It appears that World Kitchen (which makes Pyrex™) has hired "Food
Network celebrity" Sandra Lee for a nationwide consumer education
campaign. The campaign aims to teach consumers how to safely use their
products so that the glass will not suddenly explode.

http://pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=32

================================================== ====================
ISLAM: Winning the hearts and minds of the world, one bomb at a time.

On 2011-09-11, Ubiquitous > wrote:
> It appears that World Kitchen (which makes Pyrex™) has hired "Food
> Network celebrity" Sandra Lee for a nationwide consumer education
> campaign. The campaign aims to teach consumers how to safely use their
> products so that the glass will not suddenly explode.
>
> http://pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=32

Pretty sad when a mfr has to teach its customers how to use dangerous
products rather than make them safer. How come in cars we gotta
buckle up, buy kid seats, pay for incredibly expensive airbags, etc,
yet Pyrex gets away with selling a MORE dangerous product!? What's
next? Passenger seats in front of the grill and a youtube vid from
Jeff Gordon telling us to drive into a concrete abutment?

If the insurance companies had to shell out more money, you can bet
Pyrex would be making safer glass. I solved the whole problem by
tossing all my exploding soda-lime crap and buying steel pans or
stoneware.

nb

On 9/11/2011 10:41 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
> It appears that World Kitchen (which makes Pyrex™) has hired "Food
> Network celebrity" Sandra Lee for a nationwide consumer education
> campaign. The campaign aims to teach consumers how to safely use their
> products so that the glass will not suddenly explode.
>
> http://pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=32
>
> ================================================== ====================
> ISLAM: Winning the hearts and minds of the world, one bomb at a time.
>

One of the results of the "walmart culture" where all that matters is
cheap prices.

Too bad they just didn't call their ersatz pyrex "walglass" instead of
buying the pyrex brand. That way it would be less confusing.

On 2011-09-11, George > wrote:

> Too bad they just didn't call their ersatz pyrex "walglass" instead of
> buying the pyrex brand. That way it would be less confusing.

Cuz you buy it everywhere else, too.

nb

On Sep 11, 10:41*am, Ubiquitous > wrote:
> It appears that World Kitchen (which makes Pyrex™) has hired "Food
> Network celebrity" Sandra Lee for a nationwide consumer education
> campaign. The campaign aims to teach consumers how to safely use their
> products so that the glass will not suddenly explode.
>
> http://pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=32
>
> ================================================== ====================
> ISLAM: Winning the hearts and minds of the world, one bomb at a time.

That in itself ought to be a warning NOT to buy. I treasure my ages
old Pyrex and Anchor HOcking.

On Sep 11, 10:02*am, notbob > wrote:
> On 2011-09-11, Ubiquitous > wrote:
>
> > It appears that World Kitchen (which makes Pyrex ) has hired "Food
> > Network celebrity" Sandra Lee for a nationwide consumer education
> > campaign. The campaign aims to teach consumers how to safely use their
> > products so that the glass will not suddenly explode.
>
> >http://pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=32
>
> Pretty sad when a mfr has to teach its customers how to use dangerous
> products rather than make them safer.

Pyrex is not dangerous, you nitwit. All there is to Pyrex is don't
put it on a stove burner or change the temperature of it suddenly.

Some people are such pussies. Everyone has to make everything "safer"
for them, because they can't grasp the concept of common sense.

>*How come in cars we gotta
> buckle up, buy kid seats, pay for incredibly expensive airbags, etc,
> yet Pyrex gets away with selling a MORE dangerous product!? *What's
> next? *Passenger seats in front of the grill and a youtube vid from
> Jeff Gordon telling us to drive into a concrete abutment?
>
> If the insurance companies had to shell out more money, you can bet
> Pyrex would be making safer glass. *I solved the whole problem by
> tossing all my exploding soda-lime crap and buying steel pans or
> stoneware.

Yer a retard.

On Sep 11, 11:35*am, Kalmia > wrote:
> On Sep 11, 10:41*am, Ubiquitous > wrote:
>
> > It appears that World Kitchen (which makes Pyrex™) has hired "Food
> > Network celebrity" Sandra Lee for a nationwide consumer education
> > campaign. The campaign aims to teach consumers how to safely use their
> > products so that the glass will not suddenly explode.
>
> >http://pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=32
>
> > ================================================== ====================
> > ISLAM: Winning the hearts and minds of the world, one bomb at a time.
>
> That in itself ought to be a warning NOT to buy. *I treasure my ages
> old Pyrex and Anchor HOcking.

As do I. I have some great pieces from the sixties, wonderful stuff.

On 9/11/2011 5:29 PM, projectile vomit chick wrote:
> On Sep 11, 11:35 am, > wrote:
>> On Sep 11, 10:41 am, > wrote:
>>
>>> It appears that World Kitchen (which makes Pyrex™) has hired "Food
>>> Network celebrity" Sandra Lee for a nationwide consumer education
>>> campaign. The campaign aims to teach consumers how to safely use their
>>> products so that the glass will not suddenly explode.
>>
>>> http://pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=32
>>
>>> ================================================== ====================
>>> ISLAM: Winning the hearts and minds of the world, one bomb at a time.
>>
>> That in itself ought to be a warning NOT to buy. I treasure my ages
>> old Pyrex and Anchor HOcking.
>
> As do I. I have some great pieces from the sixties, wonderful stuff.

It's not about quality control, it's about the microwave generation.
Microwave ovens can induce thermal stress that can explode
old or new Pyrex™ cookware.

