very simply the coon is smaller and has more fragile bones, its just sorta
half steepping to me, either they are a big enough nusance to eliminate
them, or they aren't, anything short of elimination only moves the problem
or allows for damaging an animal and letting it suffer, kinder to me to
eliminate it completely than the possiblity of suffering, Lee
"J. Clarke" > wrote in message
in.local...
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> too much risk of injury or posion and slow death, either they bother you
>> enough to take them out or they don't, Lee
>
> Not sure why you think that a paintball full of pepper would be
> "poison", or why you think there's significant risk of injury--you feel
> it when a paintball hits you but unless it catches you in the eye the
> risk of actual injury is pretty small.
>
>> "J. Clarke" > wrote in message
>> .local...
>> > In article >,
>> > says...
>> >>
>> >> if you hit them it does harm them it lodges in the fat layer and can
>> >> fester... I have a cat full of them and she has joint pain and
>> >> difficulty
>> >> walking, either kill it outright or leave it alone, Lee
>> >
>> > You can get felt cleaning pellets that won't usually break the skin but
>> > sting like Hell.
>> >
>> > <http://www.amazon.com/Beeman-Quick-Cleaning-Pellets-
>> > 100ct/dp/B0018LA28U>
>> >
>> > Or try a paintball gun. If regular paintballs don't discourage them
>> > you
>> > can get capsaicin-filled ones.
>> >
>> >
>> >> "George Shirley" > wrote in message
>> >> .com...
>> >> > On 9/4/2011 11:43 AM, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>> >> >> I've posted this in another forum, but figure two forums are better
>> >> >> than one, so here's to the gardeners/critter control specialists:
>> >> >> This
>> >> >> is the first year I've planted tomatoes in the side yard of our new
>> >> >> house. Never had any problem with critters getting at my tomatoes
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> Colorado or even back in Indiana, but I've narrowed the field of
>> >> >> suspects down to raccoons. They don't seem to be affected by bone
>> >> >> meal
>> >> >> or Repel's All. I have yet to picked a nice fat better boy that
>> >> >> didn't
>> >> >> have teeth marks in it - and I won't eat a tomato that's been
>> >> >> shared
>> >> >> with a raccoon!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Any ideas other than trapping them or shooting them, the latter of
>> >> >> which is illegal in my town, and the former just makes them someone
>> >> >> else's problem.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >>
>> >> >> To reply, remove "spambot" and replace it with "cox"
>> >> > Since they and skunks are known carriers of rabies, call animal
>> >> > control
>> >> > in
>> >> > your town and see if they will live trap and relocate them. If not I
>> >> > don't
>> >> > see anything in your future except an ultra quiet air gun.
>> >> >
>> >> > Our city is a posted Wildlife Protected city. They won't even trap
>> >> > critters for you but will loan you a HavaHeart trap and then you
>> >> > have
>> >> > to
>> >> > get a state permit to "relocate" the critters. Quite honestly my Rat
>> >> > Terrier pretty much keeps the squirrel and field rat population down
>> >> > but I
>> >> > won't let her chase raccoons because of the rabies thing (even
>> >> > though
>> >> > she
>> >> > is vaccinated). The coons I run off with a BB gun, scares the heck
>> >> > out
>> >> > of
>> >> > them but doesn't harm them.
>> >
>> >
>
>

In article >,
says...
>
> very simply the coon is smaller and has more fragile bones, its just sorta
> half steepping to me, either they are a big enough nusance to eliminate
> them, or they aren't, anything short of elimination only moves the problem
> or allows for damaging an animal and letting it suffer, kinder to me to
> eliminate it completely than the possiblity of suffering, Lee

So chasing it off isn't an option to you?

