So I bought the book called 20-Minute Menus by Marian Burros. Luckily I got
it used and didn't pay much for it because it is totally worthless to me.
The book seems to presume that the people buying it don't know a thing about
cooking. They tell you if the recipe calls for an 8 oz onion but you only
have a 10 oz. onion to either discard the 2 oz. or add them to your dish.
Say what? Who weighs their onions? Really?

I do not seem much at all in that book that I would like to eat. It's big
on fish dishes. I already know how to make things with chicken nuggets. I
know how to make lasagna without meat. In fact I never put meat in mine. I
know how to make hamburger patties. It's just far easier to make them
already made up. Same with the chicken nuggets. Now that's really fast
food. Buy it already made. Which is what I would think they would tell you
to do since they tell you to buy the breadsticks, whole wheat bread, pesto,
etc. already made up. You are also supposed to buy your veggies cut or
sliced already.

This book might be good for someone who truly doesn't know how to cook or
stock a pantry. It also tells you how to do that and what the game plan is
for the meal.

So whoever recommended this book to me (I can't remember), thanks but no
thanks!

On Aug 11, 3:31*am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> So I bought the book called 20-Minute Menus by Marian Burros. *Luckily I got
> it used and didn't pay much for it because it is totally worthless to me.
> The book seems to presume that the people buying it don't know a thing about
> cooking. *They tell you if the recipe calls for an 8 oz onion but you only
> have a 10 oz. onion to either discard the 2 oz. or add them to your dish.
> Say what? *Who weighs their onions? *Really?
>
> I do not seem much at all in that book that I would like to eat. *It's big
> on fish dishes. *I already know how to make things with chicken nuggets.. *I
> know how to make lasagna without meat. *In fact I never put meat in mine. *I
> know how to make hamburger patties. *It's just far easier to make them
> already made up. *Same with the chicken nuggets. *Now that's really fast
> food. *Buy it already made. *Which is what I would think they would tell you
> to do since they tell you to buy the breadsticks, whole wheat bread, pesto,
> etc. already made up. *You are also supposed to buy your veggies cut or
> sliced already.
>
> This book might be good for someone who truly doesn't know how to cook or
> stock a pantry. *It also tells you how to do that and what the game plan is
> for the meal.
>
> So whoever recommended this book to me (I can't remember), thanks but no
> thanks!

So, why did you buy the book?

I seem to recall you ****ing and moaning about food in general, and
everyone was supposed to bow to you and your *dancer* daughter. We're
all supposed to be jealous of ya'll dipshits.

So, whoever recommended that you suck, was right!

(try to) Flame on!

On Aug 11, 3:36*am, projectile vomit chick
> wrote:
> On Aug 11, 3:31*am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > So I bought the book called 20-Minute Menus by Marian Burros. *Luckily I got
> > it used and didn't pay much for it because it is totally worthless to me.
> > The book seems to presume that the people buying it don't know a thing about
> > cooking. *They tell you if the recipe calls for an 8 oz onion but you only
> > have a 10 oz. onion to either discard the 2 oz. or add them to your dish.
> > Say what? *Who weighs their onions? *Really?
>
> > I do not seem much at all in that book that I would like to eat. *It's big
> > on fish dishes. *I already know how to make things with chicken nuggets. *I
> > know how to make lasagna without meat. *In fact I never put meat in mine. *I
> > know how to make hamburger patties. *It's just far easier to make them
> > already made up. *Same with the chicken nuggets. *Now that's really fast
> > food. *Buy it already made. *Which is what I would think they would tell you
> > to do since they tell you to buy the breadsticks, whole wheat bread, pesto,
> > etc. already made up. *You are also supposed to buy your veggies cut or
> > sliced already.
>
> > This book might be good for someone who truly doesn't know how to cook or
> > stock a pantry. *It also tells you how to do that and what the game plan is
> > for the meal.
>
> > So whoever recommended this book to me (I can't remember), thanks but no
> > thanks!
>
> So, why did you buy the book?
>
> I seem to recall you ****ing and moaning about food in general, and
> everyone was supposed to bow to you and your *dancer* daughter. *We're
> all supposed to be jealous of ya'll dipshits.
>
> So, whoever recommended that you suck, was right!
>
> (try to) Flame on!

