This is getting insane. First it was milk, then peanuts, now wheat.
How long do we keep our heads in the sand and ignore these GM foods
and what they are doing to us. What's next? Full food allergies?

"I can't anything but ocean sand and iceberg melt"

"Gee, I guess yer gonna die!"

nb

On Jul 3, 12:53*pm, notbob > wrote:
> This is getting insane. *First it was milk, then peanuts, now wheat.
> How long do we keep our heads in the sand and ignore these GM foods
> and what they are doing to us. *What's next? *Full food allergies? *
>
> "I can't anything but ocean sand and iceberg melt"
>
> "Gee, I guess yer gonna die!"
>
> nb

I know I feel much better being off all grains, potatoes and rice,
except
sushi. I refuse to give up my sushi!!! Now if I eat grains I get a
stomach
ache and bloating. They were definitely a problem for me, and I
didn't
know it. Was off them for about 6 weeks when I started trying them
again
1 at a time. Pasta first, bad, potatoes, OK, but in small amounts,
Taco chips
at the Mexican place, very bad, corn on the cob, ok the first night,
one ear,
but not good one ear the next evening. That situation can be good
fior
yer waisteline!! has been 15 lbs good for me since April 1.
Nan

notbob wrote:
>
> This is getting insane. First it was milk, then peanuts, now wheat.
> How long do we keep our heads in the sand and ignore these GM foods
> and what they are doing to us. What's next? Full food allergies?
>
> "I can't anything but ocean sand and iceberg melt"
>
> "Gee, I guess yer gonna die!"
>
> nb

Yes, it is insane to wildly claim that some mysterious GM foods are
causing the apparent increase in allergies without a shred of data to
back the claim. Milk is not a GM food, nor are peanuts.

On Jul 3, 6:33*pm, Mark Thorson > wrote:

> Far from causing allergies, GM may be the cure.
> By finding non-provoking forms of the allergen
> proteins and inserting them into food crops,
> they may be rendered hypoallergenic.


That would be great. Then Nan could gain back the 15 pounds she
lost, plus a few extra to go along with it.


TJ

"notbob" > wrote in message
...
> This is getting insane. First it was milk, then peanuts, now wheat.
> How long do we keep our heads in the sand and ignore these GM foods
> and what they are doing to us. What's next? Full food allergies?
>
> "I can't anything but ocean sand and iceberg melt"
>
> "Gee, I guess yer gonna die!"
>
> nb

Allergic to water?

On 2011-07-03, Christine Dabney > wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Jul 2011 13:45:50 -0500, "Pete C." >
> wrote:
>
>
>>Yes, it is insane to wildly claim that some mysterious GM foods are
>>causing the apparent increase in allergies without a shred of data to
>>back the claim. Milk is not a GM food, nor are peanuts.
>
> Nor is gluten, although it might be in genetically modified foods.

GM means genetically modified. As for milk, Monsanto isn't pushing
the crap outta BGH? News to me. You know for a fact wheat or peanuts
are NOT GM foods? I'd be amazed if they weren't.

Yes, I'm wildly insane. Science is screwing with every facet of our
food supply, but I'm wildly out of line to believe they are modifying our
peanuts and wheat, which is still as pristine and as natural as when
Jesus wore short pants. And the sky isn't blue and water isn't wet
and there's no such thing as global warming.

Hard to believe their are still ppl this freakin' naive/stupid.

nb

notbob wrote:
>
> This is getting insane. First it was milk, then peanuts, now wheat.
> How long do we keep our heads in the sand and ignore these GM foods
> and what they are doing to us. What's next? Full food allergies?