> "J. Clarke" > wrote in message
> in.local...
> > In article >,
> > says...
> >>
> >> too much risk of injury or posion and slow death, either they bother you
> >> enough to take them out or they don't, Lee
> >
> > Not sure why you think that a paintball full of pepper would be
> > "poison", or why you think there's significant risk of injury--you feel
> > it when a paintball hits you but unless it catches you in the eye the
> > risk of actual injury is pretty small.
> >
> >> "J. Clarke" > wrote in message
> >> .local...
> >> > In article >,
> >> > says...
> >> >>
> >> >> if you hit them it does harm them it lodges in the fat layer and can
> >> >> fester... I have a cat full of them and she has joint pain and
> >> >> difficulty
> >> >> walking, either kill it outright or leave it alone, Lee
> >> >
> >> > You can get felt cleaning pellets that won't usually break the skin but
> >> > sting like Hell.
> >> >
> >> > <http://www.amazon.com/Beeman-Quick-Cleaning-Pellets-
> >> > 100ct/dp/B0018LA28U>
> >> >
> >> > Or try a paintball gun. If regular paintballs don't discourage them
> >> > you
> >> > can get capsaicin-filled ones.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> "George Shirley" > wrote in message
> >> >> .com...
> >> >> > On 9/4/2011 11:43 AM, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
> >> >> >> I've posted this in another forum, but figure two forums are better
> >> >> >> than one, so here's to the gardeners/critter control specialists:
> >> >> >> This
> >> >> >> is the first year I've planted tomatoes in the side yard of our new
> >> >> >> house. Never had any problem with critters getting at my tomatoes
> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> Colorado or even back in Indiana, but I've narrowed the field of
> >> >> >> suspects down to raccoons. They don't seem to be affected by bone
> >> >> >> meal
> >> >> >> or Repel's All. I have yet to picked a nice fat better boy that
> >> >> >> didn't
> >> >> >> have teeth marks in it - and I won't eat a tomato that's been
> >> >> >> shared
> >> >> >> with a raccoon!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Any ideas other than trapping them or shooting them, the latter of
> >> >> >> which is illegal in my town, and the former just makes them someone
> >> >> >> else's problem.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> To reply, remove "spambot" and replace it with "cox"
> >> >> > Since they and skunks are known carriers of rabies, call animal
> >> >> > control
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > your town and see if they will live trap and relocate them. If not I
> >> >> > don't
> >> >> > see anything in your future except an ultra quiet air gun.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Our city is a posted Wildlife Protected city. They won't even trap
> >> >> > critters for you but will loan you a HavaHeart trap and then you
> >> >> > have
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > get a state permit to "relocate" the critters. Quite honestly my Rat
> >> >> > Terrier pretty much keeps the squirrel and field rat population down
> >> >> > but I
> >> >> > won't let her chase raccoons because of the rabies thing (even
> >> >> > though
> >> >> > she
> >> >> > is vaccinated). The coons I run off with a BB gun, scares the heck
> >> >> > out
> >> >> > of
> >> >> > them but doesn't harm them.
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >

not when it comes to coons, they have homing beacons and if they have nested
they will return, also i think chasing a destructive critter off to another
location just gives the problem to someone else who may not be as kind
natured... coons, and skunks, are so distructive when in a human habitat
that unless you are willing to trap it and drive it to a forest over twenty
miles from human habitation its better to destroy it than allow it to
potentially be tortured... Lee
"J. Clarke" > wrote in message
in.local...
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> very simply the coon is smaller and has more fragile bones, its just
>> sorta
>> half steepping to me, either they are a big enough nusance to eliminate
>> them, or they aren't, anything short of elimination only moves the
>> problem
>> or allows for damaging an animal and letting it suffer, kinder to me to
>> eliminate it completely than the possiblity of suffering, Lee
>
> So chasing it off isn't an option to you?
>
>> "J. Clarke" > wrote in message
>> in.local...
>> > In article >,
>> > says...
>> >>
>> >> too much risk of injury or posion and slow death, either they bother
>> >> you
>> >> enough to take them out or they don't, Lee
>> >
>> > Not sure why you think that a paintball full of pepper would be
>> > "poison", or why you think there's significant risk of injury--you feel
>> > it when a paintball hits you but unless it catches you in the eye the
>> > risk of actual injury is pretty small.
>> >
>> >> "J. Clarke" > wrote in message
>> >> .local...
>> >> > In article >,
>> >> >
>> >> > says...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> if you hit them it does harm them it lodges in the fat layer and
>> >> >> can
>> >> >> fester... I have a cat full of them and she has joint pain and
>> >> >> difficulty
>> >> >> walking, either kill it outright or leave it alone, Lee
>> >> >
>> >> > You can get felt cleaning pellets that won't usually break the skin
>> >> > but
>> >> > sting like Hell.
>> >> >
>> >> > <http://www.amazon.com/Beeman-Quick-Cleaning-Pellets-
>> >> > 100ct/dp/B0018LA28U>
>> >> >
>> >> > Or try a paintball gun. If regular paintballs don't discourage them
>> >> > you
>> >> > can get capsaicin-filled ones.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> "George Shirley" > wrote in message
>> >> >> .com...
>> >> >> > On 9/4/2011 11:43 AM, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>> >> >> >> I've posted this in another forum, but figure two forums are
>> >> >> >> better
>> >> >> >> than one, so here's to the gardeners/critter control
>> >> >> >> specialists:
>> >> >> >> This
>> >> >> >> is the first year I've planted tomatoes in the side yard of our
>> >> >> >> new
>> >> >> >> house. Never had any problem with critters getting at my
>> >> >> >> tomatoes
>> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> Colorado or even back in Indiana, but I've narrowed the field of
>> >> >> >> suspects down to raccoons. They don't seem to be affected by
>> >> >> >> bone
>> >> >> >> meal
>> >> >> >> or Repel's All. I have yet to picked a nice fat better boy that
>> >> >> >> didn't
>> >> >> >> have teeth marks in it - and I won't eat a tomato that's been
>> >> >> >> shared
>> >> >> >> with a raccoon!
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Any ideas other than trapping them or shooting them, the latter
>> >> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> which is illegal in my town, and the former just makes them
>> >> >> >> someone
>> >> >> >> else's problem.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> To reply, remove "spambot" and replace it with "cox"
>> >> >> > Since they and skunks are known carriers of rabies, call animal
>> >> >> > control
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> > your town and see if they will live trap and relocate them. If
>> >> >> > not I
>> >> >> > don't
>> >> >> > see anything in your future except an ultra quiet air gun.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Our city is a posted Wildlife Protected city. They won't even
>> >> >> > trap
>> >> >> > critters for you but will loan you a HavaHeart trap and then you
>> >> >> > have
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > get a state permit to "relocate" the critters. Quite honestly my
>> >> >> > Rat
>> >> >> > Terrier pretty much keeps the squirrel and field rat population
>> >> >> > down
>> >> >> > but I
>> >> >> > won't let her chase raccoons because of the rabies thing (even
>> >> >> > though
>> >> >> > she
>> >> >> > is vaccinated). The coons I run off with a BB gun, scares the
>> >> >> > heck
>> >> >> > out
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > them but doesn't harm them.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>
>

On Tue, 6 Sep 2011 09:00:33 -0400, "J. Clarke" >
wrote:

>In article >,
>says...
>>
>> very simply the coon is smaller and has more fragile bones, its just sorta
>> half steepping to me, either they are a big enough nusance to eliminate
>> them, or they aren't, anything short of elimination only moves the problem
>> or allows for damaging an animal and letting it suffer, kinder to me to
>> eliminate it completely than the possiblity of suffering, Lee
>
>So chasing it off isn't an option to you?


The only reason that racoon comes around is because the OP is filthy
dirty disgusting thoughtless slob who leaves edible trash about.
Foraging critters don't come around when there is nothing to eat.

On Sep 4, 11:43*am, Terry Pulliam Burd > wrote:
> I've posted this in another forum, but figure two forums are better
> than one, so here's to the gardeners/critter control specialists: This
> is the first year I've planted tomatoes in the side yard of our new
> house. Never had any problem with critters getting at my tomatoes in
> Colorado or even back in Indiana, but I've narrowed the field of
> suspects down to raccoons. They don't seem to be affected by bone meal
> or Repel's All. I have yet to picked a nice fat better boy that didn't
> have teeth marks in it - and I won't eat a tomato that's been shared
> with a raccoon!
>
> Any ideas other than trapping them or shooting them, the latter of
> which is illegal in my town, and the former just makes them someone
> else's problem.
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
>
> --
>
> To reply, remove "spambot" and replace it with "cox"

You could do what my brother did to keep them out of the corn - play a
radio all night long -- put it right in among the tomatoes. It worked
for the corn....(the coons would gnaw off one stalk, let it fall on
the electric fence, and short it out, and then the whole family would
be in the corn).