I like this post. I wish I could give it thumbs-up like Facebook
does. LOL

On Aug 11, 3:31*am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> So I bought the book called 20-Minute Menus by Marian Burros. *Luckily I got
> it used and didn't pay much for it because it is totally worthless to me.
> The book seems to presume that the people buying it don't know a thing about
> cooking. *They tell you if the recipe calls for an 8 oz onion but you only
> have a 10 oz. onion to either discard the 2 oz. or add them to your dish.
> Say what? *Who weighs their onions? *Really?

This coming from the *person* that can't grasp the concept of
produce. You can't get through your ****ing stupid dumb ****ing
"brain" that you can make salad from produce. You don't have to weigh
the produce. You just chop the shit up and put it in the God-damned
bowl. Oh no, that's too hard for you. You really think people weigh
their onions. You are a ****ing dumb ****ing shit and I hate you.

But I'm over it, now. You're a troll.


>
> I do not seem much at all in that book that I would like to eat. *It's big
> on fish dishes. *I already know how to make things with chicken nuggets.. *I
> know how to make lasagna without meat. *In fact I never put meat in mine. *I
> know how to make hamburger patties. *It's just far easier to make them
> already made up. *Same with the chicken nuggets. *Now that's really fast
> food. *Buy it already made. *Which is what I would think they would tell you
> to do since they tell you to buy the breadsticks, whole wheat bread, pesto,
> etc. already made up. *You are also supposed to buy your veggies cut or
> sliced already.
>
> This book might be good for someone who truly doesn't know how to cook or
> stock a pantry. *It also tells you how to do that and what the game plan is
> for the meal.
>
> So whoever recommended this book to me (I can't remember), thanks but no
> thanks!

You're one of the more humorous trolls that I've seen on Usenet. On a
par with Jerry Sauk. LOL

"projectile vomit chick" > wrote in message
...
On Aug 11, 3:31 am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> So I bought the book called 20-Minute Menus by Marian Burros. Luckily I
> got
> it used and didn't pay much for it because it is totally worthless to me.
> The book seems to presume that the people buying it don't know a thing
> about
> cooking. They tell you if the recipe calls for an 8 oz onion but you only
> have a 10 oz. onion to either discard the 2 oz. or add them to your dish.
> Say what? Who weighs their onions? Really?
>
> I do not seem much at all in that book that I would like to eat. It's big
> on fish dishes. I already know how to make things with chicken nuggets. I
> know how to make lasagna without meat. In fact I never put meat in mine. I
> know how to make hamburger patties. It's just far easier to make them
> already made up. Same with the chicken nuggets. Now that's really fast
> food. Buy it already made. Which is what I would think they would tell you
> to do since they tell you to buy the breadsticks, whole wheat bread,
> pesto,
> etc. already made up. You are also supposed to buy your veggies cut or
> sliced already.
>
> This book might be good for someone who truly doesn't know how to cook or
> stock a pantry. It also tells you how to do that and what the game plan is
> for the meal.
>
> So whoever recommended this book to me (I can't remember), thanks but no
> thanks!

So, why did you buy the book?

I seem to recall you ****ing and moaning about food in general, and
everyone was supposed to bow to you and your *dancer* daughter. We're
all supposed to be jealous of ya'll dipshits.

So, whoever recommended that you suck, was right!

(try to) Flame on!

Um... FOAD. Yeah.

projectile vomit chick wrote:
> On Aug 11, 3:31 am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>> So I bought the book called 20-Minute Menus by Marian Burros.
>> Luckily I got it used and didn't pay much for it because it is
>> totally worthless to me. The book seems to presume that the people
>> buying it don't know a thing about cooking. They tell you if the
>> recipe calls for an 8 oz onion but you only have a 10 oz. onion to
>> either discard the 2 oz. or add them to your dish. Say what? Who
>> weighs their onions? Really?
>
> This coming from the *person* that can't grasp the concept of
> produce. You can't get through your ****ing stupid dumb ****ing
> "brain" that you can make salad from produce. You don't have to weigh
> the produce. You just chop the shit up and put it in the God-damned
> bowl. Oh no, that's too hard for you. You really think people weigh
> their onions. You are a ****ing dumb ****ing shit and I hate you.

WTF? I know what produce is. I know how to make salads. Where are you
coming from? Do you really think I need a recipe to make a salad? I've
been making salads since I was 4!

