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SLop discusses how to use Pyrex glassware safely
It appears that World Kitchen (which makes Pyrex™) has hired "Food
Network celebrity" Sandra Lee for a nationwide consumer education campaign. The campaign aims to teach consumers how to safely use their products so that the glass will not suddenly explode. http://pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=32 ================================================== ==================== ISLAM: Winning the hearts and minds of the world, one bomb at a time. |
SLop discusses how to use Pyrex glassware safely
On 2011-09-11, Ubiquitous > wrote:
> It appears that World Kitchen (which makes Pyrex™) has hired "Food > Network celebrity" Sandra Lee for a nationwide consumer education > campaign. The campaign aims to teach consumers how to safely use their > products so that the glass will not suddenly explode. > > http://pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=32 Pretty sad when a mfr has to teach its customers how to use dangerous products rather than make them safer. How come in cars we gotta buckle up, buy kid seats, pay for incredibly expensive airbags, etc, yet Pyrex gets away with selling a MORE dangerous product!? What's next? Passenger seats in front of the grill and a youtube vid from Jeff Gordon telling us to drive into a concrete abutment? If the insurance companies had to shell out more money, you can bet Pyrex would be making safer glass. I solved the whole problem by tossing all my exploding soda-lime crap and buying steel pans or stoneware. nb |
SLop discusses how to use Pyrex glassware safely
On 9/11/2011 10:41 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
> It appears that World Kitchen (which makes Pyrex™) has hired "Food > Network celebrity" Sandra Lee for a nationwide consumer education > campaign. The campaign aims to teach consumers how to safely use their > products so that the glass will not suddenly explode. > > http://pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=32 > > ================================================== ==================== > ISLAM: Winning the hearts and minds of the world, one bomb at a time. > One of the results of the "walmart culture" where all that matters is cheap prices. Too bad they just didn't call their ersatz pyrex "walglass" instead of buying the pyrex brand. That way it would be less confusing. |
SLop discusses how to use Pyrex glassware safely
On 2011-09-11, George > wrote:
> Too bad they just didn't call their ersatz pyrex "walglass" instead of > buying the pyrex brand. That way it would be less confusing. Cuz you buy it everywhere else, too. nb |
SLop discusses how to use Pyrex glassware safely
On Sep 11, 10:41*am, Ubiquitous > wrote:
> It appears that World Kitchen (which makes Pyrex™) has hired "Food > Network celebrity" Sandra Lee for a nationwide consumer education > campaign. The campaign aims to teach consumers how to safely use their > products so that the glass will not suddenly explode. > > http://pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=32 > > ================================================== ==================== > ISLAM: Winning the hearts and minds of the world, one bomb at a time. That in itself ought to be a warning NOT to buy. I treasure my ages old Pyrex and Anchor HOcking. |
SLop discusses how to use Pyrex glassware safely
On Sep 11, 10:02*am, notbob > wrote:
> On 2011-09-11, Ubiquitous > wrote: > > > It appears that World Kitchen (which makes Pyrex ) has hired "Food > > Network celebrity" Sandra Lee for a nationwide consumer education > > campaign. The campaign aims to teach consumers how to safely use their > > products so that the glass will not suddenly explode. > > >http://pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=32 > > Pretty sad when a mfr has to teach its customers how to use dangerous > products rather than make them safer. Pyrex is not dangerous, you nitwit. All there is to Pyrex is don't put it on a stove burner or change the temperature of it suddenly. Some people are such pussies. Everyone has to make everything "safer" for them, because they can't grasp the concept of common sense. >*How come in cars we gotta > buckle up, buy kid seats, pay for incredibly expensive airbags, etc, > yet Pyrex gets away with selling a MORE dangerous product!? *What's > next? *Passenger seats in front of the grill and a youtube vid from > Jeff Gordon telling us to drive into a concrete abutment? > > If the insurance companies had to shell out more money, you can bet > Pyrex would be making safer glass. *I solved the whole problem by > tossing all my exploding soda-lime crap and buying steel pans or > stoneware. Yer a retard. |
SLop discusses how to use Pyrex glassware safely
On Sep 11, 11:35*am, Kalmia > wrote:
> On Sep 11, 10:41*am, Ubiquitous > wrote: > > > It appears that World Kitchen (which makes Pyrex™) has hired "Food > > Network celebrity" Sandra Lee for a nationwide consumer education > > campaign. The campaign aims to teach consumers how to safely use their > > products so that the glass will not suddenly explode. > > >http://pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=32 > > > ================================================== ==================== > > ISLAM: Winning the hearts and minds of the world, one bomb at a time. > > That in itself ought to be a warning NOT to buy. *I treasure my ages > old Pyrex and Anchor HOcking. As do I. I have some great pieces from the sixties, wonderful stuff. |
