On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 20:11:57 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
.. .
>> On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 17:21:02 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"notbob" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On 2011-06-21, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> to NY but I kept one small lidded piece, makes great storage for left
>>>>> overs. About 12 ounces: http://i51.tinypic.com/2zzjcpe.jpg
>>>>
>>>> I had two Corning Grab-Its I gave to my daughter. Wish I'd kept 'em.
>>>> Jes saw 'em at True-Value ....$11 ea!... abot 25% higher than MSRP. I
>>>> bought the Corningware casserole set, instead, which was about 25%
>>>> cheaper than MSRP. Go figure.
>>>
>>>I have one of those. It's nice but I really don't use it any more.
>>>Forgot
>>>about it until you mentioned it.
>>
>> I use it for left overs at least once a week, usually for the last
>> slices of a roast, it's the perfect size for a meal for one... and I
>> have a definite aversion to the unnessesary use of plastic wrap but
>> have no aversion to hand washing dishes.
>
>We don't have a lot of leftovers.

I almost always have left overs... I hardly ever cook less than three
meals worth... I really don't like cooking every day, and since I'm
cooking anyway it's no biggie to choose a larger pot... cook enough
for the next day and then a couple three days worth for the freezer...
just the clean up time saved alone is worth it. I clean one pot and
you clean six... of course you mostly eat out, which is the real
reason some folks don't have left overs.

On Jun 21, 8:57*pm, Lee > wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:24:10 -0400, Jean B. wrote
> (in article >):
>
>
>
>
>
> > Dora wrote:
> >> Ophelia wrote:
>
> >>>>> <g> the best thing about the WORST kitchen hand me down, is that you
> >>>>> can toss it)
>
> >>>> Unless it has sentimental value, then you
> >>>> can't!
>
> >>> Things that are too big or just out of place, can always be
> >>> photographed. Surely it is the memories that matter, not the item?
>
> >> I'm thinking about a luncheon set for twelve that my mother was given as
> >> a wedding gift. *Although it was bone china she didn't care for the
> >> pattern and never used it.
> >> I inherited it; I didn't care for it either but couldn't bear to throw
> >> it awayt. *I gave it to my daughter-in-law - she loves it and has it on
> >> display. *Everybody's happy!
>
> > That's great, Dora. *I have a lot of heirlooms, and right now I'd
> > say my daughter is interested in little or none of the things. *My
> > nephew MAY be interested though. * *I MAY end up seeing whether
> > some museums are interested.
>
> Maybe you could sell your unwanted china to
>
> Replacement.LTDhttp://www.replacements.com/index.htm
>
> I doubt you would get the prices listed for replacement pieces but they have
> to be getting their merchandise from somewhere.
>
> In any case, you can get an idea of the value of your dishes/china.
>
> --
> Lee
> Park Ridge NJ
> rarebirdyatverizondotnet- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Their purchase prices are about 10% of what they sell them for (china)
- I have cream soup and saucer sets (2 pieces, the soup bowl has a
little handle on each side) - in my china pattern. They are asking
$107 for a set - I just bought some for $23 a set including shipping -
if the dude I bought them from had been able to get more from
Replacements, trust me, he would have sold them to Replacements.

N.

*And I
> eat off paper plates whenever possible; Sam's Club sells cases of
> 1,000 for about $9, and they are pretty good quality, even
> plasticised. *Paper plates cut way down on dish washing and are more
> sanitary... and at less than a penny per they are far cheaper than
> washing dishes. *Sandwiches, fruit, cheese, sausage, etc I eat

You aren't doing the environment any favors by using "plasticised"
paper products - use ones that are all paper with no coating, they are
much more biodegradable. They are also more expensive. I don't fault
you for using paper plates - I usually do, too, for the same reasons,
unless I have guests, of course. But I use the heavy Chinet ones
which are totally cardboard.

N.

