poked and prodded... in fact the last
>> one we got was refused by the first people in line because they just
>> "knew"
>> he had mites... in fact he just has waxy ears... we get ear meds for it
>> when
>> it occurs and it goes away the first/second day...
>
> Interesting... The only time any cats I have had had ear gunk was ear
> mites. Wonder what else causes it?
>
>>
>> I agree if you haven't had one hecked its mandatory for the long term
>> health
>> of the animal. Once we figured out it wasn't mites, we have embarked on
>> a
>> search to correct it permantly instead of just treating the symptoms...
>> storrmmee exhibhits all the symptoms of an ear infection but there is no
>> residue in her ears ever... so that leaves infections of an undeterminite
>> nature which is ruled out and allergies/envriomental irritation...
>> switching
>> to this food has cut gunk and itchy ear syndrome by about 95 percent...
>> cats
>> are much happier and the only draw back i can see is that storrmmee no
>> longer has a reason to visit me when the dh is out to rub her ears... she
>> is
>> devoted only to him and i am just the substandard human that will "have
>> to
>> do" when he is out. lol.
>>
>> now to those carpets, every doctor i have ever spoken to hates them for
>> any
>> being that breathes... our new how will have no carpet and if it works
>> out,
>> not quite sure yet, all or part of our windows will have blinds inside
>> the
>> glass so we can dispense with curtains/drapes as well, only windowshades
>> which can be repaced easily/cheaply will be used.
>>
>> Lee
>
> Blackout curtains are sis's favorite while I favor washable ones I can
> change regularly.
> --
> Peace, Om
> Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
>
> "Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have
> come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first."
> -- Mark Twain

agree about bedding, i like some items at target but those are also not
based on price, i was limiting my comments to price as we were discussing
prices at costco/target...

they have really nice cashew peices the dh really likes because they are
unsalted, a bit higher than sams but worth it to avoid the salt. small
appliances as i am sure you know are often great quality nd better
selection...some clothing items if you re selectiv,e, Lee
"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> "Storrmmee" > wrote:
>
>> the dh was in ours tonight, they are higher on most items than wally is,
>> leaving out the odd special, the basics, for a family are ten to fifteen
>> percent higher at our, toilet paper, shampoo and similar.
>>
>> Lee
>> "Omelet" > wrote in message
>> news
>> > In article >,
>> > sf > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 09:41:21 -0500, Omelet >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Well, there is not one here in town and with gas nearly $4.00 per
>> >> > gallon
>> >> > now, I suspect any savings might be eaten up by that. :-(
>> >> >
>> >> > Sis' shops at Sams since there is one here in town, but thanks!
>> >>
>> >> Do you have a Super Target nearby? DD has a Costco membership, but
>> >> she buys her paper products at her local super target now.
>> >
>> > They just built one recently but to date, their prices have not been
>> > bargain. :-(
>> > --
>> > Peace, Om
>> > Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
>> >
>> > "Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have
>> > come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first."
>> > -- Mark Twain
>
> I only prefer Target's Bedding, and that is due to Quality, not price.
> Towels too. Other than that? The jewelry area is one to be avoided
> unless you have spare change. <g> Unbearably great selection.
>
> Over Christmas, their educational toy section for young children is
> superior to anyone I've checked.
> --
> Peace, Om
> Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
>
> "Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have
> come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first."
> -- Mark Twain

On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 12:13:56 -0500, Pete C. wrote:

> blake murphy wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 17:11:44 -0500, Pete C. wrote:
>>
>>> sf wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 14:02:27 -0500, "Pete C." >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> sf wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 04:02:32 -0500, Omelet >
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > I don't need to buy food in bulk...
>>>>> >
>>>>> > It makes no sense for a single person and it barely makes sense for
>>>>> > two.
>>>>>
>>>>> I makes plenty of sense for any organized shopper who can plan ahead,
>>>>> manage household inventories and of course isn't stuck in some horrid
>>>>> little city apartment with no room to store anything.
>>>>
>>>> There ya go. City living vs. countrified with your Texas sized garage
>>>> that's bigger than most people's homes.
>>>
>>> Yep, I live here with elbow room, while the city dwellers merely exist
>>> in their tiny little rat cages.
>>
>> you left out filthy!
>>
>> blake
>
> Indeed, but most anyone who doesn't live in a city and thus isn't
> acclimated to the filth is well aware of it.

