On Jul 10, 8:52*am, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> Oh fer crying out loud. *Ground beef (cooked and drained, of course), a can
> of Campbell's tomato soup diluted with a can of water. *Add some chili
> powder and a dash of cayenne pepper. *Simmer gently until there's very
> little liquid remaining but it's... well the name says it all... "sloppy"..
> Serve it on hamburger buns. *There's no need to make this complicated with a
> thousand herbs or spices. *And certainly no need to add sugar to the mix.

"Betsy" > wrote in message
...
>>> Oh fer crying out loud. Ground beef
>>> (cooked and drained, of course), a can
>>> of Campbell's tomato soup diluted with
>>> a can of water. Add some chili powder
>>> and a dash of cayenne pepper. Simmer
>>> gently until there's very little liquid
>>> remaining but it's... well the name says
>>> it all... "sloppy". Serve it on hamburger
>>> buns. There's no need to make this
>>> complicated with a thousand herbs or
>>> spices. And certainly no need to add
>>> sugar to the mix.
>
>> O.k., Jill, now we are in sync. I think it
>> was originally a Campbell's 1940's
>> tomato soup recipe. Why make it
>> complicated? Some ground beef, maybe
>> a little celery, onion, bell pepper if it
>> floats your boat. Salt and pepper or chili
>> powder. Done. Janet US
>
> Add a can of kidney beans, some chili powder, and you've got my mom's
> easy chili.
>
Is your mom from Ohio?

Jill

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 09:52:24 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Oh fer crying out loud. Ground beef (cooked and drained, of course), a
>> can
>> of Campbell's tomato soup diluted with a can of water. Add some chili
>> powder and a dash of cayenne pepper. Simmer gently until there's very
>> little liquid remaining but it's... well the name says it all...
>> "sloppy".
>> Serve it on hamburger buns. There's no need to make this complicated
>> with a
>> thousand herbs or spices. And certainly no need to add sugar to the mix.
>>
>> Jill
>
> that sounds like a pretty cruddy sloppy joe to me.
>
> your pal,
> blake
>
Sloppy Joes are supposed to be cruddy

Jill

On Jul 10, 10:35*pm, sf > wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 19:30:40 -0700 (PDT), Bryan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > wrote:
> > On Jul 10, 7:57*pm, sf > wrote:
> > > On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 17:16:18 -0700 (PDT), Bryan
>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > On Jul 10, 12:19*pm, sf > wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 07:54:23 -0700, Christine Dabney
>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > I use Wayne Boatwright's recipe, which makes a very good one.
>
> > > > > Wayne's recipes are usually spot on.
>
> > > > That's laughable, especially with this recipe where there's jarred
> > > > "chili sauce," possibly the crappiest condiment ever devised, and
> > > > "catsup." *It looks like the sort of thing you'd see in a newspaper.
> > > > Any recipe with "chili sauce" belongs on the garbage heap.
>
> > > Bryan, sloppy joes aren't exactly haute cuisine to begin with.
> > > They're hamburger for god sake. *
>
> > If you think that "hamburger" is *injury*, does that justify adding
> > *insult*? *If you insult ground beef, does it justify injuring it with
> > slopping in crappy condiments? *Is that slopping in of crappy
> > condiments what makes it a "sloppy" joe? *And who the heck is Joe
> > anyway?
>
> LOL! *Well, to begin with there are some really GOOD chili sauces out
> there if you are too lazy to make it yourself. *Helpful hint: Homade,
> which would be too sweet for the OP - but I love it. *Put that in your
> pipe and smoke it.
>
You know when you see "chili sauce" that the recipe writer is
intending that one use Heinz type, and that discredits the whole
"recipe."

