Too bad it's already past 9-10-11 12:13

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On Sep 10, 1:26*pm, Andy > wrote:
> sf > wrote:
>
> > Too bad it's already past 9-10-11 12:13
>
> Cute.
>
> Andy

What's so damn "cute" about it?

On 10/09/2011 4:13 PM, sf wrote:
>
> Too bad it's already past 9-10-11 12:13
>

Happy?
I didn't think that was the sort of occasion to which the word happy
would apply.

On Sep 10, 3:28*pm, Chemo the Clown > wrote:
> On Sep 10, 1:26*pm, Andy > wrote:
>
> > sf > wrote:
>
> > > Too bad it's already past 9-10-11 12:13
>
> > Cute.
>
> > Andy
>
> What's so damn "cute" about it?

lol....can you imagine those two cyber-****ing on Skype? Ewwww....

On Sep 10, 1:47*pm, projectile vomit chick
> wrote:
> On Sep 10, 3:28*pm, Chemo the Clown > wrote:
>
> > On Sep 10, 1:26*pm, Andy > wrote:
>
> > > sf > wrote:
>
> > > > Too bad it's already past 9-10-11 12:13
>
> > > Cute.
>
> > > Andy
>
> > What's so damn "cute" about it?
>
> lol....can you imagine those two cyber-****ing on Skype? *Ewwww....

No but I can imagine you deep throating andy's little wee wee.

On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 16:39:25 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> On 10/09/2011 4:13 PM, sf wrote:
> >
> > Too bad it's already past 9-10-11 12:13
> >
>
> Happy?
> I didn't think that was the sort of occasion to which the word happy
> would apply.

You didn't? Tough luck. Have a nice day anyway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb7D-W-QW-8

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Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Sep 10, 4:13*pm, sf > wrote:
> Too bad it's already past 9-10-11 12:13


Betcher jus' gearin' up for next year's post on 10 -11 -12. Ugh.

On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 15:01:47 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia
> wrote:

> On Sep 10, 4:13*pm, sf > wrote:
> > Too bad it's already past 9-10-11 12:13
>
>
> Betcher jus' gearin' up for next year's post on 10 -11 -12. Ugh.

At least it's not yet another dead celebrity.

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On 9/10/2011 4:13 PM, sf wrote:
>
> Too bad it's already past 9-10-11 12:13
>

Neat!

On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:20:25 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

> On 9/10/2011 4:13 PM, sf wrote:
> >
> > Too bad it's already past 9-10-11 12:13
> >
>
> Neat!

Whew - somebody who *isn't* grouchy replied. LOL

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Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 13:13:12 -0700, sf wrote:


> Too bad it's already past 9-10-11 12:13

How exciting. In my neck of the woods (and a bunch of others) it would
have been 2011-09-10 12:13

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On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:33:03 +0200, ChattyCathy wrote:

> On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 13:13:12 -0700, sf wrote:
>
>> Too bad it's already past 9-10-11 12:13
>
> How exciting. In my neck of the woods (and a bunch of others) it would
> have been 2011-09-10 12:13

nice to see you, c.c.

your pal,
blake

On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 14:23:10 -0400, blake murphy wrote:

> On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:33:03 +0200, ChattyCathy wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 13:13:12 -0700, sf wrote:
>>
>>> Too bad it's already past 9-10-11 12:13
>>
>> How exciting. In my neck of the woods (and a bunch of others) it would
>> have been 2011-09-10 12:13
>
> nice to see you, c.c.
>
> your pal,
> blake

Backatcha blake.


Cheers
Chatty Cathy - still skimming through 15-odd thousand unread messages...

On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:33:03 +0200, ChattyCathy
> wrote:

> On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 13:13:12 -0700, sf wrote:
>
>
> > Too bad it's already past 9-10-11 12:13
>
> How exciting. In my neck of the woods (and a bunch of others) it would
> have been 2011-09-10 12:13

I'm proud to be an American, they can't take away the way we write the
date. LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf8hf...eature=related

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On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 12:48:25 -0700, sf wrote:

> On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:33:03 +0200, ChattyCathy
> > wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 13:13:12 -0700, sf wrote:
>>
>>
>> > Too bad it's already past 9-10-11 12:13
>>
>> How exciting. In my neck of the woods (and a bunch of others) it would
>> have been 2011-09-10 12:13
>
> I'm proud to be an American, they can't take away the way we write the
> date. LOL

<grin> Only reason I can think of why America (and maybe the Philippines
and the odd Eastern European country???) use the mm/dd/yy date format is
because of colloquial speech e.g. most Americans I've seen on TV (and met
in person) say "January 21st" instead of "21st of January".