N.

On 9/6/2011 1:42 AM, J. Clarke wrote:

> Not sure why you think that a paintball full of pepper would be
> "poison", or why you think there's significant risk of injury--you feel
> it when a paintball hits you but unless it catches you in the eye the
> risk of actual injury is pretty small.

They are much smaller than us.

On 2011-09-07, Cheryl > wrote:
> On 9/6/2011 1:42 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
>
>> Not sure why you think that a paintball full of pepper would be
>> "poison", or why you think there's significant risk of injury--you feel
>> it when a paintball hits you but unless it catches you in the eye the
>> risk of actual injury is pretty small.
>
> They are much smaller than us.

I haven't messed with paintballs, recently, but I know they've changed
redically over the years. They used to be big and mushy balls, pushed
by a pretty wimpy air charge. The latest generation are a whole new
ballgame. The are small, tuff, and have a thick skin that must be
shot at a painfull velocity to splatter. When you get hit by today's
paintballs, it raises are fairly prominent welt that turns black and
blue and remains fer a couple days. You'll notice early players used
to wear only goggles, but now they wear near full body armor to avoid
the painfully bruising hits.

These new hard hitting balls may not harm an adult racoon or a large
badger, but they could possibly do real internal damage to an opossum
or feral cat. I finally settled on an old fashioned sling shot. A
big rock the size of a small walnut moving at relatively slow
velocities will no doubt get the animal's attention without doing much
harm. Plus, I'm a lousy shot with the thing so it has a great chance
of jes ambling off on its own while I lob 3-4 stones in its direction.

The last time this occured, it was big ol' raccoon that was on our
deck. It quickly scurried off the deck then slowed down to an amble
as it got 10-15 ft away. As I clumsily loaded my slingshot and got
off a couple missed shots, it even stopped and looked back over its
shoulder as if to say, "idiot! ...if you hit me with that thing, I'll
come back there and kick yer ass!" Now I keep my shotgun next to the
slingshot.

nb

On 9/7/2011 10:26 AM, notbob wrote:

> I haven't messed with paintballs, recently, but I know they've changed
> redically over the years. They used to be big and mushy balls, pushed
> by a pretty wimpy air charge. The latest generation are a whole new
> ballgame. The are small, tuff, and have a thick skin that must be
> shot at a painfull velocity to splatter. When you get hit by today's
> paintballs, it raises are fairly prominent welt that turns black and
> blue and remains fer a couple days. You'll notice early players used
> to wear only goggles, but now they wear near full body armor to avoid
> the painfully bruising hits.

I only fought in a paintball war one time, and that was probably 10
years ago, and even then they hurt. I was shot in the rear-end and had
a welt for weeks. A friend was hit in the forehead just over her goggles
and it brought tears to her eyes and she also had a welt for at least a
week. It is a fun sport, but you have to be ready for the pain.

thanks for validating my point, if that ball hits a raccoon in the leg, then
it might break or weaken the animal to the point of suffering without need,
Lee
"Cheryl" > wrote in message
.com...
> On 9/7/2011 10:26 AM, notbob wrote:
>
>> I haven't messed with paintballs, recently, but I know they've changed
>> redically over the years. They used to be big and mushy balls, pushed
>> by a pretty wimpy air charge. The latest generation are a whole new
>> ballgame. The are small, tuff, and have a thick skin that must be
>> shot at a painfull velocity to splatter. When you get hit by today's
>> paintballs, it raises are fairly prominent welt that turns black and
>> blue and remains fer a couple days. You'll notice early players used
>> to wear only goggles, but now they wear near full body armor to avoid
>> the painfully bruising hits.
>
> I only fought in a paintball war one time, and that was probably 10 years
> ago, and even then they hurt. I was shot in the rear-end and had a welt
> for weeks. A friend was hit in the forehead just over her goggles and it
> brought tears to her eyes and she also had a welt for at least a week. It
> is a fun sport, but you have to be ready for the pain.

