it might work if its rosmary's baby, Lee
"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:18:31 -0500, "Storrmmee"
> > wrote:
>
>> i even killed an air fern, Lee
>
> Okay, start with rosemary then.
>
> --
>
> Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 11:45:00 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

> I bought prostrate rosemary since the city
> has it growing all over town.

I started off with that one too, but replanted because I use it for
cooking so I wanted longer needles.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

On 6/15/2011 10:52 AM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 09:22:49 -0500, "Storrmmee"
> > wrote:
>
>> if i could grow anything i would be there trying it with you, right now i am
>> researching herbs in pots after the tread i started here, ginger is on the
>> list, so maybe if i ever get my nerve up, i really hate killing things, Lee
>
> Rosemary is almost impossible to kill (it seems like only cold does
> it), Lee, and I have had sage plants that seem to thrive on neglect
> for years. Thyme, marjoram, oregano and parsley only need a little
> water thrown on them from time to time. I suppose how often you need
> to water depends on how much heat you get. If you have heat and are
> willing to water, try growing basil. It loves sun, heat and water.
> Mint likes wet feet, heat and a little shade, it thrived under the
> cover over a leaky water pump at my mother's place. The blazing sun
> and surrounding parched ground assured that it didn't romp around the
> rest of the property.
>
The hardiest herb that I know around my part of the world is oregano. It
can even compete and win with English Ivy given only whatever rain falls
on it. It even flowers and spreads by seed. All the others mentioned
seem to have unreasonable demands like water tho' chives do quite well.

--


James Silverton, Potomac

I'm *not*

to be clear my comment wasn't directed at him. brown rice should be fine,
not even sure you should take it out and repackage...

Lee
"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> "Storrmmee" > wrote:
>
>> i don't know anything about sheldon anymore...
>
> He really does keep a tidy freezer.
>>
>> rice should be fine as far as eating it, but i would probably cook a
>> sample
>> and taste it to make sure, if it isn't perfect it can go into the
>> pooches,
>> or cats food as well, mine all love white and brown rice, they don't get
>> it
>> often but when they don't feel well its an easy to digest form of
>> calories
>> while taking pills... if they aren't fresh enough, just throw the rice in
>> the pot with the meat, Lee
>
> It's all brown rice, still in it's original bags... I'm not even sure
> who bought it and why.
> --
> Peace, Om
> Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
>
> "Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have
> come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first."
> -- Mark Twain

what i would really like is a ground cover we wouldn't have to mow, Lee


"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> "Storrmmee" > wrote:
>
>> if i could grow anything i would be there trying it with you, right now i
>> am
>> researching herbs in pots after the tread i started here, ginger is on
>> the
>> list, so maybe if i ever get my nerve up, i really hate killing things,
>> Lee
>
> Ginger being a rhizome is likely one of the more forgiving ones.
> --
> Peace, Om
> Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
>
> "Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have
> come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first."
> -- Mark Twain

On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:49:30 -0400, James Silverton
> wrote:

> All the others mentioned
> seem to have unreasonable demands like water tho' chives do quite well.

Chive work? Great! I'll plant some in that case.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:16:46 -0500, "Storrmmee"
> wrote:

> what i would really like is a ground cover we wouldn't have to mow, Lee

What do you consider an acceptable ground cover height? My
grandmother had an area with deep shade where she used Pachysandra,
but it's pretty tall. Nice flowers too.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

On 6/15/2011 4:59 PM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:16:46 -0500, "Storrmmee"
> > wrote:
>
>> what i would really like is a ground cover we wouldn't have to mow, Lee
>
> What do you consider an acceptable ground cover height? My
> grandmother had an area with deep shade where she used Pachysandra,
> but it's pretty tall. Nice flowers too.
>
Boring flowers and you don't eat it.

--


James Silverton, Potomac

I'm *not*

On 6/15/2011 2:59 PM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:16:46 -0500, "Storrmmee"
> > wrote:
>
>> what i would really like is a ground cover we wouldn't have to mow, Lee
>
> What do you consider an acceptable ground cover height? My
> grandmother had an area with deep shade where she used Pachysandra,
> but it's pretty tall. Nice flowers too.
>


Go to a local garden center and ask what they have and recommend.
What growns in the sun in Florida won't necessarily grow in
the shade in Wisconsin.