Far from causing allergies, GM may be the cure.
By finding non-provoking forms of the allergen
proteins and inserting them into food crops,
they may be rendered hypoallergenic.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...68945206002573

notbob wrote:
>
> On 2011-07-03, Christine Dabney > wrote:
> > On Sun, 03 Jul 2011 13:45:50 -0500, "Pete C." >
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Yes, it is insane to wildly claim that some mysterious GM foods are
> >>causing the apparent increase in allergies without a shred of data to
> >>back the claim. Milk is not a GM food, nor are peanuts.
> >
> > Nor is gluten, although it might be in genetically modified foods.
>
> GM means genetically modified. As for milk, Monsanto isn't pushing
> the crap outta BGH? News to me. You know for a fact wheat or peanuts
> are NOT GM foods? I'd be amazed if they weren't.
>
> Yes, I'm wildly insane. Science is screwing with every facet of our
> food supply, but I'm wildly out of line to believe they are modifying our
> peanuts and wheat, which is still as pristine and as natural as when
> Jesus wore short pants. And the sky isn't blue and water isn't wet
> and there's no such thing as global warming.
>
> Hard to believe their are still ppl this freakin' naive/stupid.
>
> nb

Ah yes, those stupid enough to believe in religion are also the ones who
are terrified of and attack anything they don't understand. Just because
*you* don't have the intelligence to understand what GM is and isn't,
doesn't meant that those producing the GM items don't fully understand
it, nor does it mean that more than a small subset of the population
doesn't understand it. While you were busy studying your fantasy "holy
book(s)", the rest of us were busy learning how the world actually
works.

"Pete C." > wrote:
> notbob wrote:
>>
>> On 2011-07-03, Christine Dabney > wrote:
>>> On Sun, 03 Jul 2011 13:45:50 -0500, "Pete C." >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Yes, it is insane to wildly claim that some mysterious GM foods are
>>>> causing the apparent increase in allergies without a shred of data to
>>>> back the claim. Milk is not a GM food, nor are peanuts.
>>>
>>> Nor is gluten, although it might be in genetically modified foods.
>>
>> GM means genetically modified. As for milk, Monsanto isn't pushing
>> the crap outta BGH? News to me. You know for a fact wheat or peanuts
>> are NOT GM foods? I'd be amazed if they weren't.
>>
>> Yes, I'm wildly insane. Science is screwing with every facet of our
>> food supply, but I'm wildly out of line to believe they are modifying our
>> peanuts and wheat, which is still as pristine and as natural as when
>> Jesus wore short pants. And the sky isn't blue and water isn't wet
>> and there's no such thing as global warming.
>>
>> Hard to believe their are still ppl this freakin' naive/stupid.
>>
>> nb
>
> Ah yes, those stupid enough to believe in religion are also the ones who
> are terrified of and attack anything they don't understand. Just because
> *you* don't have the intelligence to understand what GM is and isn't,
> doesn't meant that those producing the GM items don't fully understand
> it, nor does it mean that more than a small subset of the population
> doesn't understand it. While you were busy studying your fantasy "holy
> book(s)", the rest of us were busy learning how the world actually
> works.

What I want is food labels that labels the food source that is engineered
or not. I say let the public decide on what they want. Label the food
source engineered or heirloom. Give the buyers what they want.

--
Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

Nad R wrote:
>
> "Pete C." > wrote:
> > notbob wrote:
> >>
> >> On 2011-07-03, Christine Dabney > wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 03 Jul 2011 13:45:50 -0500, "Pete C." >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Yes, it is insane to wildly claim that some mysterious GM foods are
> >>>> causing the apparent increase in allergies without a shred of data to
> >>>> back the claim. Milk is not a GM food, nor are peanuts.
> >>>
> >>> Nor is gluten, although it might be in genetically modified foods.
> >>
> >> GM means genetically modified. As for milk, Monsanto isn't pushing
> >> the crap outta BGH? News to me. You know for a fact wheat or peanuts
> >> are NOT GM foods? I'd be amazed if they weren't.
> >>
> >> Yes, I'm wildly insane. Science is screwing with every facet of our
> >> food supply, but I'm wildly out of line to believe they are modifying our
> >> peanuts and wheat, which is still as pristine and as natural as when
> >> Jesus wore short pants. And the sky isn't blue and water isn't wet
> >> and there's no such thing as global warming.
> >>
> >> Hard to believe their are still ppl this freakin' naive/stupid.
> >>
> >> nb
> >
> > Ah yes, those stupid enough to believe in religion are also the ones who
> > are terrified of and attack anything they don't understand. Just because
> > *you* don't have the intelligence to understand what GM is and isn't,
> > doesn't meant that those producing the GM items don't fully understand
> > it, nor does it mean that more than a small subset of the population
> > doesn't understand it. While you were busy studying your fantasy "holy
> > book(s)", the rest of us were busy learning how the world actually
> > works.
>
> What I want is food labels that labels the food source that is engineered
> or not. I say let the public decide on what they want. Label the food
> source engineered or heirloom. Give the buyers what they want.

