I'm looking for a good sloppy joe recipe.

I like savory sloppy's better than sweet, so if it has more than a small
bit of brown sugar, ketchup, bbq sauce or other kinds of sweetener,
well I'm glad you enjoy it but I probably won't. Manwich is almost too
sweet for me.
If anyone knows McCormick sloppy joe spice mix, that's what I'm trying
to get a homemade version of.

So please help find a good sloppy joe recipe!

On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 20:00:50 -0500, Pringles CheezUms
> wrote:

> I'm looking for a good sloppy joe recipe.
>
> I like savory sloppy's better than sweet, so if it has more than a small
> bit of brown sugar, ketchup, bbq sauce or other kinds of sweetener,
> well I'm glad you enjoy it but I probably won't. Manwich is almost too
> sweet for me.
> If anyone knows McCormick sloppy joe spice mix, that's what I'm trying
> to get a homemade version of.
>
> So please help find a good sloppy joe recipe!

I like Manwich (from a packet) but I haven't made it in years, so I
don't know if their recipe is different now or not. Looking up
Copycat +McCormick sloppy joe recipe, this was the first one that came
up.

1 pound ground beef
1 Tablespoon oil
2 cups chopped onion (remember yellow onions are the sweetest)
4 cloves fresh garlic-finely minced
1/2-3/4 teaspoon fresh ground black pepper
1 cup tomato ketchup*
1 cup diced green bell pepper (I'd use less)
1/4 cup red wine (water or beef stock would be a better choice)
1 Tablespoon light brown sugar
1 Tablespoon prepared yellow mustard
1 Tablespoon white vinegar
1 Tablespoon Worcestershire Sauce (seems like too much, try 1 tsp)
1 teaspoon chili powder-if unavailable omit (I'd leave it out)

Pre-heat a heavy skillet add the oil and cook the beef, onion and
garlic over medium high heat until beef is browned and onion is
tender. Drain excess fat and oil, then add the remaining ingredients
and simmer over low heat for 45-60 minutes. If the mixture isn’t as
thick as you like when the cooking time is up, uncover and simmer
until thickened. If mixture is too thick add a little water or some
more wine.

* If you think that ketchup will make it too sweet, substitute tomato
sauce and then substitute vegetable stock for the wine.



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Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 20:00:50 -0500, Pringles CheezUms
> > wrote:
>
>> I'm looking for a good sloppy joe recipe.
>>
>> I like savory sloppy's better than sweet, so if it has more than a small
>> bit of brown sugar, ketchup, bbq sauce or other kinds of sweetener,
>> well I'm glad you enjoy it but I probably won't. Manwich is almost too
>> sweet for me.
>> If anyone knows McCormick sloppy joe spice mix, that's what I'm trying
>> to get a homemade version of.
>>
>> So please help find a good sloppy joe recipe!
>
> I like Manwich (from a packet) but I haven't made it in years, so I
> don't know if their recipe is different now or not. Looking up
> Copycat +McCormick sloppy joe recipe, this was the first one that came
> up.
>
> 1 pound ground beef
> 1 Tablespoon oil
> 2 cups chopped onion (remember yellow onions are the sweetest)
> 4 cloves fresh garlic-finely minced
> 1/2-3/4 teaspoon fresh ground black pepper
> 1 cup tomato ketchup*
> 1 cup diced green bell pepper (I'd use less)
> 1/4 cup red wine (water or beef stock would be a better choice)
> 1 Tablespoon light brown sugar
> 1 Tablespoon prepared yellow mustard
> 1 Tablespoon white vinegar
> 1 Tablespoon Worcestershire Sauce (seems like too much, try 1 tsp)
> 1 teaspoon chili powder-if unavailable omit (I'd leave it out)
>
> Pre-heat a heavy skillet add the oil and cook the beef, onion and
> garlic over medium high heat until beef is browned and onion is
> tender. Drain excess fat and oil, then add the remaining ingredients
> and simmer over low heat for 45-60 minutes. If the mixture isn't as
> thick as you like when the cooking time is up, uncover and simmer
> until thickened. If mixture is too thick add a little water or some
> more wine.
>
> * If you think that ketchup will make it too sweet, substitute tomato
> sauce and then substitute vegetable stock for the wine.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.