Things like creeping thyme, mosses, etc. grow very flat to the ground.

gloria p

On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 19:35:36 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

> Do you mince it or dry and powder it? I've never planted prostrate
> rosemary before, just the taller stuff. I'm hoping this will prove more
> hardy. I've had trouble keeping the regular stuff alive here.
> --

If it can stay alive along freeways and on untended vegetation that
cascades over rock walls, you're in business! Sorry you had trouble
with the one with longer needles, because it's easier to use and I
think it tastes better, but that could be delusional on my part.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 19:42:14 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

> I sent you garlic chive seeds luv. :-)

That's right, you did! I'll look for them, I have a planter box for
vegetables (as of Mother's Day) now.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 18:03:19 -0400, James Silverton
> wrote:

> Boring flowers and you don't eat it.

So what? She said ground cover. I could suggest an herb or two, but
she wasn't specific about what kind of ground cover and if it needed
to be edible. I don't know her growing conditions either. Remember,
she killed an air plant.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 19:41:26 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

>
> English Ivy comes to mind...

Oh god no... that stuff is the bane of my life (harbors rodents and
almost impossible to kill). Ivy and blackberry vines.... ugh.
>
> Creeping Thyme comes to mind of you want an aromatic one with low water
> requirements.

That's a much better choice (IMO) and something I had in mind to
suggest if her response merited it.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

requirements a that is if i can find such a thing.
-covers ground eliminating need for grass.
-short enough to keep next door forom thinking i should mow.
-needs as little care as possible.
-doesn't take over next door's yard as he is a yard manicurist.

honestly a half inch to about three probably would do, as long as its green
i am good...

Lee
"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:16:46 -0500, "Storrmmee"
> > wrote:
>
>> what i would really like is a ground cover we wouldn't have to mow, Lee
>
> What do you consider an acceptable ground cover height? My
> grandmother had an area with deep shade where she used Pachysandra,
> but it's pretty tall. Nice flowers too.
>
> --
>
> Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

not needed to be edible, in fact with what you guys have described, most
anything edible seems to be a potential hazard for next door.

Lee
"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 18:03:19 -0400, James Silverton
> > wrote:
>
>> Boring flowers and you don't eat it.
>
> So what? She said ground cover. I could suggest an herb or two, but
> she wasn't specific about what kind of ground cover and if it needed
> to be edible. I don't know her growing conditions either. Remember,
> she killed an air plant.
>
> --
>
> Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

not mowing or tending is the big deal, too lazy and too plantkilling to try
and do regular yard, Lee
"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> "Storrmmee" > wrote:
>
>> what i would really like is a ground cover we wouldn't have to mow, Lee
>
> English Ivy comes to mind...
> Around here, most city and building landscaping uses Vinca Minor. A
> type of creeping myrtle. There are LOTS of low growing ground covers.
> Lawns don't have to rule. :-) Patches and circles of low growing ground
> cover with gravel paths around them are very attractive.
>
> Creeping Thyme comes to mind of you want an aromatic one with low water
> requirements.
> --
> Peace, Om
> Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
>
> "Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have
> come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first."
> -- Mark Twain

good point, Lee
"gloria.p" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/15/2011 2:59 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:16:46 -0500, "Storrmmee"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> what i would really like is a ground cover we wouldn't have to mow, Lee
>>
>> What do you consider an acceptable ground cover height? My
>> grandmother had an area with deep shade where she used Pachysandra,
>> but it's pretty tall. Nice flowers too.
>>
>
>
> Go to a local garden center and ask what they have and recommend.
> What growns in the sun in Florida won't necessarily grow in
> the shade in Wisconsin.
>
> Things like creeping thyme, mosses, etc. grow very flat to the ground.
>
> gloria p

Omelet > wrote:

>In article >,
> sf > wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:49:30 -0400, James Silverton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > All the others mentioned
>> > seem to have unreasonable demands like water tho' chives do quite well.
>>
>> Chive work? Great! I'll plant some in that case.
>
>I sent you garlic chive seeds luv. :-)

If you ever get any bugs on yours could you send me the bugs? Garlic
chive is *by far* the most pernicious weed on my property.

I've fought it for 20 years and made no headway.

Jim

On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 05:44:27 -0500, "Storrmmee"
> wrote:

>requirements a that is if i can find such a thing.
>-covers ground eliminating need for grass.
>-short enough to keep next door forom thinking i should mow.
>-needs as little care as possible.
>-doesn't take over next door's yard as he is a yard manicurist.
>
>honestly a half inch to about three probably would do, as long as its green
>i am good...
>

Your best bet is taking a few soil samples & asking at a local garden
center, horticultural society, or co-operative extension. I'd
give the extension office a call and ask about garden clubs in your
area. Even if it is a rose club, some member is sure to have played
around with ground covers in your neck of the woods.

A sketch with what gets shaded through the day will help them make
suggestions.

There are loads of choices- but each one has its own needs.