Absolutely. Full disclosure of country(ies) of origin, GM, pesticide,
irradiated, etc.

"Nad R" > wrote in message
...
> "Pete C." > wrote:
>> notbob wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2011-07-03, Christine Dabney > wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 03 Jul 2011 13:45:50 -0500, "Pete C." >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, it is insane to wildly claim that some mysterious GM foods are
>>>>> causing the apparent increase in allergies without a shred of data to
>>>>> back the claim. Milk is not a GM food, nor are peanuts.
>>>>
>>>> Nor is gluten, although it might be in genetically modified foods.
>>>
>>> GM means genetically modified. As for milk, Monsanto isn't pushing
>>> the crap outta BGH? News to me. You know for a fact wheat or peanuts
>>> are NOT GM foods? I'd be amazed if they weren't.
>>>
>>> Yes, I'm wildly insane. Science is screwing with every facet of our
>>> food supply, but I'm wildly out of line to believe they are modifying
>>> our
>>> peanuts and wheat, which is still as pristine and as natural as when
>>> Jesus wore short pants. And the sky isn't blue and water isn't wet
>>> and there's no such thing as global warming.
>>>
>>> Hard to believe their are still ppl this freakin' naive/stupid.
>>>
>>> nb
>>
>> Ah yes, those stupid enough to believe in religion are also the ones who
>> are terrified of and attack anything they don't understand. Just because
>> *you* don't have the intelligence to understand what GM is and isn't,
>> doesn't meant that those producing the GM items don't fully understand
>> it, nor does it mean that more than a small subset of the population
>> doesn't understand it. While you were busy studying your fantasy "holy
>> book(s)", the rest of us were busy learning how the world actually
>> works.
>
> What I want is food labels that labels the food source that is engineered
> or not. I say let the public decide on what they want. Label the food
> source engineered or heirloom. Give the buyers what they want.

Agreed! There is a way to tell on the UPC stickers for fresh produce
whether it is organic, or GMO but I can't remember which part of the numbers
they are or what they are.

On Jul 3, 11:53*am, notbob > wrote:
> This is getting insane. *First it was milk, then peanuts, now wheat.
> How long do we keep our heads in the sand and ignore these GM foods
> and what they are doing to us. *What's next? *Full food allergies? *
>
> "I can't anything but ocean sand and iceberg melt"
>
> "Gee, I guess yer gonna die!"

I noticed ever since they started shoving soybeans in everything that
I don't seem to digest foods as well anymore.

On Jul 3, 7:37*pm, Nad R > wrote:

> What I want is food labels that labels the food source that is engineered
> or not. I say let the public decide on what they want. Label the food
> source engineered or heirloom. Give the buyers what they want.


I take no sides, not yet - I'm just a bystander on this one. And
I think I'll be standing a long time.

In the meantime, as one who tends to over-think and sometimes even
enjoys it, I can't help but analyze all situations to find the
positives and the negatives - and no matter how positive something
sounds at the start, my belief is that the negative is sure to follow
and is rarely seen by most till it's too late.

I see the positives in food labeling. But there are negatives.
Some have a positive look. For example, food labeling will open up
new jobs as inspectors are hired to make sure the labeling is not
false, and even more people will be hired to keep an eye on the
inspectors, to make sure they're not lying. An entire industry of
spies will be hired to ensure that the labeling is correct. People
will be paid off to conceal what's really in the product. On the flip
side of that same negative coin, others will be paid to reveal what's
in the product, even if it means they're lying about it just to give
that company a bad name and put it out of business.