SLop discusses how to use Pyrex glassware safely
On 9/11/2011 5:29 PM, projectile vomit chick wrote:
> On Sep 11, 11:35 am, > wrote: >> On Sep 11, 10:41 am, > wrote: >> >>> It appears that World Kitchen (which makes Pyrex™) has hired "Food >>> Network celebrity" Sandra Lee for a nationwide consumer education >>> campaign. The campaign aims to teach consumers how to safely use their >>> products so that the glass will not suddenly explode. >> >>> http://pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=32 >> >>> ================================================== ==================== >>> ISLAM: Winning the hearts and minds of the world, one bomb at a time. >> >> That in itself ought to be a warning NOT to buy. I treasure my ages >> old Pyrex and Anchor HOcking. > > As do I. I have some great pieces from the sixties, wonderful stuff. It's not about quality control, it's about the microwave generation. Microwave ovens can induce thermal stress that can explode old or new Pyrex™ cookware. == |
SLop discusses how to use Pyrex glassware safely
On 9/11/2011 5:55 PM, Ron Capik wrote:
> On 9/11/2011 5:29 PM, projectile vomit chick wrote: >> On Sep 11, 11:35 am, > wrote: >>> On Sep 11, 10:41 am, > wrote: >>> >>>> It appears that World Kitchen (which makes Pyrex™) has hired "Food >>>> Network celebrity" Sandra Lee for a nationwide consumer education >>>> campaign. The campaign aims to teach consumers how to safely use their >>>> products so that the glass will not suddenly explode. >>> >>>> http://pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=32 >>> >>>> ================================================== ==================== >>>> ISLAM: Winning the hearts and minds of the world, one bomb at a time. >>> >>> That in itself ought to be a warning NOT to buy. I treasure my ages >>> old Pyrex and Anchor HOcking. >> >> As do I. I have some great pieces from the sixties, wonderful stuff. > > It's not about quality control, it's about the microwave generation. > Microwave ovens can induce thermal stress that can explode > old or new Pyrex™ cookware. It's not microwave ovens, it's the use of white glass rather than Pyroceram, which was great, if under appreciated ! -- James Silverton, Potomac I'm *not* |
SLop discusses how to use Pyrex glassware safely
On 9/11/2011 5:55 PM, Ron Capik wrote:
> On 9/11/2011 5:29 PM, projectile vomit chick wrote: >> On Sep 11, 11:35 am, > wrote: >>> On Sep 11, 10:41 am, > wrote: >>> >>>> It appears that World Kitchen (which makes Pyrex™) has hired "Food >>>> Network celebrity" Sandra Lee for a nationwide consumer education >>>> campaign. The campaign aims to teach consumers how to safely use their >>>> products so that the glass will not suddenly explode. >>> >>>> http://pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=32 >>> >>>> ================================================== ==================== >>>> ISLAM: Winning the hearts and minds of the world, one bomb at a time. >>> >>> That in itself ought to be a warning NOT to buy. I treasure my ages >>> old Pyrex and Anchor HOcking. >> >> As do I. I have some great pieces from the sixties, wonderful stuff. > > It's not about quality control, it's about the microwave generation. > Microwave ovens can induce thermal stress that can explode > old or new Pyrex™ cookware. > > == Look for the clear Pyrex at garage sales and thrift stores. The green-tinted stuff they sell as Pyrex now is a different formula and production process, and not nearly as durable. -- aem sends... |
SLop discusses how to use Pyrex glassware safely
On Sep 11, 5:28*pm, projectile vomit chick
> wrote: > On Sep 11, 10:02*am, notbob > wrote: > > > On 2011-09-11, Ubiquitous > wrote: > > > > It appears that World Kitchen (which makes Pyrex ) has hired "Food > > > Network celebrity" Sandra Lee for a nationwide consumer education > > > campaign. The campaign aims to teach consumers how to safely use their > > > products so that the glass will not suddenly explode. > > > >http://pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=32 > > > Pretty sad when a mfr has to teach its customers how to use dangerous > > products rather than make them safer. > > Pyrex is not dangerous, you nitwit. *All there is to Pyrex is don't > put it on a stove burner or change the temperature of it suddenly. > > Some people are such pussies. *Everyone has to make everything "safer" > for them, because they can't grasp the concept of common sense. > > >*How come in cars we gotta > > buckle up, buy kid seats, pay for incredibly expensive airbags, etc, > > yet Pyrex gets away with selling a MORE dangerous product!? *What's > > next? *Passenger seats in front of the grill and a youtube vid from > > Jeff Gordon telling us to drive into a concrete abutment? > > > If the insurance companies had to shell out more money, you can bet > > Pyrex would be making safer glass. *I solved the whole problem by > > tossing all my exploding soda-lime crap and buying steel pans or > > stoneware. > > Yer a retard. Years ago I had a few Pyrex pans that I used to cook on my gas stove. I still have my Pyrex coffee pot. I read that the original Pyrex makers sold the company. The new owners wanted to save money so they changed the formular. Since them there's been lots of breakage. Lucille |