==

On 9/11/2011 5:55 PM, Ron Capik wrote:
> On 9/11/2011 5:29 PM, projectile vomit chick wrote:
>> On Sep 11, 11:35 am, > wrote:
>>> On Sep 11, 10:41 am, > wrote:
>>>
>>>> It appears that World Kitchen (which makes Pyrex™) has hired "Food
>>>> Network celebrity" Sandra Lee for a nationwide consumer education
>>>> campaign. The campaign aims to teach consumers how to safely use their
>>>> products so that the glass will not suddenly explode.
>>>
>>>> http://pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=32
>>>
>>>> ================================================== ====================
>>>> ISLAM: Winning the hearts and minds of the world, one bomb at a time.
>>>
>>> That in itself ought to be a warning NOT to buy. I treasure my ages
>>> old Pyrex and Anchor HOcking.
>>
>> As do I. I have some great pieces from the sixties, wonderful stuff.
>
> It's not about quality control, it's about the microwave generation.
> Microwave ovens can induce thermal stress that can explode
> old or new Pyrex™ cookware.

It's not microwave ovens, it's the use of white glass rather than
Pyroceram, which was great, if under appreciated !


--


James Silverton, Potomac

I'm *not*

On 9/11/2011 5:55 PM, Ron Capik wrote:
> On 9/11/2011 5:29 PM, projectile vomit chick wrote:
>> On Sep 11, 11:35 am, > wrote:
>>> On Sep 11, 10:41 am, > wrote:
>>>
>>>> It appears that World Kitchen (which makes Pyrex™) has hired "Food
>>>> Network celebrity" Sandra Lee for a nationwide consumer education
>>>> campaign. The campaign aims to teach consumers how to safely use their
>>>> products so that the glass will not suddenly explode.
>>>
>>>> http://pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=32
>>>
>>>> ================================================== ====================
>>>> ISLAM: Winning the hearts and minds of the world, one bomb at a time.
>>>
>>> That in itself ought to be a warning NOT to buy. I treasure my ages
>>> old Pyrex and Anchor HOcking.
>>
>> As do I. I have some great pieces from the sixties, wonderful stuff.
>
> It's not about quality control, it's about the microwave generation.
> Microwave ovens can induce thermal stress that can explode
> old or new Pyrex™ cookware.
>
> ==

Look for the clear Pyrex at garage sales and thrift stores. The
green-tinted stuff they sell as Pyrex now is a different formula and
production process, and not nearly as durable.

--
aem sends...

On Sep 11, 5:28*pm, projectile vomit chick
> wrote:
> On Sep 11, 10:02*am, notbob > wrote:
>
> > On 2011-09-11, Ubiquitous > wrote:
>
> > > It appears that World Kitchen (which makes Pyrex ) has hired "Food
> > > Network celebrity" Sandra Lee for a nationwide consumer education
> > > campaign. The campaign aims to teach consumers how to safely use their
> > > products so that the glass will not suddenly explode.
>
> > >http://pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=32
>
> > Pretty sad when a mfr has to teach its customers how to use dangerous
> > products rather than make them safer.
>
> Pyrex is not dangerous, you nitwit. *All there is to Pyrex is don't
> put it on a stove burner or change the temperature of it suddenly.
>
> Some people are such pussies. *Everyone has to make everything "safer"
> for them, because they can't grasp the concept of common sense.
>
> >*How come in cars we gotta
> > buckle up, buy kid seats, pay for incredibly expensive airbags, etc,
> > yet Pyrex gets away with selling a MORE dangerous product!? *What's
> > next? *Passenger seats in front of the grill and a youtube vid from
> > Jeff Gordon telling us to drive into a concrete abutment?
>
> > If the insurance companies had to shell out more money, you can bet
> > Pyrex would be making safer glass. *I solved the whole problem by
> > tossing all my exploding soda-lime crap and buying steel pans or
> > stoneware.
>
> Yer a retard.

Years ago I had a few Pyrex pans that I used to cook on my gas
stove.
I still have my Pyrex coffee pot. I read that the original Pyrex
makers
sold the company. The new owners wanted to save money so they
changed the formular. Since them there's been lots of breakage.

Lucille

On 9/11/2011 6:41 PM, James Silverton wrote:
> On 9/11/2011 5:55 PM, Ron Capik wrote:
>> On 9/11/2011 5:29 PM, projectile vomit chick wrote:
>>> On Sep 11, 11:35 am, > wrote:
>>>> On Sep 11, 10:41 am, > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It appears that World Kitchen (which makes Pyrex™) has hired "Food
>>>>> Network celebrity" Sandra Lee for a nationwide consumer education
>>>>> campaign. The campaign aims to teach consumers how to safely use their
>>>>> products so that the glass will not suddenly explode.
>>>>
>>>>> http://pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=32
>>>>
>>>>> ================================================== ====================
>>>>> ISLAM: Winning the hearts and minds of the world, one bomb at a time.
>>>>
>>>> That in itself ought to be a warning NOT to buy. I treasure my ages
>>>> old Pyrex and Anchor HOcking.
>>>
>>> As do I. I have some great pieces from the sixties, wonderful stuff.
>>
>> It's not about quality control, it's about the microwave generation.
>> Microwave ovens can induce thermal stress that can explode
>> old or new Pyrex™ cookware.
>
> It's not microwave ovens, it's the use of white glass rather than
> Pyroceram, which was great, if under appreciated !
>
>
Pyrex™ is not (and never has been) white glass.

==

On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:28:44 -0700 (PDT), projectile vomit chick
> wrote:

>On Sep 11, 10:02*am, notbob > wrote:
>> On 2011-09-11, Ubiquitous > wrote:
>>
>> > It appears that World Kitchen (which makes Pyrex ) has hired "Food
>> > Network celebrity" Sandra Lee for a nationwide consumer education
>> > campaign. The campaign aims to teach consumers how to safely use their
>> > products so that the glass will not suddenly explode.
>>
>> >http://pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=32
>>
>> Pretty sad when a mfr has to teach its customers how to use dangerous
>> products rather than make them safer.
>
>Pyrex is not dangerous, you nitwit. All there is to Pyrex is don't
>put it on a stove burner or change the temperature of it suddenly.
>
>Some people are such pussies. Everyone has to make everything "safer"
>for them, because they can't grasp the concept of common sense.

Gotta make sure they put on pampers before squeezin' their head.


