On 9/1/2011 5:24 AM, Andy wrote:
> Becca,
>
> Sadly, I didn't win yesterday's lottery so our paradise in the sand will
> have to wait until Saturday. OK?
>
> Best,
>
> Andy

Andy, I am wishing you the best of luck. :-)


Becca

On Aug 31, 3:53*pm, "l, not -l" > wrote:
> On 31-Aug-2011, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>
> > > Yeah... he can be a PITA, but the newsgroup isn't the same without him.
>
> > Awww you are such a softie <g>
>
> IMO, it's been a long time since Sheldon was the worst RFC had to offer;
> there are a few I would rate as bigger PITA.
> --
>
> Change Cujo to Juno in email address.

Well, he got kicked out of his various ISPs so many times, he's had to
(relatively) clean up his act, although now and then he forgets and
reverts to his really nasty old self.

N.

Prolly havin' a funeral for a cat. Or, lovin' one. PETA doesn't involve bestiality, right?

Dude eats meat. Nothing ethical about that process. Maybe not the same; I do miss him pretending to be an expert regarding things about which he's totally ignorant. Chinese mustard was my favorite one. Talk totally opposite of his purveryor. Meemoriiiiies. Come back, our little Navy bean.

In the immortal words of Shel: "ahahahhahahahaha!"

You're quite right. He's prolly trying to get off the vikes. Or, taking the photo of a lovely deer.

He does hang around like a bad fart.

Sqwertz wrote:

> On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 10:47:34 -0700 (PDT), projectile vomit chick
> wrote:
>
>
>>I was wondering the same, hope all is well.
>
>
> WTF? You stop smoking and get nice all the sudden?
>
> -sw

*Chuckle* you 3 should just get a room and contain your passion for
each other there in

On 9/2/2011 10:52 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> He has his own propane tank, well water, and septic tank. Last ting
> he needs is a generator (which he may have).


A well doesn't do you any good if you don't have electricity to run the
pump.

If I were Sheldon living in a rural area like that, I would have a
generator.

George L

On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 11:10:28 -0500, George Leppla
> wrote:

>
>Haven't seen any posts from Sheldon since Hurricane Irene blew through
>his part of NY.
>
>I did a quick search for his local newspaper and it looks like 53,000
>people in that area are till without power and may not get it until Sunday.
>
>http://www.thedailymail.net/articles...1922895808.txt
>
>I know that area well and it is very rural, so 53,000 people cover a lot
>of square miles and thousands of miles of power lines.
>
>Yeah... he can be a PITA, but the newsgroup isn't the same without him.
>
>George L

What this thread has proved to me is that Sheldon is as necessary as
breathing air to a bunch of you men. You don't know what to do
without him. He's not here so you have to post drivel about him.
Janet US

"George Leppla" > wrote in message
...
> On 9/2/2011 10:52 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> He has his own propane tank, well water, and septic tank. Last ting
>> he needs is a generator (which he may have).
>
>
> A well doesn't do you any good if you don't have electricity to run the
> pump.
>
> If I were Sheldon living in a rural area like that, I would have a
> generator.
>

If I were Sheldon, I couldn't live with myself.

On 9/3/2011 7:49 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 11:10:28 -0500, George Leppla
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> Haven't seen any posts from Sheldon since Hurricane Irene blew through
>> his part of NY.
>>
>> I did a quick search for his local newspaper and it looks like 53,000
>> people in that area are till without power and may not get it until Sunday.
>>
>> http://www.thedailymail.net/articles...1922895808.txt
>>
>> I know that area well and it is very rural, so 53,000 people cover a lot
>> of square miles and thousands of miles of power lines.
>>
>> Yeah... he can be a PITA, but the newsgroup isn't the same without him.
>>
>> George L
>
> What this thread has proved to me is that Sheldon is as necessary as
> breathing air to a bunch of you men. You don't know what to do
> without him. He's not here so you have to post drivel about him.
> Janet US


Wow. A bit harsh, no? Not your usual style. Do you really think I
don't know what to do without Sheldon?

I also fail to see how pointing out that someone who lives in a
hurricane area hasn't been heard from is "drivel".

YMMV.....