It's all corrupt, for god's sake listen to me, we are all doomed to
corruption
TJ - Chief inspector in charge of discipline - anti-corruption Unit
432, North Carolina Regimen, South East Regional

Tommy Joe > wrote:
> On Jul 3, 7:37 pm, Nad R > wrote:
>
>> What I want is food labels that labels the food source that is engineered
>> or not. I say let the public decide on what they want. Label the food
>> source engineered or heirloom. Give the buyers what they want.
>
>
> I take no sides, not yet - I'm just a bystander on this one. And
> I think I'll be standing a long time.
>
> In the meantime, as one who tends to over-think and sometimes even
> enjoys it, I can't help but analyze all situations to find the
> positives and the negatives - and no matter how positive something
> sounds at the start, my belief is that the negative is sure to follow
> and is rarely seen by most till it's too late.
>
> I see the positives in food labeling. But there are negatives.
> Some have a positive look. For example, food labeling will open up
> new jobs as inspectors are hired to make sure the labeling is not
> false, and even more people will be hired to keep an eye on the
> inspectors, to make sure they're not lying. An entire industry of
> spies will be hired to ensure that the labeling is correct. People
> will be paid off to conceal what's really in the product. On the flip
> side of that same negative coin, others will be paid to reveal what's
> in the product, even if it means they're lying about it just to give
> that company a bad name and put it out of business.
>
> It's all corrupt, for god's sake listen to me, we are all doomed to
> corruption
> TJ - Chief inspector in charge of discipline - anti-corruption Unit
> 432, North Carolina Regimen, South East Regional

And I thought I was a pessimist. Labels is the right direction.
Corporations have fought label laws since the beginning of time. Corrupt
people live by the phrase "Let the buyer beware". Labels will help slow
down the corruption because false labeling will cost them more money from
lawsuits.

--
Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

Christine Dabney wrote:
>
> A lot of food allergies have not been reported as such in the past
> more than likely, cause there was no clear cut culprit. Some people
> who are allergic to gluten for instance, can spend years trying to
> find out what is making them so sick. When they finally eliminate
> gluten from their lives, they start feeling well.

Also - If you have felt that way as far back as you can remember then
that's normal for you. Normal isn't sick. I never tried to go a week
wheat free in my life before I decided to do it for reasons that had
nothing to do with indigestion. My health improved but it was others
who pointed it out to me. I just felt good. Then I tried wheat again
and boom the "used to be normal now I call it symptoms" came back.

> There are probably other substances that have been under reported
> too..now with people finally becoming aware, they have found out what
> is making them feel miserable. Not every allergy causes anaphylactic
> shock...

If you're not aware that food intolerances happen and certain symptoms
come and go you might never associate them with diet. Bingo, you
believe food intolerances don't exist.

Migraines may well be caused by diet for a lot more people than ever
believe it. When I read the Atkins books because I was going to try it
for weight loss I read his claims that migraines will go away. Uh huh,
yeah sure. He makes all sorts of claims some of which are clearly false
like "Atkins works for everyone". Yet since 1999 I have had one where I
had a few debilitating ones per year before I became a part time low
carber and wheat avoider. What triggers migraines in me I don't know
but it does involve how I eat differently now.

I'm far better at curing friends of snoring by talking them off either
wheat or corn than I am at curing friends of migraines, though. I know
exactly what triggers my loud snoring. I just know something in how I
eat differently no longer triggers migraines.

John Lawless wrote:
>
> Allergic to water?

Water has the simplist and most effective advertizing campaign possible
- Without it you die.

when i finally got the the right nurologist, he gave me a huge list of
things to avoid, then he said to add them back one at a time, i saw him
because i had five migraines in three weeks, it was the same week nutrecrap
came olut in new coke... I have never been able to add this one back, and
beer was on the list, which i never drink because i am allergic to it, but i
have been able to add back cheese, mushrooms, chocolate, red wine if
limited, and dairy in general, if limited...

also msg if very limited and sugar if very limited...