SLop discusses how to use Pyrex glassware safely
On 9/11/2011 6:41 PM, James Silverton wrote:
> On 9/11/2011 5:55 PM, Ron Capik wrote: >> On 9/11/2011 5:29 PM, projectile vomit chick wrote: >>> On Sep 11, 11:35 am, > wrote: >>>> On Sep 11, 10:41 am, > wrote: >>>> >>>>> It appears that World Kitchen (which makes Pyrex™) has hired "Food >>>>> Network celebrity" Sandra Lee for a nationwide consumer education >>>>> campaign. The campaign aims to teach consumers how to safely use their >>>>> products so that the glass will not suddenly explode. >>>> >>>>> http://pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=32 >>>> >>>>> ================================================== ==================== >>>>> ISLAM: Winning the hearts and minds of the world, one bomb at a time. >>>> >>>> That in itself ought to be a warning NOT to buy. I treasure my ages >>>> old Pyrex and Anchor HOcking. >>> >>> As do I. I have some great pieces from the sixties, wonderful stuff. >> >> It's not about quality control, it's about the microwave generation. >> Microwave ovens can induce thermal stress that can explode >> old or new Pyrex™ cookware. > > It's not microwave ovens, it's the use of white glass rather than > Pyroceram, which was great, if under appreciated ! > > Pyrex™ is not (and never has been) white glass. == |
SLop discusses how to use Pyrex glassware safely
On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:28:44 -0700 (PDT), projectile vomit chick
> wrote: >On Sep 11, 10:02*am, notbob > wrote: >> On 2011-09-11, Ubiquitous > wrote: >> >> > It appears that World Kitchen (which makes Pyrex ) has hired "Food >> > Network celebrity" Sandra Lee for a nationwide consumer education >> > campaign. The campaign aims to teach consumers how to safely use their >> > products so that the glass will not suddenly explode. >> >> >http://pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=32 >> >> Pretty sad when a mfr has to teach its customers how to use dangerous >> products rather than make them safer. > >Pyrex is not dangerous, you nitwit. All there is to Pyrex is don't >put it on a stove burner or change the temperature of it suddenly. > >Some people are such pussies. Everyone has to make everything "safer" >for them, because they can't grasp the concept of common sense. Gotta make sure they put on pampers before squeezin' their head. >>*How come in cars we gotta >> buckle up, buy kid seats, pay for incredibly expensive airbags, etc, >> yet Pyrex gets away with selling a MORE dangerous product!? *What's >> next? *Passenger seats in front of the grill and a youtube vid from >> Jeff Gordon telling us to drive into a concrete abutment? >> >> If the insurance companies had to shell out more money, you can bet >> Pyrex would be making safer glass. *I solved the whole problem by >> tossing all my exploding soda-lime crap and buying plastic dildoes!. > >Yer a retard. Yeah, he's ruining the story of Cinderella's glass slipper... speaking of glass slippers... WOW... almost makes notbob wish he were a girl, hehe: http://www.blowfish.com/catalog/toys...tml#t-glw-2245 |
SLop discusses how to use Pyrex glassware safely
On Sep 11, 6:45*pm, Ron Capik > wrote:
> On 9/11/2011 6:41 PM, James Silverton wrote: > > > > > On 9/11/2011 5:55 PM, Ron Capik wrote: > >> On 9/11/2011 5:29 PM, projectile vomit chick wrote: > >>> On Sep 11, 11:35 am, > wrote: > >>>> On Sep 11, 10:41 am, > wrote: > > >>>>> It appears that World Kitchen (which makes Pyrex™) has hired "Food > >>>>> Network celebrity" Sandra Lee for a nationwide consumer education > >>>>> campaign. The campaign aims to teach consumers how to safely use their > >>>>> products so that the glass will not suddenly explode. > > >>>>>http://pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=32 > > >>>>> ================================================== ==================== > >>>>> ISLAM: Winning the hearts and minds of the world, one bomb at a time. > > >>>> That in itself ought to be a warning NOT to buy. I treasure my ages > >>>> old Pyrex and Anchor HOcking. > > >>> As do I. I have some great pieces from the sixties, wonderful stuff. > > >> It's not about quality control, it's about the microwave generation. > >> Microwave ovens can induce thermal stress that can explode > >> old or new Pyrex™ cookware. > > > It's not microwave ovens, it's the use of white glass rather than > > Pyroceram, which was great, if under appreciated ! > > Pyrex™ is not (and never has been) white glass. > > ==- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - The Pyrex pans I had and the Pyrex coffee pot I have is clear glass. Lucille |
SLop discusses how to use Pyrex glassware safely
On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 21:05:30 -0400, "J. Clarke"