On Sun, 4 Sep 2011 12:40:32 -0500, Sqwertz >
arranged random neurons and said:

>On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 09:43:26 -0700, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>
>> I've posted this in another forum, but figure two forums are better
>> than one, so here's to the gardeners/critter control specialists: This
>> is the first year I've planted tomatoes in the side yard of our new
>> house. Never had any problem with critters getting at my tomatoes in
>> Colorado or even back in Indiana, but I've narrowed the field of
>> suspects down to raccoons. They don't seem to be affected by bone meal
>> or Repel's All. I have yet to picked a nice fat better boy that didn't
>> have teeth marks in it - and I won't eat a tomato that's been shared
>> with a raccoon!
>>
>> Any ideas other than trapping them or shooting them, the latter of
>> which is illegal in my town, and the former just makes them someone
>> else's problem.
>
>Coyote ****.

I did exactly that. Haven't seen a racoon, rabbit or neighborhood cat
since. Thanks and thanks!

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

--

To reply, remove "spambot" and replace it with "cox"

On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:46:20 -0700, Terry Pulliam Burd
> wrote:

> >Coyote ****.
>
> I did exactly that. Haven't seen a racoon, rabbit or neighborhood cat
> since. Thanks and thanks!

Where did you buy that?

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 00:42:17 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:46:20 -0700, Terry Pulliam Burd
> wrote:
>
>> >Coyote ****.
>>
>> I did exactly that. Haven't seen a racoon, rabbit or neighborhood cat
>> since. Thanks and thanks!
>
>Where did you buy that?

You don't have to buy it-- you just go to a Coyote Bar & hang out by
the men's room.

If there isn't a Coyote Bar in your neighborhood- Amazon carries it,
too.
http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=coyote+urine

Jim

On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 08:27:01 -0400, Jim Elbrecht >
wrote:

> On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 00:42:17 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:46:20 -0700, Terry Pulliam Burd
> > wrote:
> >
> >> >Coyote ****.
> >>
> >> I did exactly that. Haven't seen a racoon, rabbit or neighborhood cat
> >> since. Thanks and thanks!
> >
> >Where did you buy that?
>
> You don't have to buy it-- you just go to a Coyote Bar & hang out by
> the men's room.
>
> If there isn't a Coyote Bar in your neighborhood- Amazon carries it,
> too.
> http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=coyote+urine
>

Thanks, I was wondering if it was a local purchase and if it came from
the zoo or a nursery, but I passed the link on to my son and
son-in-law.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 10:44:09 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 08:27:01 -0400, Jim Elbrecht >
>wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 00:42:17 -0700, sf > wrote:
>>
>> >On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:46:20 -0700, Terry Pulliam Burd
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> >Coyote ****.
>> >>
>> >> I did exactly that. Haven't seen a racoon, rabbit or neighborhood cat
>> >> since. Thanks and thanks!
>> >
>> >Where did you buy that?
>>
>> You don't have to buy it-- you just go to a Coyote Bar & hang out by
>> the men's room.
>>
>> If there isn't a Coyote Bar in your neighborhood- Amazon carries it,
>> too.
>> http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=coyote+urine
>>
>
>Thanks, I was wondering if it was a local purchase and if it came from
>the zoo or a nursery, but I passed the link on to my son and
>son-in-law.

I don't know if where you live makes a difference- but the 'liquid
fence' that I've used had fox urine, not coyote. It also worked on
rabbits.

The down side is it needs to be re-applied frequently.

Jim

On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 00:42:17 -0700, sf > arranged
random neurons and said:

>On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:46:20 -0700, Terry Pulliam Burd
> wrote:
>
>> >Coyote ****.
>>
>> I did exactly that. Haven't seen a racoon, rabbit or neighborhood cat
>> since. Thanks and thanks!
>
>Where did you buy that?

http://www.predatorpee.com/Merchant2...tegory_Code=CU

http://tinyurl.com/3oujny7

I spread it fairly lightly around the tomato plants on Friday, which
are on the border of my property. My tomato plants are unmolested thus
far. Interestingly, I have also noticed that I haven't seen any
rabbits (which abound around here) OR crows (which were driving me
nuts). I never would have thought that stuff would chase off crows!