However, speaking as someone who has had to "clean up" plenty of garbage
in many databases in the last 30 years which was solely caused by
confusion between "American" date format and other date formats, I'm quite
happy that the ISO yyyy-mm-dd format seems to be catching on.

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

On 9/12/2011 3:37 PM, ChattyCathy wrote:
>
(snip)
>
> However, speaking as someone who has had to "clean up" plenty of garbage
> in many databases in the last 30 years which was solely caused by
> confusion between "American" date format and other date formats, I'm quite
> happy that the ISO yyyy-mm-dd format seems to be catching on.

Agreed Seems many folks have now realized it's much easier to 'sort'
dates when the format for yyyy-mm-dd (yyyymmdd or even yyyymmdd-hhmm -
military time) is used. I'd hate to sort through data that use(s/d) the
mmddyyyy/etc. Very ackward! With the yyyymmdd format - it's already in
chronological order and so much easier (to analyze).

Sky

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On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 22:37:03 +0200, ChattyCathy
> wrote:

> <grin> Only reason I can think of why America (and maybe the Philippines
> and the odd Eastern European country???) use the mm/dd/yy date format is
> because of colloquial speech e.g. most Americans I've seen on TV (and met
> in person) say "January 21st" instead of "21st of January".

We flip flop when speaking - but mainly it's month first, day after.
I'm comfortable with month/day/year as a written format and will
continue to be confused by year/month/day format until 2013. So, if
you send me an invitation and don't spell the month out in writing - I
probably will not show up when you expected me. <G>

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On 12/09/2011 4:37 PM, ChattyCathy wrote:

>
> <grin> Only reason I can think of why America (and maybe the Philippines
> and the odd Eastern European country???) use the mm/dd/yy date format is
> because of colloquial speech e.g. most Americans I've seen on TV (and met
> in person) say "January 21st" instead of "21st of January".
>
> However, speaking as someone who has had to "clean up" plenty of garbage
> in many databases in the last 30 years which was solely caused by
> confusion between "American" date format and other date formats, I'm quite
> happy that the ISO yyyy-mm-dd format seems to be catching on.
>

Usians have a tendency to want standards, but to have their own.
Despite an international agreement to adopt the SIM metric system, the
US backed out and is the only industrialized country that uses the
Imperial system as its official system of measurement. The yyyy-mm-dd
format is part of SIM.

On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 14:56:41 -0700, Ranée at Arabian Knits
> wrote:

> Except that makes the least sense of all three. dd/mm/yyyy makes the
> most sense, though I still prefer my own nation's September 12th.

I could do dd/mm/yyyy - at least that makes sense. Putting the year
first doesn't. I wonder if they speak that way too.

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On 12/09/2011 5:56 PM, Ranée at Arabian Knits wrote:

>> However, speaking as someone who has had to "clean up" plenty of garbage
>> in many databases in the last 30 years which was solely caused by
>> confusion between "American" date format and other date formats, I'm quite
>> happy that the ISO yyyy-mm-dd format seems to be catching on.
>
> Except that makes the least sense of all three. dd/mm/yyyy makes the
> most sense, though I still prefer my own nation's September 12th.
>


IMO... YYYY-MM-DD makes the most sense. It goes largest to smallest.
Some people might say today's date is September 12 while others would
say that it is the 12th of September.

I used to deal with a lot of Americans on the job, and a lot of
American documents. I was okay if the date was the 13th or later because
anything over 12 could not be a month.

On 9/12/2011 5:08 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 12/09/2011 5:56 PM, Ranée at Arabian Knits wrote:
>
>>> However, speaking as someone who has had to "clean up" plenty of garbage
>>> in many databases in the last 30 years which was solely caused by
>>> confusion between "American" date format and other date formats, I'm
>>> quite
>>> happy that the ISO yyyy-mm-dd format seems to be catching on.
>>
>> Except that makes the least sense of all three. dd/mm/yyyy makes the
>> most sense, though I still prefer my own nation's September 12th.
>>
>
>
> IMO... YYYY-MM-DD makes the most sense. It goes largest to smallest.
> Some people might say today's date is September 12 while others would
> say that it is the 12th of September.
>
> I used to deal with a lot of Americans on the job, and a lot of American
> documents. I was okay if the date was the 13th or later because anything
> over 12 could not be a month.