this dr said migraines have four sources, food allergins, hormone
components, genetic components, and visual stimulant components,

my mother and sister both have them, so that covers genetic, i control the
food allergens, and thank the stars i made it to fifty so the hormone
component is less, and now that i am totally blind that is no longer a
factor,

sorry for rambling,

Lee
"Doug Freyburger" > wrote in message
...
> Christine Dabney wrote:
>>
>> A lot of food allergies have not been reported as such in the past
>> more than likely, cause there was no clear cut culprit. Some people
>> who are allergic to gluten for instance, can spend years trying to
>> find out what is making them so sick. When they finally eliminate
>> gluten from their lives, they start feeling well.
>
> Also - If you have felt that way as far back as you can remember then
> that's normal for you. Normal isn't sick. I never tried to go a week
> wheat free in my life before I decided to do it for reasons that had
> nothing to do with indigestion. My health improved but it was others
> who pointed it out to me. I just felt good. Then I tried wheat again
> and boom the "used to be normal now I call it symptoms" came back.
>
>> There are probably other substances that have been under reported
>> too..now with people finally becoming aware, they have found out what
>> is making them feel miserable. Not every allergy causes anaphylactic
>> shock...
>
> If you're not aware that food intolerances happen and certain symptoms
> come and go you might never associate them with diet. Bingo, you
> believe food intolerances don't exist.
>
> Migraines may well be caused by diet for a lot more people than ever
> believe it. When I read the Atkins books because I was going to try it
> for weight loss I read his claims that migraines will go away. Uh huh,
> yeah sure. He makes all sorts of claims some of which are clearly false
> like "Atkins works for everyone". Yet since 1999 I have had one where I
> had a few debilitating ones per year before I became a part time low
> carber and wheat avoider. What triggers migraines in me I don't know
> but it does involve how I eat differently now.
>
> I'm far better at curing friends of snoring by talking them off either
> wheat or corn than I am at curing friends of migraines, though. I know
> exactly what triggers my loud snoring. I just know something in how I
> eat differently no longer triggers migraines.

"Storrmmee" > wrote in message
...
> when i finally got the the right nurologist, he gave me a huge list of
> things to avoid, then he said to add them back one at a time, i saw him
> because i had five migraines in three weeks, it was the same week
> nutrecrap came olut in new coke... I have never been able to add this one
> back, and beer was on the list, which i never drink because i am allergic
> to it, but i have been able to add back cheese, mushrooms, chocolate, red
> wine if limited, and dairy in general, if limited...
>
> also msg if very limited and sugar if very limited...
>
> this dr said migraines have four sources, food allergins, hormone
> components, genetic components, and visual stimulant components,
>
> my mother and sister both have them, so that covers genetic, i control the
> food allergens, and thank the stars i made it to fifty so the hormone
> component is less, and now that i am totally blind that is no longer a
> factor,
>
> sorry for rambling,
>
> Lee

My migraines started when I was on meds for GERD. Every stinking one of
them caused them. And they only stopped when I stopped the meds.

I still get them but not as frequently and they do seem to be tied to my
cycle. Usually when I get them it is right at the start of it. Or during.

On Jul 5, 6:47*am, Nad R > wrote:

> And I thought I was a pessimist. Labels is the right direction.
> Corporations have fought label laws since the beginning of time. Corrupt
> people live by the phrase "Let the buyer beware". Labels will help slow
> down the corruption because false labeling will cost them more money from
> lawsuits.
> Enjoy Life... Nad R *(Garden in zone 5a Michigan)


But, just in case you think otherwise, I am not opposed to
labeling, only recognizing that, like most laws, it can be taken too
far.

That is all,
TJ

On 2011-07-06, jmcquown > wrote:

> I hate to be the one to inform you, but I eat pretty much anything I want to
> and I'm not allergic to anything. No problems.

Why do you hate to inform me. I don't mind. I like being informed.
It's not like being informed is a disease. And like you, not much I'm
allergic to. The skin of a cucumber is all I can think of, and it's
been so long, may not be sensitive any longer.

> Who/what the heck is Monsanto?

My turn to inform you:

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-w...g-to-monsanto/

Perhaps one of the most shocking documentaries on food ever made.
Although this film is French, other US made documentaries have
substantiated and reinforced what it is saying about our food supply.

Like the fact that corn fed beef of bad mojo. Cattle do not eat corn.
They didn't evolve to eat corn and it screws 'em up and makes them
sick and we gotta keep 'em doped up on chemicals and antibiotics so
they can survive that diet which, while it makes for tender meat, damn
near kills the poor steer.