Jim

i meant to tell you earlier,... about the white board, what i did was make
the list in the computer, print and put on frig, so when dh was preparing to
cook he could make selections based on frig contents and the list without
going to the garage, he would make notes on paper as he went, when it was
time for shopping one of us would update list before starting to make up
list... Lee


"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> "Storrmmee" > wrote:
>
>> to be clear my comment wasn't directed at him. brown rice should be
>> fine,
>> not even sure you should take it out and repackage...
>>
>> Lee
>
> No, it's still in the freezer. I was considering taking the entire bag,
> as is, and vac packing it and placing it in the pantry instead of taking
> up freezer space, altho' I have that to spare now. <g>
> --
> Peace, Om
> Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
>
> "Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have
> come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first."
> -- Mark Twain

another good idea, Lee
"Jim Elbrecht" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 05:44:27 -0500, "Storrmmee"
> > wrote:
>
>>requirements a that is if i can find such a thing.
>>-covers ground eliminating need for grass.
>>-short enough to keep next door forom thinking i should mow.
>>-needs as little care as possible.
>>-doesn't take over next door's yard as he is a yard manicurist.
>>
>>honestly a half inch to about three probably would do, as long as its
>>green
>>i am good...
>>
>
> Your best bet is taking a few soil samples & asking at a local garden
> center, horticultural society, or co-operative extension. I'd
> give the extension office a call and ask about garden clubs in your
> area. Even if it is a rose club, some member is sure to have played
> around with ground covers in your neck of the woods.
>
> A sketch with what gets shaded through the day will help them make
> suggestions.
>
> There are loads of choices- but each one has its own needs.
>
> Jim

On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 05:44:27 -0500, "Storrmmee"
> wrote:

> honestly a half inch to about three probably would do, as long as its green
> i am good...

That's everybody's dream.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

On Jun 16, 6:44*am, "Storrmmee" > wrote:
> requirements a that is if i can find such a thing.
> -covers ground eliminating need for grass.
> -short enough to keep next door forom thinking i should mow.
> -needs as little care as possible.
> -doesn't take over next door's yard as he is a yard manicurist.
>
> honestly a half inch to about three probably would do, as long as its green
> i am good...
> > On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:16:46 -0500, "Storrmmee"
Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

Green gravel. .

we have considered green asfalt, lol, Lee
"Kalmia" > wrote in message
...
On Jun 16, 6:44 am, "Storrmmee" > wrote:
> requirements a that is if i can find such a thing.
> -covers ground eliminating need for grass.
> -short enough to keep next door forom thinking i should mow.
> -needs as little care as possible.
> -doesn't take over next door's yard as he is a yard manicurist.
>
> honestly a half inch to about three probably would do, as long as its
> green
> i am good...
> > On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:16:46 -0500, "Storrmmee"
Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

Green gravel. .

Omelet > wrote:

>In article >,
> Jim Elbrecht > wrote:
>
>> Omelet > wrote:
>>
>> >In article >,
>> > sf > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:49:30 -0400, James Silverton
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > All the others mentioned
>> >> > seem to have unreasonable demands like water tho' chives do quite well.
>> >>
>> >> Chive work? Great! I'll plant some in that case.
>> >
>> >I sent you garlic chive seeds luv. :-)
>>
>> If you ever get any bugs on yours could you send me the bugs? Garlic
>> chive is *by far* the most pernicious weed on my property.
>>
>> I've fought it for 20 years and made no headway.
>>
>> Jim
>
><lol> It stays in one area. :-) Just don't water where you don't want
>it, altho' it requires little water...

We must not be talking about the same thing. The garlic chives that
I consider a noxious weed is "Alliaria petiolata" which a bit of
googling tells me is more commonly known as Garlic Mustard---

Phew--- the garlic chives you're sharing must be the Allium, they
are mostly [all?] well behaved.

Jim

On 16/06/2011 3:06 PM, Jim Elbrecht wrote:

>
> We must not be talking about the same thing. The garlic chives that
> I consider a noxious weed is "Alliaria petiolata" which a bit of
> googling tells me is more commonly known as Garlic Mustard--

I just took a break from weeding, and I was pulling a lot of garlic
mustard. It is a very invasive weed. It seems to especially like
conditions under my cedar trees. If they would stay far enough under
that I didn`t see them I would not bother with them. If I don`t wage war
on them them come in increasing numbers.