Oh My, The last time I opened a can of Manwich I ended up tossing it in
the garbage. Maybe I wasn't drunk enough to enjoy it

On Jul 9, 11:33*pm, "Mike" > wrote:
> "sf" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 20:00:50 -0500, Pringles CheezUms
> > > wrote:
>
> >> I'm looking for a good sloppy joe recipe.
>
> >> I like savory sloppy's better than sweet, so if it has more than a small
> >> bit of brown sugar, ketchup, bbq sauce or other kinds of sweetener,
> >> well I'm glad you enjoy it but I probably won't. Manwich is almost too
> >> sweet for me.
> >> If anyone knows McCormick sloppy joe spice mix, that's what I'm trying
> >> to get a homemade version of.
>
> >> So please help find a good sloppy joe recipe!
>
> > I like Manwich (from a packet) but I haven't made it in years, so I
> > don't know if their recipe is different now or not. *Looking up
> > Copycat +McCormick sloppy joe recipe, this was the first one that came
> > up.
>
> > 1 pound ground beef
> > 1 Tablespoon oil
> > 2 cups chopped onion (remember yellow onions are the sweetest)
> > 4 cloves fresh garlic-finely minced
> > 1/2-3/4 teaspoon fresh ground black pepper
> > 1 cup tomato ketchup*
> > 1 cup diced green bell pepper (I'd use less)
> > 1/4 cup red wine *(water or beef stock would be a better choice)
> > 1 Tablespoon light brown sugar
> > 1 Tablespoon prepared yellow mustard
> > 1 Tablespoon white vinegar
> > 1 Tablespoon Worcestershire Sauce (seems like too much, try 1 tsp)
> > 1 teaspoon chili powder-if unavailable omit (I'd leave it out)
>
> > Pre-heat a heavy skillet add the oil and cook the beef, onion and
> > garlic over medium high heat until beef is browned and onion is
> > tender. *Drain excess fat and oil, then add the remaining ingredients
> > and simmer over low heat for 45-60 minutes. If the mixture isn't as
> > thick as you like when the cooking time is up, uncover and simmer
> > until thickened. If mixture is too thick add a little water or some
> > more wine.
>
> > * If you think that ketchup will make it too sweet, substitute tomato
> > sauce and then substitute vegetable stock for the wine.
>
> > --
>
> > Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
>
> Oh My, *The last time I opened a can of Manwich *I ended up tossing it in
> the garbage. *Maybe I wasn't drunk enough to enjoy it

I bought some cans of it because I had coupons that made it almost
free. After one can, I donated the rest of them to a food pantry. I
ate the Manwich stuff I made because I hate wasting food, but I didn't
enjoy it.

--Bryan

On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 17:01:29 -0700 (PDT), Bryan
> wrote:

> On Jul 9, 11:33*pm, "Mike" > wrote:

> >
> > Oh My, *The last time I opened a can of Manwich *I ended up tossing it in
> > the garbage. *Maybe I wasn't drunk enough to enjoy it
>
> I bought some cans of it because I had coupons that made it almost
> free. After one can, I donated the rest of them to a food pantry. I
> ate the Manwich stuff I made because I hate wasting food, but I didn't
> enjoy it.
>
I notice that people who say they don't like it open up cans. I think
I tried a can once and didn't like it either. Try the package and get
back to me.



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Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

"Pringles CheezUms" > wrote in message
...
> I'm looking for a good sloppy joe recipe.
>
> I like savory sloppy's better than sweet, so if it has more than a small
> bit of brown sugar, ketchup, bbq sauce or other kinds of sweetener,
> well I'm glad you enjoy it but I probably won't. Manwich is almost too
> sweet for me.
> If anyone knows McCormick sloppy joe spice mix, that's what I'm trying
> to get a homemade version of.
>
> So please help find a good sloppy joe recipe!

Oh fer crying out loud. Ground beef (cooked and drained, of course), a can
of Campbell's tomato soup diluted with a can of water. Add some chili
powder and a dash of cayenne pepper. Simmer gently until there's very
little liquid remaining but it's... well the name says it all... "sloppy".
Serve it on hamburger buns. There's no need to make this complicated with a
thousand herbs or spices. And certainly no need to add sugar to the mix.

Jill

On 2011-07-10, jmcquown > wrote:

> powder and a dash of cayenne pepper....

> There's no need to make this complicated with a

Which you are also doing. Buy damn can of Manwich and mix in burger.
Add nothing. Dilute nothing.

nb

On 10 Jul 2011 13:57:33 GMT, notbob > wrote:

> On 2011-07-10, jmcquown > wrote:
>
> > powder and a dash of cayenne pepper....
>
> > There's no need to make this complicated with a
>
> Which you are also doing. Buy damn can of Manwich and mix in burger.
> Add nothing. Dilute nothing.
>
The OP said: Manwich is almost too sweet for me. Not too sweet,
"almost" too sweet. WTF is that supposed to mean?


--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

"sf" wrote in message
...

On 10 Jul 2011 13:57:33 GMT, notbob > wrote:

> On 2011-07-10, jmcquown > wrote:
>
> > powder and a dash of cayenne pepper....
>
> > There's no need to make this complicated with a
>
> Which you are also doing. Buy damn can of Manwich and mix in
> burger.
> Add nothing. Dilute nothing.
>
>The OP said: Manwich is almost too sweet for me. Not too sweet,
>"almost" too sweet. WTF is that supposed to mean?