>>*How come in cars we gotta
>> buckle up, buy kid seats, pay for incredibly expensive airbags, etc,
>> yet Pyrex gets away with selling a MORE dangerous product!? *What's
>> next? *Passenger seats in front of the grill and a youtube vid from
>> Jeff Gordon telling us to drive into a concrete abutment?
>>
>> If the insurance companies had to shell out more money, you can bet
>> Pyrex would be making safer glass. *I solved the whole problem by
>> tossing all my exploding soda-lime crap and buying plastic dildoes!.
>
>Yer a retard.

Yeah, he's ruining the story of Cinderella's glass slipper... speaking
of glass slippers... WOW... almost makes notbob wish he were a girl,
hehe:
http://www.blowfish.com/catalog/toys...tml#t-glw-2245

On Sep 11, 6:45*pm, Ron Capik > wrote:
> On 9/11/2011 6:41 PM, James Silverton wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 9/11/2011 5:55 PM, Ron Capik wrote:
> >> On 9/11/2011 5:29 PM, projectile vomit chick wrote:
> >>> On Sep 11, 11:35 am, > wrote:
> >>>> On Sep 11, 10:41 am, > wrote:
>
> >>>>> It appears that World Kitchen (which makes Pyrex™) has hired "Food
> >>>>> Network celebrity" Sandra Lee for a nationwide consumer education
> >>>>> campaign. The campaign aims to teach consumers how to safely use their
> >>>>> products so that the glass will not suddenly explode.
>
> >>>>>http://pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=32
>
> >>>>> ================================================== ====================
> >>>>> ISLAM: Winning the hearts and minds of the world, one bomb at a time.
>
> >>>> That in itself ought to be a warning NOT to buy. I treasure my ages
> >>>> old Pyrex and Anchor HOcking.
>
> >>> As do I. I have some great pieces from the sixties, wonderful stuff.
>
> >> It's not about quality control, it's about the microwave generation.
> >> Microwave ovens can induce thermal stress that can explode
> >> old or new Pyrex™ cookware.
>
> > It's not microwave ovens, it's the use of white glass rather than
> > Pyroceram, which was great, if under appreciated !
>
> Pyrex™ is not (and never has been) white glass.
>
> ==- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

The Pyrex pans I had and the Pyrex coffee pot I have is clear glass.

Lucille

In article <2d1fe5b7-af03-42a6-93c6-
>, says...
>
> On Sep 11, 5:28*pm, projectile vomit chick
> > wrote:
> > On Sep 11, 10:02*am, notbob > wrote:
> >
> > > On 2011-09-11, Ubiquitous > wrote:
> >
> > > > It appears that World Kitchen (which makes Pyrex ) has hired "Food
> > > > Network celebrity" Sandra Lee for a nationwide consumer education
> > > > campaign. The campaign aims to teach consumers how to safely use their
> > > > products so that the glass will not suddenly explode.
> >
> > > >http://pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=32
> >
> > > Pretty sad when a mfr has to teach its customers how to use dangerous
> > > products rather than make them safer.
> >
> > Pyrex is not dangerous, you nitwit. *All there is to Pyrex is don't
> > put it on a stove burner or change the temperature of it suddenly.
> >
> > Some people are such pussies. *Everyone has to make everything "safer"
> > for them, because they can't grasp the concept of common sense.
> >
> > >*How come in cars we gotta
> > > buckle up, buy kid seats, pay for incredibly expensive airbags, etc,
> > > yet Pyrex gets away with selling a MORE dangerous product!? *What's
> > > next? *Passenger seats in front of the grill and a youtube vid from
> > > Jeff Gordon telling us to drive into a concrete abutment?
> >
> > > If the insurance companies had to shell out more money, you can bet
> > > Pyrex would be making safer glass. *I solved the whole problem by
> > > tossing all my exploding soda-lime crap and buying steel pans or
> > > stoneware.
> >
> > Yer a retard.
>
> Years ago I had a few Pyrex pans that I used to cook on my gas
> stove.
> I still have my Pyrex coffee pot. I read that the original Pyrex
> makers
> sold the company. The new owners wanted to save money so they
> changed the formular. Since them there's been lots of breakage.

The formula changed long before the brand was sold. The "company" is
Corning Glass, they spun off their cookware operation as "World
Kitchen" in 1997, however they had gone to tempered soda-lime glass
instead of borosilicate long before that--according to the current
owners of the factory the change was made in the 1940s. And anyone who
has ever dropped a Bodum drinking glass will tell you that borosilicate
is not particularly durable.

On my list of things to be afraid of "exploding pyrex" comes somewhere
behind "struck on the head by a meteorite".

On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 21:05:30 -0400, "J. Clarke"
> wrote:

> The formula changed long before the brand was sold. The "company" is
> Corning Glass, they spun off their cookware operation as "World
> Kitchen" in 1997, however they had gone to tempered soda-lime glass
> instead of borosilicate long before that--according to the current
> owners of the factory the change was made in the 1940s. And anyone who
> has ever dropped a Bodum drinking glass will tell you that borosilicate
> is not particularly durable.
>
> On my list of things to be afraid of "exploding pyrex" comes somewhere
> behind "struck on the head by a meteorite".

<laughing> I thought I was the only person who felt that way.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

> On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 21:05:30 -0400, "J. Clarke"
> > wrote:
>
>> The formula changed long before the brand was sold. The "company" is
>> Corning Glass, they spun off their cookware operation as "World
>> Kitchen" in 1997, however they had gone to tempered soda-lime glass
>> instead of borosilicate long before that--according to the current
>> owners of the factory the change was made in the 1940s. And anyone who
>> has ever dropped a Bodum drinking glass will tell you that borosilicate
>> is not particularly durable.
>>
>> On my list of things to be afraid of "exploding pyrex" comes somewhere
>> behind "struck on the head by a meteorite".