On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:54:27 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 16/06/2011 3:06 PM, Jim Elbrecht wrote:
>
>>
>> We must not be talking about the same thing. The garlic chives that
>> I consider a noxious weed is "Alliaria petiolata" which a bit of
>> googling tells me is more commonly known as Garlic Mustard--
>
>I just took a break from weeding, and I was pulling a lot of garlic
>mustard. It is a very invasive weed. It seems to especially like
>conditions under my cedar trees. If they would stay far enough under
>that I didn`t see them I would not bother with them. If I don`t wage war
>on them them come in increasing numbers.

Left to its own, on my property it likes deep woods, partial shade,
full sun, sand, loam, clay, wet, dry, poor, and rich soil. It also
seems to only need about 10 days for a single plant to send off enough
seeds to plant a whole acre.

Hopefully Cornell [or someone] will come up with a beetle as efficient
as the one that beat Purple Loosestrife back into submission.


And- sort of back to the original subject. My wild Ginger has taken
hold well enough that I was about to start using it in the kitchen. I
Googled to see if I could use the seeds for something as I have a
bunch. Turns out the entire plant has more Aristolochic Acid than
many folks think is safe. So beyond a taste to confirm that I really
*do* want to use it-- I won't be playing with it much until I check
some more sources.

Jim

Omelet > wrote:
> In article >,
> Dave Smith > wrote:
>
>> On 16/06/2011 3:06 PM, Jim Elbrecht wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> We must not be talking about the same thing. The garlic chives that
>>> I consider a noxious weed is "Alliaria petiolata" which a bit of
>>> googling tells me is more commonly known as Garlic Mustard--
>>
>> I just took a break from weeding, and I was pulling a lot of garlic
>> mustard. It is a very invasive weed. It seems to especially like
>> conditions under my cedar trees. If they would stay far enough under
>> that I didn`t see them I would not bother with them. If I don`t wage war
>> on them them come in increasing numbers.
>
> I doubt seriously it is the same plant...
>
> My most invasive weed is wild morning glory (bindweed). It can take
> over the yard but will only do so under very wet conditions. They are
> not happy this year and I'm considering taking pity on them and planting
> and watering a pot of them (I have seeds put away) but I've found that
> the numerous seeds that are already in the soil will happily stay
> dormant for a year or two then sprout and take over if a rainy season
> begins, so I'm not terribly worried... There is also a pic of them in
> the Picasa (nature pics) album.
>
> When they get going, they drop thousands of seeds.... and every single
> one of them sprouts given a wet chance. <g>
>
> It is, however, a beautiful plant until it dies back every winter. Then
> you have to clear the dead vines if you care about yard looks. I note
> in a wet year here they take over half the town but only beautify it
> while they live...
>
> I have a love/hate relationship with them. ;-)
>
> I have pics of them in the front yard from last fall when it was very
> wet. My front yard, unattended, looked like a little rain forest. It
> was beautiful and wild and I enjoyed it! I have not posted the pics yet
> but will eventually. I love it when nature does my landscaping for me.
> It's a lot less costly!

Mint is a weed that can take years to eradicate. Plant mint in pots only!

--
Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 21:32:59 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:
snip
>
>My most invasive weed is wild morning glory (bindweed). It can take
>over the yard but will only do so under very wet conditions. They are
>not happy this year and I'm considering taking pity on them and planting
>and watering a pot of them (I have seeds put away) but I've found that
>the numerous seeds that are already in the soil will happily stay
>dormant for a year or two then sprout and take over if a rainy season
>begins, so I'm not terribly worried... There is also a pic of them in
>the Picasa (nature pics) album.
I don't believe the part about wet conditions. We don't do wet around
here (generally) from May through September and I have seen it
flourishing mightily in vacant lots, heaped around utility poles etc.
But mostly it hides out under my lavender. It's currently being
shouldered out by wild blackberry. Nuts!
Janet US

On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 06:42:56 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
> wrote:

snip

>Mint is a weed that can take years to eradicate. Plant mint in pots only!

Agreed, however, traditional mint is not the enemy around here but its
cousin is -- oregano.
Janet US

On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 07:01:31 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

>On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 06:42:56 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
> wrote:
>
>snip
>
>>Mint is a weed that can take years to eradicate. Plant mint in pots only!
>
>Agreed, however, traditional mint is not the enemy around here but its
>cousin is -- oregano.
>Janet US

I do almost the herbs in pots. Not only does it prevent invasion, but
I can bring some into the kitchen to overwinter in a sunny location
and I have a fresh supply most of the year.

I confess to letting the dill run wild outside. I like it.