Maybe you need to move further away from the left coast

And live in the 2/3rds of the country that swelters like a sauna?
Thanks, but no thanks. I'll stick with our highs of 86F and humidity
below 50%, with short cooling showers in the afternoon. I lived in TN
for 2 yrs, remember. You can have everything East of Denver all to
yourelf, with my blessing.

nb

this stuff about corn and cattle is so wrong, in fact if given an
oppertunity, they will bust into a cornfeild and strip it just like deer
will, what makes cattle sick is when they are bred too close genticially and
when they aren't properly vetted, Lee
"notbob" > wrote in message
...
> On 2011-07-06, jmcquown > wrote:
>
>> I hate to be the one to inform you, but I eat pretty much anything I want
>> to
>> and I'm not allergic to anything. No problems.
>
> Why do you hate to inform me. I don't mind. I like being informed.
> It's not like being informed is a disease. And like you, not much I'm
> allergic to. The skin of a cucumber is all I can think of, and it's
> been so long, may not be sensitive any longer.
>
>> Who/what the heck is Monsanto?
>
> My turn to inform you:
>
> http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-w...g-to-monsanto/
>
> Perhaps one of the most shocking documentaries on food ever made.
> Although this film is French, other US made documentaries have
> substantiated and reinforced what it is saying about our food supply.
>
> Like the fact that corn fed beef of bad mojo. Cattle do not eat corn.
> They didn't evolve to eat corn and it screws 'em up and makes them
> sick and we gotta keep 'em doped up on chemicals and antibiotics so
> they can survive that diet which, while it makes for tender meat, damn
> near kills the poor steer.
>
> Maybe you need to move further away from the left coast
>
> And live in the 2/3rds of the country that swelters like a sauna?
> Thanks, but no thanks. I'll stick with our highs of 86F and humidity
> below 50%, with short cooling showers in the afternoon. I lived in TN
> for 2 yrs, remember. You can have everything East of Denver all to
> yourelf, with my blessing.
>
> nb

Marty wrote:

> The usual idea in modern civilization is to have people be educated, not
> to have them use whatever words they want to describe whatever they want.

Could you care less?

Bob

True! When I first saw this documentary, that was my first question. I live within 300 yards of both dairy cows and beef steers. I move both by offering them corn to move into the trailer. They love the stuff. They also live very healthy in WI. They also graze on wild grasses and eat alfalfa in the winter. Just like most mammals, they need a balance. Corn is a healthy part of that balance. Anyone who has done farm work can tell you cows like corn.

Saying it's not natural is like saying it goes against nature to plant potatoes and tomatos anywhere but in the Americas.

Mansanto might scare folks. They do me. That's why I like less GM stuff for my diet. Still, that's just my choice and there is no data to back the ill effects of eating the stuff.

Water is wet-fact. Global warming exists-still opinion. Something sure appears to be going on, though. Is it man-made or of nature? THAT is the question.

I notice that some of my allergic reactions change as I age. Just like some of my tastes. No reason to freak out, man.

