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Wow! I just had my first Donut Peach [aka Bagel, Saturn, Flattened,
etc]. Wikipedia says they became popular in the 1990s-- I guess i haven't been paying attention. I asked the farmer at the stand what the deal was with these little things and he said they taste just like the white peaches, but are smaller and easier to eat without getting a juice bath. Well-- If that's what a white peach tastes like- they are some *SWEET* peaches. Seems like somebody was asking recently if it made a difference if they used white or yellow peaches in a cobbler. If these little guys are any indication, I'd say yes. Save the white ones for eating and use the yellows for cooking. Are all the white peaches very sweet? These were less fuzzy than the ones I grow in the backyard. All I know about the variety of mine is that they are yellow and freestone. Jim |
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On 2011-08-17, Jim Elbrecht > wrote:
> Are all the white peaches very sweet? Almost all the "white" produce (corn, nectarines, peaches, etc) are sweet or even extra-sweet and super-sweet hybrids. Hybrids going more for sweet than flavor. Usually flavor is better for use in a pie/cobbler. Better to have flavor and add sweet in the form of sugar. Otherwise, I agree. Whites are great for eating raw or topping breakfast cereal/oatmeal. > These were less fuzzy than the ones I grow in the backyard. I wondered about that, too. Is this a new harvesting process or have they been genetically modified to have no fuzz? nb |
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On 2011-08-18, James Silverton > wrote:
> So far I've seen three varieties or colors of donut peaches at a local > farmer's market. They've all been good! Congratulations. You've just replied to a post that made absolutely no mention of donut peaches. If you were trying to reply to the previous poster's attributed quotes, you hosed that, too. nb |
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On 2011-08-18, Christine Dabney > wrote:
> Donut peaches are often white peaches. So it is related to the topic. > Christine Here we go!! Yes! Jump in anywhere. Jes post any ol' thing, any ol' place, regardless of who said what. Totally dismiss whatever I said. I'm nobody. Post a reply to some guy eight posts back in a thread that may have drifted 3 subjects away, by now. We'll all do our best to muddle through, somehow, and make sense of whatever you say. Usenetiquette rules be damned! Chris has spoken and given thread chaos her blessing. Thank you, oh mighty Chris. nb |
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On 18 Aug 2011 02:11:37 GMT, notbob > wrote:
> Usenetiquette rules be damned! Chris has spoken and given thread > chaos her blessing. Thank you, oh mighty Chris. Take a pill, nb. You're over the top. -- I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila |
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![]() "notbob" > wrote in message ... > On 2011-08-18, Christine Dabney > wrote: > >> Donut peaches are often white peaches. So it is related to the topic. >> Christine > > Here we go!! > > Yes! Jump in anywhere. Jes post any ol' thing, any ol' place, > regardless of who said what. Totally dismiss whatever I said. I'm > nobody. Post a reply to some guy eight posts back in a thread that > may have drifted 3 subjects away, by now. We'll all do our best to > muddle through, somehow, and make sense of whatever you say. > > Usenetiquette rules be damned! Chris has spoken and given thread > chaos her blessing. Thank you, oh mighty Chris. > > nb What's wrong with you? You used to be a nice guy. If donut peaches (never heard of them) are white peaches (never heard of or saw them, either) then it's perfectly within the scope of the original thread. If not, consider it "thread drift" and get over it. They're still talking about peaches. Jill |
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Leon Manfredi > wrote:
>On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 18:18:22 -0400, Jim Elbrecht > wrote: > >>Wow! I just had my first Donut Peach [aka Bagel, Saturn, Flattened, >>etc]. Wikipedia says they became popular in the 1990s-- I guess >>i haven't been paying attention. -snip- > >Now I'm confused...... Nectarines, maybe? Nope. They're peaches. I thought I was the last person to hear about them- but apparently not. Here's MotherEarth's take on them from 2009. The trees are hardy enough for me to try some in zone 5. http://www.motherearthnews.com/Real-...nut-Peach.aspx And here's what the nursery says about them http://www.millernurseries.com/cart....t_detail&p=868 "Saturn is a new flat, donut shaped peach that is rapidly becoming the most popular variety of peach available. All you have to do is bite into one of these very sweet, white, delicious peaches to know why. More sugar and less acid, Saturn has a more delicate and sweeter flavor than yellow peaches. Tender, semi-red skin, Saturn is excellent for out of hand eating. Delicious when canned, dried and used for desserts. " I can taste the dried ones now-- I don't really have room for a standard tree-- but I'll be looking for a spot [on somebody's property] to put one in next spring. they are yummy. [But I wouldn't cook with them.] Jim |