--Bryan

Joan Kuthe wrote:
>Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>Joan Kuthe
>>
>> >Bwrrryan, I was thinking about your "tastes" as I made and enjoyed
>> >another batch of my curried chicken, which I know you'd hate. I always
>> >say that I've never had anything gross that you've prepared and that
>> >is true. But I've also never had anything exceptionally or creatively
>> >spiced or flavored that you have made either! Like my curried chicken.
>> >Your "tastes" are very simple and pedestrian, not that there is
>> >anything wrong with that, but there is also not anything exceptionally
>> >right with it either. Good food is inherently delicious with the most
>> >basic of preparation methods, and this is what you excel at because of
>> >your hypersensitive senses of smell and flavor.
>>
>> >I finally get it!
>>
>> >Joan Kuthe...
>>
>> Regarding hypersensitive smell, it's real. *I suffered such for a
>> period of months and it is awful *You pick up notes in foods that no
>> one else knows is there or you'll pick up on something so exaggerated
>> as to be impossible to tolerate. *After living through that, I am now
>> very tolerant of other people's likes and dislikes. *I believe that
>> everyone is operating with different tuning on their senses.
>> Janet US
>
>I know Bryan's hypersensitive sense of smell is real. I discovered
>that a year or so ago when we were standing more than 6 feet from
>Bryan's wife and he was whinging about the smell. I could not smell it
>until I walked over and rubbed her coochie and smelled my finger, PU!
>
>Joan Kuthe... who's addicted to Bwrrrryan's peepee.


Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. . . .

sf wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 21:13:32 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>> Speaking of such... I was just eating a nectarine--or I started
>> to eat one, and then started thinking its flesh tasted like
>> pesticides. I have never thought that about anything before, so
>> it was kind-of odd. But then it makes sense, doesn't it? I guess
>> the nectarine will just have to try to follow its biological destiny.
>
> Sometimes I have a metallic taste in my mouth, but the dentist says
> there's no reason for it.
>
Odd. There must be a reason.

--
Jean B.

"sf" wrote in message
...

On 10 Jul 2011 13:57:33 GMT, notbob > wrote:

> On 2011-07-10, jmcquown > wrote:
>
> > powder and a dash of cayenne pepper....
>
> > There's no need to make this complicated with a
>
> Which you are also doing. Buy damn can of Manwich and mix in
> burger.
> Add nothing. Dilute nothing.
>
>The OP said: Manwich is almost too sweet for me. Not too sweet,
>"almost" too sweet. WTF is that supposed to mean?

It means you are a testy bitch, bitch. Is it that "time of the
month"? And if I mistakenly tagged you as a woman, then stop acting
like one on the rag.

On Jul 10, 3:00*am, Pringles CheezUms > wrote:
> >> I'm looking for a good sloppy joe recipe.
> >...
> >But you asked this same question three years ago and didn't like the
> >advice then, so I don't know why I'm bringing it up again.
>
> Wow. Someone saw and remembered!
> Yeah, you're right. I didn't get a good savory sloppy joe recipe then.
> The reason I ask again is things change. There might be new people with
> new ideas, old people find new things. Probably should ask every year,
> really.
> If I were more experienced, I might be able to work up something that
> works for me. But I'm not, so I ask.
>
> >Have you tried Manwich Bold?
>
> I'll *probably try it, thanks.
>
> But hopefully I can find something to make from scratch.
>
> Thanks for you input.

My granddaughter likes just catsup and yellow mustard for her manwich
sauce - I like diced onions and some pickle relish. But I also like
Original Manwich. Bite me. Or the Sloppy Joe, whichever. ;-)

N.

On Jul 10, 8:52*am, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> "Pringles CheezUms" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > I'm looking for a good sloppy joe recipe.
>
> > I like savory sloppy's better than sweet, so if it has more than a small
> > bit of brown sugar, ketchup, bbq sauce or other kinds of sweetener,
> > well I'm glad you enjoy it but I probably won't. Manwich is almost too
> > sweet for me.
> > If anyone knows McCormick sloppy joe spice mix, that's what I'm trying
> > to get a homemade version of.
>
> > So please help find a good sloppy joe recipe!
>
> Oh fer crying out loud. *Ground beef (cooked and drained, of course), a can
> of Campbell's tomato soup diluted with a can of water. *Add some chili
> powder and a dash of cayenne pepper. *Simmer gently until there's very
> little liquid remaining but it's... well the name says it all... "sloppy"..
> Serve it on hamburger buns. *There's no need to make this complicated with a
> thousand herbs or spices. *And certainly no need to add sugar to the mix.

On 2011-07-11, Nancy2 > wrote:

> sauce - I like diced onions and some pickle relish. But I also like
> Original Manwich. Bite me. Or the Sloppy Joe, whichever. ;-)

I started eating sloppy joes at our school cafeteria when I was about
6-7, back in the 50s (vague enough? . This was back when lunch was
a quarter and milk an additional nickel. Anyway.... it's originally
from Hunt's Foods. I suspect Hunt's was making this exact same canned
sauce back when I was a kid, only in #10 cans, cuz it tastes exactly
the same to me.