It means you are a testy bitch, bitch. Is it that "time of the
month"? And if I mistakenly tagged you as a woman, then stop acting
like one on the rag.

On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:08:48 -0400, "Corndog" >
wrote:

>
>
> "sf" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On 10 Jul 2011 13:57:33 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
> > On 2011-07-10, jmcquown > wrote:
> >
> > > powder and a dash of cayenne pepper....
> >
> > > There's no need to make this complicated with a
> >
> > Which you are also doing. Buy damn can of Manwich and mix in
> > burger.
> > Add nothing. Dilute nothing.
> >
> >The OP said: Manwich is almost too sweet for me. Not too sweet,
> >"almost" too sweet. WTF is that supposed to mean?
>
> It means you are a testy bitch, bitch. Is it that "time of the
> month"? And if I mistakenly tagged you as a woman, then stop acting
> like one on the rag.
>
All that blithering and yet you can't answer a simple question.

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Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

"notbob" > wrote in message
...
> On 2011-07-10, jmcquown > wrote:
>
>> powder and a dash of cayenne pepper....
>
>> There's no need to make this complicated with a
>
> Which you are also doing. Buy damn can of Manwich and mix in burger.
> Add nothing. Dilute nothing.
>
> nb

The OP stated he doesn't like Manwich.

Jill

On Jul 10, 8:57*am, notbob > wrote:
> On 2011-07-10, jmcquown > wrote:
>
> > powder and a dash of cayenne pepper....
> > There's no need to make this complicated with a
>
> Which you are also doing. *Buy damn can of Manwich and mix in burger.
> Add nothing. *Dilute nothing.

And anyone with crappy enough tastes to name him/herself after
Pringles and CheezUms ought to love Manwich sloppy joes.
>
> nb

--Bryan

On Jul 10, 7:04*pm, Bryan > wrote:
> On Jul 10, 8:57*am, notbob > wrote:
>
> > On 2011-07-10, jmcquown > wrote:
>
> > > powder and a dash of cayenne pepper....
> > > There's no need to make this complicated with a
>
> > Which you are also doing. *Buy damn can of Manwich and mix in burger.
> > Add nothing. *Dilute nothing.
>
> And anyone with crappy enough tastes to name him/herself after
> Pringles and CheezUms ought to love Manwich sloppy joes.
>
>
>
> > nb
>
> --Bryan

Bryan, I was thinking about your "tastes" as I made and enjoyed
another batch of my curried chicken, which I know you'd hate. I always
say that I've never had anything gross that you've prepared and that
is true. But I've also never had anything exceptionally or creatively
spiced or flavored that you have made either! Like my curried chicken.
Your "tastes" are very simple and pedestrian, not that there is
anything wrong with that, but there is also not anything exceptionally
right with it either. Good food is inherently delicious with the most
basic of preparation methods, and this is what you excel at because of
your hypersensitive senses of smell and flavor.

I finally get it!

John Kuthe...

On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 17:14:39 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
snip
>

>Bryan, I was thinking about your "tastes" as I made and enjoyed
>another batch of my curried chicken, which I know you'd hate. I always
>say that I've never had anything gross that you've prepared and that
>is true. But I've also never had anything exceptionally or creatively
>spiced or flavored that you have made either! Like my curried chicken.
>Your "tastes" are very simple and pedestrian, not that there is
>anything wrong with that, but there is also not anything exceptionally
>right with it either. Good food is inherently delicious with the most
>basic of preparation methods, and this is what you excel at because of
>your hypersensitive senses of smell and flavor.
>
>I finally get it!
>
>John Kuthe...

Regarding hypersensitive smell, it's real. I suffered such for a
period of months and it is awful You pick up notes in foods that no
one else knows is there or you'll pick up on something so exaggerated
as to be impossible to tolerate. After living through that, I am now
very tolerant of other people's likes and dislikes. I believe that
everyone is operating with different tuning on their senses.
Janet US

screw him post the chicken recipe, Lee

"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
...
On Jul 10, 7:04 pm, Bryan > wrote:
> On Jul 10, 8:57 am, notbob > wrote:
>
> > On 2011-07-10, jmcquown > wrote:
>
> > > powder and a dash of cayenne pepper....
> > > There's no need to make this complicated with a
>
> > Which you are also doing. Buy damn can of Manwich and mix in burger.
> > Add nothing. Dilute nothing.
>
> And anyone with crappy enough tastes to name him/herself after
> Pringles and CheezUms ought to love Manwich sloppy joes.
>
>
>
> > nb
>
> --Bryan

Bryan, I was thinking about your "tastes" as I made and enjoyed
another batch of my curried chicken, which I know you'd hate. I always
say that I've never had anything gross that you've prepared and that
is true. But I've also never had anything exceptionally or creatively
spiced or flavored that you have made either! Like my curried chicken.
Your "tastes" are very simple and pedestrian, not that there is
anything wrong with that, but there is also not anything exceptionally
right with it either. Good food is inherently delicious with the most
basic of preparation methods, and this is what you excel at because of
your hypersensitive senses of smell and flavor.