And if you hate me... Oh well! I can't say that I find you any too
pleasant.
>
> But I'm over it, now. You're a troll.

Are you over it now? Are you really? Because you replied THREE times to
the same post. Gah!

>> I do not seem much at all in that book that I would like to eat.
>> It's big on fish dishes. I already know how to make things with
>> chicken nuggets. I know how to make lasagna without meat. In fact I
>> never put meat in mine. I know how to make hamburger patties. It's
>> just far easier to make them already made up. Same with the chicken
>> nuggets. Now that's really fast food. Buy it already made. Which is
>> what I would think they would tell you to do since they tell you to
>> buy the breadsticks, whole wheat bread, pesto, etc. already made up.
>> You are also supposed to buy your veggies cut or sliced already.
>>
>> This book might be good for someone who truly doesn't know how to
>> cook or stock a pantry. It also tells you how to do that and what
>> the game plan is for the meal.
>>
>> So whoever recommended this book to me (I can't remember), thanks
>> but no thanks!
>
> You're one of the more humorous trolls that I've seen on Usenet. On a
> par with Jerry Sauk. LOL

Whoever that is...

On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 01:36:52 -0700 (PDT), projectile vomit chick
> wrote:

>On Aug 11, 3:31*am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>> So I bought the book called 20-Minute Menus by Marian Burros. *Luckily I got
>> it used and didn't pay much for it because it is totally worthless to me.
>> The book seems to presume that the people buying it don't know a thing about
>> cooking. *They tell you if the recipe calls for an 8 oz onion but you only
>> have a 10 oz. onion to either discard the 2 oz. or add them to your dish.
>> Say what? *Who weighs their onions? *Really?
>>
>> I do not seem much at all in that book that I would like to eat. *It's big
>> on fish dishes. *I already know how to make things with chicken nuggets. *I
>> know how to make lasagna without meat. *In fact I never put meat in mine. *I
>> know how to make hamburger patties. *It's just far easier to make them
>> already made up. *Same with the chicken nuggets. *Now that's really fast
>> food. *Buy it already made. *Which is what I would think they would tell you
>> to do since they tell you to buy the breadsticks, whole wheat bread, pesto,
>> etc. already made up. *You are also supposed to buy your veggies cut or
>> sliced already.
>>
>> This book might be good for someone who truly doesn't know how to cook or
>> stock a pantry. *It also tells you how to do that and what the game plan is
>> for the meal.
>>
>> So whoever recommended this book to me (I can't remember), thanks but no
>> thanks!
>
>So, why did you buy the book?
>
>I seem to recall you ****ing and moaning about food in general, and
>everyone was supposed to bow to you and your *dancer* daughter. We're
>all supposed to be jealous of ya'll dipshits.

snip
I have something for you. . .advertised on TV, coming this fall,
"Dancing Moms" or something like that. It was advertised in
conjunction with "Toddlers and Tiaras", so I can imagine what it will
be like. I'm really looking forward to seeing at least one episode of
this one )
Janet US

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> So I bought the book called 20-Minute Menus by Marian Burros. Luckily I got
> it used and didn't pay much for it because it is totally worthless to me.
> The book seems to presume that the people buying it don't know a thing about
> cooking. They tell you if the recipe calls for an 8 oz onion but you only
> have a 10 oz. onion to either discard the 2 oz. or add them to your dish.
> Say what? Who weighs their onions? Really?
>
> I do not seem much at all in that book that I would like to eat. It's big
> on fish dishes. I already know how to make things with chicken nuggets. I
> know how to make lasagna without meat. In fact I never put meat in mine. I
> know how to make hamburger patties. It's just far easier to make them
> already made up. Same with the chicken nuggets. Now that's really fast
> food. Buy it already made. Which is what I would think they would tell you
> to do since they tell you to buy the breadsticks, whole wheat bread, pesto,
> etc. already made up. You are also supposed to buy your veggies cut or
> sliced already.
>
> This book might be good for someone who truly doesn't know how to cook or
> stock a pantry. It also tells you how to do that and what the game plan is
> for the meal.
>
> So whoever recommended this book to me (I can't remember), thanks but no
> thanks!

In case you haven't noticed, most of the population has no idea how to
cook (big part of the obesity epidemic). Seems to correlate with home
economics type classes disappearing from schools, much like loss of
mechanical skills correlates with shop classes disappearing.