George L

On 9/2/2011 11:31 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 10:48:47 -0700 (PDT), projectile vomit chick
> wrote:
>
>> On Aug 31, 11:42 am, > wrote:
>>
>>> awwwww....c'mon(she said smiling at the remark)....anyone who loves
>>> animals as much as Sheldon does cannot be all bad. Besides I think
>>> he comes on like a total ass just to **** you guys off !
>>
>> I agree, and I think it's hilarious.
>
> You people need lessons in psychology. He really believes most of his
> bullshit.
>
> -sw

+1

On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 10:58:48 -0500, George Leppla
> wrote:

>On 9/3/2011 7:49 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>> On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 11:10:28 -0500, George Leppla
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Haven't seen any posts from Sheldon since Hurricane Irene blew through
>>> his part of NY.
>>>
>>> I did a quick search for his local newspaper and it looks like 53,000
>>> people in that area are till without power and may not get it until Sunday.
>>>
>>> http://www.thedailymail.net/articles...1922895808.txt
>>>
>>> I know that area well and it is very rural, so 53,000 people cover a lot
>>> of square miles and thousands of miles of power lines.
>>>
>>> Yeah... he can be a PITA, but the newsgroup isn't the same without him.
>>>
>>> George L
>>
>> What this thread has proved to me is that Sheldon is as necessary as
>> breathing air to a bunch of you men. You don't know what to do
>> without him. He's not here so you have to post drivel about him.
>> Janet US
>
>
>Wow. A bit harsh, no? Not your usual style. Do you really think I
>don't know what to do without Sheldon?
>
>I also fail to see how pointing out that someone who lives in a
>hurricane area hasn't been heard from is "drivel".
>
>YMMV.....
>
>George L

I was not speaking to you, but the general tone of the thread. I was
wondering about him too and thank you for enquiring. That wasn't the
drivel I meant.

Yes, I am a bit harsh today, someone set me off and I lost my 'play
nice with others' cap.

sorry
Janet US

On 9/3/2011 11:33 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> Yes, I am a bit harsh today, someone set me off and I lost my 'play
> nice with others' cap.


Momma said there'd be days like this
There'd be days like this, my Momma said!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8SD9baVPKw

I know the feeling....

George L

On Sep 2, 8:30*pm, Sqwertz > wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 09:42:52 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags wrote:
> > awwwww....c'mon(she said smiling at the remark)....anyone who loves
> > animals as much as Sheldon does cannot be all bad. * *Besides I think
> > he comes on like a total ass just to **** you guys off !
>
> People who can be that much of an ass online really are assholes in
> real life, too.
>
> -sw

Speaking from experience again?

On Sep 2, 8:31*pm, Sqwertz > wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 10:48:47 -0700 (PDT), projectile vomit chick
> wrote:
>
> > On Aug 31, 11:42*am, ImStillMags > wrote:
>
> >> awwwww....c'mon(shesaid smiling at the remark)....anyone who loves
> >> animals as much as Sheldon does cannot be all bad. * *Besides I think
> >> he comes on like a total ass just to **** you guys off !
>
> > I agree, and I think it's hilarious.
>
> You people need lessons in psychology. *He really believes most of his
> bullshit.
>
> -sw

and you believe most of yours.

On 03/09/2011 1:25 PM, Chemo the Clown wrote:
> On Sep 2, 8:30 pm, > wrote:
>> On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 09:42:52 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags wrote:
>>> awwwww....c'mon(she said smiling at the remark)....anyone who loves
>>> animals as much as Sheldon does cannot be all bad. Besides I think
>>> he comes on like a total ass just to **** you guys off !
>>
>> People who can be that much of an ass online really are assholes in
>> real life, too.
>>
>> -sw
>
> Speaking from experience again?

I might say that is a pot and kettle from sqwertz, but Sheldon is not
in my KF.

On Wednesday, August 31, 2011 11:42:52 AM UTC-5, ImStillMags wrote:
> On Aug 31, 9:39*am, "Paul M. Cook"
> wrote:
>
> >
> > I'm always amazed at how charitable people are towards somebody who should
> > probably be in a prison hospital where he can't hurt himself or anyone else.
> >
> > Paul
>
> awwwww....c'mon (she said smiling at the remark)....anyone who loves
> animals as much as Sheldon does cannot be all bad. Besides I think
> he comes on like a total ass just to **** you guys off !