I finally get it!

John Kuthe...

On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 17:04:28 -0700 (PDT), Bryan
> wrote:

> On Jul 10, 8:57*am, notbob > wrote:
> > On 2011-07-10, jmcquown > wrote:
> >
> > > powder and a dash of cayenne pepper....
> > > There's no need to make this complicated with a
> >
> > Which you are also doing. *Buy damn can of Manwich and mix in burger.
> > Add nothing. *Dilute nothing.
>
> And anyone with crappy enough tastes to name him/herself after
> Pringles and CheezUms ought to love Manwich sloppy joes.
> >
I think he's usually a troll, but I'm assuming even trolls like to eat
real food every now and then.

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Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 09:52:24 -0400, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

>
>"Pringles CheezUms" > wrote in message
.. .
>> I'm looking for a good sloppy joe recipe.
>>
>> I like savory sloppy's better than sweet, so if it has more than a small
>> bit of brown sugar, ketchup, bbq sauce or other kinds of sweetener,
>> well I'm glad you enjoy it but I probably won't. Manwich is almost too
>> sweet for me.
>> If anyone knows McCormick sloppy joe spice mix, that's what I'm trying
>> to get a homemade version of.
>>
>> So please help find a good sloppy joe recipe!
>
>Oh fer crying out loud. Ground beef (cooked and drained, of course), a can
>of Campbell's tomato soup diluted with a can of water. Add some chili
>powder and a dash of cayenne pepper. Simmer gently until there's very
>little liquid remaining but it's... well the name says it all... "sloppy".
>Serve it on hamburger buns. There's no need to make this complicated with a
>thousand herbs or spices. And certainly no need to add sugar to the mix.
>
>Jill

O.k., Jill, now we are in sync. I think it was originally a
Campbell's 1940's tomato soup recipe. Why make it complicated? Some
ground beef, maybe a little celery, onion, bell pepper if it floats
your boat. Salt and pepper or chili powder. Done.
Janet US

"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 09:52:24 -0400, "jmcquown" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Pringles CheezUms" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> I'm looking for a good sloppy joe recipe.
>>>
>>> I like savory sloppy's better than sweet, so if it has more than a small
>>> bit of brown sugar, ketchup, bbq sauce or other kinds of sweetener,
>>> well I'm glad you enjoy it but I probably won't. Manwich is almost too
>>> sweet for me.
>>> If anyone knows McCormick sloppy joe spice mix, that's what I'm trying
>>> to get a homemade version of.
>>>
>>> So please help find a good sloppy joe recipe!
>>
>>Oh fer crying out loud. Ground beef (cooked and drained, of course), a
>>can
>>of Campbell's tomato soup diluted with a can of water. Add some chili
>>powder and a dash of cayenne pepper. Simmer gently until there's very
>>little liquid remaining but it's... well the name says it all... "sloppy".
>>Serve it on hamburger buns. There's no need to make this complicated with
>>a
>>thousand herbs or spices. And certainly no need to add sugar to the mix.
>>
>>Jill
>
> O.k., Jill, now we are in sync. I think it was originally a
> Campbell's 1940's tomato soup recipe. Why make it complicated? Some
> ground beef, maybe a little celery, onion, bell pepper if it floats
> your boat. Salt and pepper or chili powder. Done.
> Janet US

The sloppy Joe recipe in the Betty Crocker cookbook uses Campbell's Chicken
Gumbo soup.

Ms P

On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 13:17:25 -0500, Ms P wrote:

> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 09:52:24 -0400, "jmcquown" >
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>Oh fer crying out loud. Ground beef (cooked and drained, of course), a
>>>can
>>>of Campbell's tomato soup diluted with a can of water. Add some chili
>>>powder and a dash of cayenne pepper. Simmer gently until there's very
>>>little liquid remaining but it's... well the name says it all... "sloppy".
>>>Serve it on hamburger buns. There's no need to make this complicated with
>>>a
>>>thousand herbs or spices. And certainly no need to add sugar to the mix.
>>>
>>>Jill
>>
>> O.k., Jill, now we are in sync. I think it was originally a
>> Campbell's 1940's tomato soup recipe. Why make it complicated? Some
>> ground beef, maybe a little celery, onion, bell pepper if it floats
>> your boat. Salt and pepper or chili powder. Done.
>> Janet US
>
> The sloppy Joe recipe in the Betty Crocker cookbook uses Campbell's Chicken
> Gumbo soup.
>
> Ms P

dear god.