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On 2011-08-18, jmcquown > wrote:
> What's wrong with you? You used to be a nice guy. I know it's disconcerting when one of the guys forgets his place and starts getting all uppity and challenges the B3hive. But, not to worry. I'm still a nice guy and will continue to act nicely to those who treat me nicely. Pretty simple concept, wouldn't you say. ![]() nb |
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notbob wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> On 2011-08-18, James Silverton > wrote: > > So far I've seen three varieties or colors of donut peaches at a > > local farmer's market. They've all been good! > > Congratulations. You've just replied to a post that made absolutely > no mention of donut peaches. If you were trying to reply to the > previous poster's attributed quotes, you hosed that, too. A discussion on peaches, he brings up a generally whiter fleshed variety called donut peaches. http://tinyurl.com/3wotbqx -- |
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notbob wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> On 2011-08-18, Christine Dabney > wrote: > > > Donut peaches are often white peaches. So it is related to the > > topic. Christine > > Here we go!! > > Yes! Jump in anywhere. Jes post any ol' thing, any ol' place, > regardless of who said what. Totally dismiss whatever I said. I'm > nobody. Post a reply to some guy eight posts back in a thread that > may have drifted 3 subjects away, by now. We'll all do our best to > muddle through, somehow, and make sense of whatever you say. > > Usenetiquette rules be damned! Chris has spoken and given thread > chaos her blessing. Thank you, oh mighty Chris. Usenet is a freeform social place for discussion. Threads morf all the time. James only brought in a new version of peaches to it. In fact, that verson is easier to peel and make peach jams and chutney's of. -- |
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jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> If donut peaches > (never heard of them) are white peaches (never heard of or saw them, > either) then it's perfectly within the scope of the original thread. > If not, consider it "thread drift" and get over it. They're still > talking about peaches. I posted a link to the pictures of them. The name comes from the shape which is roughly like a donut. They sell them here sometimes and i get them for making jams. The ones here are a bit firmer and the flesh is more to the whiter scale (at least the ones I see here, not sure if that's true of all of them). They are easier to peel and chop. -- |
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On 8/18/2011 10:23 AM, cshenk wrote:
> jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking: > >> If donut peaches >> (never heard of them) are white peaches (never heard of or saw them, >> either) then it's perfectly within the scope of the original thread. >> If not, consider it "thread drift" and get over it. They're still >> talking about peaches. > > I posted a link to the pictures of them. The name comes from the shape > which is roughly like a donut. They sell them here sometimes and i get > them for making jams. The ones here are a bit firmer and the flesh is > more to the whiter scale (at least the ones I see here, not sure if > that's true of all of them). They are easier to peel and chop. > As I mentioned, not all donut peaches are white. The really yellow ones are pretty good too. -- James Silverton, Potomac I'm *not* |
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On 18 Aug 2011 12:42:09 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>On 2011-08-18, jmcquown > wrote: > >> What's wrong with you? You used to be a nice guy. > >I know it's disconcerting when one of the guys forgets his place and >starts getting all uppity and challenges the B3hive. But, not to >worry. I'm still a nice guy and will continue to act nicely to those >who treat me nicely. Pretty simple concept, wouldn't you say. ![]() I've never seen anyone not treat you nicely unless you have a meltdown. BTW, you're having one now. Lou |