ChattyCathy wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:46:11 -0700, projectile vomit chick wrote:
>
>> On Jun 21, 5:39 am, "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote:
>>> Visions cookware. The glass stuff from Corning about 25 years ago.
>>> When our daughter moved west, she left us her set. It ended up in
>>> the trash with the boiled potatoes still stuck to the bottom.
>> Ha! I remember those. They were just awful!
>
> I have to wonder why people find them so awful. I have a glass pot that
> has a "Vision Corning, France" stamp on the handle (with a 'lip' for
> pouring sauce or whatever) that I bought about 7 or 8 years ago - and I
> haven't had anything stick to it - and it's been very easy to clean. It
> wasn't expensive; IIRC, I only paid a couple of (US) bucks for it at a
> local store and I still use it a couple of times a week. FWIW, it didn't
> come with a lid.
>
I have one large covered deep saute pan by Visions/Corning. I use it for
particular stove top dishes and it serves me well. I don't hate it by
any stretch, although I don't use it often.

On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 10:53:28 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:

>*And I
>> eat off paper plates whenever possible; Sam's Club sells cases of
>> 1,000 for about $9, and they are pretty good quality, even
>> plasticised. *Paper plates cut way down on dish washing and are more
>> sanitary... and at less than a penny per they are far cheaper than
>> washing dishes. *Sandwiches, fruit, cheese, sausage, etc I eat
>
>You aren't doing the environment any favors by using "plasticised"
>paper products - use ones that are all paper with no coating, they are
>much more biodegradable. They are also more expensive. I don't fault
>you for using paper plates - I usually do, too, for the same reasons,
>unless I have guests, of course. But I use the heavy Chinet ones
>which are totally cardboard.

I buy the plain paper plates but occasionally when I get them home and
open the case I see they are coated... so I use both types... the
plain cartons don't say and I don't know the code, next time I will
open the box and check. The plasticized are very thinly coated on the
inside only, but I don't like that they don't absorb fat... I mostly
use those to feed cats, in fact I'll eat from them and still use them
for cat food, so they do double duty. Even with the plastic coating
those plates compost pretty quickly, whatever plastic they use it's
very biodegradeable... I use some in my garden to keep weeds from
growing around plants, they decompose in less than one growing season
from the sun's UV. I don't buy the fancy schmancy disposable plates,
for company I use my good dishes... I only use the cheapo paper plates
for me... saves time, labor, water/hot water, dishwashing liquid, my
septic system, my dishwasher, even my water softener. I don't see
anything wrong in using disposables, after all I bet most folks use
all sorts of disposables, people use paper napkins all the time except
for formal dinners... how many do you know who use cloth diapers
instead of disposables? Today everything is disposable, even PCs...
how many can remember the last time they sat down and wrote a real
snail mail, on real archiveable stationary, and with a real pen and
real ink, not some 19¢ disposable ball point on cruddy printer paper.
I still write with fountain pens.
A very small sample:
http://i56.tinypic.com/1tvaf8.jpg
My everyday writers:
http://i51.tinypic.com/10g06mt.jpg

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Visions cookware. The glass stuff from Corning about 25 years ago. When
> our daughter moved west, she left us her set. It ended up in the trash
> with the boiled potatoes still stuck to the bottom.

I wish I'd thought of that. We were given some terribly thin stainless
steel skillets and I scrubbed them clean before I put them in the trash.
When I hear somebody brag about a great deal on stainless steel skillets I
wonder if they're just buying/giving trouble. That's such a shabby trick to
lay on a new bride/cook. Polly

On Jun 21, 5:36*pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:46:11 -0700 (PDT), projectile vomit chick
>
> > wrote:
> >On Jun 21, 5:39*am, "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote:
> >> Visions cookware. *The glass stuff from Corning about 25 years ago. *When
> >> our daughter moved west, she left us her set. *It ended up in the trash with
> >> the boiled potatoes still stuck to the bottom.
>
> >Ha! *I remember those. *They were just awful!
>
> They've been around a long time... years ago someone gave me a set of
> Visions as a housewarming gift... I left them in CA when I moved back
> to NY but I kept one small lidded piece, makes great storage for left
> overs. *About 12 ounces:http://i51.tinypic.com/2zzjcpe.jpg

Wow that is a wee one. Nice pen BTW.