Boron

On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 18:25:04 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:
snip

>
>Hence my plans to plant catmint in a large pot, and have done so. <g>
I think the seeds must be wind driven because I have clumps far apart
(6 feet) and that is too far for roots.
Janet US

On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 18:26:28 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

>In article >,
> Janet Bostwick > wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 21:32:59 -0500, Omelet >
>> wrote:
>> snip
>> >
>> >My most invasive weed is wild morning glory (bindweed). It can take
>> >over the yard but will only do so under very wet conditions. They are
>> >not happy this year and I'm considering taking pity on them and planting
>> >and watering a pot of them (I have seeds put away) but I've found that
>> >the numerous seeds that are already in the soil will happily stay
>> >dormant for a year or two then sprout and take over if a rainy season
>> >begins, so I'm not terribly worried... There is also a pic of them in
>> >the Picasa (nature pics) album.
>> I don't believe the part about wet conditions. We don't do wet around
>> here (generally) from May through September and I have seen it
>> flourishing mightily in vacant lots, heaped around utility poles etc.
>> But mostly it hides out under my lavender. It's currently being
>> shouldered out by wild blackberry. Nuts!
>> Janet US
>
>Ok, so yours is tougher than mine! <g> What has come up this year has
>all died on it's own. We are supposed to get thunderstorms Tues. We
>will see what happens!
That's why they are weeds, they adapt to given conditions. Probably
likes Siberia.
Janet US

On 16/06/2011 10:32 PM, Omelet wrote:

>>
>> I just took a break from weeding, and I was pulling a lot of garlic
>> mustard. It is a very invasive weed. It seems to especially like
>> conditions under my cedar trees. If they would stay far enough under
>> that I didn`t see them I would not bother with them. If I don`t wage war
>> on them them come in increasing numbers.
>
> I doubt seriously it is the same plant...

Same as??? A friend of ours who knows her plants and weeds identified it
as garlic mustard, and I googled it and the pictures I found were a
perfect match.

>
> My most invasive weed is wild morning glory (bindweed). It can take
> over the yard but will only do so under very wet conditions. They are
> not happy this year and I'm considering taking pity on them and planting
> and watering a pot of them (I have seeds put away) but I've found that
> the numerous seeds that are already in the soil will happily stay
> dormant for a year or two then sprout and take over if a rainy season
> begins, so I'm not terribly worried... There is also a pic of them in
> the Picasa (nature pics) album.


Many years ago I planted morning glory and they never did well thrived
where they were planted, but the next year they were everywhere. I went
after them with a passion for years. They are now down to manageable
numbers. I thought that I was getting the few remainders young enough
that there would not be any flowers and therefore no seeds.
>
> When they get going, they drop thousands of seeds.... and every single
> one of them sprouts given a wet chance.<g>
>
> It is, however, a beautiful plant until it dies back every winter. Then
> you have to clear the dead vines if you care about yard looks. I note
> in a wet year here they take over half the town but only beautify it
> while they live...
>
> I have a love/hate relationship with them. ;-)
>
> I have pics of them in the front yard from last fall when it was very
> wet. My front yard, unattended, looked like a little rain forest. It
> was beautiful and wild and I enjoyed it! I have not posted the pics yet
> but will eventually. I love it when nature does my landscaping for me.
> It's a lot less costly!

On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:43:26 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

>On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 18:25:04 -0500, Omelet >
>wrote:
>snip
>
>>
>>Hence my plans to plant catmint in a large pot, and have done so. <g>
>I think the seeds must be wind driven because I have clumps far apart
>(6 feet) and that is too far for roots.

For sure. I don't find catnip to be intrusive at all. I usually
have a 1/2 dozen plants scattered around wherever they pop up. i
don't do anything with them unless someone comes who has a cat. [our
current cat doesn't care for it] They seed themselves, the birds
scatter the seed-- and if it is in a border or bed I'm not likely to
weed them out.

Jim

On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 03:12:28 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

>In article >,
> Janet Bostwick > wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 18:26:28 -0500, Omelet >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article >,
>> > Janet Bostwick > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 21:32:59 -0500, Omelet >
>> >> wrote:
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>We've been having a record heat wave and drought...

that would be similar to our normal weather. Instead of highs near or
over 100 we are trying to reach for 70. Weather is certainly messing
up crops this year. The herbs don't seem to mind much, grasses are
going great guns, lettuce too. The other stuff just isn't happy. I'm
going to test the garden soil this morning and see if it has reached
60 yet so that it is safe to plant beans. Food is going to be very
costly for the next couple of years because of the bad weather year.
Janet US

Great tips regarding dinner,..
I appreciate you all sharing such a useful ideas about dinner foods,..

Sycophant wrote:

> I was hoping it'd be wet enough to do moonflowers this year.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/show...Number/6205232

"Moonflower seeds - The Psychedelic Experience"

Show of hands: Who's surprised?

Bob, hands down