I did break a piece of Pyrex maybe a half dozen years ago. It was my fault
in handling, adding a cool liquid to a hot dish. As soon as the liquid hit
the dish, I knew it was just a dumb, thoughless, moment for me and it
cracked in half. What is shown in the Sandra Lee video is just plain
common sense with any glass oven product.


http://www.pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=30#TruthID30
Is Borosilicate glass safer or better than soda lime glass?

While both borosilicate and soda lime are appropriate compositions for glass
bakeware, heat-strengthened soda lime is more resistant to impact breakage -
the far more likely cause of consumer injury according to national emergency
room data. All glass, whether soda lime or borosilicate, can experience
thermal breakage if exposed to sudden or uneven temperature changes

On 9/11/2011 9:05 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
> In article<2d1fe5b7-af03-42a6-93c6-
> >, says...
>>
>> On Sep 11, 5:28 pm, projectile vomit chick
>> > wrote:
>>> On Sep 11, 10:02 am, > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2011-09-11, > wrote:
>>>
>>>>> It appears that World Kitchen (which makes Pyrex ) has hired "Food
>>>>> Network celebrity" Sandra Lee for a nationwide consumer education
>>>>> campaign. The campaign aims to teach consumers how to safely use their
>>>>> products so that the glass will not suddenly explode.
>>>
>>>>> http://pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=32
>>>
>>>> Pretty sad when a mfr has to teach its customers how to use dangerous
>>>> products rather than make them safer.
>>>
>>> Pyrex is not dangerous, you nitwit. All there is to Pyrex is don't
>>> put it on a stove burner or change the temperature of it suddenly.
>>>
>>> Some people are such pussies. Everyone has to make everything "safer"
>>> for them, because they can't grasp the concept of common sense.
>>>
>>>> How come in cars we gotta
>>>> buckle up, buy kid seats, pay for incredibly expensive airbags, etc,
>>>> yet Pyrex gets away with selling a MORE dangerous product!? What's
>>>> next? Passenger seats in front of the grill and a youtube vid from
>>>> Jeff Gordon telling us to drive into a concrete abutment?
>>>
>>>> If the insurance companies had to shell out more money, you can bet
>>>> Pyrex would be making safer glass. I solved the whole problem by
>>>> tossing all my exploding soda-lime crap and buying steel pans or
>>>> stoneware.
>>>
>>> Yer a retard.
>>
>> Years ago I had a few Pyrex pans that I used to cook on my gas
>> stove.
>> I still have my Pyrex coffee pot. I read that the original Pyrex
>> makers
>> sold the company. The new owners wanted to save money so they
>> changed the formular. Since them there's been lots of breakage.
>
> The formula changed long before the brand was sold. The "company" is
> Corning Glass, they spun off their cookware operation as "World
> Kitchen" in 1997, however they had gone to tempered soda-lime glass
> instead of borosilicate long before that--according to the current
> owners of the factory the change was made in the 1940s. And anyone who
> has ever dropped a Bodum drinking glass will tell you that borosilicate
> is not particularly durable.
>
> On my list of things to be afraid of "exploding pyrex" comes somewhere
> behind "struck on the head by a meteorite".

I am quite sure you and I both know the difference between Pyrex and
Corelle. There still is a white glass line called Corelle but it is not
Pyroceram, which started as glass but was partially crystallized and
allowed putting a red hot dish into water without breaking. It could
break if dropped on a hard surface. I don't make coffee that way any
more but but, since the 60's, I have had my white coffee pot with blue
cornflower decoration which was heated directly on the stove.
Incidentally, the dishes were not suitable for use in a microwave since
the blue metallic decoration tended to heat faster than the rest. Tho
you can get away with a few minutes nuking, it is not a good idea.

--


James Silverton, Potomac

I'm *not*

On Sep 11, 10:41*am, Ubiquitous > wrote:
> It appears that World Kitchen (which makes Pyrex™) has hired "Food
> Network celebrity" Sandra Lee for a nationwide consumer education
> campaign. The campaign aims to teach consumers how to safely use their
> products so that the glass will not suddenly explode.
>
> http://pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=32

That's because what's called Pyrex nowadays isn't what Corning called
Pyrex when they first made it. Real Pyrex (borosilicate glass) as used
in laboratory glassware can be heated directly in a flame, and on an
exposed-coil electric stovetop with just a thin wire spacer. I have a
saucepan and skillet (both Corning Pyrex) that have been used over
direct flame for over 50 years. No explosions.

Jerry
--
Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.

Jerry Avins wrote:
>
> That's because what's called Pyrex nowadays isn't what Corning called
> Pyrex when they first made it. Real Pyrex (borosilicate glass) as used
> in laboratory glassware can be heated directly in a flame, and on an
> exposed-coil electric stovetop with just a thin wire spacer. I have a
> saucepan and skillet (both Corning Pyrex) that have been used over
> direct flame for over 50 years. No explosions.

Just a lot of stuck food.

On 09/11/2011 05:45 PM, Ron Capik wrote:

> Pyrex™ is not (and never has been) white glass.

My understanding is that it's no longer borosilicate.