> wrote: > The formula changed long before the brand was sold. The "company" is > Corning Glass, they spun off their cookware operation as "World > Kitchen" in 1997, however they had gone to tempered soda-lime glass > instead of borosilicate long before that--according to the current > owners of the factory the change was made in the 1940s. And anyone who > has ever dropped a Bodum drinking glass will tell you that borosilicate > is not particularly durable. > > On my list of things to be afraid of "exploding pyrex" comes somewhere > behind "struck on the head by a meteorite". <laughing> I thought I was the only person who felt that way. -- I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
SLop discusses how to use Pyrex glassware safely
> On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 21:05:30 -0400, "J. Clarke" > > wrote: > >> The formula changed long before the brand was sold. The "company" is >> Corning Glass, they spun off their cookware operation as "World >> Kitchen" in 1997, however they had gone to tempered soda-lime glass >> instead of borosilicate long before that--according to the current >> owners of the factory the change was made in the 1940s. And anyone who >> has ever dropped a Bodum drinking glass will tell you that borosilicate >> is not particularly durable. >> >> On my list of things to be afraid of "exploding pyrex" comes somewhere >> behind "struck on the head by a meteorite". I did break a piece of Pyrex maybe a half dozen years ago. It was my fault in handling, adding a cool liquid to a hot dish. As soon as the liquid hit the dish, I knew it was just a dumb, thoughless, moment for me and it cracked in half. What is shown in the Sandra Lee video is just plain common sense with any glass oven product. http://www.pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=30#TruthID30 Is Borosilicate glass safer or better than soda lime glass? While both borosilicate and soda lime are appropriate compositions for glass bakeware, heat-strengthened soda lime is more resistant to impact breakage - the far more likely cause of consumer injury according to national emergency room data. All glass, whether soda lime or borosilicate, can experience thermal breakage if exposed to sudden or uneven temperature changes |
SLop discusses how to use Pyrex glassware safely
On 9/11/2011 9:05 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
> In article<2d1fe5b7-af03-42a6-93c6- > >, says... >> >> On Sep 11, 5:28 pm, projectile vomit chick >> > wrote: >>> On Sep 11, 10:02 am, > wrote: >>> >>>> On 2011-09-11, > wrote: >>> >>>>> It appears that World Kitchen (which makes Pyrex ) has hired "Food >>>>> Network celebrity" Sandra Lee for a nationwide consumer education >>>>> campaign. The campaign aims to teach consumers how to safely use their >>>>> products so that the glass will not suddenly explode. >>> >>>>> http://pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=32 >>> >>>> Pretty sad when a mfr has to teach its customers how to use dangerous >>>> products rather than make them safer. >>> >>> Pyrex is not dangerous, you nitwit. All there is to Pyrex is don't >>> put it on a stove burner or change the temperature of it suddenly. >>> >>> Some people are such pussies. Everyone has to make everything "safer" >>> for them, because they can't grasp the concept of common sense. >>> >>>> How come in cars we gotta >>>> buckle up, buy kid seats, pay for incredibly expensive airbags, etc, >>>> yet Pyrex gets away with selling a MORE dangerous product!? What's >>>> next? Passenger seats in front of the grill and a youtube vid from >>>> Jeff Gordon telling us to drive into a concrete abutment? >>> >>>> If the insurance companies had to shell out more money, you can bet >>>> Pyrex would be making safer glass. I solved the whole problem by >>>> tossing all my exploding soda-lime crap and buying steel pans or >>>> stoneware. >>> >>> Yer a retard. >> >> Years ago I had a few Pyrex pans that I used to cook on my gas >> stove. >> I still have my Pyrex coffee pot. I read that the original Pyrex >> makers >> sold the company. The new owners wanted to save money so they >> changed the formular. Since them there's been lots of breakage. > > The formula changed long before the brand was sold. The "company" is > Corning Glass, they spun off their cookware operation as "World > Kitchen" in 1997, however they had gone to tempered soda-lime glass > instead of borosilicate long before that--according to the current > owners of the factory the change was made in the 1940s. And anyone who > has ever dropped a Bodum drinking glass will tell you that borosilicate > is not particularly durable. > > On my list of things to be afraid of "exploding pyrex" comes somewhere > behind "struck on the head by a meteorite". I am quite sure you and I both know the difference between Pyrex and Corelle. There still is a white glass line called Corelle but it is not Pyroceram, which started as glass but was partially crystallized and allowed putting a red hot dish into water without breaking. It could break if dropped on a hard surface. I don't make coffee that way any more but but, since the 60's, I have had my white coffee pot with blue cornflower decoration which was heated directly on the stove. Incidentally, the dishes were not suitable for use in a microwave since the blue metallic decoration tended to heat faster than the rest. Tho you can get away with a few minutes nuking, it is not a good idea. -- James Silverton, Potomac I'm *not* |