On Jun 22, 11:21*am, ChattyCathy > wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:46:11 -0700, projectile vomit chick wrote:
> > On Jun 21, 5:39*am, "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote:
> >> Visions cookware. *The glass stuff from Corning about 25 years ago.
> >> *When our daughter moved west, she left us her set. *It ended up in
> >> the trash with the boiled potatoes still stuck to the bottom.
>
> > Ha! *I remember those. *They were just awful!
>
> I have to wonder why people find them so awful. I have a glass pot that
> has a "Vision Corning, France" stamp on the handle (with a 'lip' for
> pouring sauce or whatever) that I bought about 7 or 8 years ago - and I
> haven't had anything stick to it - and it's been very easy to clean. It
> wasn't expensive; IIRC, I only paid a couple of (US) bucks for it at a
> local store and I still use it a couple of times a week. FWIW, it didn't
> come with a lid.

The only thing I remember about them is it seems that everything stuck
to them.

"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 10:53:28 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> > wrote:
>
>> And I
>>> eat off paper plates whenever possible; Sam's Club sells cases of
>>> 1,000 for about $9, and they are pretty good quality, even
>>> plasticised. Paper plates cut way down on dish washing and are more
>>> sanitary... and at less than a penny per they are far cheaper than
>>> washing dishes. Sandwiches, fruit, cheese, sausage, etc I eat
>>
>>You aren't doing the environment any favors by using "plasticised"
>>paper products - use ones that are all paper with no coating, they are
>>much more biodegradable. They are also more expensive. I don't fault
>>you for using paper plates - I usually do, too, for the same reasons,
>>unless I have guests, of course. But I use the heavy Chinet ones
>>which are totally cardboard.
>
> I buy the plain paper plates but occasionally when I get them home and
> open the case I see they are coated... so I use both types... the
> plain cartons don't say and I don't know the code, next time I will
> open the box and check. The plasticized are very thinly coated on the
> inside only, but I don't like that they don't absorb fat... I mostly
> use those to feed cats, in fact I'll eat from them and still use them
> for cat food, so they do double duty. Even with the plastic coating
> those plates compost pretty quickly, whatever plastic they use it's
> very biodegradeable... I use some in my garden to keep weeds from
> growing around plants, they decompose in less than one growing season
> from the sun's UV. I don't buy the fancy schmancy disposable plates,
> for company I use my good dishes... I only use the cheapo paper plates
> for me... saves time, labor, water/hot water, dishwashing liquid, my
> septic system, my dishwasher, even my water softener. I don't see
> anything wrong in using disposables, after all I bet most folks use
> all sorts of disposables, people use paper napkins all the time except
> for formal dinners... how many do you know who use cloth diapers
> instead of disposables? Today everything is disposable, even PCs...
> how many can remember the last time they sat down and wrote a real
> snail mail, on real archiveable stationary, and with a real pen and
> real ink, not some 19¢ disposable ball point on cruddy printer paper.
> I still write with fountain pens.
> A very small sample:
> http://i56.tinypic.com/1tvaf8.jpg
> My everyday writers:
> http://i51.tinypic.com/10g06mt.jpg

Here we can put the plain ones in our green bin. The coated ones can go in
if they are rinsed clean.

We generally use paper plates and bowls in this house. Paper cups too, but
I tend to keep the same cup and use it until it starts looking bad. I only
use it for water for the pills I take prior to meals.

As far as being environmentally friendly I suppose you would have to factor
in the energy being used to make the hot water to wash dishes and also the
soap. Yes, I do have to wash serving and mixing bowls, pans and other
stuff.