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

--

To reply, remove "spambot" and replace it with "cox"

On Sep 11, 2:42*am, sf > wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:46:20 -0700, Terry Pulliam Burd
>
> > wrote:
> > >Coyote ****.
>
> > I did exactly that. Haven't seen a racoon, rabbit or neighborhood cat
> > since. Thanks and thanks!
>
> Where did you buy that?
>
> --
> I love cooking with wine.
> Sometimes I even put it in the food.

You can easily find it at any sporting goods store that carries
hunting gear.

N.

On Sep 12, 12:04*am, Terry Pulliam Burd > wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 00:42:17 -0700, sf > arranged
> random neurons and said:
>
> >On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:46:20 -0700, Terry Pulliam Burd
> > wrote:
>
> >> >Coyote ****.
>
> >> I did exactly that. Haven't seen a racoon, rabbit or neighborhood cat
> >> since. Thanks and thanks!
>
> >Where did you buy that?
>
> http://www.predatorpee.com/Merchant2...=PROD&Store_Co....
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3oujny7
>
> I spread it fairly lightly around the tomato plants on Friday, which
> are on the border of my property. My tomato plants are unmolested thus
> far. Interestingly, I have also noticed that I haven't seen any
> rabbits (which abound around here) OR crows (which were driving me
> nuts). I never would have thought that stuff would chase off crows!
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
>
> --
>
> To reply, remove "spambot" and replace it with "cox"

Chasing the crows off surprises me, too, since birds really do not
have a very good sense of smell.

N.

On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 08:56:11 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:

> On Sep 11, 2:42*am, sf > wrote:
> > On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:46:20 -0700, Terry Pulliam Burd
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > >Coyote ****.
> >
> > > I did exactly that. Haven't seen a racoon, rabbit or neighborhood cat
> > > since. Thanks and thanks!
> >
> > Where did you buy that?
> >
>
> You can easily find it at any sporting goods store that carries
> hunting gear.
>

Really? There's a Big 5 near me, I don't know it they carry hunting
gear though. How is it used by campers/hunters?


--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 23:29:14 -0500, Sqwertz >
arranged random neurons and said:

>On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:46:20 -0700, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 4 Sep 2011 12:40:32 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> arranged random neurons and said:
>>
>>>> Any ideas other than trapping them or shooting them, the latter of
>>>> which is illegal in my town, and the former just makes them someone
>>>> else's problem.
>>>
>>>Coyote ****.
>>
>> I did exactly that. Haven't seen a racoon, rabbit or neighborhood cat
>> since. Thanks and thanks!
>
>Cool! It's good to have some first-hand feedback as I have considered
>that as well. Thanks for playing guinea pig for me :-)

Interestingly, as Bill pointed out, we also haven't seen any crows. We
see the little guys, like English sparrows and hummingbirds, but those
nasty crows the neighborhood's inundated with - we can hear 'em, but
don't see 'em.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

--

To reply, remove "spambot" and replace it with "cox"

On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 10:37:38 -0700, Terry Pulliam Burd
> wrote:

> Interestingly, as Bill pointed out, we also haven't seen any crows. We
> see the little guys, like English sparrows and hummingbirds, but those
> nasty crows the neighborhood's inundated with - we can hear 'em, but
> don't see 'em.

How does it work with gophers? My son had one that went over the top
of a raised bed (there was a gopher barricade below) to get to his
plants.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Steve wrote about sf:

>>>>> Coyote ****.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Where did you buy that?
>>
>> http://www.predatorpee.com/Merchant2...tegory_Code=CU
>
> Like she couldn't have looked it up. It her fault she killfiled me,
> then she has to ask other people what I posted (at least a dozen times
> now), even though she could have looked all those answers up for
> herself in less than 5 seconds.
>
> Why does everybody spoon-feed the bitch like that? <boggle> She's
> done this hundreds of times.

If she wanted a QUICK answer, she could look it up herself. It's obviously
more time-consuming to wait for someone else to answer the questions. I
don't see what the big deal is; sf is not NEARLY as lazy as Jill.

