On Sunday, September 4, 2011 12:15:05 PM UTC-6, Lou Decruss wrote:
> On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 11:22:46 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> <[email address]> wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 4 Sep 2011 11:15:03 -0500, Sqwertz >
> >wrote:
> >
> >>On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 09:11:10 -0600, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> >>
> >>> Interesting either way. . .never thought about it, just pumped until
> >>> ice cold water splashed out into the speckled tin cup hanging beside
> >>> the pump handle.
> >>
> >>I wouldn't drink well water. Our neighborhood's well water had a high
> >>sulpher content - we called it egg water. The local amusement park
> >>also used well water. The water rides were not very pleasant
> >>smelling. The whole park smelled of rotten eggs.
> >>
> >>-sw
> >This was way north Wisconsin in the 50's and the cottage only had well
> >water. It tasted lovely and was so sparkly clear.
> >Janet US
>
> My dad had a buisness associate in the early 60's who had a summer
> place in Canada. The tap water was pumped out of the lake. Even as a
> young kid I liked it and could tell the difference.
>
> Lou

Probably from all the septic tank effluent which was seeping into the lake. Nowadays cottage owners are often required to install holding tanks for their sewage and are regularly pumped out and the effluent trucked away.

On 04/09/2011 6:13 PM, Roy wrote:
>
>> My dad had a buisness associate in the early 60's who had a summer
>> place in Canada. The tap water was pumped out of the lake. Even as a
>> young kid I liked it and could tell the difference.
>>
>> Lou
>
> Probably from all the septic tank effluent which was seeping into the lake. Nowadays cottage owners are often required to install holding tanks for their sewage and are regularly pumped out and the effluent trucked away.

It may depend on where the cottage is. The installation of septic beds
is strictly regulated, but a lot of them may be grandfathered and it is
only when there are major renovations made that they have to be updated.
One of the most popular cottage areas in Ontario is Muskoka, which is
very rocky. By rocky I do not mean that there are a lot of rocks in the
ground. It is solid rock. Installing proper septic bed would be a major
undertaking.

Friends of ours have a cottage on the south end of Georgian Bay and
about 15 years ago there was a major sewer line installed along their
road and they had to hook up to it.

On 9/4/2011 9:08 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> You guys have already tried several times and were not successful.
> We get a little tired of Merkins complaining that Canada does not
> contribute enough to defense. We went to war against Germany twice
> without American help, and the only country that has tried to invade us
> is the US..... several times.

You're absolutely right. I'm not sure why Canada would want to get
involved in our fights cause they sure don't get much respect from us
for their trouble. I was just kidding about invading Canada but that'll
be the last time I joke about this.

On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 14:27:47 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

>In article >,
> Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>
>> I always keep several gallons of bottled water on hand and
>> since there was plenty of warning I filled several of my humongous
>> cook pots. And for bathing and toilet flushing a couple hundred feet
>> from my door I have this:
>> http://i55.tinypic.com/jpu7b5.jpg
>>
>> And it's no biggie to haul buckets of water, I do it all the time to
>> water plants where my hose won't reach:
>> http://i55.tinypic.com/b4iwqw.jpg
>
>I see you use kitty litter buckets! <lol> Those things are handy...

I get more than I can use, I'm always giving them away.

On Sunday, September 4, 2011 1:14:36 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 04/09/2011 1:22 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
> > This was way north Wisconsin in the 50's and the cottage only had well
> > water. It tasted lovely and was so sparkly clear.
>
>
> I had to chuckle one time when we had a guest from "the city" telling me
> how good my well water was. He was fed up with the water at home because
> it was chlorinated. Fact was that our well water had been tested and
> condemned. We had to put a water purification system in. It consisted of
> a filter, a chlorinater and a holding tank. There was probably more
> chlorine in my well water than there was in his city water.
>
>
> I have just come back from the hardware store and installad a filter in
> my cistern. It is just a temporary measure, a filter connected to a hose
> and 1/3 hp submerged pump to circulate and filter the cistern water. It
> has been sitting there for a long time and it's pretty murky.

A cistern and a well are not the same thing. In the Ozarks, the well water is lovely, but the water for drinking really should be filtered. The city water in St. Louis tastes fine. The stream we kayaked on Friday is one that I'd feel OK drinking unfiltered after a 5 minute boil. http://www.nps.gov/ozar/index.htm

--Bryan

On 9/4/2011 12:15 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 09:11:10 -0600, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
>> Interesting either way. . .never thought about it, just pumped until
>> ice cold water splashed out into the speckled tin cup hanging beside
>> the pump handle.
>
> I wouldn't drink well water. Our neighborhood's well water had a high
> sulpher content - we called it egg water. The local amusement park
> also used well water. The water rides were not very pleasant
> smelling. The whole park smelled of rotten eggs.