"Polly Esther" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> Visions cookware. The glass stuff from Corning about 25 years ago. When
>> our daughter moved west, she left us her set. It ended up in the trash
>> with the boiled potatoes still stuck to the bottom.
>
> I wish I'd thought of that. We were given some terribly thin stainless
> steel skillets and I scrubbed them clean before I put them in the trash.
> When I hear somebody brag about a great deal on stainless steel skillets I
> wonder if they're just buying/giving trouble. That's such a shabby trick
> to lay on a new bride/cook. Polly

I learned early on that a good skillet is a must!

My first set of cookware was cute enamel coated stuff that matched my
Corelle. It was horrible! I don't even think it made it for 2 years before
I threw it out.

projectile vomit chick wrote:
> On Jun 22, 11:21 am, ChattyCathy > wrote:
>> On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:46:11 -0700, projectile vomit chick wrote:
>>> On Jun 21, 5:39 am, "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote:
>>>> Visions cookware. The glass stuff from Corning about 25 years ago.
>>>> When our daughter moved west, she left us her set. It ended up in
>>>> the trash with the boiled potatoes still stuck to the bottom.
>>
>>> Ha! I remember those. They were just awful!
>>
>> I have to wonder why people find them so awful. I have a glass pot
>> that has a "Vision Corning, France" stamp on the handle (with a
>> 'lip' for pouring sauce or whatever) that I bought about 7 or 8
>> years ago - and I haven't had anything stick to it - and it's been
>> very easy to clean. It wasn't expensive; IIRC, I only paid a couple
>> of (US) bucks for it at a local store and I still use it a couple of
>> times a week. FWIW, it didn't come with a lid.
>
> The only thing I remember about them is it seems that everything stuck
> to them.

Water probably stuck to them.

On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:48:39 -0700, projectile vomit chick wrote:

<talking about Vision cookware>
>
> The only thing I remember about them is it seems that everything stuck
> to them.

Maybe the pot I have was actually made in a different factory (or
something). I also use this particular pot on our gas burner to boil water
for tea during power failures (which happen fairly often 'round here)
because it has that lip thingie which makes it easier to pour the water
into my cup.

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:49:19 -0400, Nancy2 wrote
(in article
>):

> On Jun 21, 8:57*pm, Lee > wrote:
>> On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:24:10 -0400, Jean B. wrote
>> (in article >):
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Dora wrote:
>>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> <g> the best thing about the WORST kitchen hand me down, is that you
>>>>>>> can toss it)
>>
>>>>>> Unless it has sentimental value, then you
>>>>>> can't!
>>
>>>>> Things that are too big or just out of place, can always be
>>>>> photographed. Surely it is the memories that matter, not the item?
>>
>>>> I'm thinking about a luncheon set for twelve that my mother was given as
>>>> a wedding gift. *Although it was bone china she didn't care for the
>>>> pattern and never used it.
>>>> I inherited it; I didn't care for it either but couldn't bear to throw
>>>> it awayt. *I gave it to my daughter-in-law - she loves it and has it on
>>>> display. *Everybody's happy!
>>
>>> That's great, Dora. *I have a lot of heirlooms, and right now I'd
>>> say my daughter is interested in little or none of the things. *My
>>> nephew MAY be interested though. * *I MAY end up seeing whether
>>> some museums are interested.
>>
>> Maybe you could sell your unwanted china to
>>
>> Replacement.LTDhttp://www.replacements.com/index.htm
>>
>> I doubt you would get the prices listed for replacement pieces but they have
>> to be getting their merchandise from somewhere.
>>
>> In any case, you can get an idea of the value of your dishes/china.
>>
>> --
>> Lee
>> Park Ridge NJ
>> rarebirdyatverizondotnet- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Their purchase prices are about 10% of what they sell them for (china)
> - I have cream soup and saucer sets (2 pieces, the soup bowl has a
> little handle on each side) - in my china pattern. They are asking
> $107 for a set - I just bought some for $23 a set including shipping -
> if the dude I bought them from had been able to get more from
> Replacements, trust me, he would have sold them to Replacements.
>
> N.