SLop discusses how to use Pyrex glassware safely
On Sep 11, 10:41*am, Ubiquitous > wrote:
> It appears that World Kitchen (which makes Pyrex™) has hired "Food > Network celebrity" Sandra Lee for a nationwide consumer education > campaign. The campaign aims to teach consumers how to safely use their > products so that the glass will not suddenly explode. > > http://pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=32 That's because what's called Pyrex nowadays isn't what Corning called Pyrex when they first made it. Real Pyrex (borosilicate glass) as used in laboratory glassware can be heated directly in a flame, and on an exposed-coil electric stovetop with just a thin wire spacer. I have a saucepan and skillet (both Corning Pyrex) that have been used over direct flame for over 50 years. No explosions. Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. |
SLop discusses how to use Pyrex glassware safely
Jerry Avins wrote:
> > That's because what's called Pyrex nowadays isn't what Corning called > Pyrex when they first made it. Real Pyrex (borosilicate glass) as used > in laboratory glassware can be heated directly in a flame, and on an > exposed-coil electric stovetop with just a thin wire spacer. I have a > saucepan and skillet (both Corning Pyrex) that have been used over > direct flame for over 50 years. No explosions. Just a lot of stuck food. |
SLop discusses how to use Pyrex glassware safely
On 09/11/2011 05:45 PM, Ron Capik wrote:
> Pyrex™ is not (and never has been) white glass. My understanding is that it's no longer borosilicate. |
SLop discusses how to use Pyrex glassware safely
In article >,
says... > > On 9/11/2011 9:05 PM, J. Clarke wrote: > > In article<2d1fe5b7-af03-42a6-93c6- > > >, says... > >> > >> On Sep 11, 5:28 pm, projectile vomit chick > >> > wrote: > >>> On Sep 11, 10:02 am, > wrote: > >>> > >>>> On 2011-09-11, > wrote: > >>> > >>>>> It appears that World Kitchen (which makes Pyrex ) has hired "Food > >>>>> Network celebrity" Sandra Lee for a nationwide consumer education > >>>>> campaign. The campaign aims to teach consumers how to safely use their > >>>>> products so that the glass will not suddenly explode. > >>> > >>>>> http://pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=32 > >>> > >>>> Pretty sad when a mfr has to teach its customers how to use dangerous > >>>> products rather than make them safer. > >>> > >>> Pyrex is not dangerous, you nitwit. All there is to Pyrex is don't > >>> put it on a stove burner or change the temperature of it suddenly. > >>> > >>> Some people are such pussies. Everyone has to make everything "safer" > >>> for them, because they can't grasp the concept of common sense. > >>> > >>>> How come in cars we gotta > >>>> buckle up, buy kid seats, pay for incredibly expensive airbags, etc, > >>>> yet Pyrex gets away with selling a MORE dangerous product!? What's > >>>> next? Passenger seats in front of the grill and a youtube vid from > >>>> Jeff Gordon telling us to drive into a concrete abutment? > >>> > >>>> If the insurance companies had to shell out more money, you can bet > >>>> Pyrex would be making safer glass. I solved the whole problem by > >>>> tossing all my exploding soda-lime crap and buying steel pans or > >>>> stoneware. > >>> > >>> Yer a retard. > >> > >> Years ago I had a few Pyrex pans that I used to cook on my gas > >> stove. > >> I still have my Pyrex coffee pot. I read that the original Pyrex > >> makers > >> sold the company. The new owners wanted to save money so they > >> changed the formular. Since them there's been lots of breakage. > > > > The formula changed long before the brand was sold. The "company" is > > Corning Glass, they spun off their cookware operation as "World > > Kitchen" in 1997, however they had gone to tempered soda-lime glass > > instead of borosilicate long before that--according to the current > > owners of the factory the change was made in the 1940s. And anyone who > > has ever dropped a Bodum drinking glass will tell you that borosilicate > > is not particularly durable. > > > > On my list of things to be afraid of "exploding pyrex" comes somewhere > > behind "struck on the head by a meteorite". > > I am quite sure you and I both know the difference between Pyrex and > Corelle. We weren't talking about Corelle so why are you bringing it into the discussion? > There still is a white glass line called Corelle but it is not > Pyroceram, which started as glass but was partially crystallized and > allowed putting a red hot dish into water without breaking. It could > break if dropped on a hard surface. That's nice but what does it have to do with Pyrex? > I don't make coffee that way any > more but but, since the 60's, I have had my white coffee pot with blue > cornflower decoration which was heated directly on the stove. > Incidentally, the dishes were not suitable for use in a microwave since > the blue metallic decoration tended to heat faster than the rest. Tho > you can get away with a few minutes nuking, it is not a good idea. Still don't see how your point is relevant to exploding Pyrex. |
SLop discusses how to use Pyrex glassware safely