When I first got married we lived in a mobile home with well water. If I
can help it, I won't live in a place with it again. The weather and
other conditions like the pumps being shut down for maintenance would
cause the water to be undrinkable and really unusable for days. I don't
recall sulpher, but I do recall rust.

On 9/5/2011 9:41 AM, blake murphy wrote:
>
> Leo Bloom: Let's assume, just for the moment, that you are a dishonest man.
> Max Bialystock: Assume away.
>
> your pal,
> blake

I heard about this movie when I was about 14 from a orthopedic surgeon
as he was applying a cast to my leg. He told his co-worker that he saw a
great movie that had a outrageous song in it called "Springtime for
Hitler" and then he started singing the first lines. I never saw the
movie until years later in the 70's but I sure remembered the doc
singing SFH. These days, the docs are probably talking about "Superbad"
when they put on casts. :-)

On 9/5/2011 5:16 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 9/5/2011 9:41 AM, blake murphy wrote:
>>
>> Leo Bloom: Let's assume, just for the moment, that you are a dishonest
>> man.
>> Max Bialystock: Assume away.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
> I heard about this movie when I was about 14 from a orthopedic surgeon
> as he was applying a cast to my leg. He told his co-worker that he saw a
> great movie that had a outrageous song in it called "Springtime for
> Hitler" and then he started singing the first lines. I never saw the
> movie until years later in the 70's but I sure remembered the doc
> singing SFH. These days, the docs are probably talking about "Superbad"
> when they put on casts. :-)

I used to set my alarm to get up in the middle of the night when it was
on. It's still one of my all-time favorites.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

On 9/5/2011 12:46 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>
> I used to set my alarm to get up in the middle of the night when it was
> on. It's still one of my all-time favorites.
>

As well you should. I love that Kenneth Mars and enjoy watching him
whenever he's on something. Don't even get me started on Lee Meredith! I
have no idea of anything she's ever been in... :-)

On 05/09/2011 6:46 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:

>> I heard about this movie when I was about 14 from a orthopedic surgeon
>> as he was applying a cast to my leg. He told his co-worker that he saw a
>> great movie that had a outrageous song in it called "Springtime for
>> Hitler" and then he started singing the first lines. I never saw the
>> movie until years later in the 70's but I sure remembered the doc
>> singing SFH. These days, the docs are probably talking about "Superbad"
>> when they put on casts. :-)
>
> I used to set my alarm to get up in the middle of the night when it was
> on. It's still one of my all-time favorites.
>

I was disappointed with the recent remake of the movie. There was a good
take off of it on Curb Your Enthusiasm.

Dave Smith wrote:
> On 05/09/2011 6:46 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>
>>> I heard about this movie when I was about 14 from a orthopedic surgeon
>>> as he was applying a cast to my leg. He told his co-worker that he saw a
>>> great movie that had a outrageous song in it called "Springtime for
>>> Hitler" and then he started singing the first lines. I never saw the
>>> movie until years later in the 70's but I sure remembered the doc
>>> singing SFH. These days, the docs are probably talking about "Superbad"
>>> when they put on casts. :-)
>>
>>
>> I used to set my alarm to get up in the middle of the night when it was
>> on. It's still one of my all-time favorites.
>>
>
> I was disappointed with the recent remake of the movie. There was a good
> take off of it on Curb Your Enthusiasm.
>

Ever seen the 1980's remake of the 1940's Lubitch film "To be or not to
be" with Mel Brooks and Anne Bancroft?

I recently got a copy of the 1960's "It's a mad, mad, mad, mad world."

I can remember seeing it several times as a kid, going back to the movie
house on several consecutive weekends just cause it was so funny,
Absolutely hilarious.

But when i watched it as an adult, it was just sad, from the start with
Jimmy
Durante literally kicking the bucket and the poor immigrant family run off
the road (comically) to the last prat fall that puts Ethel Merman in the
hospital
with a broken leg.

The cast list is ...