I did eat some sloppy joe's, homemade by a friends wife, that were
different, yet very good. It had whole corn kernels and bits of onion
and grn ppr. Very tasty, to say the least. SJs really are open to
huge variation. I always put, at the very least!, fresh onions in my
Manwich SJs. Otherwise, that canned goodness in close to perfection,
IMO.

nb

On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:08:48 -0400, "Corndog" >
wrote:

>
>
> "sf" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On 10 Jul 2011 13:57:33 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
> > On 2011-07-10, jmcquown > wrote:
> >
> > > powder and a dash of cayenne pepper....
> >
> > > There's no need to make this complicated with a
> >
> > Which you are also doing. Buy damn can of Manwich and mix in
> > burger.
> > Add nothing. Dilute nothing.
> >
> >The OP said: Manwich is almost too sweet for me. Not too sweet,
> >"almost" too sweet. WTF is that supposed to mean?
>
> It means you are a testy bitch, bitch. Is it that "time of the
> month"? And if I mistakenly tagged you as a woman, then stop acting
> like one on the rag.
>
All that blithering and yet you can't answer a simple question.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 10:55:52 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:

> sf wrote:
> > On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 21:13:32 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
> >
> >> Speaking of such... I was just eating a nectarine--or I started
> >> to eat one, and then started thinking its flesh tasted like
> >> pesticides. I have never thought that about anything before, so
> >> it was kind-of odd. But then it makes sense, doesn't it? I guess
> >> the nectarine will just have to try to follow its biological destiny.
> >
> > Sometimes I have a metallic taste in my mouth, but the dentist says
> > there's no reason for it.
> >
> Odd. There must be a reason.

I think so too.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

sf wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 10:55:52 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>>> On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 21:13:32 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Speaking of such... I was just eating a nectarine--or I started
>>>> to eat one, and then started thinking its flesh tasted like
>>>> pesticides. I have never thought that about anything before, so
>>>> it was kind-of odd. But then it makes sense, doesn't it? I guess
>>>> the nectarine will just have to try to follow its biological destiny.
>>> Sometimes I have a metallic taste in my mouth, but the dentist says
>>> there's no reason for it.
>>>
>> Odd. There must be a reason.
>
> I think so too.
>
I don't like these things that have no concrete answers--until the
reason becomes more obvious.

--
Jean B.

On 7/10/2011 11:42 PM, projectile vomit chick wrote:

> OMG! I have an old Crock Pot manual from around then, is this the
> recipe? From page 25:
>
> Sloppy Joes
>
> 3 lbs gound chuck or hamburger
> 2 onions, finely chopped
> 1 green pepper, seeded and chopped (optional)
> 2 8-oz cans tomato sauce
> 1 8-oz can water
> 2 packages sloppy joe seasoning
> salt to taste
>
> Brown ground meat in skillet, pour into colander and rinse well. Put
> into Crock-Pot, add onions, green pepper, tomato sauce and water.
> Stir thoroughly. Salt to taste. Cover and cook on Low 8 to 10
> hours.
>
When do you put in the sloppy joe seasoning?

On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:13:06 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:

>sf wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 10:55:52 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>>
>>> sf wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 21:13:32 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Speaking of such... I was just eating a nectarine--or I started
>>>>> to eat one, and then started thinking its flesh tasted like
>>>>> pesticides. I have never thought that about anything before, so
>>>>> it was kind-of odd. But then it makes sense, doesn't it? I guess
>>>>> the nectarine will just have to try to follow its biological destiny.
>>>> Sometimes I have a metallic taste in my mouth, but the dentist says
>>>> there's no reason for it.
>>>>
>>> Odd. There must be a reason.
>>
>> I think so too.
>>
>I don't like these things that have no concrete answers--until the
>reason becomes more obvious.

Plus, if you ask 5 dentists about anything, you'll get 5 different
answers. Some dentists are a stupid as a rock. Everyone has heard of
the students who are "First in their class". Well, there are always
the students who were the last in their class also. Those are the
stupid ones. Trust what they tell you? No way. Always get at least a
second opinion or even a third and forth on anything that is really
important. Spend the extra couple hundred dollars to make sure you
know the real story. Especially if they want to cut you.

