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On 15 Jun 2011 00:35:46 GMT, notbob > wrote:

> I think the question should be, how did it happen that so
> many queries get correctly redirected FROM recfoodcooking.com.


Actually *my* question was about why I had .com book marked and now
it's .org.

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Sky > wrote:

> On 6/14/2011 4:02 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:23:14 -0500, >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Has something happened to the RFC website? It does not look familiar at
> >> all!
> >>

> > Are you getting anything, sky? My screen was blank. Maybe her
> > servers are out again.
> >

>
> Somehow, the RFC shortcut on FF got changed to '.com'! I haven't a clue
> how that happened. RFC ---> http://www.recfoodcooking.org <--- works
> just fine. Sorry 'bout that!
>
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What is FF?

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On 2011-06-15, Melba's Jammin' > wrote:

> What is FF?


Firefox. It's a free 3rd party browser:

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/new/

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On 15/06/2011 12:05 PM, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In >,
> > wrote:
>
>> On 6/14/2011 4:02 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:23:14 -0500, >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Has something happened to the RFC website? It does not look familiar at
>>>> all!
>>>>
>>> Are you getting anything, sky? My screen was blank. Maybe her
>>> servers are out again.
>>>

>>
>> Somehow, the RFC shortcut on FF got changed to '.com'! I haven't a clue
>> how that happened. RFC ---> http://www.recfoodcooking.org<--- works
>> just fine. Sorry 'bout that!
>>
>> Sky

>
> What is FF?
>

FF = FireFox, the decent browser alternative to that Micro$oft product.

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On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 21:33:31 -0500, Sqwertz >
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>On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:23:14 -0500, Sky wrote:
>
>> Has something happened to the RFC website? It does not look familiar at
>> all!
>>
>> Sky

>
>The RFC.com site has been Hijacked VIA DNS. Cathy will be along soon.
>She knows the credientials of the account.
>
>Stop fretting and speculating. It IS down.


Thank Gawd. I was afraid I wasn't going to be able to sleep tonight.

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> On 15 Jun 2011 00:35:46 GMT, notbob > wrote:
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>> I think the question should be, how did it happen that so
>> many queries get correctly redirected FROM recfoodcooking.com.

>
> Actually *my* question was about why I had .com book marked and now
> it's .org.
>
> --
>
> Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.



IIRC, both the .org and .com sites were true rfc sites, apparently now they
have let the .com one go. Just hope nobody completely incompatible with
what this group is, picks it up and does something we wouldn't really like
with it.

Boli


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Christine Dabney > wrote:

> No, it used to be .com..all this time. That was how it was
> bookmarked.


It was .org from the get-go, i.e. ever since John Robinson (Levelwave)
registered the domain in 2003, taking over the rfc part of Damsel's
Edible Complex site.

John paid for the registration out of his own pocket; the renewal fee
was paid by a few rfc donors, IIRC.

The .com part was added by Cathy when she took over the .org domain.
The registration for both the .org and the .com domains has been paid by
Cathy out of her own pocket ever since.

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On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 22:56:38 -0400, "bolivar" >
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> IIRC, both the .org and .com sites were true rfc sites, apparently now they
> have let the .com one go.


I'm not asking you to second guess, just wondering out loud... I
wonder why they would keep org and not com? Com is automatic with me,
and I have to think about org. Usually nonprofits have that
extension. Is it less expensive to rent?

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On 6/14/2011 4:02 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> Sky wrote:
>> Has something happened to the RFC website? It does not look familiar
>> at all!

>
> Wow. I was missing the surveys and now I'm missing the whole website.
>
> nancy


I just went there. It's gone! Blank screen

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On 6/14/2011 5:43 PM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 14:30:59 -0700, Christine Dabney
> > wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 14:02:58 -0700, > wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:23:14 -0500, >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Has something happened to the RFC website? It does not look familiar at
>>>> all!
>>>>
>>> Are you getting anything, sky? My screen was blank. Maybe her
>>> servers are out again.