Main


* Spencer Tracy as Captain T. G. Culpepper, Santa Rosita Police
Department
* Milton Berle as edible seaweed company owner J. Russell Finch
* Sid Caesar as dentist Melville Crump
* Edie Adams as Crump's wife, Monica
* Ethel Merman as Mrs. Marcus, mother-in-law of J. Russell Finch,
mother of Emmeline and Sylvester
* Jonathan Winters as trucker Lennie Pike
* Mickey Rooney as comedy writer Dingy Bell
* Buddy Hackett as comedy writer Benjy Benjamin
* Phil Silvers as out-of-work piano player Otto Meyer
* Dorothy Provine as Emmeline Marcus-Finch, wife of J. Russell Finch
* Dick Shawn as Sylvester Marcus, a lifeguard, Mrs. Marcus' son,
Emmeline's brother
* Terry-Thomas as Lt. Col. J. Algernon Hawthorne

Secondary

* Jim Backus as boozy and rich airplane owner Tyler Fitzgerald
* William Demarest as Aloysius, Chief of the Santa Rosita Police
Department
* Jimmy Durante as "Smiler" Grogan
* Peter Falk as a cop-hating cab driver
* Eddie 'Rochester' Anderson as a cab driver
* Paul Ford as Col. Wilberforce
* Barrie Chase as Sylvester Marcus' bikini-wearing girlfriend

Cameo appearances

* Jack Benny as a man who drives by in a Maxwell, offering to help,
but is put off by Mrs. Marcus
* Paul Birch as a Santa Rosita Police Department officer
* Ben Blue as the vintage biplane pilot
* Joe E. Brown as the union official giving a speech at a
construction site
* Wally Brown as a Santa Rosita Police Department officer (died
before filming)
* Alan Carney as a sergeant with the Santa Rosita Police Department
* Chick Chandler as detective outside Chinese laundry
* John Clarke as helicopter pilot
* Stanley Clements as a local reporter at police station
* Lloyd Corrigan as the mayor of Santa Rosita
* Howard Da Silva as an airport official
* Andy Devine as the Sheriff of Crockett County, California (fictional)
* Selma Diamond (voice only) as Ginger Culpepper, Captain
Culpepper's wife
* Minta Durfee as a crowd extra
* Roy Engel as a Santa Rosita Police Department officer
* Norman Fell as primary detective at the "Smiler" Grogan accident site
* James Flavin as a Santa Rosita Police Department officer
* Stan Freberg as a Crockett County Deputy Sheriff
* Nicholas Georgiade as supporting detective at the "Smiler" Grogan
accident site
* Louise Glenn (voice only) as Billie Sue Culpepper, Captain
Culpepper's daughter
* Leo Gorcey as a cab driver bringing Crump and Monica to the
hardware store
* Stacy Harris (voice only) as police radio voice unit F-7
* Don C. Harvey as a Santa Rosita Police Department officer
* Sterling Holloway as a Santa Rosita Fire Department fire captain
* Edward Everett Horton as Mr. Dinckler, owner of the hardware store
* Allen Jenkins as a Santa Rosita Police Department officer
* Marvin Kaplan as garage/service station co-owner Irwin
* Robert Karnes as Simmy, a Santa Rosita Police Department officer
* Buster Keaton as Jimmy the Crook (boatman)
* Tom Kennedy as a Santa Rosita Police Department traffic cop
* Don Knotts as the nervous motorist
* Charles Lane as the airport manager
* Harry Lauter as a police dispatcher
* Ben Lessy as George the steward
* Bobo Lewis as vintage biplane pilot's wife
* Jerry Lewis as the man who runs over Culpepper's hat
* Bob Mazurki as Eddie, the miner's son
* Mike Mazurki as the miner bringing medicine to his wife
* Charles McGraw as Lt. Matthews
* Cliff Norton as a reporter
* Barbara Pepper as a crowd extra
* ZaSu Pitts as Gertie, the Santa Rosita Police Department Central
Division's switchboard operator
* Carl Reiner as the Rancho Conejo airport tower controller
* Madlyn Rhue as police secretary Schwartz
* Roy Roberts as a Santa Rosita Police Department officer
* Eddie Ryder as Rancho Conejo air traffic control tower staff member
* Charles Sherlock as a crowd extra
* The Shirelles (voices), singing "31 Flavors", at Sylvester's
bachelor pad
* Eddie Smith as an extra
* Arnold Stang as garage/service station co-owner Ray
* Nick Stewart as migrant truck driver forced off the road
* The Three Stooges (Moe, Larry, and Curly Joe) as Rancho Conejo
Airport firemen (they have the shortest cameo appearance; five seconds)
* Sammee Tong as a laundryman
* Doodles Weaver as a hardware store employee
* Jesse White as a Rancho Conejo air traffic controller
--
JL

On 2011-09-06, M. JL Esq. > wrote:

> But when i watched it as an adult, it was just sad, from the start
> with Jimmy Durante literally kicking the bucket and the poor
> immigrant family run off the road (comically) to the last prat fall
> that puts Ethel Merman in the hospital with a broken leg.