Er, I thought that's what I tried to say that way - it's all
logically searched ;> YYYYMMDD - and it's chronological! instead by
months or day - instead by year.

Sky

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On 12/09/2011 7:22 PM, Ranée at Arabian Knits wrote:

>>>
>>> Except that makes the least sense of all three. dd/mm/yyyy makes the
>>> most sense, though I still prefer my own nation's September 12th.
>>
>> IMO... YYYY-MM-DD makes the most sense. It goes largest to smallest.
>> Some people might say today's date is September 12 while others would
>> say that it is the 12th of September.
>
> So, when someone asks you the date, you start with the year?
>
> What's the date today? A.D. 2011 September 12.
>


If I am asked and answer verbally, it could be September 12 or the 12th
of September. If written, it is 2011-09-12.

On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 18:08:49 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 12/09/2011 5:56 PM, Ranée at Arabian Knits wrote:
>
>>> However, speaking as someone who has had to "clean up" plenty of garbage
>>> in many databases in the last 30 years which was solely caused by
>>> confusion between "American" date format and other date formats, I'm quite
>>> happy that the ISO yyyy-mm-dd format seems to be catching on.
>>
>> Except that makes the least sense of all three. dd/mm/yyyy makes the
>> most sense, though I still prefer my own nation's September 12th.
>>
>
>
>IMO... YYYY-MM-DD makes the most sense. It goes largest to smallest.
>Some people might say today's date is September 12 while others would
>say that it is the 12th of September.

A lot of crap... every bank statement I receive is dated
month/day/year... every on line credit card transaction asks month,
day, year.... every newspaper in the US is dated month, day, year.
All yoose sicko *******s are full of shit.

In article
>,
Ranée at Arabian Knits > wrote:

> In article >,
> Dave Smith > wrote:
>
> > On 12/09/2011 5:56 PM, Ranée at Arabian Knits wrote:

> > > Except that makes the least sense of all three. dd/mm/yyyy makes the
> > > most sense, though I still prefer my own nation's September 12th.
> >
> > IMO... YYYY-MM-DD makes the most sense. It goes largest to smallest.
> > Some people might say today's date is September 12 while others would
> > say that it is the 12th of September.
>
> So, when someone asks you the date, you start with the year?
>
> What's the date today? A.D. 2011 September 12.

The rules are all different for verbal exchanges versus written. If I'm
writing it, somebody might look at it in two years, but if it's verbal
then everybody already knows that it's 2011. It's been 2011 for nine
months, and will continue for another three months. If we were talking
about next year or last year, we would most likely use the words "next"
and "last".

My father has severe senile dementia. He's always asking what the date
is. My sister hasn't learned yet. She'll say "Monday" or "the twelth".
He'll say, "NO, what MONTH is it!". He has no interest in the day of
the week or the day of the month. He wants to know the month, so he'll
know whether to expect it to get colder or warmer, and whether the days
will get shorter or longer!

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

On Sep 12, 7:56*pm, Dave Smith > wrote:
> On 12/09/2011 7:22 PM, Ran e at Arabian Knits wrote:
>
>
>
> >>> * * *Except that makes the least sense of all three. *dd/mm/yyyy makes the
> >>> most sense, though I still prefer my own nation's September 12th.
>
> >> IMO... YYYY-MM-DD makes the most sense. It goes largest to smallest.
> >> Some people might say today's date is September 12 while others would
> >> say that it is the 12th of September.
>
> > * * So, when someone asks you the date, you start with the year?
>
> > * * What's the date today? *A.D. 2011 September 12.
>
> If I am asked and answer verbally, it could be September 12 or the 12th
> of September. If written, it is 2011-09-12.

Says you. I don't think I have EVER seen any business or person write
out a date this way.

Kalmia replied to Dave Smith:

>> If I am asked and answer verbally, it could be September 12 or the 12th
>> of September. If written, it is 2011-09-12.
>
> Says you. I don't think I have EVER seen any business or person write
> out a date this way.

Other than in this forum, you mean? I myself have used the 2011-09-12 format
here.