Robert Payne wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:13:06 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>>> On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 10:55:52 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>>>
>>>> sf wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 21:13:32 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Speaking of such... I was just eating a nectarine--or I started
>>>>>> to eat one, and then started thinking its flesh tasted like
>>>>>> pesticides. I have never thought that about anything before, so
>>>>>> it was kind-of odd. But then it makes sense, doesn't it? I guess
>>>>>> the nectarine will just have to try to follow its biological destiny.
>>>>> Sometimes I have a metallic taste in my mouth, but the dentist says
>>>>> there's no reason for it.
>>>>>
>>>> Odd. There must be a reason.
>>> I think so too.
>>>
>> I don't like these things that have no concrete answers--until the
>> reason becomes more obvious.
>
> Plus, if you ask 5 dentists about anything, you'll get 5 different
> answers. Some dentists are a stupid as a rock. Everyone has heard of
> the students who are "First in their class". Well, there are always
> the students who were the last in their class also. Those are the
> stupid ones. Trust what they tell you? No way. Always get at least a
> second opinion or even a third and forth on anything that is really
> important. Spend the extra couple hundred dollars to make sure you
> know the real story. Especially if they want to cut you.

Don't even remind me of the ramifications of such things. My
long-time dentist blew my symptoms off for years. The end result
was rather ugly....

--
Jean B.

On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 05:15:29 -0400, jmcquown wrote:

> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 09:52:24 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> Oh fer crying out loud. Ground beef (cooked and drained, of course), a
>>> can
>>> of Campbell's tomato soup diluted with a can of water. Add some chili
>>> powder and a dash of cayenne pepper. Simmer gently until there's very
>>> little liquid remaining but it's... well the name says it all...
>>> "sloppy".
>>> Serve it on hamburger buns. There's no need to make this complicated
>>> with a
>>> thousand herbs or spices. And certainly no need to add sugar to the mix.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> that sounds like a pretty cruddy sloppy joe to me.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>>
> Sloppy Joes are supposed to be cruddy
>
> Jill

it's like a shaggy dog story:

'not *that* cruddy!'

your pal,
blake

On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 13:17:25 -0500, Ms P wrote:

> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 09:52:24 -0400, "jmcquown" >
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>Oh fer crying out loud. Ground beef (cooked and drained, of course), a
>>>can
>>>of Campbell's tomato soup diluted with a can of water. Add some chili
>>>powder and a dash of cayenne pepper. Simmer gently until there's very
>>>little liquid remaining but it's... well the name says it all... "sloppy".
>>>Serve it on hamburger buns. There's no need to make this complicated with
>>>a
>>>thousand herbs or spices. And certainly no need to add sugar to the mix.
>>>
>>>Jill
>>
>> O.k., Jill, now we are in sync. I think it was originally a
>> Campbell's 1940's tomato soup recipe. Why make it complicated? Some
>> ground beef, maybe a little celery, onion, bell pepper if it floats
>> your boat. Salt and pepper or chili powder. Done.
>> Janet US
>
> The sloppy Joe recipe in the Betty Crocker cookbook uses Campbell's Chicken
> Gumbo soup.
>
> Ms P

dear god.

your pal,
blake

On 2011-07-11, Nancy2 > wrote:

> Canned tomato soup? Really? Do people really make Sloppy Joe sauce
> like that? I've never heard of it.

The same ppl that make speghetti sauce using tomato soup.

nb

Nancy2 wrote:
> On Jul 10, 8:52 am, "jmcquown" > wrote:

>> Oh fer crying out loud. Ground beef (cooked and drained, of course), a can
>> of Campbell's tomato soup diluted with a can of water. Add some chili
>> powder and a dash of cayenne pepper. Simmer gently until there's very
>> little liquid remaining but it's... well the name says it all... "sloppy".
>> Serve it on hamburger buns. There's no need to make this complicated with a
>> thousand herbs or spices. And certainly no need to add sugar to the mix.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Canned tomato soup? Really? Do people really make Sloppy Joe sauce
> like that? I've never heard of it.
>
> N.

Nor have I, but know its just a huge amount of sugar in it. Jill's last
sentence should have read "And certainly no need to add more sugar to
the mix cause its already in the soup."