On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 01:31:06 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:

> So I bought the book called 20-Minute Menus by Marian Burros. Luckily I got
> it used and didn't pay much for it because it is totally worthless to me.
> The book seems to presume that the people buying it don't know a thing about
> cooking. They tell you if the recipe calls for an 8 oz onion but you only
> have a 10 oz. onion to either discard the 2 oz. or add them to your dish.
> Say what? Who weighs their onions? Really?
>
> I do not seem much at all in that book that I would like to eat. It's big
> on fish dishes. I already know how to make things with chicken nuggets. I
> know how to make lasagna without meat. In fact I never put meat in mine. I
> know how to make hamburger patties. It's just far easier to make them
> already made up. Same with the chicken nuggets. Now that's really fast
> food. Buy it already made. Which is what I would think they would tell you
> to do since they tell you to buy the breadsticks, whole wheat bread, pesto,
> etc. already made up. You are also supposed to buy your veggies cut or
> sliced already.
>
> This book might be good for someone who truly doesn't know how to cook or
> stock a pantry. It also tells you how to do that and what the game plan is
> for the meal.
>
> So whoever recommended this book to me (I can't remember), thanks but no
> thanks!

oops. the book is in transit to me. but if it does turn out to be
useless, it won't be the first cookbook i've bought and not really used.
(i paid $3.61, complete.)

your pal,
blake

On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 10:13:05 -0400, blake murphy
> wrote:

>On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 01:31:06 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:

>> So whoever recommended this book to me (I can't remember), thanks but no
>> thanks!
>
>oops. the book is in transit to me. but if it does turn out to be
>useless, it won't be the first cookbook i've bought and not really used.
>(i paid $3.61, complete.)

I had some dogs in my collection too. I loaded them in the trunk and
wherever I went folks could take what they wanted. After a month
or so what was left went to good will.

Lou

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message

> So I bought the book called 20-Minute Menus by Marian Burros.
> Luckily I got it used and didn't pay much for it because it is
> totally worthless to me.

<snip rest of negative review>

Just because this book is worthless to you, don't presume it's
worthless to the beginners for whom it seems to have been written.

Marian Burros is the author of nine cookbooks and started writing for
the New York Times some thirty years ago, For all I know, she may
still be at it. But what I do know is that she's a well-respected food
writer. You might take a look at some of her other works before you
knock one that is obviously not aimed at experienced cooks!

Felice

"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 01:36:52 -0700 (PDT), projectile vomit chick
> > wrote:
>
>>On Aug 11, 3:31 am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>> So I bought the book called 20-Minute Menus by Marian Burros. Luckily I
>>> got
>>> it used and didn't pay much for it because it is totally worthless to
>>> me.
>>> The book seems to presume that the people buying it don't know a thing
>>> about
>>> cooking. They tell you if the recipe calls for an 8 oz onion but you
>>> only
>>> have a 10 oz. onion to either discard the 2 oz. or add them to your
>>> dish.
>>> Say what? Who weighs their onions? Really?
>>>
>>> I do not seem much at all in that book that I would like to eat. It's
>>> big
>>> on fish dishes. I already know how to make things with chicken nuggets.
>>> I
>>> know how to make lasagna without meat. In fact I never put meat in mine.
>>> I
>>> know how to make hamburger patties. It's just far easier to make them
>>> already made up. Same with the chicken nuggets. Now that's really fast
>>> food. Buy it already made. Which is what I would think they would tell
>>> you
>>> to do since they tell you to buy the breadsticks, whole wheat bread,
>>> pesto,
>>> etc. already made up. You are also supposed to buy your veggies cut or
>>> sliced already.
>>>
>>> This book might be good for someone who truly doesn't know how to cook
>>> or
>>> stock a pantry. It also tells you how to do that and what the game plan
>>> is
>>> for the meal.
>>>
>>> So whoever recommended this book to me (I can't remember), thanks but no
>>> thanks!
>>
>>So, why did you buy the book?
>>
>>I seem to recall you ****ing and moaning about food in general, and
>>everyone was supposed to bow to you and your *dancer* daughter. We're
>>all supposed to be jealous of ya'll dipshits.
>
> snip
> I have something for you. . .advertised on TV, coming this fall,
> "Dancing Moms" or something like that. It was advertised in
> conjunction with "Toddlers and Tiaras", so I can imagine what it will
> be like. I'm really looking forward to seeing at least one episode of
> this one )
> Janet US

It's called Dance Moms. It's on. It' totally phony and scripted. There is
nothing at all real about the thing.