Boy JL, you need to get down to a Tea Party doctor, quick. You're
suffering from a near terminal case of liberal white man's guilt.

That movie is timeless, and still freakin' hilarious. It's a showcase
for all the comedians of the era and a style of comedy as old as
vaudville. Right or wrong, it's a historic time capsule in movie
form. Brilliant, by any metric.

nb

On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 17:10:48 -0400, Ross@home wrote:

>On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 10:23:06 -0400, Jim Elbrecht >
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 10:15:15 -0400, Ross@home wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 3 Sep 2011 16:26:24 -0500, Sqwertz >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 07:34:57 -0500, George Leppla wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/2/2011 10:52 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>> He has his own propane tank, well water, and septic tank. Last ting
>>>>>> he needs is a generator (which he may have).
>>>>>
>>>>> A well doesn't do you any good if you don't have electricity to run the
>>>>> pump.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I were Sheldon living in a rural area like that, I would have a
>>>>> generator.
>>>>
>>>>The people who had wells in my old neighborhood always had a hand
>>>>operated option as well.
>>>>
>>>>-sw
>>>
>>>Hand pumps will only work to a depth of about 22 feet so they're only
>>>good on shallow wells.
>>>
>>
>>Not true-
>>http://www.survivalunlimited.com/handwaterpumpdeep.htm
>>
>>350' is the claimed limit on that page-- Even adjusting that to 250-
>>that covers most folks.
>>
>
>That's a pretty specialized pump setup. Far simpler, and judging by
>the prices on that site, far cheaper to purchase a standby generator
>and the necessary transfer switching.
>Just my opinion.

You can do it without a transfer switch if you know what you're doing.
I've got a family member who lives in an area with very unreliable
power. I set it up to backfeed the house and put directions on the
panels and the backfeed plug. He's used it for years with no
problems. It ran the well, fridge, and a few lights just fine. The
total cost was about 550 bucks.

Lou

On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 21:54:52 -0400, Dave Smith wrote:

> On 05/09/2011 6:46 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>
>>> I heard about this movie when I was about 14 from a orthopedic surgeon
>>> as he was applying a cast to my leg. He told his co-worker that he saw a
>>> great movie that had a outrageous song in it called "Springtime for
>>> Hitler" and then he started singing the first lines. I never saw the
>>> movie until years later in the 70's but I sure remembered the doc
>>> singing SFH. These days, the docs are probably talking about "Superbad"
>>> when they put on casts. :-)
>>
>> I used to set my alarm to get up in the middle of the night when it was
>> on. It's still one of my all-time favorites.
>>
>
> I was disappointed with the recent remake of the movie. There was a good
> take off of it on Curb Your Enthusiasm.

in my experience, there's never been a remake of anything that was worth a
damn.

your pal,
blake

On 9/6/2011 7:08 AM, blake murphy wrote:
> in my experience, there's never been a remake of anything that was worth a
> damn.
>
> your pal,
> blake

One of my favorite Hong Kong movies was remade into a Hollywood film and
it was highly successful commercially and critically. What's the name of
the film? I thought it was an awful rip-off myself...

notbob wrote:
> On 2011-09-06, M. JL Esq. > wrote:
>
>
>>But when i watched it as an adult, it was just sad, from the start
>>with Jimmy Durante literally kicking the bucket and the poor
>>immigrant family run off the road (comically) to the last prat fall
>>that puts Ethel Merman in the hospital with a broken leg.
>
>
> Boy JL, you need to get down to a Tea Party doctor, quick. You're
> suffering from a near terminal case of liberal white man's guilt.
>

I just don't find people suffering to be funny. No more than i am
entertained by drama and tragedy.

> That movie is timeless, and still freakin' hilarious. It's a showcase
> for all the comedians of the era and a style of comedy as old as
> vaudville. Right or wrong, it's a historic time capsule in movie
> form. Brilliant, by any metric.

I agree its a very well made movie, even, of its type, a "classic" i
just don't find it as funny as i did as a child.
--
JL
>
> nb
>
>

On 2011-09-06, M. JL Esq. > wrote:
>
> I just don't find people suffering to be funny. No more than i am
> entertained by drama and tragedy.