In article >,
says...
>
> On 9/11/2011 9:05 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
> > In article<2d1fe5b7-af03-42a6-93c6-
> > >, says...
> >>
> >> On Sep 11, 5:28 pm, projectile vomit chick
> >> > wrote:
> >>> On Sep 11, 10:02 am, > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 2011-09-11, > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> It appears that World Kitchen (which makes Pyrex ) has hired "Food
> >>>>> Network celebrity" Sandra Lee for a nationwide consumer education
> >>>>> campaign. The campaign aims to teach consumers how to safely use their
> >>>>> products so that the glass will not suddenly explode.
> >>>
> >>>>> http://pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=32
> >>>
> >>>> Pretty sad when a mfr has to teach its customers how to use dangerous
> >>>> products rather than make them safer.
> >>>
> >>> Pyrex is not dangerous, you nitwit. All there is to Pyrex is don't
> >>> put it on a stove burner or change the temperature of it suddenly.
> >>>
> >>> Some people are such pussies. Everyone has to make everything "safer"
> >>> for them, because they can't grasp the concept of common sense.
> >>>
> >>>> How come in cars we gotta
> >>>> buckle up, buy kid seats, pay for incredibly expensive airbags, etc,
> >>>> yet Pyrex gets away with selling a MORE dangerous product!? What's
> >>>> next? Passenger seats in front of the grill and a youtube vid from
> >>>> Jeff Gordon telling us to drive into a concrete abutment?
> >>>
> >>>> If the insurance companies had to shell out more money, you can bet
> >>>> Pyrex would be making safer glass. I solved the whole problem by
> >>>> tossing all my exploding soda-lime crap and buying steel pans or
> >>>> stoneware.
> >>>
> >>> Yer a retard.
> >>
> >> Years ago I had a few Pyrex pans that I used to cook on my gas
> >> stove.
> >> I still have my Pyrex coffee pot. I read that the original Pyrex
> >> makers
> >> sold the company. The new owners wanted to save money so they
> >> changed the formular. Since them there's been lots of breakage.
> >
> > The formula changed long before the brand was sold. The "company" is
> > Corning Glass, they spun off their cookware operation as "World
> > Kitchen" in 1997, however they had gone to tempered soda-lime glass
> > instead of borosilicate long before that--according to the current
> > owners of the factory the change was made in the 1940s. And anyone who
> > has ever dropped a Bodum drinking glass will tell you that borosilicate
> > is not particularly durable.
> >
> > On my list of things to be afraid of "exploding pyrex" comes somewhere
> > behind "struck on the head by a meteorite".
>
> I am quite sure you and I both know the difference between Pyrex and
> Corelle.

We weren't talking about Corelle so why are you bringing it into the
discussion?

> There still is a white glass line called Corelle but it is not
> Pyroceram, which started as glass but was partially crystallized and
> allowed putting a red hot dish into water without breaking. It could
> break if dropped on a hard surface.

That's nice but what does it have to do with Pyrex?

> I don't make coffee that way any
> more but but, since the 60's, I have had my white coffee pot with blue
> cornflower decoration which was heated directly on the stove.
> Incidentally, the dishes were not suitable for use in a microwave since
> the blue metallic decoration tended to heat faster than the rest. Tho
> you can get away with a few minutes nuking, it is not a good idea.

Still don't see how your point is relevant to exploding Pyrex.

On 9/12/2011 2:53 AM, fratermus wrote:
> On 09/11/2011 05:45 PM, Ron Capik wrote:
>
>> Pyrex™ is not (and never has been) white glass.
>
> My understanding is that it's no longer borosilicate.
>
Sadly that seems to be true. I did some checking since
my first post and it seems they have been transitioning
to tempered soda-lime glass for some time.

Also, on reading up on the catastrophic failures it does
sound like something has gone wrong in the tempering
process or some such.

I mostly worked with fused silica [quartz] in my lab
so I had few worries about thermal stress. :-)

==

On Sep 11, 10:07*pm, "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote:
> > On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 21:05:30 -0400, "J. Clarke"
> > > wrote:
>
> >> The formula changed long before the brand was sold. *The "company" is
> >> Corning Glass, they spun off their cookware operation as "World
> >> Kitchen" in 1997, however they had gone to tempered soda-lime glass
> >> instead of borosilicate long before that--according to the current
> >> owners of the factory the change was made in the 1940s. *And anyone who
> >> has ever dropped a Bodum drinking glass will tell you that borosilicate
> >> is not particularly durable.
>
> >> On my list of things to be afraid of "exploding pyrex" comes somewhere
> >> behind "struck on the head by a meteorite".
>
> I did break a piece of Pyrex maybe a half dozen years ago. *It was my fault
> in handling, adding a cool liquid to a hot dish. *As soon as the liquid hit
> the dish, I knew it was just a dumb, thoughless, moment for me and it
> cracked in half. * What is shown in the Sandra Lee video is just plain
> common sense with any glass oven product.
>
> http://www.pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=30#TruthID30
> Is Borosilicate glass safer or better than soda lime glass?
>
> While both borosilicate and soda lime are appropriate compositions for glass
> bakeware, heat-strengthened soda lime is more resistant to impact breakage -
> the far more likely cause of consumer injury according to national emergency
> room data. All glass, whether soda lime or borosilicate, can experience
> thermal breakage if exposed to sudden or uneven temperature changes


This past early summer I dropprd a Pyrex cover that I loved. I used
it in the
microwave on a plate of food. I felt so bad about that. All the
glass covers
now have metal on them.