"Pete C." > wrote in message
.com...
>
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> So I bought the book called 20-Minute Menus by Marian Burros. Luckily I
>> got
>> it used and didn't pay much for it because it is totally worthless to me.
>> The book seems to presume that the people buying it don't know a thing
>> about
>> cooking. They tell you if the recipe calls for an 8 oz onion but you
>> only
>> have a 10 oz. onion to either discard the 2 oz. or add them to your dish.
>> Say what? Who weighs their onions? Really?
>>
>> I do not seem much at all in that book that I would like to eat. It's
>> big
>> on fish dishes. I already know how to make things with chicken nuggets.
>> I
>> know how to make lasagna without meat. In fact I never put meat in mine.
>> I
>> know how to make hamburger patties. It's just far easier to make them
>> already made up. Same with the chicken nuggets. Now that's really fast
>> food. Buy it already made. Which is what I would think they would tell
>> you
>> to do since they tell you to buy the breadsticks, whole wheat bread,
>> pesto,
>> etc. already made up. You are also supposed to buy your veggies cut or
>> sliced already.
>>
>> This book might be good for someone who truly doesn't know how to cook or
>> stock a pantry. It also tells you how to do that and what the game plan
>> is
>> for the meal.
>>
>> So whoever recommended this book to me (I can't remember), thanks but no
>> thanks!
>
> In case you haven't noticed, most of the population has no idea how to
> cook (big part of the obesity epidemic). Seems to correlate with home
> economics type classes disappearing from schools, much like loss of
> mechanical skills correlates with shop classes disappearing.

I do know that but someone here recommended the book so I assumed they owned
it.

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
.. .
> On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 01:31:06 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> So I bought the book called 20-Minute Menus by Marian Burros. Luckily I
>> got
>> it used and didn't pay much for it because it is totally worthless to me.
>> The book seems to presume that the people buying it don't know a thing
>> about
>> cooking. They tell you if the recipe calls for an 8 oz onion but you
>> only
>> have a 10 oz. onion to either discard the 2 oz. or add them to your dish.
>> Say what? Who weighs their onions? Really?
>>
>> I do not seem much at all in that book that I would like to eat. It's
>> big
>> on fish dishes. I already know how to make things with chicken nuggets.
>> I
>> know how to make lasagna without meat. In fact I never put meat in mine.
>> I
>> know how to make hamburger patties. It's just far easier to make them
>> already made up. Same with the chicken nuggets. Now that's really fast
>> food. Buy it already made. Which is what I would think they would tell
>> you
>> to do since they tell you to buy the breadsticks, whole wheat bread,
>> pesto,
>> etc. already made up. You are also supposed to buy your veggies cut or
>> sliced already.
>>
>> This book might be good for someone who truly doesn't know how to cook or
>> stock a pantry. It also tells you how to do that and what the game plan
>> is
>> for the meal.
>>
>> So whoever recommended this book to me (I can't remember), thanks but no
>> thanks!
>
> oops. the book is in transit to me. but if it does turn out to be
> useless, it won't be the first cookbook i've bought and not really used.
> (i paid $3.61, complete.)

That's about what I paid for it. You might find something you like but to
me most of what was in there was really weird combinations of stuff.

"Felice" > wrote in message
...
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>
>> So I bought the book called 20-Minute Menus by Marian Burros. Luckily I
>> got it used and didn't pay much for it because it is
>> totally worthless to me.
>
> <snip rest of negative review>
>
> Just because this book is worthless to you, don't presume it's worthless
> to the beginners for whom it seems to have been written.

I'm not. But my point was that someone here recommended the book to me. I
think most people here know how to cook. A few people here have said that
they do not. But... If I didn't know how to cook and this was the first
book I got, I assure you I would never cook again!
>
> Marian Burros is the author of nine cookbooks and started writing for the
> New York Times some thirty years ago, For all I know, she may still be at
> it. But what I do know is that she's a well-respected food writer. You
> might take a look at some of her other works before you knock one that is
> obviously not aimed at experienced cooks!