>>
>> Mine wasn't blank, but it is a totally different website. Not related
>> to rfc at all.
>>

> I guess you're seeing what sky is seeing. I see nothing but white,
> not even a sidebar like nb seems to see.
>
>

That's what I see, too.

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On 6/14/2011 5:43 PM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 14:30:59 -0700, Christine Dabney
> > wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 14:02:58 -0700, > wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:23:14 -0500, >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Has something happened to the RFC website? It does not look familiar at
>>>> all!
>>>>
>>> Are you getting anything, sky? My screen was blank. Maybe her
>>> servers are out again.

>>
>> Mine wasn't blank, but it is a totally different website. Not related
>> to rfc at all.
>>

> I guess you're seeing what sky is seeing. I see nothing but white,
> not even a sidebar like nb seems to see.
>
>


I got a blank screen with Firefox, but when I went on with Chrome, there
was a totally foreign looking site calling itself "Recfoodcooking" with
lots of links, none of which I followed.

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On 6/14/2011 5:56 PM, Dora wrote:
> heyjoe wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:23:14 -0500, Sky wrote:
>>
>>> Has something happened to the RFC website? It does not look
>>> familiar at all!

>>
>> Which one is the RFC website?
>> <http://www.recfoodcooking.com/>
>> <http://208.73.210.48/>
>> or
>> <http://www.recfoodcooking.org/>
>> http://196.41.3.188/

>
> recfoodcooking.org brings up the RFC site.
>
> Dora


Thanks, Dora that did it. I wonder when it changed fro dot com to dot org?

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On 6/14/2011 8:43 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2011-06-15, > wrote:
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>> Not really a mystery. When you register both .com and .org, you have to
>> pay for both. Maybe she only renewed the .org one. Some people buy all
>> options including .net to avoid confusion.

>
> I think you nailed it.


Which begs the question why didn't she poll the group to renew both if
people have offered to help pay for it?

*If* that's what happened.
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:23:14 -0500, Sky wrote:

> Has something happened to the RFC website? It does not look familiar at
> all!
>
> Sky


It's up again. We didn't remember to make the annual renewal payment for
the .com domain in time (the .org domain renewal was only due later this
month) so the domain registrar we use "cut us off" <grin> Have just done
the renewals for both, so no worries for another year ;-)

Thanks to all for the many offers to help with the payments but it's
really not necessary; it actually costs peanuts (that's the OBFood
part)for the domain registration(s)and Jack hosts it on one of own servers.

As for the surveys - if anybody has any in mind, I am only to happy to put
them up; I just ran out of ideas myself... The webmaster (at)
recfoodcooking (dot) com address will now work again too.

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On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 17:11:38 -0700, sf wrote:

> On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:34:43 -0700, Christine Dabney
> > wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:30:09 -0700, sf > wrote:
>>
>>
>> >Are you using FF too?

>>
>> Yes, but this is true of any browser I use. It is not related to FF. I
>> tried it in all the browsers I have on my computer. Not just FF. It is
>> as Serene suggested..now a place holder site.
>>

> I'll believe you and serene. I'm not familiar with that term so I'm
> still wondering about the switch from .com to .org.


When the site was originally put up many years ago it was only registered
under the .org address. When we took it over we thought we might as well
register the .com address too - as a lot of people are more familiar with
that naming convention for domains. Anyway, they both point to the same
site so whichever one you prefer to use ends up in the same place (if I
remember to pay for them in time, that is) <laugh>.

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On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 22:56:38 -0400, bolivar wrote:

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>
> IIRC, both the .org and .com sites were true rfc sites, apparently now they
> have let the .com one go. Just hope nobody completely incompatible with
> what this group is, picks it up and does something we wouldn't really like
> with it.