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On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:28:47 -0400, James Silverton
> wrote: >On 8/18/2011 10:23 AM, cshenk wrote: >> jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking: -snip- >As I mentioned, not all donut peaches are white. The really yellow ones >are pretty good too. And does it follow that the yellow ones are more tart than the white ones? I'd be torn then, on whether to get a white or yellow for the backyard. Jim |
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On 8/18/2011 11:42 AM, Jim Elbrecht wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:28:47 -0400, James Silverton > > wrote: > >> On 8/18/2011 10:23 AM, cshenk wrote: >>> jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking: > -snip- > >> As I mentioned, not all donut peaches are white. The really yellow ones >> are pretty good too. > > > And does it follow that the yellow ones are more tart than the white > ones? I'd be torn then, on whether to get a white or yellow > for the backyard. > > Jim Now you've got me. I've only had the various donut peaches from a local Farmers' Market and I bought only one variety at a time. The peaches were not completely ripe and I had to wait a few days to eat them. -- James Silverton, Potomac I'm *not* |
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On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 05:34:03 -0400, "jmcquown" >
wrote: > > "notbob" > wrote in message > ... > > On 2011-08-18, Christine Dabney > wrote: > > > >> Donut peaches are often white peaches. So it is related to the topic. > >> Christine > > > > Here we go!! > > > > Yes! Jump in anywhere. Jes post any ol' thing, any ol' place, > > regardless of who said what. Totally dismiss whatever I said. I'm > > nobody. Post a reply to some guy eight posts back in a thread that > > may have drifted 3 subjects away, by now. We'll all do our best to > > muddle through, somehow, and make sense of whatever you say. > > > > Usenetiquette rules be damned! Chris has spoken and given thread > > chaos her blessing. Thank you, oh mighty Chris. > > > > nb > > > What's wrong with you? You used to be a nice guy. If donut peaches (never > heard of them) are white peaches (never heard of or saw them, either) then > it's perfectly within the scope of the original thread. If not, consider it > "thread drift" and get over it. They're still talking about peaches. > You forget Jill, he's right and everyone else is wrong. -- I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila |
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On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 11:42:57 -0400, Jim Elbrecht >
wrote: > On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:28:47 -0400, James Silverton > > wrote: > > >On 8/18/2011 10:23 AM, cshenk wrote: > >> jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking: > -snip- > > >As I mentioned, not all donut peaches are white. The really yellow ones > >are pretty good too. > > > And does it follow that the yellow ones are more tart than the white > ones? I'd be torn then, on whether to get a white or yellow > for the backyard. > I pretty much don't eat white peaches except to remind myself why I don't eat them. They don't taste like peaches, they're just sweet. I prefer the peachy flavor of yellow peaches. -- I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila |
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James Silverton wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> On 8/18/2011 10:23 AM, cshenk wrote: > > jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking: > > > > > If donut peaches > > > (never heard of them) are white peaches (never heard of or saw > > > them, either) then it's perfectly within the scope of the > > > original thread. If not, consider it "thread drift" and get over > > > it. They're still talking about peaches. > > > > I posted a link to the pictures of them. The name comes from the > > shape which is roughly like a donut. They sell them here sometimes > > and i get them for making jams. The ones here are a bit firmer and > > the flesh is more to the whiter scale (at least the ones I see > > here, not sure if that's true of all of them). They are easier to > > peel and chop. > > > As I mentioned, not all donut peaches are white. The really yellow > ones are pretty good too. Ok! I seem to get the mostly white sort here. Local crop I suspect. -- |
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On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 18:18:22 -0400, Jim Elbrecht >