anal-retentive people that are afraid of life, sure.

blake

blake murphy wrote:
>
> On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 12:13:56 -0500, Pete C. wrote:
>
> > blake murphy wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 17:11:44 -0500, Pete C. wrote:
> >>
> >>> sf wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 14:02:27 -0500, "Pete C." >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> sf wrote:
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 04:02:32 -0500, Omelet >
> >>>>> > wrote:
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > > I don't need to buy food in bulk...
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > It makes no sense for a single person and it barely makes sense for
> >>>>> > two.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I makes plenty of sense for any organized shopper who can plan ahead,
> >>>>> manage household inventories and of course isn't stuck in some horrid
> >>>>> little city apartment with no room to store anything.
> >>>>
> >>>> There ya go. City living vs. countrified with your Texas sized garage
> >>>> that's bigger than most people's homes.
> >>>
> >>> Yep, I live here with elbow room, while the city dwellers merely exist
> >>> in their tiny little rat cages.
> >>
> >> you left out filthy!
> >>
> >> blake
> >
> > Indeed, but most anyone who doesn't live in a city and thus isn't
> > acclimated to the filth is well aware of it.
>
> anal-retentive people that are afraid of life, sure.
>
> blake

Heh, "life" is out here where you actually own land, have room for a
nice big shop, have a real yard for BBQs, etc.

Sycophant wrote:

> I feel just the opposite. I prefer the taste of farmed to wild salmon.
> Wild salmon has an almost "metallic" taste to me.

Most salmon farms are ecological disasters. Did you really not know, or do
you just not care?

Bob

Sycophant wrote:

> I don't need to buy food in bulk...

Do you think nobody has seen your mug shot? You are NOT a petite woman, and
you didn't get to be that size by eating petite portions.

Bob

sf wrote:

>> I shop for one and have both Sam's and Costco memberships, the
>> membership cost is negligible.
>
> Pete, I don't know what world you live in but a membership at CostCo
> is significant to ordinary mortals. So I'm happy for you, brother,
> but don't expect the rest of us to reflect your views.

I just shop for Lin and myself, but the Costco membership easily pays for
itself in savings. Hell, the savings on wine alone pay for the membership!
Things we routinely buy at Costco a

Paper goods (toilet paper, paper plates, paper towels, and napkins)
Booze
Dog food
Cat litter
Razors
Prescription drugs
Over-the-counter drugs
Contact lenses
Printer cartridges

Occasionally we'll buy groceries, especially:

Mushrooms -- for some reason, Costco consistently has just the right size
mushrooms to make stuffed mushrooms.
Broccoli
Milk
Cheeses: Parm-Reggiano, Pecorino Romano, and Provolone in particular


I come out *way* ahead after all the savings are applied.

Bob

Carol wrote:

> Of course on the ship, it was always pre-cooked frozen.

On YOUR ship, maybe! :-)

My first ship had the great fortune to be invited to the annual Lobster
Festival in Winter Harbor, Maine. The Supply Officer brought on enough live
lobsters to feed the crew the first dinner on our way back to Charleston.
That remains some of the best lobster I've ever had, and is far and away the
best meal I ever ate in the Navy.

Bob

On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 23:14:28 -0700, "Bob Terwilliger"
> wrote:

> I come out *way* ahead after all the savings are applied.