On 9/12/2011 2:53 AM, fratermus wrote:
> On 09/11/2011 05:45 PM, Ron Capik wrote: > >> Pyrex™ is not (and never has been) white glass. > > My understanding is that it's no longer borosilicate. > Sadly that seems to be true. I did some checking since my first post and it seems they have been transitioning to tempered soda-lime glass for some time. Also, on reading up on the catastrophic failures it does sound like something has gone wrong in the tempering process or some such. I mostly worked with fused silica [quartz] in my lab so I had few worries about thermal stress. :-) == |
SLop discusses how to use Pyrex glassware safely
On Sep 11, 10:07*pm, "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote:
> > On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 21:05:30 -0400, "J. Clarke" > > > wrote: > > >> The formula changed long before the brand was sold. *The "company" is > >> Corning Glass, they spun off their cookware operation as "World > >> Kitchen" in 1997, however they had gone to tempered soda-lime glass > >> instead of borosilicate long before that--according to the current > >> owners of the factory the change was made in the 1940s. *And anyone who > >> has ever dropped a Bodum drinking glass will tell you that borosilicate > >> is not particularly durable. > > >> On my list of things to be afraid of "exploding pyrex" comes somewhere > >> behind "struck on the head by a meteorite". > > I did break a piece of Pyrex maybe a half dozen years ago. *It was my fault > in handling, adding a cool liquid to a hot dish. *As soon as the liquid hit > the dish, I knew it was just a dumb, thoughless, moment for me and it > cracked in half. * What is shown in the Sandra Lee video is just plain > common sense with any glass oven product. > > http://www.pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=30#TruthID30 > Is Borosilicate glass safer or better than soda lime glass? > > While both borosilicate and soda lime are appropriate compositions for glass > bakeware, heat-strengthened soda lime is more resistant to impact breakage - > the far more likely cause of consumer injury according to national emergency > room data. All glass, whether soda lime or borosilicate, can experience > thermal breakage if exposed to sudden or uneven temperature changes This past early summer I dropprd a Pyrex cover that I loved. I used it in the microwave on a plate of food. I felt so bad about that. All the glass covers now have metal on them. Lucille |
SLop discusses how to use Pyrex glassware safely
On Sep 11, 10:27*pm, James Silverton >
wrote: > On 9/11/2011 9:05 PM, J. Clarke wrote: > > > > > > > In article<2d1fe5b7-af03-42a6-93c6- > > >, says.... > > >> On Sep 11, 5:28 pm, projectile vomit chick > >> > *wrote: > >>> On Sep 11, 10:02 am, > *wrote: > > >>>> On 2011-09-11, > *wrote: > > >>>>> It appears that World Kitchen (which makes Pyrex ) has hired "Food > >>>>> Network celebrity" Sandra Lee for a nationwide consumer education > >>>>> campaign. The campaign aims to teach consumers how to safely use their > >>>>> products so that the glass will not suddenly explode. > > >>>>>http://pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=32 > > >>>> Pretty sad when a mfr has to teach its customers how to use dangerous > >>>> products rather than make them safer. > > >>> Pyrex is not dangerous, you nitwit. *All there is to Pyrex is don't > >>> put it on a stove burner or change the temperature of it suddenly. > > >>> Some people are such pussies. *Everyone has to make everything "safer" > >>> for them, because they can't grasp the concept of common sense. > > >>>> * How come in cars we gotta > >>>> buckle up, buy kid seats, pay for incredibly expensive airbags, etc, > >>>> yet Pyrex gets away with selling a MORE dangerous product!? *What's > >>>> next? *Passenger seats in front of the grill and a youtube vid from > >>>> Jeff Gordon telling us to drive into a concrete abutment? > > >>>> If the insurance companies had to shell out more money, you can bet > >>>> Pyrex would be making safer glass. *I solved the whole problem by > >>>> tossing all my exploding soda-lime crap and buying steel pans or > >>>> stoneware. > > >>> Yer a retard. > > >> Years ago I had a few Pyrex pans that I used to cook on my gas > >> stove. > >> I still have my Pyrex coffee pot. * I read that the original Pyrex > >> makers > >> sold the company. *The new owners wanted to save money so they > >> changed the formular. * Since them there's been lots of breakage. > > > The formula changed long before the brand was sold. *The "company" is > > Corning Glass, they spun off their cookware operation as "World > > Kitchen" in 1997, however they had gone to tempered soda-lime glass > > instead of borosilicate long before that--according to the current > > owners of the factory the change was made in the 1940s. *And anyone who > > has ever dropped a Bodum drinking glass will tell you that borosilicate > > is not particularly durable. > > > On my list of things to be afraid of "exploding pyrex" comes somewhere > > behind "struck on the head by a meteorite". > > I am quite sure you and I both know the difference between Pyrex and > Corelle. There still is a white glass line