I've made Sloppy Joes probably twice in my married life. They were okay.
I recall the recipe was from Joy of Cooking, so since its close at hand
I will copy-

Sloppy Joes (pg 490 in the 1975 edition)
Heat in skillet:
2 T. butter
Add and saute:
1/2 cup minced onion
1/2 cup chopped celery
1/2 cup chopped green pepper, seeds and membrane removed
When these are limp, add:
1 1/2 pounds ground beef
Cook and stir until meat is lightly browned. Add:
1/2 cup chopped mushrooms
4 T. chili sauce
1/2 cup water
Season to taste
Simmer uncovered over low heat about 15 minutes until thickened enough
to spoon onto:
8 lightly toasted sandwich buns

On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:42:42 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:

>> Plus, if you ask 5 dentists about anything, you'll get 5 different
>> answers. Some dentists are a stupid as a rock. Everyone has heard of
>> the students who are "First in their class". Well, there are always
>> the students who were the last in their class also. Those are the
>> stupid ones. Trust what they tell you? No way. Always get at least a
>> second opinion or even a third and forth on anything that is really
>> important. Spend the extra couple hundred dollars to make sure you
>> know the real story. Especially if they want to cut you.
>
>Don't even remind me of the ramifications of such things. My
>long-time dentist blew my symptoms off for years. The end result
>was rather ugly....

I can just bet it made the dentist a lot of your money, and the
dentist didn't feel a thing. Dentists are like used car salesmen.
They'll do or say anything to get more of your money.

On 7/11/2011 10:30 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
> On Jul 10, 8:52 am, > wrote:
>> "Pringles > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>>> I'm looking for a good sloppy joe recipe.
>>
>>> I like savory sloppy's better than sweet, so if it has more than a small
>>> bit of brown sugar, ketchup, bbq sauce or other kinds of sweetener,
>>> well I'm glad you enjoy it but I probably won't. Manwich is almost too
>>> sweet for me.
>>> If anyone knows McCormick sloppy joe spice mix, that's what I'm trying
>>> to get a homemade version of.
>>
>>> So please help find a good sloppy joe recipe!
>>
>> Oh fer crying out loud. Ground beef (cooked and drained, of course), a can
>> of Campbell's tomato soup diluted with a can of water. Add some chili
>> powder and a dash of cayenne pepper. Simmer gently until there's very
>> little liquid remaining but it's... well the name says it all... "sloppy".
>> Serve it on hamburger buns. There's no need to make this complicated with a
>> thousand herbs or spices. And certainly no need to add sugar to the mix.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Canned tomato soup? Really? Do people really make Sloppy Joe sauce
> like that? I've never heard of it.

My mom always made Sloppy Joes using Campbell's vegetable (alphabet
noodles!) soup. Very bland, but we didn't know any better and
cheerfully ate it. Nowadays I prefer to just use a good barbecue
sauce, stirred into ground beef sauteed with coarsely chopped onions
and bell peppers.

sf wrote:
>
> Sometimes I have a metallic taste in my mouth, but the dentist says
> there's no reason for it.

There are plenty of possible causes. One is low carbing. Run out of
stored carbs in the body and there is a switch to burning fat as the
main fuel. The slow fat burning path is to convert the fatty acids to
actyl-CoA which is used directly in the mitrochondria. That path does
not produce the smell. That path is the only one used to burn fat when
there are stored carbs present. The fast path is to convert the fatty
acids to several types of ketones. One ketone is acetone and that's the
one that puts a taste in the mouth. Some call it metallic, some call it
garlicy, some call it sour. Dragon breath. It can happen in the
morning if you had a low carb dinner. If this is the cause it's not a
problem. Natural result of a successful predator diet or of a fast.

On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 15:25:41 -0400, Goomba >
wrote:

>Nancy2 wrote:
>> On Jul 10, 8:52 am, "jmcquown" > wrote:
>
>>> Oh fer crying out loud. Ground beef (cooked and drained, of course), a can
>>> of Campbell's tomato soup diluted with a can of water. Add some chili
>>> powder and a dash of cayenne pepper. Simmer gently until there's very
>>> little liquid remaining but it's... well the name says it all... "sloppy".
>>> Serve it on hamburger buns. There's no need to make this complicated with a
>>> thousand herbs or spices. And certainly no need to add sugar to the mix.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Canned tomato soup? Really? Do people really make Sloppy Joe sauce
>> like that? I've never heard of it.
>>
>> N.
>
>Nor have I, but know its just a huge amount of sugar in it. Jill's last
>sentence should have read "And certainly no need to add more sugar to
>the mix cause its already in the soup."
>
>I've made Sloppy Joes probably twice in my married life. They were okay.
>I recall the recipe was from Joy of Cooking.