Well, as I said in my post to Sky I just renewed it again - so what
wouldn't you like me to do with it? <evil grin>

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"ChattyCathy" > ha scritto nel messaggio

I thought of you yesterday. One of the chefs I "know" on Facebook is
starting a new page on African food, from the Cape to the Med. Nothing on
it yet, but it ought to get interesting.


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Dave Smith wrote:
> On 14/06/2011 7:34 PM, Christine Dabney wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:30:09 -0700, > wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Are you using FF too?

>>
>> Yes, but this is true of any browser I use. It is not related to FF. I
>> tried it in all the browsers I have on my computer. Not just FF. It
>> is as Serene suggested..now a place holder site.
>>

>
>
> We are going to have to keep an eye on this. I deleted the old bookmark
> in and bookmarked the ,org site in IE and in Firefox I was able to edit
> the bookmark to the ,org site. It will be interesting to see what
> happens if it changes again. Who do we complain to when a site gets into
> our system and changes our bookmarks?


A site cannot get into your system and change your bookmarks.

What probably happened was that some maintenance team moved the site
over to another server for load balancing purposes, and the DNS info
took a while to propagate.

When you do something like that, the DNS record gets changed by hand on
the home DNS server. It then gets changed on every other server
worldwide. This global change happens automatically, and is based on
aging rules the systems administrator has set up on his DNS server.

Every DNS server is different, and has different rules.

The condition is aggravated by the fact that usually, different elements
on a webpage reside on different servers. So everyone will experience
different items missing, at different times.

Almost every one of you is using a different DNS server, so you will get
different results, until the thing stabilizes.

It sometimes can take several days for the change to propagate.

BTW: I never saw the placeholder. I got a blank page with a sidebar.

The Chaotic Kitchen welcome screen didn't arrive until this morning.
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On 2011-06-15, ChattyCathy > wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 04:42:13 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:


>> What's to keep them from jacking up the prices yearly and holding your
>> established domain hostage?


> I think they're sort of doing that already......


This is domain name hijacking. Some compaies are known to do this and
warehouse the names for resale. Another rip-off was hosting providers
would check to see if a domain name you submitted was available, then
register that name themselves and claim it was taken. It got pretty
slimey, there, for awhile, one of the well known hosting providers
being accused. Then there's reverse hijacking, an old M$ and Apple
Inc trick. You can google for details.

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On 6/14/2011 11:42 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:28:51 +0200, ChattyCathy wrote:
>
>> It's up again. We didn't remember to make the annual renewal payment for
>> the .com domain in time (the .org domain renewal was only due later this
>> month) so the domain registrar we use "cut us off"<grin> Have just done
>> the renewals for both, so no worries for another year ;-)

>
> You used to be able to renew those things for 4-5 years at a time.
> I've looked into it and it doesn't seem anyone allows that any more.
> They don't want to lock you in since that might forfeit the right to
> screw you next year.
>
> What's to keep them from jacking up the prices yearly and holding your
> established domain hostage?
>
> -sw


I get solicitations every week from my domain registration service to
renew a domain that I let lapse. They'll offer the domain for 10 or 15%
discount. There's a limit to how much they can charge because I can
always go through another service to register the domain.

Of course, since the registration for recfoodcooking.com lapsed, anybody
could have bought or "hijacked" the domain. OTOH, you're not going to be
able to get much dough by doing this.

If you were a bad person, you could try hijacking the domains of your
business competitors by keeping tabs on when their domains expire in
hopes that they'll forget to re-new and then put your own site up
instead. That would be pretty nasty. :-)


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> Thanks to all for the many offers to help with the payments but it's
> really not necessary; it actually costs peanuts (that's the OBFood
> part)for the domain registration(s)and Jack hosts it on one of own
> servers.


Thanks again for that, I know everyone appreciates it.

> As for the surveys - if anybody has any in mind, I am only to happy
> to put them up; I just ran out of ideas myself... The webmaster (at)
> recfoodcooking (dot) com address will now work again too.