called Corelle but it is not > Pyroceram, which started as glass but was partially crystallized and > allowed putting a red hot dish into water without breaking. It could > break if dropped on a hard surface. *I don't make coffee that way any > more but but, since the 60's, I have had my white coffee pot with blue > cornflower decoration which was heated directly on the stove. > Incidentally, the dishes were not suitable for use in a microwave since > the blue metallic decoration tended to heat faster than the rest. Tho > you can get away with a few minutes nuking, it is not a good idea. > > -- > > James Silverton, Potomac > > I'm *not* - Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I still have a set of three small pans of Corning ware with that blue flower and has clear Pyrex covers to fit them. Lucille |
SLop discusses how to use Pyrex glassware safely
Lucille wrote:
>James Silverton wrote: >> J. Clarke wrote: >> > In article<2d1fe5b7-af03-42a6-93c6- >> > Lscha says... >> >> projectile vomit chick wrote: >> >>> notbob*wrote: >> >>>> Ubiquitous*wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> It appears that World Kitchen (which makes Pyrex ) has hired "Food >> >>>>> Network celebrity" Sandra Lee for a nationwide consumer education >> >>>>> campaign. The campaign aims to teach consumers how to safely use their >> >>>>> products so that the glass will not suddenly explode. >> >> >>>>>http://pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=32 >> >> >>>> Pretty sad when a mfr has to teach its customers how to use dangerous >> >>>> products rather than make them safer. >> >> >>> Pyrex is not dangerous, you nitwit. *All there is to Pyrex is don't >> >>> put it on a stove burner or change the temperature of it suddenly. >> >> >>> Some people are such pussies. *Everyone has to make everything "safer" >> >>> for them, because they can't grasp the concept of common sense. >> >> >>>> * How come in cars we gotta >> >>>> buckle up, buy kid seats, pay for incredibly expensive airbags, etc, >> >>>> yet Pyrex gets away with selling a MORE dangerous product!? *What's >> >>>> next? *Passenger seats in front of the grill and a youtube vid from >> >>>> Jeff Gordon telling us to drive into a concrete abutment? >> >> >>>> If the insurance companies had to shell out more money, you can bet >> >>>> Pyrex would be making safer glass. *I solved the whole problem by >> >>>> tossing all my exploding soda-lime crap and buying steel pans or >> >>>> stoneware. >> >> >>> Yer a retard. >> >> >> Years ago I had a few Pyrex pans that I used to cook on my gas >> >> stove. >> >> I still have my Pyrex coffee pot. * I read that the original Pyrex >> >> makers >> >> sold the company. *The new owners wanted to save money so they >> >> changed the formular. * Since them there's been lots of breakage. >> >> > The formula changed long before the brand was sold. *The "company" is >> > Corning Glass, they spun off their cookware operation as "World >> > Kitchen" in 1997, however they had gone to tempered soda-lime glass >> > instead of borosilicate long before that--according to the current >> > owners of the factory the change was made in the 1940s. *And anyone who >> > has ever dropped a Bodum drinking glass will tell you that borosilicate >> > is not particularly durable. >> >> > On my list of things to be afraid of "exploding pyrex" comes somewhere >> > behind "struck on the head by a meteorite". >> >> I am quite sure you and I both know the difference between Pyrex and >> Corelle. There still is a white glass line called Corelle but it is not >> Pyroceram, which started as glass but was partially crystallized and >> allowed putting a red hot dish into water without breaking. It could >> break if dropped on a hard surface. *I don't make coffee that way any >> more but but, since the 60's, I have had my white coffee pot with blue >> cornflower decoration which was heated directly on the stove. >> Incidentally, the dishes were not suitable for use in a microwave since >> the blue metallic decoration tended to heat faster than the rest. Tho >> you can get away with a few minutes nuking, it is not a good idea. >> >> I'm *not* > >I still have a set of three small pans of Corning ware with that >blue flower and has clear Pyrex covers to fit them. Me too. But I never cook/bake in glass, it's strictly for microwaving and fridge storage or used for serving. And I rarely use those glass lids for microwaving, I prefer plastic wrap... and I love big knobs but not on Corning lids, the larger pieces won't fit in my microwave, there's not enough headroom with those huge erectile knobs... occasionally to heat something and rather than dirty a new container to gain more headroom I'll place those lids upside down, but that can ruin my appetite because they're so much like inverted nipples. eek Ya know, inverted nipples are easily corrected by plastic surgery, do it! http://www.kolkermd.com/newyorkplast...plesurgery.htm |
SLop discusses how to use Pyrex glassware safely
On 9/12/2011 12:03 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> to gain more headroom I'll place those lids upside down, but that can > ruin my appetite because they're so much like inverted nipples. eek Ya > know, inverted nipples are easily corrected by plastic surgery, do it! > http://www.kolkermd.com/newyorkplast...plesurgery.htm I think you might have been weaned a bit early. George L |