I'm old enough to remember when the term Sloppy Joe wasn't invented
yet. For me sloppy joe is a hijacking of American Chop Suey, but on a
bun instead of elbow macaroni.
http://www.cdkitchen.com/recipes/rec...uey69032.shtml

On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:22:15 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger
> wrote:

> sf wrote:
> >
> > Sometimes I have a metallic taste in my mouth, but the dentist says
> > there's no reason for it.
>
> There are plenty of possible causes. One is low carbing. Run out of
> stored carbs in the body and there is a switch to burning fat as the
> main fuel. The slow fat burning path is to convert the fatty acids to
> actyl-CoA which is used directly in the mitrochondria. That path does
> not produce the smell. That path is the only one used to burn fat when
> there are stored carbs present. The fast path is to convert the fatty
> acids to several types of ketones. One ketone is acetone and that's the
> one that puts a taste in the mouth. Some call it metallic, some call it
> garlicy, some call it sour. Dragon breath. It can happen in the
> morning if you had a low carb dinner. If this is the cause it's not a
> problem. Natural result of a successful predator diet or of a fast.

Thanks. I don't low carb on purpose, but it happens occasionally -
however the taste wasn't dragon breath, it was a real metallic taste.
I haven't had gotten it in a long time, so whatever was wrong "isn't"
anymore I guess.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

Brooklyn1 wrote:

> I'm old enough to remember when the term Sloppy Joe wasn't invented
> yet. For me sloppy joe is a hijacking of American Chop Suey, but on a
> bun instead of elbow macaroni.
> http://www.cdkitchen.com/recipes/rec...uey69032.shtml
>
I've never had that, but isn't it also sometimes called
<something>Marzetti or some such name? I recall reading about it here
years ago.

On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:12:38 -0400, Goomba >
wrote:

>Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> I'm old enough to remember when the term Sloppy Joe wasn't invented
>> yet. For me sloppy joe is a hijacking of American Chop Suey, but on a
>> bun instead of elbow macaroni.
>> http://www.cdkitchen.com/recipes/rec...uey69032.shtml
>>
>I've never had that, but isn't it also sometimes called
><something>Marzetti or some such name? I recall reading about it here
>years ago.

There's nothing new about ground beef in tomato sauce with onions,
peppers and various other ingredients... a loose version on toast is
called SOS.

"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
news
> On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:12:38 -0400, Goomba >
> wrote:
>
>>Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>>> I'm old enough to remember when the term Sloppy Joe wasn't invented
>>> yet. For me sloppy joe is a hijacking of American Chop Suey, but on a
>>> bun instead of elbow macaroni.
>>> http://www.cdkitchen.com/recipes/rec...uey69032.shtml
>>>
>>I've never had that, but isn't it also sometimes called
>><something>Marzetti or some such name? I recall reading about it here
>>years ago.
>
> There's nothing new about ground beef in tomato sauce with onions,
> peppers and various other ingredients... a loose version on toast is
> called SOS.

I thought that was creamed chipped beef?

Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:

> There's nothing new about ground beef in tomato sauce with onions,
> peppers and various other ingredients... a loose version on toast is
> called SOS.

In the navy and elsewhere SOS (shit-on-a-shingle) was, of course, chipped
beef on toast.

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On Jul 11, 11:23*am, Cheryl > wrote:
> On 7/10/2011 11:42 PM, projectile vomit chick wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > OMG! *I have an old Crock Pot manual from around then, is this the
> > recipe? *From page 25:
>
> > Sloppy Joes
>
> > 3 lbs gound chuck or hamburger
> > 2 onions, finely chopped
> > 1 green pepper, seeded and chopped (optional)
> > 2 8-oz cans tomato sauce
> > 1 8-oz can water
> > 2 packages sloppy joe seasoning
> > salt to taste
>
> > Brown ground meat in skillet, pour into colander and rinse well. *Put
> > into Crock-Pot, add onions, green pepper, tomato sauce and water.
> > Stir thoroughly. *Salt to taste. *Cover and cook on Low 8 to 10
> > hours.
>
> When do you put in the sloppy joe seasoning?