I know you post surveys when you get a subject, and if I want to
see one, I should submit one. Heh. I've been thinking lately I have
missed them so it was disturbing to see the whole website hijacked.

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On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 12:20:27 +0200, Giusi wrote:


> "ChattyCathy" > ha scritto nel messaggio
>
> I thought of you yesterday. One of the chefs I "know" on Facebook is
> starting a new page on African food, from the Cape to the Med. Nothing
> on it yet, but it ought to get interesting.


Pity I don't do FB <evil grin> because websites/blogs on gen-u-wine South
African food appear to be few and far between. Most of them are just there
to advertise cookbooks/recipe collection CDs that one has to pay for.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not averse to paying for cookbooks/recipe
collections, but when I'm having an 'all out of ideas' day and just want
to surf the 'net quickly for something that looks interesting it's hard to
find local recipes I haven't already tried. Heh, I usually end up trying
something from other parts of the world - which often means having to
substitute certain ingredients that are not available locally.

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On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 05:35:20 -0500, Shawn Martin
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> BTW: I never saw the placeholder. I got a blank page with a sidebar.


I didn't even have a sidebar. It was completely blank. Any idea why
I didn't see anything and others did?

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On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 12:20:27 +0200, "Giusi" >
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> Cape to the Med.


I was trying to remember yesterday which continent was Cape and which
one was Horn, but my query wasn't worded well enough for Google to
guess what I wanted.

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"ChattyCathy" > ha scritto nel messaggio

> Pity I don't do FB <evil grin> because websites/blogs on gen-u-wine South
> African food appear to be few and far between.


Here is a page that belongs to a girl, and so far no one has tried to sell
me anything on FB except ideas. Which I didn't buy there, either.
http://www.facebook.com/kadirecipesP...esPage?sk=wall




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On 6/15/2011 5:20 AM, Giusi wrote:
> > ha scritto nel messaggio
>
> I thought of you yesterday. One of the chefs I "know" on Facebook is
> starting a new page on African food, from the Cape to the Med. Nothing on
> it yet, but it ought to get interesting.


You can find some good recipes on Facebook. Yesterday, I found a key
lime pie recipe that I might try.

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sf wrote:
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>>Cape to the Med.

>
>I was trying to remember yesterday which continent was Cape and which
>one was Horn, but my query wasn't worded well enough for Google to
>guess what I wanted.


Don't blame Google... it's because you don't know that one is The Cape
of Good Hope (Africa) and one is Cape Horn (South America).

I don't see how a cook book can include foods of all Africa, perhaps
warty melon!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watermelon
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On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 07:32:54 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:

> ChattyCathy wrote:
>
>> Thanks to all for the many offers to help with the payments but it's
>> really not necessary; it actually costs peanuts (that's the OBFood
>> part)for the domain registration(s)and Jack hosts it on one of own
>> servers.

>
> Thanks again for that, I know everyone appreciates it.
>
>> As for the surveys - if anybody has any in mind, I am only to happy to
>> put them up; I just ran out of ideas myself... The webmaster (at)
>> recfoodcooking (dot) com address will now work again too.

>
> I know you post surveys when you get a subject, and if I want to see
> one, I should submit one. Heh.


Nah. It's probably just one of those "I should submit this idea" thoughts
that flashes through your mind and then gets promptly forgotten <laugh>
However, all ideas are indeed welcome.

> I've been thinking lately I have
> missed them so it was disturbing to see the whole website hijacked.


More like "held for ransom" by the domain registrar concerned <g>. My own
fault entirely - as they do send us email reminders to renew - but life
has been rather hectic here lately and I just put it on the round-tuit
list... and by the time I did get a round-tuit, the credit card we use for
on-line payment purposes had expired which meant we had to make time to
pick up the new card from the bank, so it got put it on hold again... ya
know how these things go. But anyway, as they say, it turned out OK in the
end.