It doesn't work that way for us anymore. We don't need those huge
amounts of perishables and most staples can be purchased elsewhere
(better brands, on sale). I still haven't given up my membership, but
there are fewer and fewer trips to costco anymore. I only bought
Kirkland EVOO last time. I had intended to buy some prime meat, but
that store had such a small section I almost missed it and I didn't
think what they had looked very good.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote:
> sf wrote:
>
>>> I shop for one and have both Sam's and Costco memberships, the
>>> membership cost is negligible.
>>
>> Pete, I don't know what world you live in but a membership at CostCo
>> is significant to ordinary mortals. So I'm happy for you, brother,
>> but don't expect the rest of us to reflect your views.
>
> I just shop for Lin and myself, but the Costco membership easily pays for
> itself in savings. Hell, the savings on wine alone pay for the membership!
> Things we routinely buy at Costco a
>
> Paper goods (toilet paper, paper plates, paper towels, and napkins)
> Booze
> Dog food
> Cat litter
> Razors
> Prescription drugs
> Over-the-counter drugs
> Contact lenses
> Printer cartridges
>
> Occasionally we'll buy groceries, especially:
>
> Mushrooms -- for some reason, Costco consistently has just the right size
> mushrooms to make stuffed mushrooms.
> Broccoli
> Milk
> Cheeses: Parm-Reggiano, Pecorino Romano, and Provolone in particular
>
>
> I come out *way* ahead after all the savings are applied.
>
> Bob

I have a Costco membership also. However, I find my local markets often
have better prices if I read the sales papers. I prefer the local
specialities stores better. I goto Costco's when other stores have no
sales.

--
Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

sf > wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 23:14:28 -0700, "Bob Terwilliger"
> > wrote:
>
>> I come out *way* ahead after all the savings are applied.
>
> It doesn't work that way for us anymore. We don't need those huge
> amounts of perishables and most staples can be purchased elsewhere
> (better brands, on sale). I still haven't given up my membership, but
> there are fewer and fewer trips to costco anymore. I only bought
> Kirkland EVOO last time. I had intended to buy some prime meat, but
> that store had such a small section I almost missed it and I didn't
> think what they had looked very good.

It is the Cashews and bulk Hershey candy bars are the biggest draws for me
at Costco. Sometimes Jelly Bellies

Otherwise the local mega produce stores are far better on cost and quality
on produce and meats. Even on gas Costco seems a bit higher on occasion.

--
Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

above and beyond the savings, since most of what they sell are made by
"name" brand makers the value is increased... but beyond my work related
items, i do like the quality of the organic items which i have never seen
cheaper ntot even at farmers maekers... but in the interest of full
disclosure, most our farmers markets lack...

Lee
"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in message
b.com...
> sf wrote:
>
>>> I shop for one and have both Sam's and Costco memberships, the
>>> membership cost is negligible.
>>
>> Pete, I don't know what world you live in but a membership at CostCo
>> is significant to ordinary mortals. So I'm happy for you, brother,
>> but don't expect the rest of us to reflect your views.
>
> I just shop for Lin and myself, but the Costco membership easily pays for
> itself in savings. Hell, the savings on wine alone pay for the membership!
> Things we routinely buy at Costco a
>
> Paper goods (toilet paper, paper plates, paper towels, and napkins)
> Booze
> Dog food
> Cat litter
> Razors
> Prescription drugs
> Over-the-counter drugs
> Contact lenses
> Printer cartridges
>
> Occasionally we'll buy groceries, especially:
>
> Mushrooms -- for some reason, Costco consistently has just the right size
> mushrooms to make stuffed mushrooms.
> Broccoli
> Milk
> Cheeses: Parm-Reggiano, Pecorino Romano, and Provolone in particular
>
>
> I come out *way* ahead after all the savings are applied.
>
> Bob
>

Pete C. wrote:

> Yep. I've been to plenty of cities, and I can't think of a single
> desirable thing in a city that I don't have within a ten minute drive
> from my quiet, safe, peaceful, spacious home and yard.

Turkish restaurant? Coffee house with chess masters in residence? YMCA?