Bob

In article
>,
Kalmia > wrote:

> On Sep 12, 7:56*pm, Dave Smith > wrote:
> > On 12/09/2011 7:22 PM, Ran e at Arabian Knits wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > >>> * * *Except that makes the least sense of all three. *dd/mm/yyyy makes
> > >>> the
> > >>> most sense, though I still prefer my own nation's September 12th.
> >
> > >> IMO... YYYY-MM-DD makes the most sense. It goes largest to smallest.
> > >> Some people might say today's date is September 12 while others would
> > >> say that it is the 12th of September.
> >
> > > * * So, when someone asks you the date, you start with the year?
> >
> > > * * What's the date today? *A.D. 2011 September 12.
> >
> > If I am asked and answer verbally, it could be September 12 or the 12th
> > of September. If written, it is 2011-09-12.
>
> Says you. I don't think I have EVER seen any business or person write
> out a date this way.

These furriners do things funny, don't they?

:-)

Seriously, I'll be very happy when we adopt a standard date format,
which will certainly not be what most in the US currently use.

As well as adopt the metric system for every day use.

It won't happen in my lifetime, though.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

On 9/12/2011 4:37 PM, ChattyCathy wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 12:48:25 -0700, sf wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:33:03 +0200, ChattyCathy
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 13:13:12 -0700, sf wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Too bad it's already past 9-10-11 12:13
>>>
>>> How exciting. In my neck of the woods (and a bunch of others) it would
>>> have been 2011-09-10 12:13
>>
>> I'm proud to be an American, they can't take away the way we write the
>> date. LOL
>
> <grin> Only reason I can think of why America (and maybe the Philippines
> and the odd Eastern European country???) use the mm/dd/yy date format is
> because of colloquial speech e.g. most Americans I've seen on TV (and met
> in person) say "January 21st" instead of "21st of January".
>
> However, speaking as someone who has had to "clean up" plenty of garbage
> in many databases in the last 30 years which was solely caused by
> confusion between "American" date format and other date formats, I'm quite
> happy that the ISO yyyy-mm-dd format seems to be catching on.
>
yyyy-mm-dd sorts better when you use it as a label for something. I am
more and more using that format, but informal writing always causes me
to revert to the US traditional.

On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 00:01:35 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

> When sorting computer data, putting the year first makes perfect sense.
> It's taken me time to get used to it tho' at work. It makes it easier
> to hunt down old lab results when docs need comparison info.'

I never need to find anything by date, so that reason is not valid for
me.

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Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On 12/09/2011 11:13 PM, Dan Abel wrote:

> Seriously, I'll be very happy when we adopt a standard date format,
> which will certainly not be what most in the US currently use.
>
> As well as adopt the metric system for every day use.
>
> It won't happen in my lifetime, though.



It would have been nice if the US had carried through with its
commitment to adopt SIM. Personally, I like the metric system. I
learned the Imperial system in school and grew up with it. I had a
metric seminar at work when we went metric more than 30 years aog. I
learned the most valuable lesson... don't convert. Just work in
metric.It sure makes a lot more sense in some things, like temperature.
People are better able to detect a temperature change in Celsius than
Fahrenheit, and there is a marked change at the freezing point, so it
makes sense to set that as zero.

On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 09:33:17 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> I learned the most valuable lesson... don't convert.

Agreed! I think the reason why Americans are so set against adopting
the metric system is because of all those horrible exercises in
converting from one system to the other that they had to do in
elementary school. We're scarred for life.


--
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Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On 9/13/2011 10:34 AM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 09:33:17 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> I learned the most valuable lesson... don't convert.
>
> Agreed! I think the reason why Americans are so set against adopting
> the metric system is because of all those horrible exercises in
> converting from one system to the other that they had to do in
> elementary school. We're scarred for life.
>
>
Quite likely, but I still remember as a British school child suffering
with conversions among farthings, guineas, rods, poles, perches and
furlongs, my immense feeling of enlightement, when at the age of 9, I
heard about the metric system.

--


James Silverton, Potomac

I'm *not*

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> Despite an international agreement to adopt the SIM metric system, the
> US backed out and is the only industrialized country that uses the
> Imperial system as its official system of measurement.

The US has been on the metric standard at least since the 1960s. The
difference is there is no force applied to switch from the old system.
It's voluntary unless you supply military hardware. I think all
government spending should be metric.