More likely he is a "total ass," but I don't see him as a dangerous person at all. Sometimes he seems mentally ill, but not all crazy people are a danger to themselves or others.

--Bryan

On Wednesday, August 31, 2011 4:51:48 PM UTC-5, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "Christine Dabney" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 10:48:47 -0700 (PDT), projectile vomit chick
> >
> wrote:
> >
> >>On Aug 31, 11:42 am, ImStillMags > wrote:
> >>> On Aug 31, 9:39 am, "Paul M. Cook"
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > I'm always amazed at how charitable people are towards somebody who
> >>> > should
> >>> > probably be in a prison hospital where he can't hurt himself or anyone
> >>> > else.
> >>>
> >>> > Paul
> >>>
> >>> awwwww....c'mon(she said smiling at the remark)....anyone who loves
> >>> animals as much as Sheldon does cannot be all bad. Besides I think
> >>> he comes on like a total ass just to **** you guys off !
> >>
> >>I agree, and I think it's hilarious.
> >
> > I agree too. I think he does it to get folks riled up.
>
> Then again maybe he means it.
>
> > I hope he is okay. I have been wondering about him as well. Does his
> > property have a stream? I seem to remember it having one..I hope it
> > didn't flood too much. I think I saw something about upper NY state
> > getting flooded more than they expected.
>
> OK, so if I start calling women f&^%$g c6^%$s and make rude statements about
> their body parts, I can be popular too?

Maybe, but perhaps you'd have to also be hostile toward Italian and Irish Americans, AND you'd have to be able to afford a nice plot of land, because that commands respect.
>
> Paul

--Bryan

On 9/3/2011 10:51 PM, Bryan wrote:
> Maybe, but perhaps you'd have to also be hostile toward Italian and Irish Americans, AND you'd have to be able to afford a nice plot of land, because that commands respect.


Owning s piece of land doesn't command any respect.... just takes money.
But I do have respect for people who take care of the land and the
critters that live on it.

The way I see it, people's personalities are made up of a few
components: Good, bullshit and evil. The "good" part is the largest,
the "evil" part is the smallest. "Bullshit" is the variable that makes
the biggest difference in how others perceive us. Too much bullshit
doesn't necessarily make a person evil.... but it sure can obscure the good.

I think Sheldon is probably a pretty good person, but that often gets
obscured because his bullshit quotient is so high.

And that is my Sunday Morning Pop Psychology lesson for this week.

George L

On Sat, 3 Sep 2011 16:26:24 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 07:34:57 -0500, George Leppla wrote:
>
>> On 9/2/2011 10:52 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> He has his own propane tank, well water, and septic tank. Last ting
>>> he needs is a generator (which he may have).
>>
>> A well doesn't do you any good if you don't have electricity to run the
>> pump.
>>
>> If I were Sheldon living in a rural area like that, I would have a
>> generator.
>
>The people who had wells in my old neighborhood always had a hand
>operated option as well.
>
>-sw

Hand pumps will only work to a depth of about 22 feet so they're only
good on shallow wells.

Ross

On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 10:15:15 -0400, Ross@home wrote:

>On Sat, 3 Sep 2011 16:26:24 -0500, Sqwertz >
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 07:34:57 -0500, George Leppla wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/2/2011 10:52 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> He has his own propane tank, well water, and septic tank. Last ting
>>>> he needs is a generator (which he may have).
>>>
>>> A well doesn't do you any good if you don't have electricity to run the
>>> pump.
>>>
>>> If I were Sheldon living in a rural area like that, I would have a
>>> generator.
>>
>>The people who had wells in my old neighborhood always had a hand
>>operated option as well.
>>
>>-sw
>
>Hand pumps will only work to a depth of about 22 feet so they're only
>good on shallow wells.
>

Not true-
http://www.survivalunlimited.com/handwaterpumpdeep.htm

350' is the claimed limit on that page-- Even adjusting that to 250-
that covers most folks.