your pal,
blake

"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 09:52:24 -0400, "jmcquown" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Pringles CheezUms" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> I'm looking for a good sloppy joe recipe.
>>>
>>> I like savory sloppy's better than sweet, so if it has more than a small
>>> bit of brown sugar, ketchup, bbq sauce or other kinds of sweetener,
>>> well I'm glad you enjoy it but I probably won't. Manwich is almost too
>>> sweet for me.
>>> If anyone knows McCormick sloppy joe spice mix, that's what I'm trying
>>> to get a homemade version of.
>>>
>>> So please help find a good sloppy joe recipe!
>>
>>Oh fer crying out loud. Ground beef (cooked and drained, of course), a
>>can
>>of Campbell's tomato soup diluted with a can of water. Add some chili
>>powder and a dash of cayenne pepper. Simmer gently until there's very
>>little liquid remaining but it's... well the name says it all... "sloppy".
>>Serve it on hamburger buns. There's no need to make this complicated with
>>a
>>thousand herbs or spices. And certainly no need to add sugar to the mix.
>>
>>Jill
>
> O.k., Jill, now we are in sync. I think it was originally a
> Campbell's 1940's tomato soup recipe. Why make it complicated? Some
> ground beef, maybe a little celery, onion, bell pepper if it floats
> your boat. Salt and pepper or chili powder. Done.
> Janet US

I think you're right! It was a Campbell's soup recipe! My mother cooked
with a lot of Campbell's tomato soup. That's how she made her chili. It
was the blandest chili I ever tasted. Mom grew up in Ohio; apparently they
didn't believe in spices.

Jill

On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 14:21:16 -0400, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

>
>"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 09:52:24 -0400, "jmcquown" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Pringles CheezUms" > wrote in message
...
>>>> I'm looking for a good sloppy joe recipe.
>>>>
>>>> I like savory sloppy's better than sweet, so if it has more than a small
>>>> bit of brown sugar, ketchup, bbq sauce or other kinds of sweetener,
>>>> well I'm glad you enjoy it but I probably won't. Manwich is almost too
>>>> sweet for me.
>>>> If anyone knows McCormick sloppy joe spice mix, that's what I'm trying
>>>> to get a homemade version of.
>>>>
>>>> So please help find a good sloppy joe recipe!
>>>
>>>Oh fer crying out loud. Ground beef (cooked and drained, of course), a
>>>can
>>>of Campbell's tomato soup diluted with a can of water. Add some chili
>>>powder and a dash of cayenne pepper. Simmer gently until there's very
>>>little liquid remaining but it's... well the name says it all... "sloppy".
>>>Serve it on hamburger buns. There's no need to make this complicated with
>>>a
>>>thousand herbs or spices. And certainly no need to add sugar to the mix.
>>>
>>>Jill
>>
>> O.k., Jill, now we are in sync. I think it was originally a
>> Campbell's 1940's tomato soup recipe. Why make it complicated? Some
>> ground beef, maybe a little celery, onion, bell pepper if it floats
>> your boat. Salt and pepper or chili powder. Done.
>> Janet US
>
>I think you're right! It was a Campbell's soup recipe! My mother cooked
>with a lot of Campbell's tomato soup. That's how she made her chili. It
>was the blandest chili I ever tasted. Mom grew up in Ohio; apparently they
>didn't believe in spices.
>
>Jill
People in the mid-west didn't back then. My mom used salt and pepper.
Janet US

On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 14:04:30 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

> On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 14:21:16 -0400, "jmcquown" >
> wrote:
>
> >
> >I think you're right! It was a Campbell's soup recipe! My mother cooked
> >with a lot of Campbell's tomato soup. That's how she made her chili. It
> >was the blandest chili I ever tasted. Mom grew up in Ohio; apparently they
> >didn't believe in spices.
> >
> People in the mid-west didn't back then. My mom used salt and pepper.

Mine must have been downright progressive. She used powdered garlic &
dried oregano in spaghetti sauce (which was tomato sauce from a can)
and put summer savory on her roast beef.

I remember the first time I ate chili. My mother's friend brought
over a pot made with hamburger and red kidney beans. It was
delicious, but every bite brought tears to my eyes and I had to drink
milk or maybe it was water with every bite. I don't know if she over
seasoned it or if my taste buds just weren't used to what little heat
there was. I only know we requested it after that and the subsequent
chili my mother made wasn't too hot.