Ha! It doesn't say and I didn't notice that, sorry. I suppose one
would throw it in with all the other ingredients.

On Jul 11, 9:55*am, "Jean B." > wrote:
> sf wrote:
> > On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 21:13:32 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
> >> Speaking of such... *I was just eating a nectarine--or I started
> >> to eat one, and then started thinking its flesh tasted like
> >> pesticides. *I have never thought that about anything before, so
> >> it was kind-of odd. *But then it makes sense, doesn't it? *I guess
> >> the nectarine will just have to try to follow its biological destiny.
>
> > Sometimes I have a metallic taste in my mouth, but the dentist says
> > there's no reason for it.
>
> Odd. *There must be a reason.

Could be a brain tumor. Aw, c'mon, have a sense of tumor.
>
> --
> Jean B.

--Bryan

On 2011-07-12, Hackmatack > wrote:

> In the navy and elsewhere SOS (shit-on-a-shingle) was, of course, chipped
> beef on toast.

Perhaps, at one time. By time I joined the the service (USAF'66), it
was ground beef.

nb

On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:23:32 -0500, heyjoe >
wrote:
>
> Locally, we're a couple of weeks from tomato and pepper season, peak season
> a month away. Please point me to a tried and true recipe for chili sauce
> from scratch (my googlefu is sufficient to find the top rated chili sauces
> - but those recipes are a far cry from something that RFC'ers make and
> like).
>
> Hell yes, I'm lazy, but would prefer to use store bought chili sauce in the
> off season. Home made chili sauce sounds great, when ingredients are in
> season.

I haven't made chili sauce very often and haven't made it in a long
time, but here's the recipe I used. It was very good. I didn't have
a vegetable garden, so it wasn't worth the expense or work for me -
but it was very tasty. I have *one* tomato plant this year. Maybe
it will produce a lot of tomatoes and I'll need to make chili sauce.
If I end up with lots of green tomatoes, I saw a green tomato and
tomatillo something or other recently that I'll try to find.


Chili Sauce

1 peck tomatoes
1 qt onions
1 lb celery
3 sweet green peppers

Scald and skin tomatoes and cook 15 minutes. Drain off some of the
juice. Chop the other vegetables, add to the tomatoes and cook 90
minutes.

Add the following:

1.5 tsp ground cloves
1 T mustard seeds
2 cinnamon sticks (I would use 1 Tb. ground cinnamon now)
2 lbs brown sugar
1/4 cup salt
1 quart cider vinegar

Put the spices in a bag or tea ball, then boil all ingredients
together another 90 minutes or until the vegetables are soft

Seal in hot, sterilized jars.

Makes 6 pints

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On 12 Jul 2011 01:19:46 GMT, notbob > wrote:

> On 2011-07-12, Hackmatack > wrote:
>
> > In the navy and elsewhere SOS (shit-on-a-shingle) was, of course, chipped
> > beef on toast.
>
> Perhaps, at one time. By time I joined the the service (USAF'66), it
> was ground beef.
>
I think he has the navy and the air force (army air corps) confused.

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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:22:15 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger
> > wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>> >
>> > Sometimes I have a metallic taste in my mouth, but the dentist says
>> > there's no reason for it.
>>
>> There are plenty of possible causes. One is low carbing. Run out of
>> stored carbs in the body and there is a switch to burning fat as the
>> main fuel. The slow fat burning path is to convert the fatty acids to
>> actyl-CoA which is used directly in the mitrochondria. That path does
>> not produce the smell. That path is the only one used to burn fat when
>> there are stored carbs present. The fast path is to convert the fatty
>> acids to several types of ketones. One ketone is acetone and that's the
>> one that puts a taste in the mouth. Some call it metallic, some call it
>> garlicy, some call it sour. Dragon breath. It can happen in the
>> morning if you had a low carb dinner. If this is the cause it's not a
>> problem. Natural result of a successful predator diet or of a fast.
>
> Thanks. I don't low carb on purpose, but it happens occasionally -
> however the taste wasn't dragon breath, it was a real metallic taste.
> I haven't had gotten it in a long time, so whatever was wrong "isn't"
> anymore I guess.
>
> --
>
> Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

Hormonal/estrogen fluctuations as well as reflux and certain medications
(like antidepressants) can cause a metallic taste as well.