If that's her style of cooking, I'm not interested. I don't know of any
kids who would eat those strange combinations. Potatoes with everything on
them? And indeed they were. Chopped potatoes with all sort of other
vegetables, cheese and yogurt dumped on top. I could take some things
randomly from my fridge and come up with a better potato dish than that.

Felice wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>
> > So I bought the book called 20-Minute Menus by Marian Burros.
> > Luckily I got it used and didn't pay much for it because it is
> > totally worthless to me.
>
> <snip rest of negative review>
>
> Just because this book is worthless to you, don't presume it's
> worthless to the beginners for whom it seems to have been written.
>
> Marian Burros is the author of nine cookbooks and started writing for
> the New York Times some thirty years ago, For all I know, she may
> still be at it. But what I do know is that she's a well-respected
> food writer. You might take a look at some of her other works before
> you knock one that is obviously not aimed at experienced cooks!
>
> Felice

I agree Felice. I have some cookbooks that I have passed on to others
as I have outgrown them. That did not mean they lacked value when I
was at that level of cook.

I am as I have mentioned, one who had to teach myself as Mom is not a
cook. Lovely woman, but she got confused this past week when i tried
to tell her how to steam green beans. Grin, too advanced for her. (I
reverse engineered a microwave version for her use).

I started simple and worked up.

It sounds like she was trying to use measurements to reasonably control
the process for a beginner.


--

Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> "Felice" > wrote in message
> ... >"Julie Bove"
> > wrote in message
> >
> > > So I bought the book called 20-Minute Menus by Marian Burros.
> > > Luckily I got it used and didn't pay much for it because it is
> > > totally worthless to me.
> >
> > <snip rest of negative review>
> >
> > Just because this book is worthless to you, don't presume it's
> > worthless to the beginners for whom it seems to have been written.
>
> I'm not. But my point was that someone here recommended the book to
> me. I think most people here know how to cook. A few people here
> have said that they do not. But... If I didn't know how to cook and
> this was the first book I got, I assure you I would never cook again!
> >
> > Marian Burros is the author of nine cookbooks and started writing
> > for the New York Times some thirty years ago, For all I know, she
> > may still be at it. But what I do know is that she's a
> > well-respected food writer. You might take a look at some of her
> > other works before you knock one that is obviously not aimed at
> > experienced cooks!
>
> If that's her style of cooking, I'm not interested. I don't know of
> any kids who would eat those strange combinations. Potatoes with
> everything on them? And indeed they were. Chopped potatoes with all
> sort of other vegetables, cheese and yogurt dumped on top. I could
> take some things randomly from my fridge and come up with a better
> potato dish than that.

Actually that sounds good. It has to be the right combination but
that's a classic potato dish.

Julie, your family is a bit 'different' in eating and mine is too but
mine's the other side of the line. One of Charlotte's favorite foods
since she was 7 is 'fish sticks'. Thats a grilled whole spiced 5-6
inch fish (head and tail) on a stick, grilled. She actually prefers
her's uncleaned for the taste of the delicate tummy goodies as she
calls them.

Your kids are picky eaters because thats acceptable in your home. In
mine, while we orient to favored items, anything edible you can think
of is fair game to try at least once. Twice if we think I just didnt
make it right the first time.

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Julie Bove wrote:
> So I bought the book called 20-Minute Menus by Marian Burros. Luckily I got
> it used and didn't pay much for it because it is totally worthless to me.
> The book seems to presume that the people buying it don't know a thing about
> cooking. They tell you if the recipe calls for an 8 oz onion but you only
> have a 10 oz. onion to either discard the 2 oz. or add them to your dish.
> Say what? Who weighs their onions? Really?
>

I think teaching non-cooks how to cook *is* her specialty. I purchased
one of her books for my daughter and was pleased with it.