Lucille

On Sep 11, 10:27*pm, James Silverton >
wrote:
> On 9/11/2011 9:05 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article<2d1fe5b7-af03-42a6-93c6-
> > >, says....
>
> >> On Sep 11, 5:28 pm, projectile vomit chick
> >> > *wrote:
> >>> On Sep 11, 10:02 am, > *wrote:
>
> >>>> On 2011-09-11, > *wrote:
>
> >>>>> It appears that World Kitchen (which makes Pyrex ) has hired "Food
> >>>>> Network celebrity" Sandra Lee for a nationwide consumer education
> >>>>> campaign. The campaign aims to teach consumers how to safely use their
> >>>>> products so that the glass will not suddenly explode.
>
> >>>>>http://pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=32
>
> >>>> Pretty sad when a mfr has to teach its customers how to use dangerous
> >>>> products rather than make them safer.
>
> >>> Pyrex is not dangerous, you nitwit. *All there is to Pyrex is don't
> >>> put it on a stove burner or change the temperature of it suddenly.
>
> >>> Some people are such pussies. *Everyone has to make everything "safer"
> >>> for them, because they can't grasp the concept of common sense.
>
> >>>> * How come in cars we gotta
> >>>> buckle up, buy kid seats, pay for incredibly expensive airbags, etc,
> >>>> yet Pyrex gets away with selling a MORE dangerous product!? *What's
> >>>> next? *Passenger seats in front of the grill and a youtube vid from
> >>>> Jeff Gordon telling us to drive into a concrete abutment?
>
> >>>> If the insurance companies had to shell out more money, you can bet
> >>>> Pyrex would be making safer glass. *I solved the whole problem by
> >>>> tossing all my exploding soda-lime crap and buying steel pans or
> >>>> stoneware.
>
> >>> Yer a retard.
>
> >> Years ago I had a few Pyrex pans that I used to cook on my gas
> >> stove.
> >> I still have my Pyrex coffee pot. * I read that the original Pyrex
> >> makers
> >> sold the company. *The new owners wanted to save money so they
> >> changed the formular. * Since them there's been lots of breakage.
>
> > The formula changed long before the brand was sold. *The "company" is
> > Corning Glass, they spun off their cookware operation as "World
> > Kitchen" in 1997, however they had gone to tempered soda-lime glass
> > instead of borosilicate long before that--according to the current
> > owners of the factory the change was made in the 1940s. *And anyone who
> > has ever dropped a Bodum drinking glass will tell you that borosilicate
> > is not particularly durable.
>
> > On my list of things to be afraid of "exploding pyrex" comes somewhere
> > behind "struck on the head by a meteorite".
>
> I am quite sure you and I both know the difference between Pyrex and
> Corelle. There still is a white glass line called Corelle but it is not
> Pyroceram, which started as glass but was partially crystallized and
> allowed putting a red hot dish into water without breaking. It could
> break if dropped on a hard surface. *I don't make coffee that way any
> more but but, since the 60's, I have had my white coffee pot with blue
> cornflower decoration which was heated directly on the stove.
> Incidentally, the dishes were not suitable for use in a microwave since
> the blue metallic decoration tended to heat faster than the rest. Tho
> you can get away with a few minutes nuking, it is not a good idea.
>
> --
>
> James Silverton, Potomac
>
> I'm *not* - Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I still have a set of three small pans of Corning ware with that
blue flower and has clear Pyrex covers to fit them.

Lucille

Lucille wrote:
>James Silverton wrote:
>> J. Clarke wrote:
>> > In article<2d1fe5b7-af03-42a6-93c6-
>> > Lscha says...
>> >> projectile vomit chick wrote:
>> >>> notbob*wrote:
>> >>>> Ubiquitous*wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> It appears that World Kitchen (which makes Pyrex ) has hired "Food
>> >>>>> Network celebrity" Sandra Lee for a nationwide consumer education
>> >>>>> campaign. The campaign aims to teach consumers how to safely use their
>> >>>>> products so that the glass will not suddenly explode.
>>
>> >>>>>http://pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=32
>>
>> >>>> Pretty sad when a mfr has to teach its customers how to use dangerous
>> >>>> products rather than make them safer.
>>
>> >>> Pyrex is not dangerous, you nitwit. *All there is to Pyrex is don't
>> >>> put it on a stove burner or change the temperature of it suddenly.
>>
>> >>> Some people are such pussies. *Everyone has to make everything "safer"
>> >>> for them, because they can't grasp the concept of common sense.
>>
>> >>>> * How come in cars we gotta
>> >>>> buckle up, buy kid seats, pay for incredibly expensive airbags, etc,
>> >>>> yet Pyrex gets away with selling a MORE dangerous product!? *What's
>> >>>> next? *Passenger seats in front of the grill and a youtube vid from
>> >>>> Jeff Gordon telling us to drive into a concrete abutment?
>>
>> >>>> If the insurance companies had to shell out more money, you can bet
>> >>>> Pyrex would be making safer glass. *I solved the whole problem by
>> >>>> tossing all my exploding soda-lime crap and buying steel pans or
>> >>>> stoneware.
>>
>> >>> Yer a retard.
>>
>> >> Years ago I had a few Pyrex pans that I used to cook on my gas
>> >> stove.
>> >> I still have my Pyrex coffee pot. * I read that the original Pyrex
>> >> makers
>> >> sold the company. *The new owners wanted to save money so they
>> >> changed the formular. * Since them there's been lots of breakage.
>>
>> > The formula changed long before the brand was sold. *The "company" is
>> > Corning Glass, they spun off their cookware operation as "World
>> > Kitchen" in 1997, however they had gone to tempered soda-lime glass
>> > instead of borosilicate long before that--according to the current
>> > owners of the factory the change was made in the 1940s. *And anyone who
>> > has ever dropped a Bodum drinking glass will tell you that borosilicate
>> > is not particularly durable.
>>
>> > On my list of things to be afraid of "exploding pyrex" comes somewhere
>> > behind "struck on the head by a meteorite".
>>
>> I am quite sure you and I both know the difference between Pyrex and
>> Corelle. There still is a white glass line called Corelle but it is not
>> Pyroceram, which started as glass but was partially crystallized and
>> allowed putting a red hot dish into water without breaking. It could
>> break if dropped on a hard surface. *I don't make coffee that way any
>> more but but, since the 60's, I have had my white coffee pot with blue
>> cornflower decoration which was heated directly on the stove.
>> Incidentally, the dishes were not suitable for use in a microwave since
>> the blue metallic decoration tended to heat faster than the rest. Tho
>> you can get away with a few minutes nuking, it is not a good idea.
>>
>> I'm *not*
>
>I still have a set of three small pans of Corning ware with that
>blue flower and has clear Pyrex covers to fit them.