The poor folk in the truck were unharmed. Slipping on a banana peel
is tragic!? Yer not entertaind by drama and trajedy in movies? What?
you live in a hole and read Winnie the Pooh? No wait!... I think
there's some drama in WtP. You don't even read? Yer either a liar or
brain dead.

nb

On 06/09/2011 1:08 PM, blake murphy wrote:

>>> I used to set my alarm to get up in the middle of the night when it was
>>> on. It's still one of my all-
>> I was disappointed with the recent remake of the movie. There was a good
>> take off of it on Curb Your Enthusiasm.
>
> in my experience, there's never been a remake of anything that was worth a
> damn.


Why would we expect much from a re-make? The people who are producing
them don't have enough talent to come up with a novel idea, though they
seem to be able to convince some people that their product will be
better than the original, but tend not to be. The only reason that I can
think of for a remake is that the special effects could be better.

On Sep 4, 9:15*am, Sqwertz > wrote:
> On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 09:11:10 -0600, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> > Interesting either way. . .never thought about it, just pumped until
> > ice cold water splashed out into the speckled tin cup hanging beside
> > the pump handle.
>
> I wouldn't drink well water. *Our neighborhood's well water had a high
> sulpher content - we called it egg water. *The local amusement park
> also used well water. *The water rides were not very pleasant
> smelling. *The whole park smelled of rotten eggs.
>
> -sw

Sounds like the Santa Cruz mountains, we called it tap water. It was
really noticable in the shower, what with all the spray and all.
Stinky.

There was a fresh spring a few miles down the road that people used
for cooking and drinking water, we'd fill up a couple of water bottles
full every week.

On Sep 4, 11:12*am, "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote:
> > On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 07:17:49 -1000, dsi1 wrote:
> >> I knew a German lady that said she knew Hitler. She said "He was really
> >> a nice guy. A lot of people don't know that." She was nutty as hell.
>
> I worked with a German woman. *She thought thing were OK with Hitler. *He
> made sure the people had coal or wood to heat and an apartment to live in..
> Her father had a job.

You'd hear this sort of thing relatively often. I lived in Germany for
a few years, the usual things he'd be credited for were the Autobahn
and fit children. Typically this would be blurted out, then the
speaker would look a bit ashamed. And it was always, always a female
speaking. Never heard a man making any excuses for Germany or Hitler.

Ya, ich rede es.

On Sep 6, 10:08*am, blake murphy > wrote:

>
> in my experience, there's never been a remake of anything that was worth a
> damn.
>

The trick is to remake something that was mediocre or worse. There's
been one or two good remakes from those, can't remember the titles at
the mo tho.

notbob wrote:
> On 2011-09-06, M. JL Esq. > wrote:
>
>>I just don't find people suffering to be funny. No more than i am
>>entertained by drama and tragedy.
>
>
> The poor folk in the truck were unharmed. Slipping on a banana peel
> is tragic!? Yer not entertaind by drama and trajedy in movies? What?
> you live in a hole and read Winnie the Pooh? No wait!... I think
> there's some drama in WtP. You don't even read? Yer either a liar or
> brain dead.
>
> nb
>

I said i am not amused or entertained by it, that i don't watch drama
for entertainment.

Some of the historical dramas of Shakespeare i have found interesting.
Especially some of the more recent examples. Kenneth Brannaughs
examples iirc?

But other than one particular movie, i usually don't find the story of a
movie as interesting as sets, costumes, special effects & etc.

I saw "All about Eve" the other day, Bette Davis & etc. a bit too arch
for my taste but i had no idea Marylin Monroe was in it!

Best part of the movie imo, and rather like Jean Harlow in Dinner at 8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zQe-lVm7L4
--
JL

On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 14:55:26 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 06/09/2011 1:08 PM, blake murphy wrote:
>
>>>> I used to set my alarm to get up in the middle of the night when it was
>>>> on. It's still one of my all-
>>> I was disappointed with the recent remake of the movie. There was a good
>>> take off of it on Curb Your Enthusiasm.
>>
>> in my experience, there's never been a remake of anything that was worth a
>> damn.
>
>
>Why would we expect much from a re-make? The people who are producing
>them don't have enough talent to come up with a novel idea, though they
>seem to be able to convince some people that their product will be
>better than the original, but tend not to be. The only reason that I can
>think of for a remake is that the special effects could be better.