What I find strange is Canada mandated that all signs and evreything
else be switched years ago. When I watch Canadian TV episodes on HGTV
their home construction is all in inches. Strange.

> The yyyy-mm-dd format is part of SIM.

I've used the 2011-09-13 format when typing for a long time. But on
legal contracts I continue to use the 13 Sep 2011 format that I learned
in the military. Which is strange because all of the military hardware
had been metric since well before I enlisted.

One fun nit - Fahrenheit is the metric temperature system yet SI adopted
Centigrade. Strange. In Fahrenheit temperatures in the moderate belt
where most industry is based range from 0 to 100 without being news. If
it goes out of that range it makes it on the national news. Try it in
Centigrade and the temperatures that are worthy of the national news do
not change but th enumbers for them are not metric. It's a matter of
perspective of what matters in numbering.

On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 20:55:45 +0200, ChattyCathy wrote:

> On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 14:23:10 -0400, blake murphy wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:33:03 +0200, ChattyCathy wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 13:13:12 -0700, sf wrote:
>>>
>>>> Too bad it's already past 9-10-11 12:13
>>>
>>> How exciting. In my neck of the woods (and a bunch of others) it would
>>> have been 2011-09-10 12:13
>>
>> nice to see you, c.c.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
> Backatcha blake.
>
> Cheers
> Chatty Cathy - still skimming through 15-odd thousand unread messages...

dear god. that could lead to brain damage.

your pal,
blake

Ranée at Arabian Knits wrote:
> ChattyCathy > wrote:
>
>> I'm quite
>> happy that the ISO yyyy-mm-dd format seems to be catching on.
>
> Except that makes the least sense of all three.

If the order of the digits in 2011 make sense then the order of the
digits in 2011-09-13 make the same sense for the same reason. Bigger to
smaller for the entire system.

I could accept the argument that the order of digits in the numbering
system is wrong and it should be smaller to bigger for the entire
system. They year should be 1102 going from smaller to larger. It
does not sort but we already have the problem that 2011 already does
not sort alphabetically. The advantage is when there is a transistion
in the number of digits the system does not break. 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
01 11 21 21 31 41 51 61 71 81 91 20 and so on. Of course there's no
way anyone will ever convince schools to switch the order of digits in
numerals just to make the transistions smoother. But you'll note that
plenty of languages do it that why. Thirteen through ninetween in
English. Vente-et-un on Francsais.

dd/mm/yyyy only makes sense if the order of the digits in the year are
also reversed. It only works because people are accustomed to it.
Being accustomed to something does not equal something making sense.

Smaller to bigger works in plenty of contexts. Where do you live? 123.
I need more. 123 Main Street. I need more. 123 Main St, Everytown.
I need more. 123 Main St, Everytown, State 12345. Got it, thanks.
Wait, don't you also want what country, continent, planet, star system,
galaxy, cluster? No, I'm fine now that we got to the zip code. I don't
have enough stamps for the intergalactic mail delivery service.

On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:29:06 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger
> wrote:

> If the order of the digits in 2011 make sense then the order of the
> digits in 2011-09-13 make the same sense for the same reason. Bigger to
> smaller for the entire system.

Except we usually drop the first two digits and write the date
mm/dd/yy. If you kept all four, it wouldn't matter where it was - you
could put it in the middle and nobody would care.

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Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On 9/13/2011 8:33 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> It would have been nice if the US had carried through with its
> commitment to adopt SIM. Personally, I like the metric system. I
> learned the Imperial system in school and grew up with it. I had a
> metric seminar at work when we went metric more than 30 years aog. I
> learned the most valuable lesson... don't convert. Just work in
> metric.It sure makes a lot more sense in some things, like
> temperature. People are better able to detect a temperature change in
> Celsius than Fahrenheit, and there is a marked change at the freezing
> point, so it makes sense to set that as zero.
>

When I was in 3rd grade, they told is we were going to covert from
Imperial to metric, but we never did. We continued to do conversions
year after year, so they should have done it, already. What are they
waiting for? It would be easier if everyone spoke in the same
measurements. Medical professionals speak in centimeters and a doctor
in South American weighed me in stones.