Bob

On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 23:11:52 -0700, "Bob Terwilliger"
> wrote:

> Steve wrote about sf:
>
> >>>>> Coyote ****.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Where did you buy that?
> >>
> >> http://www.predatorpee.com/Merchant2...tegory_Code=CU
> >
> > Like she couldn't have looked it up. It her fault she killfiled me,
> > then she has to ask other people what I posted (at least a dozen times
> > now), even though she could have looked all those answers up for
> > herself in less than 5 seconds.
> >
> > Why does everybody spoon-feed the bitch like that? <boggle> She's
> > done this hundreds of times.
>
> If she wanted a QUICK answer, she could look it up herself. It's obviously
> more time-consuming to wait for someone else to answer the questions.
>

He is certainly full of himself and obviously ****ed off that I have
him kill filed. He can't even see me on facebook. I wasn't poised to
rush out and buy coyote **** that very second (or ever), so it was
easy enough to wait for *the person I asked* to tell me if they
purchased it at their local hardware store, their local nursery or off
the internet (and you know that internet shopping is never the #1
choice for me).



--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

sf > wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 23:11:52 -0700, "Bob Terwilliger"
> > wrote:
>
>> Steve wrote about sf:
>>
>>>>>>> Coyote ****.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Where did you buy that?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.predatorpee.com/Merchant2...tegory_Code=CU
>>>
>>> Like she couldn't have looked it up. It her fault she killfiled me,
>>> then she has to ask other people what I posted (at least a dozen times
>>> now), even though she could have looked all those answers up for
>>> herself in less than 5 seconds.
>>>
>>> Why does everybody spoon-feed the bitch like that? <boggle> She's
>>> done this hundreds of times.
>>
>> If she wanted a QUICK answer, she could look it up herself. It's obviously
>> more time-consuming to wait for someone else to answer the questions.
>>
>
> He is certainly full of himself and obviously ****ed off that I have
> him kill filed. He can't even see me on facebook. I wasn't poised to
> rush out and buy coyote **** that very second (or ever), so it was
> easy enough to wait for *the person I asked* to tell me if they
> purchased it at their local hardware store, their local nursery or off
> the internet (and you know that internet shopping is never the #1
> choice for me).
>
>
>
> --
> All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

I'm in the market for some cayote **** myself in order to rid our current
abode of a pair of squirrels. They are small, red-ish, and criminally cute,
but a godawful nuisance, and poised to do quite a lot of damage. My
Havahart trap can't seem to tempt either one (and if it tempts one, the
other will wise up; squirrels are no dummies), so it's repellent next.
After that, it's the HardenMyHavart final solution: a cocktail of peanut
butter and warfarin...

I like your winey sig quote better....

On 9/22/2011 12:35 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> It's too bad the coyotes don't the option of being held captive in
> cages just for their pee, or they could simply just agree to hang out
> around your house, not kill any neighbors cats, and just pee on the
> foundation whenever they feel the urge. But otherwise live a free
> life. I'm sure they'd choose the later. I mean - can you imagine
> being held captive just because something wants your ****? It seesm
> pretty petty.
>
> Can't they synthetically make coyote pee nowadays? They can
> chemically recreate almost anything these days, no?

If you go that route, be careful. A google search to see if coyote pee
would deter deer came up with this:

---C&P---
If you decide to go the coyote-urine route despite its limits, please
know that dousing your yard will have one significant drawback. Coyote
pee attracts other coyotes; it's marketed as a way of enticing them into
traps. The same pheromones that hook on to the olfactory receptors in a
deer's nose and tell it to flee (an instinct that's overcome by hunger)
hit the coyote's nose and say: Here's a sexual partner or competitor.

Surprisingly large numbers of gardeners admit to persuading family
members and guests, particularly male, to pee around a garden's
perimeter rather than springing for the bottled coyote version. It's
cheap. It's fun. It's also useless. With its pathetically small amount
of pheromones, our urine doesn't frighten deer. The best that can be
said for it is that it doesn't lure coyotes.

---end C&P---

http://www.slate.com/id/2134559/

My mom has a lot of deer damage and can no longer grow ornamental plants
in her yard. Deer are also leaving a lot of shit. She found some
aromatic that kept them away for a while, but a hungry deer will get
used to most anything after a while, and they did.