Jim

On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 10:23:06 -0400, Jim Elbrecht >
wrote:

>On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 10:15:15 -0400, Ross@home wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 3 Sep 2011 16:26:24 -0500, Sqwertz >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 07:34:57 -0500, George Leppla wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/2/2011 10:52 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>> He has his own propane tank, well water, and septic tank. Last ting
>>>>> he needs is a generator (which he may have).
>>>>
>>>> A well doesn't do you any good if you don't have electricity to run the
>>>> pump.
>>>>
>>>> If I were Sheldon living in a rural area like that, I would have a
>>>> generator.
>>>
>>>The people who had wells in my old neighborhood always had a hand
>>>operated option as well.
>>>
>>>-sw
>>
>>Hand pumps will only work to a depth of about 22 feet so they're only
>>good on shallow wells.
>>
>
>Not true-
>http://www.survivalunlimited.com/handwaterpumpdeep.htm
>
>350' is the claimed limit on that page-- Even adjusting that to 250-
>that covers most folks.
>
>Jim

Interesting either way. . .never thought about it, just pumped until
ice cold water splashed out into the speckled tin cup hanging beside
the pump handle.
Janet US

Ross@home wrote:
>Sqwertz wrote:
>>George Leppla wrote:
>>>Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> He has his own propane tank, well water, and septic tank. Last ting
>>>> he needs is a generator (which he may have).
>>>
>>> A well doesn't do you any good if you don't have electricity to run the
>>> pump.
>>>
>>> If I were Sheldon living in a rural area like that, I would have a
>>> generator.
>>
>>The people who had wells in my old neighborhood always had a hand
>>operated option as well.
>
>Hand pumps will only work to a depth of about 22 feet so they're only
>good on shallow wells.

That's true, and shallow well water is as poor quality as run off...
it's good for irrigating crops and may be okay for cleaning/bathing
but rarely is ground water potable without boiling. I've often
thought about getting a generator but I really don't need one, they
can be more trouble than they are worth; another thing that requires
maintenence and fuel storage... a decent size portable can easily use
10-15 gallons a day. And since I heat with propane I've considered a
propane stand-by system but this being the first outage that lasted
more than a few hours I can't see spending the $10,000+ for something
I really don't need. I was without electric for almost four days and
lost nothing from my fridge/freezer, just didn't open the door and all
the frozen stuff was still like 90% frozen when the power came
back.... and ev en if I did lose it all I don't keep a whole lot in my
freezer.... I'd rather lose $100 worth of meat than spend $10K on a
generator. Next month I will be having a ventless propane heater
installed in my basement, will keep the entire house toasty and
prevent pipes from freezing in winter... shoulda done it years ago,
they are cheap ($400 installed) and more than pay for themselves the
first winter as they are 98% efficient and need no electric and no
chimney. I can live quite well without TV and computer. I have lots
of candles and flash lights, and I just ordered a new portable weather
radio and another battery powered camp light. I have enough food in
my pantry to easily last me a year... and my gas stove works without
electric. I always keep several gallons of bottled water on hand and
since there was plenty of warning I filled several of my humongous
cook pots. And for bathing and toilet flushing a couple hundred feet
from my door I have this:
http://i55.tinypic.com/jpu7b5.jpg

And it's no biggie to haul buckets of water, I do it all the time to
water plants where my hose won't reach:
http://i55.tinypic.com/b4iwqw.jpg

On 04/09/2011 11:56 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:

>> Hand pumps will only work to a depth of about 22 feet so they're only
>> good on shallow wells.
>
> That's true, and shallow well water is as poor quality as run off...
> it's good for irrigating crops and may be okay for cleaning/bathing
> but rarely is ground water potable without boiling.

I have a well and a cistern and would not drink straight from either
one. I have a distiller and it has a reservoir that has several gallons.
There is a pressure pump to supply the kitchen but there is also a
spigot on the reservoir itself. I do not have a hand pump but can drop
a bucket into the well or the cistern.

> I've often
> thought about getting a generator but I really don't need one, they
> can be more trouble than they are worth; another thing that requires
> maintenence and fuel storage... a decent size portable can easily use
> 10-15 gallons a day. And since I heat with propane I've considered a
> propane stand-by system but this being the first outage that lasted
> more than a few hours I can't see spending the $10,000+ for something
> I really don't need.