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In article > ,
Krypsis > wrote:

> On 15/06/2011 12:05 PM, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> > In >,
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> On 6/14/2011 4:02 PM, sf wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:23:14 -0500, >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Has something happened to the RFC website? It does not look familiar at
> >>>> all!
> >>>>
> >>> Are you getting anything, sky? My screen was blank. Maybe her
> >>> servers are out again.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Somehow, the RFC shortcut on FF got changed to '.com'! I haven't a clue
> >> how that happened. RFC ---> http://www.recfoodcooking.org<--- works
> >> just fine. Sorry 'bout that!
> >>
> >> Sky

> >
> > What is FF?
> >

> FF = FireFox, the decent browser alternative to that Micro$oft product.
>
> Krypsis


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On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:18:24 +0200, "Giusi" >
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> "ChattyCathy" > ha scritto nel messaggio
>
> > Pity I don't do FB <evil grin> because websites/blogs on gen-u-wine South
> > African food appear to be few and far between.

>
> Here is a page that belongs to a girl, and so far no one has tried to sell
> me anything on FB except ideas. Which I didn't buy there, either.
> http://www.facebook.com/kadirecipesP...esPage?sk=wall
>

I'm getting a time out when I try her blog, but Cathy can google
http://www.kadirecipes.com/ to see her recipe titles (at least).

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On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 07:28:35 -0500, Ema Nymton >
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> You can find some good recipes on Facebook. Yesterday, I found a key
> lime pie recipe that I might try.
>
> Becca


How did you FB for recipes, Becca? Do you just enter "recipes" in
your search box?


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On 6/15/2011 3:28 AM, ChattyCathy wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:23:14 -0500, Sky wrote:
>
>> Has something happened to the RFC website? It does not look familiar at
>> all!
>>
>> Sky

>
> It's up again. We didn't remember to make the annual renewal payment for
> the .com domain in time (the .org domain renewal was only due later this
> month) so the domain registrar we use "cut us off"<grin> Have just done
> the renewals for both, so no worries for another year ;-)
>
> Thanks to all for the many offers to help with the payments but it's
> really not necessary; it actually costs peanuts (that's the OBFood
> part)for the domain registration(s)and Jack hosts it on one of own servers.
>
> As for the surveys - if anybody has any in mind, I am only to happy to put
> them up; I just ran out of ideas myself... The webmaster (at)
> recfoodcooking (dot) com address will now work again too.
>


Good to know the RFC website(s) are live and well Thankfully, the
remedy was easy, eh! Thanks for all your efforts!

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On 6/15/2011 8:44 AM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 07:28:35 -0500, Ema >
> wrote:
>
>> You can find some good recipes on Facebook. Yesterday, I found a key
>> lime pie recipe that I might try.
>>
>> Becca

> How did you FB for recipes, Becca? Do you just enter "recipes" in
> your search box?


Some recipes come from my friends, and the other recipes are posted by
Brown-eyed Baker, Pioneer Woman, Foodista, etc.

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On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:14:15 -0500, Ema Nymton >
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>On 6/15/2011 8:44 AM, sf wrote:
>> On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 07:28:35 -0500, Ema >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You can find some good recipes on Facebook. Yesterday, I found a key
>>> lime pie recipe that I might try.
>>>
>>> Becca

>> How did you FB for recipes, Becca? Do you just enter "recipes" in
>> your search box?

>
>Some recipes come from my friends, and the other recipes are posted by
>Brown-eyed Baker, Pioneer Woman, Foodista, etc.
>
>Becca



Have you tried out Joe Pastry? No real recipes on FB, IIRC but you can
friend him there. The full web page is:

http://www.joepastry.com/

It is a favorite of mine.


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On Jun 15, 8:42*am, sf > wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:05:28 +0100, Janet > wrote:
> > In article >,
> > says...

>
> > > On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 12:20:27 +0200, "Giusi" >
> > > wrote:

>
> > > > *Cape to the Med.

>
> > > I was trying to remember yesterday which continent was Cape and which
> > > one was Horn, but my query wasn't worded well enough for Google to
> > > guess what I wanted.