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>>
>> "Felice" > wrote in message
>> ... >"Julie Bove"
>> > wrote in message
>> >
>> > > So I bought the book called 20-Minute Menus by Marian Burros.
>> > > Luckily I got it used and didn't pay much for it because it is
>> > > totally worthless to me.
>> >
>> > <snip rest of negative review>
>> >
>> > Just because this book is worthless to you, don't presume it's
>> > worthless to the beginners for whom it seems to have been written.
>>
>> I'm not. But my point was that someone here recommended the book to
>> me. I think most people here know how to cook. A few people here
>> have said that they do not. But... If I didn't know how to cook and
>> this was the first book I got, I assure you I would never cook again!
>> >
>> > Marian Burros is the author of nine cookbooks and started writing
>> > for the New York Times some thirty years ago, For all I know, she
>> > may still be at it. But what I do know is that she's a
>> > well-respected food writer. You might take a look at some of her
>> > other works before you knock one that is obviously not aimed at
>> > experienced cooks!
>>
>> If that's her style of cooking, I'm not interested. I don't know of
>> any kids who would eat those strange combinations. Potatoes with
>> everything on them? And indeed they were. Chopped potatoes with all
>> sort of other vegetables, cheese and yogurt dumped on top. I could
>> take some things randomly from my fridge and come up with a better
>> potato dish than that.
>
> Actually that sounds good. It has to be the right combination but
> that's a classic potato dish.
>
> Julie, your family is a bit 'different' in eating and mine is too but
> mine's the other side of the line. One of Charlotte's favorite foods
> since she was 7 is 'fish sticks'. Thats a grilled whole spiced 5-6
> inch fish (head and tail) on a stick, grilled. She actually prefers
> her's uncleaned for the taste of the delicate tummy goodies as she
> calls them.
>
> Your kids are picky eaters because thats acceptable in your home. In
> mine, while we orient to favored items, anything edible you can think
> of is fair game to try at least once. Twice if we think I just didnt
> make it right the first time.

I only have the one kid. I couldn't handle more than that.

"Goomba" > ha scritto nel messaggio
> Julie Bove wrote:
>> So I bought the book called 20-Minute Menus by Marian Burros. Luckily I
>> got it used and didn't pay much for it because it is totally worthless to
>> me. The book seems to presume that the people buying it don't know a
>> thing about cooking. They tell you if the recipe calls for an 8 oz onion
>> but you only have a 10 oz. onion to either discard the 2 oz. or add them
>> to your dish. Say what? Who weighs their onions? Really?
>>
>
> I think teaching non-cooks how to cook *is* her specialty. I purchased one
> of her books for my daughter and was pleased with it.

Marion Burros provides the best recipe for moules mariniere ever. However,
when you set a standard of 20 minutes for a menu you must expect food quite
different to everyday. I've many dishes that I can do in 20 minutes but I
don't necessarily consider them a meal, a menu.
Tipping and tailing green beans takes too long for that, peeling and cooking
carrots takes too long, peeling and cooking potatoes takes too long. You'd
need quite a pantry of canned and dried and boxed things because although
maybe you can cook rice in that time, preparing from scratch a stir fry to
go with it means going to a supermarket salad bar which we don't even have!
I'd be hard pressed to write a whole book of decent food one could have on
the table in 20 minutes.

Julie wrote:

> So I bought the book called 20-Minute Menus by Marian Burros. Luckily I
> got it used and didn't pay much for it because it is totally worthless to
> me. The book seems to presume that the people buying it don't know a thing
> about cooking. They tell you if the recipe calls for an 8 oz onion but
> you only have a 10 oz. onion to either discard the 2 oz. or add them to
> your dish. Say what? Who weighs their onions? Really?
>
> I do not seem much at all in that book that I would like to eat. It's big
> on fish dishes. I already know how to make things with chicken nuggets.
> I know how to make lasagna without meat. In fact I never put meat in
> mine. I know how to make hamburger patties. It's just far easier to make
> them already made up. Same with the chicken nuggets. Now that's really
> fast food. Buy it already made. Which is what I would think they would
> tell you to do since they tell you to buy the breadsticks, whole wheat
> bread, pesto, etc. already made up. You are also supposed to buy your
> veggies cut or sliced already.
>
> This book might be good for someone who truly doesn't know how to cook or
> stock a pantry. It also tells you how to do that and what the game plan
> is for the meal.
>
> So whoever recommended this book to me (I can't remember), thanks but no
> thanks!

I'm the one who recommended the book. I stand by my recommendation. Your
objection seems to be that the instructions are written too clearly, which
strikes me as a bizarre thing to complain about.

The book is "big on fish dishes" because fish cooks quickly. Did you expect
to see some secret method of cooking an entire brisket in 20 minutes?

The author doesn't assume you don't know how to cut up vegetables. She
advocates buying pre-cut vegetables to save you time in the kitchen. You are
of course free to cut up your own vegetables, realizing that doing so will
cost you some time while saving you some money.