Me too. But I never cook/bake in glass, it's strictly for microwaving
and fridge storage or used for serving. And I rarely use those glass
lids for microwaving, I prefer plastic wrap... and I love big knobs
but not on Corning lids, the larger pieces won't fit in my microwave,
there's not enough headroom with those huge erectile knobs...
occasionally to heat something and rather than dirty a new container
to gain more headroom I'll place those lids upside down, but that can
ruin my appetite because they're so much like inverted nipples. eek Ya
know, inverted nipples are easily corrected by plastic surgery, do it!
http://www.kolkermd.com/newyorkplast...plesurgery.htm

On 9/12/2011 12:03 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> to gain more headroom I'll place those lids upside down, but that can
> ruin my appetite because they're so much like inverted nipples. eek Ya
> know, inverted nipples are easily corrected by plastic surgery, do it!
> http://www.kolkermd.com/newyorkplast...plesurgery.htm


I think you might have been weaned a bit early.

George L

On 9/11/2011 11:18 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2011-09-11, > wrote:
>
>> Too bad they just didn't call their ersatz pyrex "walglass" instead of
>> buying the pyrex brand. That way it would be less confusing.
>
> Cuz you buy it everywhere else, too.
>
> nb

That is why I thought "walglass" would be a good name. It isn't
"walmartglass" but clearly conveys the low price whatever the cost
walmart syndrome.

On Sep 12, 11:37*am, Lucille > wrote:
> On Sep 11, 10:07*pm, "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > > On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 21:05:30 -0400, "J. Clarke"
> > > > wrote:
>
> > >> The formula changed long before the brand was sold. *The "company" is
> > >> Corning Glass, they spun off their cookware operation as "World
> > >> Kitchen" in 1997, however they had gone to tempered soda-lime glass
> > >> instead of borosilicate long before that--according to the current
> > >> owners of the factory the change was made in the 1940s. *And anyone who
> > >> has ever dropped a Bodum drinking glass will tell you that borosilicate
> > >> is not particularly durable.
>
> > >> On my list of things to be afraid of "exploding pyrex" comes somewhere
> > >> behind "struck on the head by a meteorite".
>
> > I did break a piece of Pyrex maybe a half dozen years ago. *It was my fault
> > in handling, adding a cool liquid to a hot dish. *As soon as the liquid hit
> > the dish, I knew it was just a dumb, thoughless, moment for me and it
> > cracked in half. * What is shown in the Sandra Lee video is just plain
> > common sense with any glass oven product.
>
> >http://www.pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=30#TruthID30
> > Is Borosilicate glass safer or better than soda lime glass?
>
> > While both borosilicate and soda lime are appropriate compositions for glass
> > bakeware, heat-strengthened soda lime is more resistant to impact breakage -
> > the far more likely cause of consumer injury according to national emergency
> > room data. All glass, whether soda lime or borosilicate, can experience
> > thermal breakage if exposed to sudden or uneven temperature changes
>
> This past early summer I dropprd a Pyrex cover that I loved. *I used
> it in the
> microwave on a plate of food. * * I felt so bad about that. *All the
> glass covers
> now have metal on them.

Shop Salvation Army, Goodwill, and the like. Bring a rule or tape so
you don't have to guess about the size.

Jerry
--
Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can
get.

On Sep 11, 11:59*pm, Mark Thorson > wrote:
> Jerry Avins wrote:
>
> > That's because what's called Pyrex nowadays isn't what Corning called
> > Pyrex when they first made it. Real Pyrex (borosilicate glass) as used
> > in laboratory glassware can be heated directly in a flame, and on an
> > exposed-coil electric stovetop with just a thin wire spacer. I have a
> > saucepan and skillet (both Corning Pyrex) that have been used over
> > direct flame for over 50 years. No explosions.
>
> Just a lot of stuck food.

I fry eggs with no problem. Same as cast iron.

Jerry

On Sep 12, 11:41*am, Lucille > wrote:
> On Sep 11, 10:27*pm, James Silverton >
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 9/11/2011 9:05 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
>
> > > In article<2d1fe5b7-af03-42a6-93c6-
> > > >, says....
>
> > >> On Sep 11, 5:28 pm, projectile vomit chick
> > >> > *wrote:
> > >>> On Sep 11, 10:02 am, > *wrote:
>
> > >>>> On 2011-09-11, > *wrote:
>
> > >>>>> It appears that World Kitchen (which makes Pyrex ) has hired "Food
> > >>>>> Network celebrity" Sandra Lee for a nationwide consumer education
> > >>>>> campaign. The campaign aims to teach consumers how to safely use their
> > >>>>> products so that the glass will not suddenly explode.
>
> > >>>>>http://pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=32
>
> > >>>> Pretty sad when a mfr has to teach its customers how to use dangerous
> > >>>> products rather than make them safer.
>
> > >>> Pyrex is not dangerous, you nitwit. *All there is to Pyrex is don't
> > >>> put it on a stove burner or change the temperature of it suddenly.
>
> > >>> Some people are such pussies. *Everyone has to make everything "safer"
> > >>> for them, because they can't grasp the concept of common sense.
>
> > >>>> * How come in cars we gotta
> > >>>> buckle up, buy kid seats, pay for incredibly expensive airbags, etc,
> > >>>> yet Pyrex gets away with selling a MORE dangerous product!? *What's
> > >>>> next? *Passenger seats in front of the grill and a youtube vid from
> > >>>> Jeff Gordon telling us to drive into a concrete abutment?
>
> > >>>> If the insurance companies had to shell out more money, you can bet
> > >>>> Pyrex would be making safer glass. *I solved the whole problem by
> > >>>> tossing all my exploding soda-lime crap and buying steel pans or
> > >>>> stoneware.
>
> > >>> Yer a retard.
>
> > >> Years ago I had a few Pyrex pans that I used to cook on my gas
> > >> stove.
> > >> I still have my Pyrex coffee pot. * I read that the original Pyrex
> > >> makers
> > >> sold the company. *The new owners wanted to save money so they
> > >> changed the formular. * Since them there's been lots of breakage.
>
> > > The formula changed long before the brand was sold. *The "company" is
> > > Corning Glass, they spun off their cookware operation as "World
> > > Kitchen" in 1997, however they had gone to tempered soda-lime glass
> > > instead of borosilicate long before that--according to the current
> > > owners of the factory the change was made in the 1940s. *And anyone who
> > > has ever dropped a Bodum drinking glass will tell you that borosilicate
> > > is not particularly durable.
>
> > > On my list of things to be afraid of "exploding pyrex" comes somewhere
> > > behind "struck on the head by a meteorite".
>
> > I am quite sure you and I both know the difference between Pyrex and
> > Corelle. There still is a white glass line called Corelle but it is not
> > Pyroceram, which started as glass but was partially crystallized and
> > allowed putting a red hot dish into water without breaking. It could
> > break if dropped on a hard surface. *I don't make coffee that way any
> > more but but, since the 60's, I have had my white coffee pot with blue
> > cornflower decoration which was heated directly on the stove.
> > Incidentally, the dishes were not suitable for use in a microwave since
> > the blue metallic decoration tended to heat faster than the rest. Tho
> > you can get away with a few minutes nuking, it is not a good idea.
>
> > --
>
> > James Silverton, Potomac
>
> > I'm *not* - Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I still have a set of three small pans of Corning ware with that
> blue flower and has clear Pyrex covers to fit them.
>
> Lucille