wrote: >Wow! I just had my first Donut Peach [aka Bagel, Saturn, Flattened, >etc]. Wikipedia says they became popular in the 1990s-- I guess >i haven't been paying attention. I asked the farmer at the stand >what the deal was with these little things and he said they taste just >like the white peaches, but are smaller and easier to eat without >getting a juice bath. > >Well-- If that's what a white peach tastes like- they are some *SWEET* >peaches. > >Seems like somebody was asking recently if it made a difference if >they used white or yellow peaches in a cobbler. If these little >guys are any indication, I'd say yes. Save the white ones for >eating and use the yellows for cooking. > >Are all the white peaches very sweet? > >These were less fuzzy than the ones I grow in the backyard. All I >know about the variety of mine is that they are yellow and freestone. Must be more than one variety of white peach. My DIL's father has a white peach tree that bears profusely. The fruit from it are, without a doubt, the most bland, tasteless peach I've ever tried. Ross. |
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On Aug 18, 10:25*am, sf > wrote:
> I pretty much don't eat white peaches except to remind myself why I > don't eat them. *They don't taste like peaches, they're just sweet. *I > prefer the peachy flavor of yellow peaches. Yes! I do agree with yellows being far more peach-flavorful. Those are abundant at my grocer right now and eat at least one of them each day. I wish I were into canning and jams like me moms was. When I was just big enough to be at table top eye level, Daddy built us a "canning table" to set on the back lawn (under the clothes lines) where the uncles and aunts were stationed as the prep squad when Mom and Gramma were canning and jamming. Such happy, happy memories of family, most all of which have gone on to next by now. ....Picky |
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notbob wrote:
> > I wondered about that, too. Is this a new harvesting process or have > they been genetically modified to have no fuzz? There are white nectarines too. Maybe that's what you had. Both white peaches and nectarines are scarce in some parts because they don't ship well. They bruise easily. |
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Ross@home wrote:
> > Must be more than one variety of white peach. > My DIL's father has a white peach tree that bears profusely. The > fruit > from it are, without a doubt, the most bland, tasteless peach I've > ever tried. > > Ross. I always found white peaches pretty tasteless until a week or so ago, when I tried one (no fuzz and freestone) and it was sweet and delicious. Someone has done something right. Dora |
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On 2011-08-18, Mark Thorson > wrote:
> There are white nectarines too. Maybe that's what > you had. Maybe you should read the post. |
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On Aug 18, 5:29*pm, notbob > wrote:
> On 2011-08-18, Mark Thorson > wrote: > > > There are white nectarines too. *Maybe that's what > > you had. > > Maybe you should read the post. * ***Hey snot.bob, maybe you should be a bit more civil! |
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On Aug 17, 6:18*pm, Jim Elbrecht > wrote:
> Wow! * I just had my first Donut Peach [aka Bagel, Saturn, Flattened, > etc]. * * * Wikipedia says they became popular in the 1990s-- I guess > i haven't been paying attention. * * *I asked the farmer at the stand > what the deal was with these little things and he said they taste just > like the white peaches, but are smaller and easier to eat without > getting a juice bath. > > Well-- If that's what a white peach tastes like- they are some *SWEET* > peaches. > > Seems like somebody was asking recently if it made a difference if > they used white or yellow peaches in a cobbler. * * If these little > guys are any indication, I'd say yes. * * Save the white ones for > eating and use the yellows for cooking. > > Are all the white peaches very sweet? * > > These were less fuzzy than the ones I grow in the backyard. * All I > know about the variety of mine is that they are yellow and freestone. > > Jim I never knew there were any such thing as white peaches. I've never seen them. Lucille |
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On Aug 19, 8:12*am, Lucille > wrote:
> On Aug 17, 6:18*pm, Jim Elbrecht > wrote: > > > > > > > Wow! * I just had my first Donut Peach [aka Bagel, Saturn, Flattened, > > etc]. * * * Wikipedia says they became popular in the 1990s-- I guess > > i haven't been paying attention. * * *I asked the farmer at the stand > > what the deal was with these little things and he said they taste just > > like the white peaches, but are smaller and easier to eat without > > getting a juice bath. > > > Well-- If that's what a white peach tastes like- they are some *SWEET* > > peaches. > > > Seems like somebody was asking recently if it made a difference if > > they used white or yellow peaches in a cobbler. * * If these little > > guys are any indication, I'd say yes. * * Save the white ones for > > eating and use the yellows for cooking. > > > Are all the white peaches very sweet? * > > > These were less fuzzy than the ones I grow in the backyard. * All I > > know about the variety of mine is that they are yellow and freestone. > > > Jim > > I never knew there were any such thing as white peaches. *I've never > seen them. > > * * * * * * * *Lucille- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I forgot to ask........ does anyone know why some yellow peaches are dry and gritty? I've even had some that were nice and juicy with parts of it dry and gritty. That part taste terrible. Lucille |
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Lucille wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> On Aug 17, 6:18*pm, Jim Elbrecht > wrote: > > Wow! * I just had my first Donut Peach [aka Bagel, Saturn, > > Flattened, etc]. * * * Wikipedia says they became popular in the > > 1990s-- I guess i haven't been paying attention. * * *I asked the > > farmer at the stand what the deal was with these little things and > > he said they taste just like the white peaches, but are smaller and > > easier to eat without getting a juice bath. > > > > Well-- If that's what a white peach tastes like- they are some SWEET > > peaches. > > > > Seems like somebody was asking recently if it made a difference if > > they used white or yellow peaches in a cobbler. * * If these little > > guys are any indication, I'd say yes. * * Save the white ones for > > eating and use the yellows for cooking. > > > > Are all the white peaches very sweet? * > > > > These were less fuzzy than the ones I grow in the backyard. * All I > > know about the variety of mine is that they are yellow and > > freestone. > > > > Jim > > I never knew there were any such thing as white peaches. I've never > seen them. The flesh is a paler creamy color (I've not seen true white) and the outsides often don't look any different. Lots of types of them though. -- |
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Lucille wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> On Aug 19, 8:12*am, Lucille > wrote: > > On Aug 17, 6:18*pm, Jim Elbrecht > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wow! * I just had my first Donut Peach [aka Bagel, Saturn, > > > Flattened, etc]. * * * Wikipedia says they became popular in the > > > 1990s-- I guess i haven't been paying attention. * * *I asked the > > > farmer at the stand what the deal was with these little things > > > and he said they taste just like the white peaches, but are > > > smaller and easier to eat without getting a juice bath. > > > > > Well-- If that's what a white peach tastes like- they are some > > > SWEET peaches. > > > > > Seems like somebody was asking recently if it made a difference if > > > they used white or yellow peaches in a cobbler. * * If these > > > little guys are any indication, I'd say yes. * * Save the white > > > ones for eating and use the yellows for cooking. > > > > > Are all the white peaches very sweet? * > > > > > These were less fuzzy than the ones I grow in the backyard. * All > > > I know about the variety of mine is that they are yellow and > > > freestone. > > > > > Jim > > > > I never knew there were any such thing as white peaches. *I've never > > seen them. > > > > * * * * * * * *Lucille- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > I forgot to ask........ does anyone know why some yellow peaches are > dry and gritty? > I've even had some that were nice and juicy with parts of it dry and > gritty. > That part taste terrible. I know under ripe ones can be like that. Select softer ones to avoid that. That or ripen on the counter for a few days. -- |
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![]() "Lucille" > wrote > > I forgot to ask........ does anyone know why some yellow peaches are > dry and gritty? > I've even had some that were nice and juicy with parts of it dry and > gritty. > That part taste terrible. > > Lucille If they are chilled during the ripening process that can happen. You don't want to take them below 50 degrees. There may be other factors Buying peaches these days is a crap shoot. I rarely buy them in the supermarket for that reason; I've had good looking crappy tasting ones too often. Local peaches picked ripe are better. |
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James Silverton > wrote:
>On 8/18/2011 11:42 AM, Jim Elbrecht wrote: >> On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:28:47 -0400, James Silverton >> > wrote: >> >>> On 8/18/2011 10:23 AM, cshenk wrote: >>>> jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking: >> -snip- >> >>> As I mentioned, not all donut peaches are white. The really yellow ones >>> are pretty good too. >> >> >> And does it follow that the yellow ones are more tart than the white >> ones? I'd be torn then, on whether to get a white or yellow >> for the backyard. >> >> Jim >Now you've got me. I've only had the various donut peaches from a local >Farmers' Market and I bought only one variety at a time. The peaches >were not completely ripe and I had to wait a few days to eat them. Then the difference wasn't as dramatic as my yellow whatevers- and the white donut peach. I like both-- but I think the yellows are more versatile. I've got until February or so to look into it-- and from what I've seen so far, the NY nurseries only have white, so maybe the yellows aren't hardy up here. Jim |
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In article >,
Jim Elbrecht > wrote: snipped > > I've got until February or so to look into it-- and from what I've > seen so far, the NY nurseries only have white, so maybe the yellows > aren't hardy up here. > Depends on where you are in NYS. The area between Oswego and Rochester had numerous peach orchards when I was growing up. Additionally, the microclimates around the Finger Lakes that allow vinifera grapes to be grown would support peaches. I'd strongly suggest getting more than one tree, based on my experience with the apricot tree on the back 40 of our yard. The trees may not be self-pollinating. Cindy -- C.J. Fuller Delete the obvious to email me |
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On 8/20/2011 11:25 AM, Cindy Fuller wrote:
> In >, > Jim > wrote: > > snipped >> >> I've got until February or so to look into it-- and from what I've >> seen so far, the NY nurseries only have white, so maybe the yellows >> aren't hardy up here. >> > Depends on where you are in NYS. The area between Oswego and Rochester > had numerous peach orchards when I was growing up. Additionally, the > microclimates around the Finger Lakes that allow vinifera grapes to be > grown would support peaches. I'd strongly suggest getting more than one > tree, based on my experience with the apricot tree on the back 40 of our > yard. The trees may not be self-pollinating. > I think donut peaches are self-pollinating but a lot of the information on the 'net is incomplete. It is often assumed that there is only one (white) variety. A local farmers' market had three types two days ago: green, red-blushed and yellow. None were fully ripe but there was a beautiful odor from my fruit bowl this morning where the yellow ones had ripened. The one I had was great! -- James Silverton, Potomac I'm *not* |
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On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 08:25:36 -0700, Cindy Fuller
> wrote: >In article >, > Jim Elbrecht > wrote: > >snipped >> >> I've got until February or so to look into it-- and from what I've >> seen so far, the NY nurseries only have white, so maybe the yellows >> aren't hardy up here. >> >Depends on where you are in NYS. The area between Oswego and Rochester >had numerous peach orchards when I was growing up. Additionally, the >microclimates around the Finger Lakes that allow vinifera grapes to be >grown would support peaches. I'd strongly suggest getting more than one >tree, based on my experience with the apricot tree on the back 40 of our >yard. The trees may not be self-pollinating. I meant the donut varieties-- but I've got plenty of time to look. I'm near where the Mohawk hits the Hudson & have a single peach tree [yellow] in my back yard. The other half of the pair got murdered by rabbits before it bore fruit-- and that year the one I had left had a bumper crop so I never replaced the other one. Might just be this [forgotten] variety- but it seems to like living alone. There are a couple of local peach orchards - I should probably go to one of them and pick their brains a bit. Jim |
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On 21/08/2011 6:12 PM, Ranee at Arabian Knits wrote:
> > Yes, which is part of why I don't care for them as much. They are > less full of flavor and more full of sugar. White cranberries, > nectarines and other produce seem the same to me. Something about > breeding the color out seems to take the flavor with it. Add Queen Anne cherries to the list. IMO they lack that nice sweet cherry taste. |
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White Nectarines & Peaches??? | General Cooking | |||
Summertime White Peaches | General Cooking | |||
White wine with peaches? | Wine |