Jinx

Robert Payne wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:42:42 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>>> Plus, if you ask 5 dentists about anything, you'll get 5 different
>>> answers. Some dentists are a stupid as a rock. Everyone has heard of
>>> the students who are "First in their class". Well, there are always
>>> the students who were the last in their class also. Those are the
>>> stupid ones. Trust what they tell you? No way. Always get at least a
>>> second opinion or even a third and forth on anything that is really
>>> important. Spend the extra couple hundred dollars to make sure you
>>> know the real story. Especially if they want to cut you.
>> Don't even remind me of the ramifications of such things. My
>> long-time dentist blew my symptoms off for years. The end result
>> was rather ugly....
>
> I can just bet it made the dentist a lot of your money, and the
> dentist didn't feel a thing. Dentists are like used car salesmen.
> They'll do or say anything to get more of your money.

It ended up making him no money. I never saw him again. He
called to see how I was after I ended up in the emergency room
after he told me it was TMJ, which I didn't believe for one
second. That's just part of the story.

--
Jean B.

>> If anyone knows McCormick sloppy joe spice mix, that's what I'm trying
>> to get a homemade version of.
>
>Don't have any idea what McCormick's sloppy joe mix tastes like, as I use
>the following -
>
>1 TBSP instant minced onion
>1 tsp green pepper flakes
>1/2 tsp salt
>1 tsp cornstarch
>1/2 tsp garlic powder
>1/2 tsp dry mustard
>1/4 tsp celery seed
>1/4 tsp chili powder
>
>Mix well in a small bowl.
>
>Brown 1 lb of ground beef (or whatever meat you prefer). Add
>1/2 C. water
>1 - 8 oz. can of tomato sauce
>spice mixture from above
>
>Simmer at least 10 minutes or to desired thickness.
>
>Might not meet your taste requirements, but may serve as a starting point
>for your own creation.

Thanks. This is the best idea yet.

On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 23:24:44 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:

>Robert Payne wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:42:42 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>>
>>>> Plus, if you ask 5 dentists about anything, you'll get 5 different
>>>> answers. Some dentists are a stupid as a rock. Everyone has heard of
>>>> the students who are "First in their class". Well, there are always
>>>> the students who were the last in their class also. Those are the
>>>> stupid ones. Trust what they tell you? No way. Always get at least a
>>>> second opinion or even a third and forth on anything that is really
>>>> important. Spend the extra couple hundred dollars to make sure you
>>>> know the real story. Especially if they want to cut you.
>>> Don't even remind me of the ramifications of such things. My
>>> long-time dentist blew my symptoms off for years. The end result
>>> was rather ugly....
>>
>> I can just bet it made the dentist a lot of your money, and the
>> dentist didn't feel a thing. Dentists are like used car salesmen.
>> They'll do or say anything to get more of your money.
>
>It ended up making him no money. I never saw him again. He
>called to see how I was after I ended up in the emergency room
>after he told me it was TMJ, which I didn't believe for one
>second. That's just part of the story.

What is TMJ?

"Robert Payne" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 23:24:44 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>>Robert Payne wrote:
>>> On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:42:42 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Plus, if you ask 5 dentists about anything, you'll get 5 different
>>>>> answers. Some dentists are a stupid as a rock. Everyone has heard of
>>>>> the students who are "First in their class". Well, there are always
>>>>> the students who were the last in their class also. Those are the
>>>>> stupid ones. Trust what they tell you? No way. Always get at least a
>>>>> second opinion or even a third and forth on anything that is really
>>>>> important. Spend the extra couple hundred dollars to make sure you
>>>>> know the real story. Especially if they want to cut you.
>>>> Don't even remind me of the ramifications of such things. My
>>>> long-time dentist blew my symptoms off for years. The end result
>>>> was rather ugly....
>>>
>>> I can just bet it made the dentist a lot of your money, and the
>>> dentist didn't feel a thing. Dentists are like used car salesmen.
>>> They'll do or say anything to get more of your money.
>>
>>It ended up making him no money. I never saw him again. He
>>called to see how I was after I ended up in the emergency room
>>after he told me it was TMJ, which I didn't believe for one
>>second. That's just part of the story.
>
> What is TMJ?

I can't remember the exact words that it stands for but it's a painful
condition of the jaw.

On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 23:24:44 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:

> he told me it was TMJ

TMJ?

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