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Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

Janet Bostwick wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 09:52:24 -0400, "jmcquown" >
> wrote:
>
>> "Pringles CheezUms" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> I'm looking for a good sloppy joe recipe.
>>>
>>> I like savory sloppy's better than sweet, so if it has more than a small
>>> bit of brown sugar, ketchup, bbq sauce or other kinds of sweetener,
>>> well I'm glad you enjoy it but I probably won't. Manwich is almost too
>>> sweet for me.
>>> If anyone knows McCormick sloppy joe spice mix, that's what I'm trying
>>> to get a homemade version of.
>>>
>>> So please help find a good sloppy joe recipe!
>> Oh fer crying out loud. Ground beef (cooked and drained, of course), a can
>> of Campbell's tomato soup diluted with a can of water. Add some chili
>> powder and a dash of cayenne pepper. Simmer gently until there's very
>> little liquid remaining but it's... well the name says it all... "sloppy".
>> Serve it on hamburger buns. There's no need to make this complicated with a
>> thousand herbs or spices. And certainly no need to add sugar to the mix.
>>
>> Jill
>
> O.k., Jill, now we are in sync. I think it was originally a
> Campbell's 1940's tomato soup recipe. Why make it complicated? Some
> ground beef, maybe a little celery, onion, bell pepper if it floats
> your boat. Salt and pepper or chili powder. Done.
> Janet US

Neither the Oxford Companion to American Food and Drink nor The
Dictionary of American Food and Drink were able to nail down an
origin for this. In the latter, Mariani guessed that it first
appeared in the 1960s, which is obviously not true. In the
former, there is speculation that the dish may have existed for a
while before the name was attached to it, and there are a couple
of theories about the origin of the name.

--
Jean B.

>> Oh fer crying out loud. Ground beef
>> (cooked and drained, of course), a can
>> of Campbell's tomato soup diluted with
>> a can of water. Add some chili powder
>> and a dash of cayenne pepper. Simmer
>> gently until there's very little liquid
>> remaining but it's... well the name says
>> it all... "sloppy". Serve it on hamburger
>> buns. There's no need to make this
>> complicated with a thousand herbs or
>> spices. And certainly no need to add
>> sugar to the mix.

> O.k., Jill, now we are in sync. I think it
> was originally a Campbell's 1940's
> tomato soup recipe. Why make it
> complicated? Some ground beef, maybe
> a little celery, onion, bell pepper if it
> floats your boat. Salt and pepper or chili
> powder. Done. Janet US

Add a can of kidney beans, some chili powder, and you've got my mom's
easy chili.

"Betsy" > wrote in message
...
>>> Oh fer crying out loud. Ground beef
>>> (cooked and drained, of course), a can
>>> of Campbell's tomato soup diluted with
>>> a can of water. Add some chili powder
>>> and a dash of cayenne pepper. Simmer
>>> gently until there's very little liquid
>>> remaining but it's... well the name says
>>> it all... "sloppy". Serve it on hamburger
>>> buns. There's no need to make this
>>> complicated with a thousand herbs or
>>> spices. And certainly no need to add
>>> sugar to the mix.
>
>> O.k., Jill, now we are in sync. I think it
>> was originally a Campbell's 1940's
>> tomato soup recipe. Why make it
>> complicated? Some ground beef, maybe
>> a little celery, onion, bell pepper if it
>> floats your boat. Salt and pepper or chili
>> powder. Done. Janet US
>
> Add a can of kidney beans, some chili powder, and you've got my mom's
> easy chili.
>
Is your mom from Ohio?

Jill

On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 09:52:24 -0400, jmcquown wrote:

> Oh fer crying out loud. Ground beef (cooked and drained, of course), a can
> of Campbell's tomato soup diluted with a can of water. Add some chili
> powder and a dash of cayenne pepper. Simmer gently until there's very
> little liquid remaining but it's... well the name says it all... "sloppy".
> Serve it on hamburger buns. There's no need to make this complicated with a
> thousand herbs or spices. And certainly no need to add sugar to the mix.
>
> Jill

that sounds like a pretty cruddy sloppy joe to me.

your pal,
blake

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 09:52:24 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Oh fer crying out loud. Ground beef (cooked and drained, of course), a
>> can
>> of Campbell's tomato soup diluted with a can of water. Add some chili
>> powder and a dash of cayenne pepper. Simmer gently until there's very
>> little liquid remaining but it's... well the name says it all...
>> "sloppy".
>> Serve it on hamburger buns. There's no need to make this complicated
>> with a
>> thousand herbs or spices. And certainly no need to add sugar to the mix.
>>
>> Jill
>
> that sounds like a pretty cruddy sloppy joe to me.
>
> your pal,
> blake
>
Sloppy Joes are supposed to be cruddy

Jill

On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 05:15:29 -0400, jmcquown wrote:

> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 09:52:24 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> Oh fer crying out loud. Ground beef (cooked and drained, of course), a
>>> can
>>> of Campbell's tomato soup diluted with a can of water. Add some chili
>>> powder and a dash of cayenne pepper. Simmer gently until there's very
>>> little liquid remaining but it's... well the name says it all...
>>> "sloppy".
>>> Serve it on hamburger buns. There's no need to make this complicated
>>> with a
>>> thousand herbs or spices. And certainly no need to add sugar to the mix.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> that sounds like a pretty cruddy sloppy joe to me.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>>
> Sloppy Joes are supposed to be cruddy
>
> Jill

it's like a shaggy dog story:

'not *that* cruddy!'

your pal,
blake

On Jul 10, 8:52*am, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> Oh fer crying out loud. *Ground beef (cooked and drained, of course), a can
> of Campbell's tomato soup diluted with a can of water. *Add some chili
> powder and a dash of cayenne pepper. *Simmer gently until there's very
> little liquid remaining but it's... well the name says it all... "sloppy"..
> Serve it on hamburger buns. *There's no need to make this complicated with a
> thousand herbs or spices. *And certainly no need to add sugar to the mix.

On Jul 10, 8:52*am, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> "Pringles CheezUms" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > I'm looking for a good sloppy joe recipe.
>
> > I like savory sloppy's better than sweet, so if it has more than a small
> > bit of brown sugar, ketchup, bbq sauce or other kinds of sweetener,
> > well I'm glad you enjoy it but I probably won't. Manwich is almost too
> > sweet for me.
> > If anyone knows McCormick sloppy joe spice mix, that's what I'm trying
> > to get a homemade version of.
>
> > So please help find a good sloppy joe recipe!
>
> Oh fer crying out loud. *Ground beef (cooked and drained, of course), a can
> of Campbell's tomato soup diluted with a can of water. *Add some chili
> powder and a dash of cayenne pepper. *Simmer gently until there's very
> little liquid remaining but it's... well the name says it all... "sloppy"..
> Serve it on hamburger buns. *There's no need to make this complicated with a
> thousand herbs or spices. *And certainly no need to add sugar to the mix.

On 2011-07-11, Nancy2 > wrote:

> Canned tomato soup? Really? Do people really make Sloppy Joe sauce
> like that? I've never heard of it.

The same ppl that make speghetti sauce using tomato soup.

nb

Nancy2 wrote:
> On Jul 10, 8:52 am, "jmcquown" > wrote:

>> Oh fer crying out loud. Ground beef (cooked and drained, of course), a can
>> of Campbell's tomato soup diluted with a can of water. Add some chili
>> powder and a dash of cayenne pepper. Simmer gently until there's very
>> little liquid remaining but it's... well the name says it all... "sloppy".
>> Serve it on hamburger buns. There's no need to make this complicated with a
>> thousand herbs or spices. And certainly no need to add sugar to the mix.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Canned tomato soup? Really? Do people really make Sloppy Joe sauce
> like that? I've never heard of it.
>
> N.

Nor have I, but know its just a huge amount of sugar in it. Jill's last
sentence should have read "And certainly no need to add more sugar to
the mix cause its already in the soup."

I've made Sloppy Joes probably twice in my married life. They were okay.
I recall the recipe was from Joy of Cooking, so since its close at hand
I will copy-

Sloppy Joes (pg 490 in the 1975 edition)
Heat in skillet:
2 T. butter
Add and saute:
1/2 cup minced onion
1/2 cup chopped celery
1/2 cup chopped green pepper, seeds and membrane removed
When these are limp, add:
1 1/2 pounds ground beef
Cook and stir until meat is lightly browned. Add:
1/2 cup chopped mushrooms
4 T. chili sauce
1/2 cup water
Season to taste
Simmer uncovered over low heat about 15 minutes until thickened enough
to spoon onto:
8 lightly toasted sandwich buns

On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 15:25:41 -0400, Goomba >
wrote:

>Nancy2 wrote:
>> On Jul 10, 8:52 am, "jmcquown" > wrote:
>
>>> Oh fer crying out loud. Ground beef (cooked and drained, of course), a can
>>> of Campbell's tomato soup diluted with a can of water. Add some chili
>>> powder and a dash of cayenne pepper. Simmer gently until there's very
>>> little liquid remaining but it's... well the name says it all... "sloppy".
>>> Serve it on hamburger buns. There's no need to make this complicated with a
>>> thousand herbs or spices. And certainly no need to add sugar to the mix.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Canned tomato soup? Really? Do people really make Sloppy Joe sauce
>> like that? I've never heard of it.
>>
>> N.
>
>Nor have I, but know its just a huge amount of sugar in it. Jill's last
>sentence should have read "And certainly no need to add more sugar to
>the mix cause its already in the soup."
>
>I've made Sloppy Joes probably twice in my married life. They were okay.
>I recall the recipe was from Joy of Cooking.