Becca

On 13/09/2011 4:49 PM, Ema Nymton wrote:
> On 9/13/2011 8:33 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> It would have been nice if the US had carried through with its
>> commitment to adopt SIM. Personally, I like the metric system. I
>> learned the Imperial system in school and grew up with it. I had a
>> metric seminar at work when we went metric more than 30 years aog. I
>> learned the most valuable lesson... don't convert. Just work in
>> metric.It sure makes a lot more sense in some things, like
>> temperature. People are better able to detect a temperature change in
>> Celsius than Fahrenheit, and there is a marked change at the freezing
>> point, so it makes sense to set that as zero.
>>
>
> When I was in 3rd grade, they told is we were going to covert from
> Imperial to metric, but we never did. We continued to do conversions
> year after year, so they should have done it, already. What are they
> waiting for? It would be easier if everyone spoke in the same
> measurements. Medical professionals speak in centimeters and a doctor in
> South American weighed me in stones.
>

Some people are resistant to chance, and some countries allow political
lobbying to override the international agreements they had already
agreed too.

I don't know what the problem is. The metric system is a lot easier to
work with and while some people insist that they are too accustomed to
the Imperial system, they don't really know much about it. Never mind
that an American gallon is smaller than an Imperial gallon, many of them
have only a limited understanding of the Imperial system. They may know
how many inches in a foot and inches and feet in a yard, but they don't
know how many feet and yards there are in a mile, or square feet in a acre.

I am willing to bed that most people in this group don't know how many
yards there are in a chain, chains in a furlong or miles in a league.
They probably don't even know those are imperial measures.

I am not trying to make any kind of statement about their knowledge or
lack thereof. It's just that I don't buy the argument about them being
too used to the Imperial system when the fact is that they have only a
minimal understanding of the system.

On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:49:54 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> I don't know what the problem is. The metric system is a lot easier to
> work with and while some people insist that they are too accustomed to
> the Imperial system, they don't really know much about it. Never mind
> that an American gallon is smaller than an Imperial gallon,

The answer is right under your nose. If imperial gallons are larger,
then gas will cost more. It's very simple. People were looking for
bargains even back when gas was 28¢ a gallon.

> many of them
> have only a limited understanding of the Imperial system. They may know
> how many inches in a foot and inches and feet in a yard, but they don't
> know how many feet and yards there are in a mile, or square feet in a acre.

Why would they care? They should know how feet in a mile, but they
probably don't know yards - it's just arithmetic for figure that part
out.
>
> I am willing to bed that most people in this group don't know how many
> yards there are in a chain, chains in a furlong or miles in a league.
> They probably don't even know those are imperial measures.

I've never even heard of a chain measurement and have no reason to use
it. Nautical miles and leagues are not relevant to me, so it's
useless information. If I ever learned it, I promptly forgot. Carol
could probably answer and someone who bets on the horses could
probably tell you all about furlongs... but not me. We don't use old
fashioned terminology like "fortnight" either.
>
> I am not trying to make any kind of statement about their knowledge or
> lack thereof. It's just that I don't buy the argument about them being
> too used to the Imperial system when the fact is that they have only a
> minimal understanding of the system.

More interesting is that the imperial cooking measurements are larger
which is one reason why we have to use weight instead of measures when
translating recipes.



--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Sep 12, 8:35*pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 18:08:49 -0400, Dave Smith
>
>
>
> > wrote:
> >On 12/09/2011 5:56 PM, Ranée at Arabian Knits wrote:
>
> >>> However, speaking as someone who has had to "clean up" plenty of garbage
> >>> in many databases in the last 30 years which was solely caused by
> >>> confusion between "American" date format and other date formats, I'm quite
> >>> happy that the ISO yyyy-mm-dd format seems to be catching on.
>
> >> * * Except that makes the least sense of all three. *dd/mm/yyyy makes the
> >> most sense, though I still prefer my own nation's September 12th.
>
> >IMO... YYYY-MM-DD makes the most sense. It goes largest to smallest.
> >Some people might say today's date is September 12 while others would
> >say that it is the 12th of September.
>
> A lot of crap... every bank statement I receive is dated
> month/day/year... every on line credit card transaction asks month,
> day, year.... every newspaper in the US is dated month, day, year.
> All yoose sicko *******s are full of shit.

Yeah, but...My bank statement is also dated month, day, year. But the
nomenclature isn't only numeric, for example my last statement is
printed out thusly: JUL 29/11 - Aug 31/11. It isn't printed 7/29/11
- 8/31/11. I like the system where when printed using only number
data we get this for Aug. 28, 2011: 11/8/28. I'm used to it I guess.