You remind me that I have some Cornflower stuff somewhere. I ought to
look for it.

Jerry
--
Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.

On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 13:12:07 -0400, George >
wrote:

> On 9/11/2011 11:18 AM, notbob wrote:
> > On 2011-09-11, > wrote:
> >
> >> Too bad they just didn't call their ersatz pyrex "walglass" instead of
> >> buying the pyrex brand. That way it would be less confusing.
> >
> > Cuz you buy it everywhere else, too.
> >
> > nb
>
> That is why I thought "walglass" would be a good name. It isn't
> "walmartglass" but clearly conveys the low price whatever the cost
> walmart syndrome.

Don't worry, the rest of us understood the concept... and he thinks
he's not argumentative. sheesh

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 09:48:15 -0400, Ron Capik > wrote:

>On 9/12/2011 2:53 AM, fratermus wrote:
>> On 09/11/2011 05:45 PM, Ron Capik wrote:
>>
>>> Pyrex™ is not (and never has been) white glass.
>>
>> My understanding is that it's no longer borosilicate.
>>
>Sadly that seems to be true. I did some checking since
>my first post and it seems they have been transitioning
>to tempered soda-lime glass for some time.

Yeah. That's what all the bitching is about.

On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 11:04:00 -0700 (PDT), Jerry Avins >
wrote:

> Shop Salvation Army, Goodwill, and the like. Bring a rule or tape so
> you don't have to guess about the size.

I have enough lids that are missing their original pot & pans that I
can tell you to measure to the nth because I can eyeball petty
closely, but even 1/4 inch makes a difference.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

"Ron Capik" > wrote in message
news
> On 9/12/2011 2:53 AM, fratermus wrote:
>> On 09/11/2011 05:45 PM, Ron Capik wrote:
>>
>>> Pyrex™ is not (and never has been) white glass.
>>
>> My understanding is that it's no longer borosilicate.
>>
> Sadly that seems to be true. I did some checking since
> my first post and it seems they have been transitioning
> to tempered soda-lime glass for some time.
>
> Also, on reading up on the catastrophic failures it does
> sound like something has gone wrong in the tempering
> process or some such.
>
> I mostly worked with fused silica [quartz] in my lab
> so I had few worries about thermal stress. :-)
>
> ==

It has not been for the last 50+ years. Why the fuss now? Must have been a
competitor starting a bashing campaign.

In article >, lid says...
>
> On 9/11/2011 11:18 AM, notbob wrote:
> > On 2011-09-11, > wrote:
> >
> >> Too bad they just didn't call their ersatz pyrex "walglass" instead of
> >> buying the pyrex brand. That way it would be less confusing.
> >
> > Cuz you buy it everywhere else, too.
> >
> > nb
>
> That is why I thought "walglass" would be a good name. It isn't
> "walmartglass" but clearly conveys the low price whatever the cost
> walmart syndrome.

And yet it's made in the same factory using the same process as the
Pyrex cookware that Corning was selling more than half a century ago, so
I guess Corning should have called it "walglass" in 1950 too.

The Pyrex labware is still borosilicate.

On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:16:39 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski"
> wrote:

> It has not been for the last 50+ years. Why the fuss now? Must have been a
> competitor starting a bashing campaign.

It has been mentioned several times here by various well known
posters. Put me in the "so what else is new" category. Times change,
products cheapen.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:16:39 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski"
> > wrote:
>
>> It has not been for the last 50+ years. Why the fuss now? Must have
>> been a
>> competitor starting a bashing campaign.
>
> It has been mentioned several times here by various well known
> posters. Put me in the "so what else is new" category. Times change,
> products cheapen.
>
> --
> I love cooking with wine.
> Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Hmmm, I wonder if it has been cheapened, such as thinner walls. I've not
bought any in many years so I don't have the newer stuff to compare, but
I'll stop and look if I think of it.

On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 00:00:00 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:16:39 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> It has not been for the last 50+ years. Why the fuss now? Must have
> >> been a
> >> competitor starting a bashing campaign.
> >
> > It has been mentioned several times here by various well known
> > posters. Put me in the "so what else is new" category. Times change,
> > products cheapen.
> >
>
> Hmmm, I wonder if it has been cheapened, such as thinner walls. I've not
> bought any in many years so I don't have the newer stuff to compare, but
> I'll stop and look if I think of it.

No idea if it has thinner walls or if that even matters.

None of the Pyrex I've purchased in my lifetime as an adult (which is
well after the reformulation) has ever broken; so here's what I really
think: People who complain about Pyrex breaking did stupid things and
then tried to act as if it wasn't their fault. Nuff said 'bout dat.
I have no sympathy for them.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On 2011-09-13, sf > wrote:

> No idea if it has thinner walls or if that even matters.

It doesn't. Borosilicate lab glass 1/3rd the thickness of bakeware
can safely go directly from a burner to cold water without breaking.

nb