You can get a smaller gasoline powered generator for a few hundred and
it will provide enough power to run sump pumps, water pressure,
refrigerator and some lights. My neighbours have an expensive propane
powered system but it is automatic and they are away a lot. They only
live here a few weeks a year so the house is vacant most of the time,
and especially during the times of the year when we are most likely to
experience outages.

> I was without electric for almost four days and
> lost nothing from my fridge/freezer, just didn't open the door and all
> the frozen stuff was still like 90% frozen when the power came
> back.... and ev en if I did lose it all I don't keep a whole lot in my
> freezer.... I'd rather lose $100 worth of meat than spend $10K on a
> generator.


I have to wonder when I hear about people chucking the contents of their
fridge and freezer after outages. As long as you leave the doors closed
they retain the cold for a long time. If the stuff is still hard there
should be no problem. It might be different if you were away for a while
and weren't sure if the stuff had completely thawed and then refroze.

On Sep 4, 8:56*am, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:

You might consider a smaller generator, just big enough to run your
refrigerator and a couple of outlets so you
could recharge your phone or use the computer. Even though this was
the first long outage for you, you never know what is going on in the
future with all the changes in weather and climate that we are having.

On 04/09/2011 12:54 PM, blake murphy wrote:

>>>
>>
>> I knew a German lady that said she knew Hitler. She said "He was really
>> a nice guy. A lot of people don't know that." She was nutty as hell.
>
> "Hitler was better-looking than Churchill, he was a better dresser than
> Churchill, he had more hair, he told funnier jokes, and he could dance the
> pants off of Churchill!"
>


My best friend was German. When my son was about 5 we went out to the
west coast to visit my friend and his family. My son has seen an Indiana
Jones movie and was fascinated by Nazis and talked abut them all the
time and was doing so on the way to visit my friends parents, who were
like second parents to me. I told my son not to talk about Nazis when
were we visiting because my friends has lived through the Nazi experience.

He almost managed to make it through the afternoon without talking about
Nazis... almost. He suddenly blurted out that he wished he could have
met Hitler. My friend's mother said "I met Hitler". My son's jaw
dropped and he asked her what he was like. She said "He was a stupid man
and he ruined my country."

On Sun, 4 Sep 2011 11:15:03 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 09:11:10 -0600, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
>> Interesting either way. . .never thought about it, just pumped until
>> ice cold water splashed out into the speckled tin cup hanging beside
>> the pump handle.
>
>I wouldn't drink well water. Our neighborhood's well water had a high
>sulpher content - we called it egg water. The local amusement park
>also used well water. The water rides were not very pleasant
>smelling. The whole park smelled of rotten eggs.
>
>-sw
This was way north Wisconsin in the 50's and the cottage only had well
water. It tasted lovely and was so sparkly clear.
Janet US

On Sat, 3 Sep 2011 16:21:57 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

> On Sat, 3 Sep 2011 11:58:41 -0400, blake murphy wrote:
>
>> i think this 'he's not really an asshole, he just likes to get a rise out
>> of people' talk is just foolish. who *but* an asshole would think that
>> that was fun?
>
> Very good point and similar to what I was saying: People who can act
> like very good assholes really ARE assholes. I admit I can be
> asshole, but not nearly as big and consistently as Catz. And his love
> for animals is just to make up for his lack of the higher standard of
> human social skills.
>
> -sw

exactly. his animals love him because he feeds them, and he loves them
because they love him and never contradict or even question him.

your pal,
blake

On Sunday, September 4, 2011 11:26:21 AM UTC-6, blake murphy wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Sep 2011 16:21:57 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 3 Sep 2011 11:58:41 -0400, blake murphy wrote:
> >
> >> i think this 'he's not really an asshole, he just likes to get a rise out
> >> of people' talk is just foolish. who *but* an asshole would think that
> >> that was fun?
> >
> > Very good point and similar to what I was saying: People who can act
> > like very good assholes really ARE assholes. I admit I can be
> > asshole, but not nearly as big and consistently as Catz. And his love
> > for animals is just to make up for his lack of the higher standard of
> > human social skills.
> >
> > -sw
>
> exactly. his animals love him because he feeds them, and he loves them
> because they love him and never contradict or even question him.
>
> your pal,
> blake

And less problematic than wives...and they never nag unless they are hungry.