Bob

"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in message
eb.com...
> Julie wrote:
>
>> So I bought the book called 20-Minute Menus by Marian Burros. Luckily I
>> got it used and didn't pay much for it because it is totally worthless to
>> me. The book seems to presume that the people buying it don't know a
>> thing
>> about cooking. They tell you if the recipe calls for an 8 oz onion but
>> you only have a 10 oz. onion to either discard the 2 oz. or add them to
>> your dish. Say what? Who weighs their onions? Really?
>>
>> I do not seem much at all in that book that I would like to eat. It's
>> big
>> on fish dishes. I already know how to make things with chicken nuggets.
>> I know how to make lasagna without meat. In fact I never put meat in
>> mine. I know how to make hamburger patties. It's just far easier to
>> make
>> them already made up. Same with the chicken nuggets. Now that's really
>> fast food. Buy it already made. Which is what I would think they would
>> tell you to do since they tell you to buy the breadsticks, whole wheat
>> bread, pesto, etc. already made up. You are also supposed to buy your
>> veggies cut or sliced already.
>>
>> This book might be good for someone who truly doesn't know how to cook or
>> stock a pantry. It also tells you how to do that and what the game plan
>> is for the meal.
>>
>> So whoever recommended this book to me (I can't remember), thanks but no
>> thanks!
>
> I'm the one who recommended the book. I stand by my recommendation. Your
> objection seems to be that the instructions are written too clearly, which
> strikes me as a bizarre thing to complain about.
>
> The book is "big on fish dishes" because fish cooks quickly. Did you
> expect to see some secret method of cooking an entire brisket in 20
> minutes?
>
> The author doesn't assume you don't know how to cut up vegetables. She
> advocates buying pre-cut vegetables to save you time in the kitchen. You
> are of course free to cut up your own vegetables, realizing that doing so
> will cost you some time while saving you some money.

Well to me buying precut things isn't really cooking. Of course I could
cook something in 20 minutes if I were to do that.

My point was there wasn't a thing in that book that we would eat that I
don't already know how to cook, and I don't need a recipe for it.

I stand by what I said. That book is meant for people who don't know how to
cook.

Julie wrote about _20-Minute Menus_:

> My point was there wasn't a thing in that book that we would eat that I
> don't already know how to cook, and I don't need a recipe for it.

Really? What's your recipe for lentil-and-cauliflower curry?

Bob

"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in message
eb.com...
> Julie wrote about _20-Minute Menus_:
>
>> My point was there wasn't a thing in that book that we would eat that I
>> don't already know how to cook, and I don't need a recipe for it.
>
> Really? What's your recipe for lentil-and-cauliflower curry?

I said "That we would eat". I don't cook lentils any more. My daughter is
allergic to them and they spike my blood sugar. I also don't eat curry.

Julie wrote:

>>> My point was there wasn't a thing in that book that we would eat that I
>>> don't already know how to cook, and I don't need a recipe for it.
>>
>> Really? What's your recipe for lentil-and-cauliflower curry?
>
> I said "That we would eat". I don't cook lentils any more. My daughter
> is allergic to them and they spike my blood sugar. I also don't eat
> curry.

Seems like you'll never need a cookbook: You already know how to cook
everything THAT YOU WOULD EAT. Of course, that qualifier diminishes your
potential meals to a very, very small set.

Bob

"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in message
eb.com...
> Julie wrote:
>
>>>> My point was there wasn't a thing in that book that we would eat that I
>>>> don't already know how to cook, and I don't need a recipe for it.
>>>
>>> Really? What's your recipe for lentil-and-cauliflower curry?
>>
>> I said "That we would eat". I don't cook lentils any more. My daughter
>> is allergic to them and they spike my blood sugar. I also don't eat
>> curry.
>
> Seems like you'll never need a cookbook: You already know how to cook
> everything THAT YOU WOULD EAT. Of course, that qualifier diminishes your
> potential meals to a very, very small set.

We do not eat a very varied diet. Between the food allergies and our likes
and dislikes that doesn't leave a lot.

I generally don't use cookbooks. I might need to refer to one to see how
long to cook a certain cut of meat. And if making certain candies or doing
baking (which won't be happening any more) then I would need a recipe.