monsanto isn't a business i would own stoc in, and the way cattle is
slaughtered has issues, but think about it, the person breeding/raising the
ones that go to market must treat the breeding stock well or their
production will be limited and they will lose money, this as silly as these
animal rights fools having a fit to make farmers house their cattle in barns
in the winter? do youu know what you get if you stall house cattle in
winter? you get cattle with lung viruses that kill them off, overheating
in winter is a huge issue for cattle, my father has scheduling birthing in
all seasons, and december to feb allowes for the best birthing for the cows
and calves, also shows him veryquickly which calves are weak, and which cows
aren't mothering properly, Lee
"Gorio" > wrote in message
...
>
> Storrmmee;1634628 Wrote:
>> this stuff about corn and cattle is so wrong, in fact if given an
>> oppertunity, they will bust into a cornfeild and strip it just like deer
>>
>> will, what makes cattle sick is when they are bred too close genticially
>> and
>> when they aren't properly vetted, Lee
>> "notbob" lid wrote in message
>> ...-
>> On 2011-07-06, jmcquown wrote:
>> -
>> I hate to be the one to inform you, but I eat pretty much anything I
>> want
>> to
>> and I'm not allergic to anything. No problems.-
>>
>> Why do you hate to inform me. I don't mind. I like being informed.
>> It's not like being informed is a disease. And like you, not much I'm
>> allergic to. The skin of a cucumber is all I can think of, and it's
>> been so long, may not be sensitive any longer.
>> -
>> Who/what the heck is Monsanto?-
>>
>> My turn to inform you:
>>
>> 'The World According to Monsanto | Watch Free Documentary Online'
>> (http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-w...g-to-monsanto/)
>>
>> Perhaps one of the most shocking documentaries on food ever made.
>> Although this film is French, other US made documentaries have
>> substantiated and reinforced what it is saying about our food supply.
>>
>> Like the fact that corn fed beef of bad mojo. Cattle do not eat corn.
>> They didn't evolve to eat corn and it screws 'em up and makes them
>> sick and we gotta keep 'em doped up on chemicals and antibiotics so
>> they can survive that diet which, while it makes for tender meat, damn
>> near kills the poor steer.
>>
>> Maybe you need to move further away from the left coast
>>
>> And live in the 2/3rds of the country that swelters like a sauna?
>> Thanks, but no thanks. I'll stick with our highs of 86F and humidity
>> below 50%, with short cooling showers in the afternoon. I lived in TN
>> for 2 yrs, remember. You can have everything East of Denver all to
>> yourelf, with my blessing.
>>
>> nb -
>
> True! When I first saw this documentary, that was my first question. I
> live within 300 yards of both dairy cows and beef steers. I move both by
> offering them corn to move into the trailer. They love the stuff. They
> also live very healthy in WI. They also graze on wild grasses and eat
> alfalfa in the winter. Just like most mammals, they need a balance. Corn
> is a healthy part of that balance. Anyone who has done farm work can
> tell you cows like corn.
>
> Saying it's not natural is like saying it goes against nature to plant
> potatoes and tomatos anywhere but in the Americas.
>
> Mansanto might scare folks. They do me. That's why I like less GM stuff
> for my diet. Still, that's just my choice and there is no data to back
> the ill effects of eating the stuff.
>
> Water is wet-fact. Global warming exists-still opinion. Something sure
> appears to be going on, though. Is it man-made or of nature? THAT is the
> question.
>
> I notice that some of my allergic reactions change as I age. Just like
> some of my tastes. No reason to freak out, man.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Gorio

In article >,
Gorio > wrote:

> Storrmmee;1634628 Wrote:
> > this stuff about corn and cattle is so wrong, in fact if given an
> > oppertunity, they will bust into a cornfeild and strip it just like deer
> >
> > will, what makes cattle sick is when they are bred too close genticially
> > and
> > when they aren't properly vetted, Lee
> > "notbob" lid wrote in message
> > ...-
> > On 2011-07-06, jmcquown wrote:
> > -
> > I hate to be the one to inform you, but I eat pretty much anything I
> > want
> > to
> > and I'm not allergic to anything. No problems.-
> >
> > Why do you hate to inform me. I don't mind. I like being informed.
> > It's not like being informed is a disease. And like you, not much I'm
> > allergic to. The skin of a cucumber is all I can think of, and it's
> > been so long, may not be sensitive any longer.
> > -
> > Who/what the heck is Monsanto?-
> >
> > My turn to inform you:
> >
> > 'The World According to Monsanto | Watch Free Documentary Online'
> > (http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-w...g-to-monsanto/)
> >
> > Perhaps one of the most shocking documentaries on food ever made.
> > Although this film is French, other US made documentaries have
> > substantiated and reinforced what it is saying about our food supply.
> >
> > Like the fact that corn fed beef of bad mojo. Cattle do not eat corn.
> > They didn't evolve to eat corn and it screws 'em up and makes them
> > sick and we gotta keep 'em doped up on chemicals and antibiotics so
> > they can survive that diet which, while it makes for tender meat, damn
> > near kills the poor steer.
> >
> > Maybe you need to move further away from the left coast
> >
> > And live in the 2/3rds of the country that swelters like a sauna?
> > Thanks, but no thanks. I'll stick with our highs of 86F and humidity
> > below 50%, with short cooling showers in the afternoon. I lived in TN
> > for 2 yrs, remember. You can have everything East of Denver all to
> > yourelf, with my blessing.
> >
> > nb -
>
> True! When I first saw this documentary, that was my first question. I
> live within 300 yards of both dairy cows and beef steers. I move both by
> offering them corn to move into the trailer. They love the stuff. They
> also live very healthy in WI. They also graze on wild grasses and eat
> alfalfa in the winter. Just like most mammals, they need a balance. Corn
> is a healthy part of that balance. Anyone who has done farm work can
> tell you cows like corn.