> On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 07:17:49 -1000, dsi1 wrote:

>> I knew a German lady that said she knew Hitler. She said "He was really
>> a nice guy. A lot of people don't know that." She was nutty as hell.

I worked with a German woman. She thought thing were OK with Hitler. He
made sure the people had coal or wood to heat and an apartment to live in.
Her father had a job.

On 04/09/2011 1:22 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:

> This was way north Wisconsin in the 50's and the cottage only had well
> water. It tasted lovely and was so sparkly clear.


I had to chuckle one time when we had a guest from "the city" telling me
how good my well water was. He was fed up with the water at home because
it was chlorinated. Fact was that our well water had been tested and
condemned. We had to put a water purification system in. It consisted of
a filter, a chlorinater and a holding tank. There was probably more
chlorine in my well water than there was in his city water.


I have just come back from the hardware store and installad a filter in
my cistern. It is just a temporary measure, a filter connected to a hose
and 1/3 hp submerged pump to circulate and filter the cistern water. It
has been sitting there for a long time and it's pretty murky.

On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 11:22:46 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

>On Sun, 4 Sep 2011 11:15:03 -0500, Sqwertz >
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 09:11:10 -0600, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>
>>> Interesting either way. . .never thought about it, just pumped until
>>> ice cold water splashed out into the speckled tin cup hanging beside
>>> the pump handle.
>>
>>I wouldn't drink well water. Our neighborhood's well water had a high
>>sulpher content - we called it egg water. The local amusement park
>>also used well water. The water rides were not very pleasant
>>smelling. The whole park smelled of rotten eggs.
>>
>>-sw
>This was way north Wisconsin in the 50's and the cottage only had well
>water. It tasted lovely and was so sparkly clear.
>Janet US

My dad had a buisness associate in the early 60's who had a summer
place in Canada. The tap water was pumped out of the lake. Even as a
young kid I liked it and could tell the difference.

Lou

On Sun, 4 Sep 2011 11:15:03 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 09:11:10 -0600, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
>> Interesting either way. . .never thought about it, just pumped until
>> ice cold water splashed out into the speckled tin cup hanging beside
>> the pump handle.
>
>I wouldn't drink well water. Our neighborhood's well water had a high
>sulpher content - we called it egg water. The local amusement park
>also used well water. The water rides were not very pleasant
>smelling. The whole park smelled of rotten eggs.

There is all sorts of well water. I've drank sulphur flavored,
natural gas flavored, calcium flavored, and. . the best, purest
tasting stuff in the world. The drilled well at that house was only
60 feet deep & had more water than we could measure. 3-4 houses
away they went 300[?] feet and got sulphur water.

I'm on 'city' water now. Once I filter it it isn't bad-- But I'll
take a nice cold spring in the woods, anytime.

Jim

On 9/4/2011 8:12 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>
>> On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 07:17:49 -1000, dsi1 wrote:
>
>>> I knew a German lady that said she knew Hitler. She said "He was really
>>> a nice guy. A lot of people don't know that." She was nutty as hell.
>
> I worked with a German woman. She thought thing were OK with Hitler. He
> made sure the people had coal or wood to heat and an apartment to live
> in. Her father had a job.

Hitler does have his fans, no doubt. He should have stuck with building
high-speed motorways and manufacturing plants and getting a VW in every
German family's garage and inspiring a nation to accomplish great things
rather than hassling his country's neighbors and killing people and
coming up with fantastically futuristic ways of killing people.

We could use a guy like Hitler in this country - except for the killing
people part of course. If he wanted to invade Canada, that might be
OK... :-)

On 04/09/2011 2:59 PM, dsi1 wrote:
n. Her father had a job.
>
> Hitler does have his fans, no doubt. He should have stuck with building
> high-speed motorways and manufacturing plants and getting a VW in every
> German family's garage and inspiring a nation to accomplish great things
> rather than hassling his country's neighbors and killing people and
> coming up with fantastically futuristic ways of killing people.
>

My sister in law was born in Austria and was a little girl during the
war. While she was too young to be involved in anything, she said Hitler
was their hero. He put people to work and got the economy going. Then
things went for a crap.