Many of the very old classics were lousy quality; fuzzy B & W, poor
audio (some with no audio), and made for small screen... some of the
remakes are far superior, some are awful... but for those who want the
originals are still there. I like the original cartoons, the new
cartoons are terrible.

blake murphy > wrote:

> in my experience, there's never been a remake of anything that was worth a
> damn.
>
> your pal,
> blake

Hitchcock seemed to prove this rule -- his 1956 remake of his own 1934 'The
Man Who Knew Too Much' sucked, mainly because of his decision to cast James
Stewart in the lead, this disneyfying the original dark story.

On 06/09/2011 4:19 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:

>>> in my experience, there's never been a remake of anything that was worth a
>>> damn.
>>
>>
>> Why would we expect much from a re-make? The people who are producing
>> them don't have enough talent to come up with a novel idea, though they
>> seem to be able to convince some people that their product will be
>> better than the original, but tend not to be. The only reason that I can
>> think of for a remake is that the special effects could be better.
>
> Many of the very old classics were lousy quality; fuzzy B& W, poor
> audio (some with no audio), and made for small screen...

Small screen????? WTF???? The old movies were made long before
television, and it was some time before they even started running movies
on television.


> some of the
> remakes are far superior, some are awful... but for those who want the
> originals are still there. I like the original cartoons, the new
> cartoons are terrible.

I can't think of any movies where the remake was better than the
original. Then there are the television program ideas stolen from other
networks or from other countries. The British show Man About the House
was much better than Three's Company, and the British series The Office
was infinitely better than the American version. Many have tried to
capitalize on the fame of a show by coming up with spin-offs. It is rare
for the spin-offs to be anywhere near as good as the original. Maude
had it's fans (not me), but I think that the only one that became more
popular than the original was the Cheers spin-off Frasier.

On 9/6/2011 10:25 AM, Hackmatack wrote:
> blake > wrote:
>
>> in my experience, there's never been a remake of anything that was worth a
>> damn.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
> Hitchcock seemed to prove this rule -- his 1956 remake of his own 1934 'The
> Man Who Knew Too Much' sucked, mainly because of his decision to cast James
> Stewart in the lead, this disneyfying the original dark story.

Actually, I think it was Doris Day singing "Que Sera, Sera" that did it.
:-)

dsi1 > wrote:
> On 9/6/2011 10:25 AM, Hackmatack wrote:
>> blake > wrote:
>>
>>> in my experience, there's never been a remake of anything that was worth a
>>> damn.
>>>
>>> your pal,
>>> blake
>>
>> Hitchcock seemed to prove this rule -- his 1956 remake of his own 1934 'The
>> Man Who Knew Too Much' sucked, mainly because of his decision to cast James
>> Stewart in the lead, this disneyfying the original dark story.
>
> Actually, I think it was Doris Day singing "Que Sera, Sera" that did it. :-)

Yeah, that was a reverse high point. And those irridescently brown suits
everyone wore in 50's movies.

On 9/6/2011 11:41 AM, Hackmatack wrote:
> > wrote:
>> On 9/6/2011 10:25 AM, Hackmatack wrote:
>>> blake > wrote:
>>>
>>>> in my experience, there's never been a remake of anything that was worth a
>>>> damn.
>>>>
>>>> your pal,
>>>> blake
>>>
>>> Hitchcock seemed to prove this rule -- his 1956 remake of his own 1934 'The
>>> Man Who Knew Too Much' sucked, mainly because of his decision to cast James
>>> Stewart in the lead, this disneyfying the original dark story.
>>
>> Actually, I think it was Doris Day singing "Que Sera, Sera" that did it. :-)
>
> Yeah, that was a reverse high point. And those irridescently brown suits
> everyone wore in 50's movies.

That would pretty much be the second most shocking scene in a Hitchcock
movie. :-)

On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 16:33:43 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 06/09/2011 4:19 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>>>> in my experience, there's never been a remake of anything that was worth a
>>>> damn.
>>>
>>>
>>> Why would we expect much from a re-make? The people who are producing
>>> them don't have enough talent to come up with a novel idea, though they
>>> seem to be able to convince some people that their product will be
>>> better than the original, but tend not to be. The only reason that I can
>>> think of for a remake is that the special effects could be better.
>>
>> Many of the very old classics were lousy quality; fuzzy B& W, poor
>> audio (some with no audio), and made for small screen...
>
>Small screen????? WTF???? The old movies were made long before
>television, and it was some time before they even started running movies
>on television.

Not talking television... the old movies were narrow sceeen, no
cinemascope... many were not much better than flip movies at the penny
arcade. Even the old television shows were antiquated technology... a
big difference from 32 mm to modern digitalized... do you still listen
to 78 rpm?