Children like chocolate, but feeding them a diet consisting solely of
chocolate will make them sick.

Miche

--
Electricians do it in three phases

On 2011-07-07, Miche > wrote:
> In article >,
> Gorio > wrote:

>> alfalfa in the winter. Just like most mammals, they need a balance. Corn
>> is a healthy part of that balance. Anyone who has done farm work can
>> tell you cows like corn.

They'll also eat shredded newpapers mixed with dead cow parts, LIKE
BRAINS!!! Where the Hell do you think mad cow disease came from?
Dolt.

> Children like chocolate, but feeding them a diet consisting solely of
> chocolate will make them sick.

Sic 'em, Miche!

Jes like dogs will eat chocolate and chicken bones, both which will
kill them dead.

Like they say, there's no cure for stupid.

nb

no one feeds corn only even in the fattening stage, all corn would hurt not
only the uality of meat it might cause enough physical stress as to render
the animal useless to feed, i am not saying some don't do it. I am saying if
it were done on a commercial basis it would lower profits, but then these
people who advertise, antibotic free aren't as accurage as they could be,
Lee
"Miche" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> Gorio > wrote:
>
>> Storrmmee;1634628 Wrote:
>> > this stuff about corn and cattle is so wrong, in fact if given an
>> > oppertunity, they will bust into a cornfeild and strip it just like
>> > deer
>> >
>> > will, what makes cattle sick is when they are bred too close
>> > genticially
>> > and
>> > when they aren't properly vetted, Lee
>> > "notbob" lid wrote in message
>> > ...-
>> > On 2011-07-06, jmcquown wrote:
>> > -
>> > I hate to be the one to inform you, but I eat pretty much anything I
>> > want
>> > to
>> > and I'm not allergic to anything. No problems.-
>> >
>> > Why do you hate to inform me. I don't mind. I like being informed.
>> > It's not like being informed is a disease. And like you, not much I'm
>> > allergic to. The skin of a cucumber is all I can think of, and it's
>> > been so long, may not be sensitive any longer.
>> > -
>> > Who/what the heck is Monsanto?-
>> >
>> > My turn to inform you:
>> >
>> > 'The World According to Monsanto | Watch Free Documentary Online'
>> > (http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-w...g-to-monsanto/)
>> >
>> > Perhaps one of the most shocking documentaries on food ever made.
>> > Although this film is French, other US made documentaries have
>> > substantiated and reinforced what it is saying about our food supply.
>> >
>> > Like the fact that corn fed beef of bad mojo. Cattle do not eat corn.
>> > They didn't evolve to eat corn and it screws 'em up and makes them
>> > sick and we gotta keep 'em doped up on chemicals and antibiotics so
>> > they can survive that diet which, while it makes for tender meat, damn
>> > near kills the poor steer.
>> >
>> > Maybe you need to move further away from the left coast
>> >
>> > And live in the 2/3rds of the country that swelters like a sauna?
>> > Thanks, but no thanks. I'll stick with our highs of 86F and humidity
>> > below 50%, with short cooling showers in the afternoon. I lived in TN
>> > for 2 yrs, remember. You can have everything East of Denver all to
>> > yourelf, with my blessing.
>> >
>> > nb -
>>
>> True! When I first saw this documentary, that was my first question. I
>> live within 300 yards of both dairy cows and beef steers. I move both by
>> offering them corn to move into the trailer. They love the stuff. They
>> also live very healthy in WI. They also graze on wild grasses and eat
>> alfalfa in the winter. Just like most mammals, they need a balance. Corn
>> is a healthy part of that balance. Anyone who has done farm work can
>> tell you cows like corn.
>
> Children like chocolate, but feeding them a diet consisting solely of
> chocolate will make them sick.
>
> Miche
>
> --
> Electricians do it in three phases