> We could use a guy like Hitler in this country - except for the killing
> people part of course. If he wanted to invade Canada, that might be
> OK... :-)
>

You guys have already tried several times and were not successful.
We get a little tired of Merkins complaining that Canada does not
contribute enough to defense. We went to war against Germany twice
without American help, and the only country that has tried to invade us
is the US..... several times.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
>
>
>> On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 07:17:49 -1000, dsi1 wrote:
>
>>> I knew a German lady that said she knew Hitler. She said "He was really
>>> a nice guy. A lot of people don't know that." She was nutty as hell.
>
> I worked with a German woman. She thought thing were OK with Hitler. He
> made sure the people had coal or wood to heat and an apartment to live in.
> Her father had a job.

I had a German friend and she told me that they didn't know Hitler was bad.
It seems he made sure there was medical provision and education for all.


--
http://www.shop.helpforheros.org.uk

ImStillMags wrote:
>Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>You might consider a smaller generator, just big enough to run your
>refrigerator and a couple of outlets so you
>could recharge your phone or use the computer. Even though this was
>the first long outage for you, you never know what is going on in the
>future with all the changes in weather and climate that we are having.

My land line wasn't out, for some reason the land line on this road
still works when the electric is out. I don't have a cell phone but
you can charge those with your automobile. I was curious about a
generator for my fridge so I called the GE Helpline... they recommend
4,000-4,500 watts for all models due to the start load. Even a small
portable generator just enough to run the fridge only costs over $500,
a good quality one more like $800. Some of my neighbors had those
things running all day, they're extremely noisy so they would out of
courtesy shut them off at night... but still they burned about ten
gallons of gas in about 16 hours... they really only needed those
generators because they have full chest freezers, I consider chest
freezers asinine. I really don't want to store like 50 gallons of gas
for a prolonged emergency and have to constantly change it lest it go
bad, so a portable generator is an option I won't entertain, I'd
rather lose a $100 worth of meat, especially with the price of gas
today... and it makes no sense to have a generator without enough fuel
on hand to run it for at least 4-5 days. I looked at portable diesel
generators too, but those cost more and also burn about 10-15 gallons
a day. I considered a propane stand-by system and still haven't
totally dismissed it but I'd need a 20 kilo watt unit, about $5,000
plus installation, that can cost about as much as the unit. Before I
spring for $10,000 someone will have to convince me that I can't live
without a PC and TV for a few hours/days... heck, it costs nearly
$100/year just to maintain the thing even if never used.
http://tinyurl.com/3o57kg8
http://www.amazon.com/Generac-5875-A...6F2/ref=pd_ts_
zgc_ol_16381071_1_i?ie=UTF8&s=garden&pf_rd_p=12936 05502&pf_rd_s=right-5&pf_rd_t=1401&p
f_rd_i=1000422531&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0Y WQXCYERR4Q8DDA8Y8X

Like I said I can cook on my gas stove and I have plenty of food in my
pantry, and I just bought 12 more gallons of bottled water at 88¢ per
at Walmart... and I got to use my new percolator, great coffee! I was
able to have a pretty good birdbath by bringing a five gallon bucket
of creek water into my bathtub, even washed my hair... hey, was better
than the ice cold salt water showers I had in the navy. The
stupidmarket in town was open, on generator, I could have bought
whatever cuts of meat and cooked them on my gas grill. I'd be more
concerned about not having electric were it winter, but I already
decided last winter to have a ventless heater installed in my basement
to keep pipes from freezing. I actually have a wood stove in my
basement but I'd rather not risk it, this is safer and hassle free:
http://tinyurl.com/423b5j7
http://www.amazon.com/Mr-Heater-Prop...F30KBLUELP/dp/
B000UPR5TY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1315167922&sr=8-1

I consider not having electric for a few days a very minor
inconvenience. As soon as the power came back I ordered these:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001QTXKC4
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0018S4XIS

On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 10:23:06 -0400, Jim Elbrecht >
wrote:

>On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 10:15:15 -0400, Ross@home wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 3 Sep 2011 16:26:24 -0500, Sqwertz >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 07:34:57 -0500, George Leppla wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/2/2011 10:52 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>> He has his own propane tank, well water, and septic tank. Last ting
>>>>> he needs is a generator (which he may have).
>>>>
>>>> A well doesn't do you any good if you don't have electricity to run the
>>>> pump.
>>>>
>>>> If I were Sheldon living in a rural area like that, I would have a
>>>> generator.
>>>
>>>The people who had wells in my old neighborhood always had a hand
>>>operated option as well.
>>>
>>>-sw
>>
>>Hand pumps will only work to a depth of about 22 feet so they're only
>>good on shallow wells.
>>
>
>Not true-
>http://www.survivalunlimited.com/handwaterpumpdeep.htm
>
>350' is the claimed limit on that page-- Even adjusting that to 250-
>that covers most folks.
>

That's a pretty specialized pump setup. Far simpler, and judging by
the prices on that site, far cheaper to purchase a standby generator
and the necessary transfer switching.
Just my opinion.

Ross.

On 9/4/2011 3:44 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> ImStillMags wrote:
>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>> You might consider a smaller generator, just big enough to run your
>> refrigerator and a couple of outlets so you
>> could recharge your phone or use the computer. Even though this was
>> the first long outage for you, you never know what is going on in the
>> future with all the changes in weather and climate that we are having.
>
> My land line wasn't out, for some reason the land line on this road
> still works when the electric is out. I don't have a cell phone but
> you can charge those with your automobile. I was curious about a
> generator for my fridge so I called the GE Helpline... they recommend
> 4,000-4,500 watts for all models due to the start load. Even a small
> portable generator just enough to run the fridge only costs over $500,
> a good quality one more like $800. Some of my neighbors had those
> things running all day, they're extremely noisy so they would out of
> courtesy shut them off at night... but still they burned about ten
> gallons of gas in about 16 hours... they really only needed those
> generators because they have full chest freezers, I consider chest
> freezers asinine. I really don't want to store like 50 gallons of gas
> for a prolonged emergency and have to constantly change it lest it go
> bad, so a portable generator is an option I won't entertain, I'd
> rather lose a $100 worth of meat, especially with the price of gas
> today... and it makes no sense to have a generator without enough fuel
> on hand to run it for at least 4-5 days. I looked at portable diesel
> generators too, but those cost more and also burn about 10-15 gallons
> a day. I considered a propane stand-by system and still haven't
> totally dismissed it but I'd need a 20 kilo watt unit, about $5,000
> plus installation, that can cost about as much as the unit. Before I
> spring for $10,000 someone will have to convince me that I can't live
> without a PC and TV for a few hours/days... heck, it costs nearly
> $100/year just to maintain the thing even if never used.

Sheldon... look at http://tinyurl.com/3bka84r

This unit is less than $2200, installation shouldn't cost more than $300
at most. it runs on either natural gas or LP so you don't have to worry
about fuel storage. Yearly maintenance is next to $0. Low fuel
consumption and only 62 decibels.

I'm not saying you should get one... but if I were living in a rural
area like you do, I would seriously consider it.

Of course, if i were in a rural area like you, I would also consider
wind and solar power.... but that is another subject.

George L

On Sun, 4 Sep 2011 14:12:45 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski" >
wrote:

>
>
>> On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 07:17:49 -1000, dsi1 wrote:
>
>>> I knew a German lady that said she knew Hitler. She said "He was really
>>> a nice guy. A lot of people don't know that." She was nutty as hell.
>
>I worked with a German woman. She thought thing were OK with Hitler. He
>made sure the people had coal or wood to heat and an apartment to live in.
>Her father had a job.

He tended the ovens...

On 04/09/2011 5:39 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:

>> I worked with a German woman. She thought thing were OK with Hitler. He
>> made sure the people had coal or wood to heat and an apartment to live in.
>> Her father had a job.
>
> He tended the ovens...

LOL


Reminds me of a tasteless but very funny joke that my son's French
brewer told him on Remembrance Day. He said that he always gets sad on
that day because his father died in a concentration camp. He fell out of
his guard tower.