Bob

"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in message
b.com...
> sf wrote:
>
>>> I shop for one and have both Sam's and Costco memberships, the
>>> membership cost is negligible.
>>
>> Pete, I don't know what world you live in but a membership at CostCo
>> is significant to ordinary mortals. So I'm happy for you, brother,
>> but don't expect the rest of us to reflect your views.
>
> I just shop for Lin and myself, but the Costco membership easily pays for
> itself in savings. Hell, the savings on wine alone pay for the membership!
> Things we routinely buy at Costco a
>
> Paper goods (toilet paper, paper plates, paper towels, and napkins)
> Booze
> Dog food
> Cat litter
> Razors
> Prescription drugs
> Over-the-counter drugs
> Contact lenses
> Printer cartridges
>
> Occasionally we'll buy groceries, especially:
>
> Mushrooms -- for some reason, Costco consistently has just the right size
> mushrooms to make stuffed mushrooms.
> Broccoli
> Milk
> Cheeses: Parm-Reggiano, Pecorino Romano, and Provolone in particular
>
>
> I come out *way* ahead after all the savings are applied.

I didn't think it would be worth my while with three of us. Then with just
two of us when my husband got transferred to another state and daughter and
I stayed behind. But we really do save!

Once in a while I buy ground beef or chicken breasts. Less often other
meats. Much of their meat does come in quantities too large for us to eat.

I buy sliced apples and baby carrots there. Sometimes peppers, lettuce or
other things. I will not buy bananas. Got a severe fruit fly infestation
from that. Will not buy onions or potatoes. Keep getting rotten ones.

I buy canned olives, vegetables, fruit, broth. I buy juice and bottled
water. Sometimes I buy chips and salsa.

They have the best price on cat litter!

I buy some vitamins and supplements. Body wash, shampoo and toothpaste.
Once in a while a few other cosmetic type items.

I buy my batteries there. Best price around.

Husband likes the golf balls they sell.

I sometimes buy books there.

And I ship gifts directly from them. Many have no shipping charge.

I do save money. I save a lot of money! And I have to go shopping less
often for some of the things I can buy by the case.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 23:14:28 -0700, "Bob Terwilliger"
> > wrote:
>
>> I come out *way* ahead after all the savings are applied.
>
> It doesn't work that way for us anymore. We don't need those huge
> amounts of perishables and most staples can be purchased elsewhere
> (better brands, on sale). I still haven't given up my membership, but
> there are fewer and fewer trips to costco anymore. I only bought
> Kirkland EVOO last time. I had intended to buy some prime meat, but
> that store had such a small section I almost missed it and I didn't
> think what they had looked very good.

I forgot about the olive oil. I usually buy it there. But this last time I
got a small bottle on sale at Albertsons and used a double coupon on it so
it cost me very little. Won't last as long as the Costco stuff though.

"Nad R" > wrote in message
...
> sf > wrote:
>> On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 23:14:28 -0700, "Bob Terwilliger"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I come out *way* ahead after all the savings are applied.
>>
>> It doesn't work that way for us anymore. We don't need those huge
>> amounts of perishables and most staples can be purchased elsewhere
>> (better brands, on sale). I still haven't given up my membership, but
>> there are fewer and fewer trips to costco anymore. I only bought
>> Kirkland EVOO last time. I had intended to buy some prime meat, but
>> that store had such a small section I almost missed it and I didn't
>> think what they had looked very good.
>
> It is the Cashews and bulk Hershey candy bars are the biggest draws for me
> at Costco. Sometimes Jelly Bellies
>
> Otherwise the local mega produce stores are far better on cost and quality
> on produce and meats. Even on gas Costco seems a bit higher on occasion.

For me Costco is the cheapest on gas. Exception being a nearby Arco that
charges the same price. My dad however gets gas for less at Fred Meyer,
but... He shops there a lot and gets fuel rewards. I rarely shop there
because of their high prices.