I'm old enough to remember when the term Sloppy Joe wasn't invented
yet. For me sloppy joe is a hijacking of American Chop Suey, but on a
bun instead of elbow macaroni.
http://www.cdkitchen.com/recipes/rec...uey69032.shtml

Brooklyn1 wrote:

> I'm old enough to remember when the term Sloppy Joe wasn't invented
> yet. For me sloppy joe is a hijacking of American Chop Suey, but on a
> bun instead of elbow macaroni.
> http://www.cdkitchen.com/recipes/rec...uey69032.shtml
>
I've never had that, but isn't it also sometimes called
<something>Marzetti or some such name? I recall reading about it here
years ago.

On 7/11/2011 10:30 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
> On Jul 10, 8:52 am, > wrote:
>> "Pringles > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>>> I'm looking for a good sloppy joe recipe.
>>
>>> I like savory sloppy's better than sweet, so if it has more than a small
>>> bit of brown sugar, ketchup, bbq sauce or other kinds of sweetener,
>>> well I'm glad you enjoy it but I probably won't. Manwich is almost too
>>> sweet for me.
>>> If anyone knows McCormick sloppy joe spice mix, that's what I'm trying
>>> to get a homemade version of.
>>
>>> So please help find a good sloppy joe recipe!
>>
>> Oh fer crying out loud. Ground beef (cooked and drained, of course), a can
>> of Campbell's tomato soup diluted with a can of water. Add some chili
>> powder and a dash of cayenne pepper. Simmer gently until there's very
>> little liquid remaining but it's... well the name says it all... "sloppy".
>> Serve it on hamburger buns. There's no need to make this complicated with a
>> thousand herbs or spices. And certainly no need to add sugar to the mix.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Canned tomato soup? Really? Do people really make Sloppy Joe sauce
> like that? I've never heard of it.

My mom always made Sloppy Joes using Campbell's vegetable (alphabet
noodles!) soup. Very bland, but we didn't know any better and
cheerfully ate it. Nowadays I prefer to just use a good barbecue
sauce, stirred into ground beef sauteed with coarsely chopped onions
and bell peppers.

On 7/9/2011 9:26 PM, Sqwertz wrote:

> But you asked this same question three years ago and didn't like the
> advice then, so I don't know why I'm bringing it up again.

That's one of the first posts I remember seeing here. I guess I've been
reading three years. Wow.

On 7/9/2011 10:26 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 21:45:59 -0400, Cheryl wrote:
>
>> On 7/9/2011 9:26 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>>> But you asked this same question three years ago and didn't like the
>>> advice then, so I don't know why I'm bringing it up again.
>>
>> That's one of the first posts I remember seeing here. I guess I've been
>> reading three years. Wow.
>
> How do you remember a post from 3 years ago, are you weird or
> something?
>
> ;-)

Yes.

Cheryl > wrote:

>On 7/9/2011 10:26 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 21:45:59 -0400, Cheryl wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/9/2011 9:26 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>
>>>> But you asked this same question three years ago and didn't like the
>>>> advice then, so I don't know why I'm bringing it up again.
>>>
>>> That's one of the first posts I remember seeing here. I guess I've been
>>> reading three years. Wow.
>>
>> How do you remember a post from 3 years ago, are you weird or
>> something?
>>
>> ;-)
>
>Yes.

How weird?<g> If you're one of those folks who remember
*everything*- you do know there is set of Dr's researching the
phenomenon who would like to talk to you.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/...n7156877.shtml
http://www.uci.edu/features/2010/12/...cts_101215.php

Jim

On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 01:00:32 -0400, Cheryl wrote:

> On 7/9/2011 10:26 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 21:45:59 -0400, Cheryl wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/9/2011 9:26 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>
>>>> But you asked this same question three years ago and didn't like the
>>>> advice then, so I don't know why I'm bringing it up again.
>>>
>>> That's one of the first posts I remember seeing here. I guess I've been
>>> reading three years. Wow.
>>
>> How do you remember a post from 3 years ago, are you weird or
>> something?
>>
>> ;-)
>
> Yes.

uh-oh.

good thing there are no other weird people here.

your pal,
blake

>> I'm looking for a good sloppy joe recipe.
>...
>But you asked this same question three years ago and didn't like the
>advice then, so I don't know why I'm bringing it up again.

Wow. Someone saw and remembered!
Yeah, you're right. I didn't get a good savory sloppy joe recipe then.
The reason I ask again is things change. There might be new people with
new ideas, old people find new things. Probably should ask every year,
really.
If I were more experienced, I might be able to work up something that
works for me. But I'm not, so I ask.

>Have you tried Manwich Bold?

I'll probably try it, thanks.

But hopefully I can find something to make from scratch.

Thanks for you input.