Good to know that I could probably make more selling my stuff at my garage
sale. Interesting. I am wondering where they get their china from if they do
not give a decent dollar for them?
--
Lee
Park Ridge NJ
rarebirdyatverizondotnet

Lee wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:24:10 -0400, Jean B. wrote
> (in article >):
>
>> Dora wrote:
>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> <g> the best thing about the WORST kitchen hand me down, is that you
>>>>>> can toss it)
>>>>> Unless it has sentimental value, then you
>>>>> can't!
>>>> Things that are too big or just out of place, can always be
>>>> photographed. Surely it is the memories that matter, not the item?
>>>>
>>> I'm thinking about a luncheon set for twelve that my mother was given as
>>> a wedding gift. Although it was bone china she didn't care for the
>>> pattern and never used it.
>>> I inherited it; I didn't care for it either but couldn't bear to throw
>>> it awayt. I gave it to my daughter-in-law - she loves it and has it on
>>> display. Everybody's happy!
>> That's great, Dora. I have a lot of heirlooms, and right now I'd
>> say my daughter is interested in little or none of the things. My
>> nephew MAY be interested though. I MAY end up seeing whether
>> some museums are interested.
>>
>>
>
> Maybe you could sell your unwanted china to
>
> Replacement.LTD
> http://www.replacements.com/index.htm
>
> I doubt you would get the prices listed for replacement pieces but they have
> to be getting their merchandise from somewhere.
>
>
> In any case, you can get an idea of the value of your dishes/china.
>
>
> --
> Lee
> Park Ridge NJ
> rarebirdyatverizondotnet
>

Right. I could end up going that route.

--
Jean B.

Nancy2 wrote:
> And I
>> eat off paper plates whenever possible; Sam's Club sells cases of
>> 1,000 for about $9, and they are pretty good quality, even
>> plasticised. Paper plates cut way down on dish washing and are more
>> sanitary... and at less than a penny per they are far cheaper than
>> washing dishes. Sandwiches, fruit, cheese, sausage, etc I eat
>
> You aren't doing the environment any favors by using "plasticised"
> paper products - use ones that are all paper with no coating, they are
> much more biodegradable. They are also more expensive. I don't fault
> you for using paper plates - I usually do, too, for the same reasons,
> unless I have guests, of course. But I use the heavy Chinet ones
> which are totally cardboard.
>
> N.

Hmmm. I wonder whether these things contain recycled paper. I
heard (this week, I think) of the carcinogenic contaminants in
such things--and that it can even emanate from the outer packaging
into the individual boxes.

--
Jean B.

Brooklyn1 wrote:
[snip] Today everything is disposable, even PCs...
> how many can remember the last time they sat down and wrote a real
> snail mail, on real archiveable stationary, and with a real pen and
> real ink, not some 19¢ disposable ball point on cruddy printer paper.
> I still write with fountain pens.
> A very small sample:
> http://i56.tinypic.com/1tvaf8.jpg
> My everyday writers:
> http://i51.tinypic.com/10g06mt.jpg

Gorgeous pens! (And they take up less space than books do!)
--
Jean B.

Polly Esther wrote:
>
> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> Visions cookware. The glass stuff from Corning about 25 years ago.
>> When our daughter moved west, she left us her set. It ended up in the
>> trash with the boiled potatoes still stuck to the bottom.
>
> I wish I'd thought of that. We were given some terribly thin stainless
> steel skillets and I scrubbed them clean before I put them in the trash.
> When I hear somebody brag about a great deal on stainless steel skillets
> I wonder if they're just buying/giving trouble. That's such a shabby
> trick to lay on a new bride/cook. Polly

Well, I mentioned that I got a cheap Farberware set of stainless
steel pots and pans for the new cooktop. I can't use my beloved
old Revereware, and I didn't want to shell out for anymore
All-Clad, which I pretty much dislike for a variety of reasons. I
was kind-of ticked off to find that the Farberware skillets were
NOT stainless steel! Other than that, the Farberware is closer to
what I like than almost any of the pots and pans on the market now.

--
Jean B.