>
> > * Africa has both a Cape and a Horn on one continent, but if you were
> > thinking of Cape Horn that's the S.American one :-)

>
> That's what I didn't know... I know if you go around one continent
> they say "around the Cape" and they say "around the horn" when you're
> going around the other one, but which is which? *I dunno and the place
> names down there don't help me. * *I'm guessing that the tip of
> South America is The Horn because it's shaped more like a horn than
> the tip of Africa.


Are you just retarded or what? You seem unable to research anything
for yourself. Did you get through your education in that way? Did
everyone else do your homework while you stood around flapping your
gums uselessly?
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On Jun 15, 7:30*am, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> sf wrote:
> "Giusi" wrote:
>
> >>Cape to the Med.

>
> >I was trying to remember yesterday which continent was Cape and which
> >one was Horn, but my query wasn't worded well enough for Google to
> >guess what I wanted.

>
> Don't blame Google... it's because you don't know that one is The Cape
> of Good Hope (Africa) and one is Cape Horn (South America).


She couldn't find her own arse with Google. She's a complete waste.
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On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 08:54:43 -0700 (PDT), projectile vomit chick
> wrote:

>On Jun 15, 8:42*am, sf > wrote:
>> On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:05:28 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>> > In article >,
>> > says...

>>
>> > > On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 12:20:27 +0200, "Giusi" >
>> > > wrote:

>>
>> > > > *Cape to the Med.

>>
>> > > I was trying to remember yesterday which continent was Cape and which
>> > > one was Horn, but my query wasn't worded well enough for Google to
>> > > guess what I wanted.

>>
>> > * Africa has both a Cape and a Horn on one continent, but if you were
>> > thinking of Cape Horn that's the S.American one :-)

>>
>> That's what I didn't know... I know if you go around one continent
>> they say "around the Cape" and they say "around the horn" when you're
>> going around the other one, but which is which? *I dunno and the place
>> names down there don't help me. * *I'm guessing that the tip of
>> South America is The Horn because it's shaped more like a horn than
>> the tip of Africa.

>
>Are you just retarded or what? You seem unable to research anything
>for yourself. Did you get through your education in that way? Did
>everyone else do your homework while you stood around flapping your
>gums uselessly?


She was a school teacher. How frightening is that?

Lou



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On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:14:15 -0500, Ema Nymton >
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> On 6/15/2011 8:44 AM, sf wrote:
> > On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 07:28:35 -0500, Ema >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> You can find some good recipes on Facebook. Yesterday, I found a key
> >> lime pie recipe that I might try.
> >>
> >> Becca

> > How did you FB for recipes, Becca? Do you just enter "recipes" in
> > your search box?

>
> Some recipes come from my friends, and the other recipes are posted by
> Brown-eyed Baker, Pioneer Woman, Foodista, etc.
>


Oh, okay thanks... I thought maybe you knew something I didn't know.



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On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:56:46 +0000, notbob wrote:

> On 2011-06-15, ChattyCathy > wrote:
>> On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 04:42:13 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

>
>>> What's to keep them from jacking up the prices yearly and holding your
>>> established domain hostage?

>
>> I think they're sort of doing that already......

>
> This is domain name hijacking. Some compaies are known to do this and
> warehouse the names for resale. Another rip-off was hosting providers
> would check to see if a domain name you submitted was available, then
> register that name themselves and claim it was taken. It got pretty
> slimey, there, for awhile, one of the well known hosting providers
> being accused. Then there's reverse hijacking, an old M$ and Apple
> Inc trick. You can google for details.
>

That's why you never use the registrar-provided check thingies to see if
something is available, until you have made the decision to register it.
Normally a 'dig whatever.com' is enough to see if someone already has it -
not completely sufficient, there are conditions where dig or even 'dig
whatever.com ns' fails, but the domain is still not available, but a lot
better than tipping a registrar off.

j

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