sf wrote:
>
> On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 08:32:32 -0500, "Pete C." >
> wrote:
>
> >
> > As I noted, parchment is the only reliable release paper I've found for
> > the bottom of my cheesecake in spring form pans. I've tried waxed paper
> > and it just doesn't do it. This is pretty much the only thing I use
> > parchment for however, since other baking is on an exopat mat or in
> > silicone bakeware.
>
> Why would you need anything? I just run a metal cake spatula between
> the crust and bottom, it releases and I can slide it off.

Your spring form pan is apparently different from mine, there is a bit
of a lip around the base. I suppose I could search for different pans,
but I don't see a need until the two I have wear out.

On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 16:47:22 -0500, "Pete C." >
wrote:

>
> sf wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 08:32:32 -0500, "Pete C." >
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > As I noted, parchment is the only reliable release paper I've found for
> > > the bottom of my cheesecake in spring form pans. I've tried waxed paper
> > > and it just doesn't do it. This is pretty much the only thing I use
> > > parchment for however, since other baking is on an exopat mat or in
> > > silicone bakeware.
> >
> > Why would you need anything? I just run a metal cake spatula between
> > the crust and bottom, it releases and I can slide it off.
>
> Your spring form pan is apparently different from mine, there is a bit
> of a lip around the base. I suppose I could search for different pans,
> but I don't see a need until the two I have wear out.

If it's that big of a problem for you, there are two sides to the
bottom plate. Put the other side up.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

Pete C. wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> > I did not make that claim. I was laughing that *another did*. It's
> > in one of the other comments. They specifically were warning that it
> > had to be removed for the KA attachment sorts.
>
> Either way, the claim is 100% false. I use my KA grinder regularly and
> it has never had an issue handling anything I fed it. I do use a mixer
> more powerful than a bottom end KA model to power it, but I don't
> think a top end KA mixer would have any problem.

Then tell them! I don't own a KA nor said I did. I was just laughing
at what a KA owner said it needed.

--

sf > wrote:

>On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 16:47:22 -0500, "Pete C." >
>wrote:
>> sf wrote:
>> >
>> > On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 08:32:32 -0500, "Pete C." >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > As I noted, parchment is the only reliable release paper I've found for
>> > > the bottom of my cheesecake in spring form pans. I've tried waxed paper
>> > > and it just doesn't do it. This is pretty much the only thing I use
>> > > parchment for however, since other baking is on an exopat mat or in
>> > > silicone bakeware.
>> >
>> > Why would you need anything? I just run a metal cake spatula between
>> > the crust and bottom, it releases and I can slide it off.
>>
>> Your spring form pan is apparently different from mine, there is a bit
>> of a lip around the base. I suppose I could search for different pans,
>> but I don't see a need until the two I have wear out.
>
>If it's that big of a problem for you, there are two sides to the
>bottom plate. Put the other side up.

Spring form pans don't have a raised lip, they have a formed groove
that doesn't interfere with using a spatula. Petey boy is just making
it up so he can be obstinate regarding parchment paper... which of
course he has never used anyway. For someone with such strong
opinions he has never once shown proof of anything he claims with his
flapping gums... Petey boy is a liar... and I wouldn't care, most
usenetters exaggerate, but when he messes with me I gotta go after
him. And in case anyone wonders, I never exaggerate anything about
myself, if anything I understate, I way understate everything about
myself. But Petey boy has not once backed up any of his wild claims,
PETE IS A LIAR... he owns no truck, he owns no shop, Pete owns
nothing, Pete owns absolutely nothing, if anything he's a derelect bum
with free access to the net at the public library.

On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 21:09:17 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:

> Spring form pans don't have a raised lip, they have a formed groove
> that doesn't interfere with using a spatula.

That's the "other" side. Look at what would be the "other side" from
the one you use and you'll see what he's talking about. I don't find
it a problem to use either side. <shrug> There are two distinct
sides, so if one is a problem - use the other side. I just don't see
why anyone needs to complain.... but apparently there are a lot of
people who can't figure out they can flip the bottom plate because
glass bottomed springform pans (no lip) are popular.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 22:26:01 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 21:09:17 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>
>> Spring form pans don't have a raised lip, they have a formed groove
>> that doesn't interfere with using a spatula.
>
>That's the "other" side. Look at what would be the "other side" from
>the one you use and you'll see what he's talking about. I don't find
>it a problem to use either side. <shrug> There are two distinct
>sides, so if one is a problem - use the other side. I just don't see
>why anyone needs to complain.... but apparently there are a lot of
>people who can't figure out they can flip the bottom plate because
>glass bottomed springform pans (no lip) are popular.

Petey boy finds fault with everything... I'd not be surprised to find
out that he uses parchment paper for TP.

On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 21:09:17 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:

> Spring form pans don't have a raised lip, they have a formed groove
> that doesn't interfere with using a spatula. Petey boy is just making
> it up so he can be obstinate regarding parchment paper... which of
> course he has never used anyway. For someone with such strong
> opinions he has never once shown proof of anything he claims with his
> flapping gums... Petey boy is a liar... and I wouldn't care, most
> usenetters exaggerate, but when he messes with me I gotta go after
> him. And in case anyone wonders, I never exaggerate anything about
> myself, if anything I understate, I way understate everything about
> myself.

uh-huh.

blake

"Polly Esther" wrote:
>
>Thank you so much. I didn't realize the meat grinding topic was still going
>on. What you've said makes lots of sense and it would have take me a long
>time to figure it out myself. I appreciate your guidance. Polly

The most important thing to keep in mind is that grinding is not a way
to salvage poor quality meat... garbage in/garbage out... only choose
meat cuts that you would eat without grinding. In other words trim
away the parts you wouldn't eat were it not ground. Meat for grinding
should be better quality and better trimmed than that prepared by
other methods, because once ground you cannot remove the trashy
parts... after cooking and before eating you can always trim around a
roast or steak but you can't trim burgers and sausage. If you're
going to grind poor quality untrimmed meat you may as well buy already
ground mystery meat. The entire concept of grinding your own meat is
exactly the same as seeing your choice nekid BEFORE committing to
sleep with them. If you only undress in the dark then you are mystery
meat. There are no restaurants (none) that on their best day prepare
better quality foods than I prepare on my worst day. Next yoose eat
out remember everything you're served was prepared Dr. Frankenstein
style... a Horror show.

On 7/17/2011 8:53 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> If you only undress in the dark then you are mystery
> meat.

I don't insist on darkness when I undress... but I keep my back to any
mirror and my eyes closed.

Life is tough enough without me scaring myself with a stray glance.

George L

"George Leppla" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/17/2011 8:53 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> If you only undress in the dark then you are mystery
>> meat.
>
> I don't insist on darkness when I undress... but I keep my back to any
> mirror and my eyes closed.
>
> Life is tough enough without me scaring myself with a stray glance.

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww! I am sure it not that bad