SLop discusses how to use Pyrex glassware safely
On 9/11/2011 11:18 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2011-09-11, > wrote: > >> Too bad they just didn't call their ersatz pyrex "walglass" instead of >> buying the pyrex brand. That way it would be less confusing. > > Cuz you buy it everywhere else, too. > > nb That is why I thought "walglass" would be a good name. It isn't "walmartglass" but clearly conveys the low price whatever the cost walmart syndrome. |
SLop discusses how to use Pyrex glassware safely
On Sep 12, 11:37*am, Lucille > wrote:
> On Sep 11, 10:07*pm, "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 21:05:30 -0400, "J. Clarke" > > > > wrote: > > > >> The formula changed long before the brand was sold. *The "company" is > > >> Corning Glass, they spun off their cookware operation as "World > > >> Kitchen" in 1997, however they had gone to tempered soda-lime glass > > >> instead of borosilicate long before that--according to the current > > >> owners of the factory the change was made in the 1940s. *And anyone who > > >> has ever dropped a Bodum drinking glass will tell you that borosilicate > > >> is not particularly durable. > > > >> On my list of things to be afraid of "exploding pyrex" comes somewhere > > >> behind "struck on the head by a meteorite". > > > I did break a piece of Pyrex maybe a half dozen years ago. *It was my fault > > in handling, adding a cool liquid to a hot dish. *As soon as the liquid hit > > the dish, I knew it was just a dumb, thoughless, moment for me and it > > cracked in half. * What is shown in the Sandra Lee video is just plain > > common sense with any glass oven product. > > >http://www.pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=30#TruthID30 > > Is Borosilicate glass safer or better than soda lime glass? > > > While both borosilicate and soda lime are appropriate compositions for glass > > bakeware, heat-strengthened soda lime is more resistant to impact breakage - > > the far more likely cause of consumer injury according to national emergency > > room data. All glass, whether soda lime or borosilicate, can experience > > thermal breakage if exposed to sudden or uneven temperature changes > > This past early summer I dropprd a Pyrex cover that I loved. *I used > it in the > microwave on a plate of food. * * I felt so bad about that. *All the > glass covers > now have metal on them. Shop Salvation Army, Goodwill, and the like. Bring a rule or tape so you don't have to guess about the size. Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. |
SLop discusses how to use Pyrex glassware safely
On Sep 11, 11:59*pm, Mark Thorson > wrote:
> Jerry Avins wrote: > > > That's because what's called Pyrex nowadays isn't what Corning called > > Pyrex when they first made it. Real Pyrex (borosilicate glass) as used > > in laboratory glassware can be heated directly in a flame, and on an > > exposed-coil electric stovetop with just a thin wire spacer. I have a > > saucepan and skillet (both Corning Pyrex) that have been used over > > direct flame for over 50 years. No explosions. > > Just a lot of stuck food. I fry eggs with no problem. Same as cast iron. Jerry |
SLop discusses how to use Pyrex glassware safely
On Sep 12, 11:41*am, Lucille > wrote:
> On Sep 11, 10:27*pm, James Silverton > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/11/2011 9:05 PM, J. Clarke wrote: > > > > In article<2d1fe5b7-af03-42a6-93c6- > > > >, says.... > > > >> On Sep 11, 5:28 pm, projectile vomit chick > > >> > *wrote: > > >>> On Sep 11, 10:02 am, > *wrote: > > > >>>> On 2011-09-11, > *wrote: > > > >>>>> It appears that World Kitchen (which makes Pyrex ) has hired "Food > > >>>>> Network celebrity" Sandra Lee for a nationwide consumer education > > >>>>> campaign. The campaign aims to teach consumers how to safely use their > > >>>>> products so that the glass will not suddenly explode. > > > >>>>>http://pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=32 > > > >>>> Pretty sad when a mfr has to teach its customers how to use dangerous > > >>>> products rather than make them safer. > > > >>> Pyrex is not dangerous, you nitwit. *All there is to Pyrex is don't > > >>> put it on a stove burner or change the temperature of it suddenly. > > > >>> Some people are such pussies. *Everyone has to make everything "safer" > > >>> for them, because they can't grasp the concept of common sense. > > > >>>> * How come in cars we gotta > > >>>> buckle up, buy kid seats, pay for incredibly expensive airbags, etc, > > >>>> yet Pyrex gets away with selling a MORE dangerous product!? *What's > > >>>> next? *Passenger seats in front of the grill and a youtube vid from > > >>>> Jeff Gordon telling us to drive into a concrete abutment? > > > >>>> If the insurance companies had to shell out more money, you can bet > > >>>> Pyrex would be making safer glass. *I solved the whole problem by > > >>>> tossing all my exploding soda-lime crap and buying steel pans or > > >>>> stoneware. > > > >>> Yer a retard. > > > >> Years ago I had a few Pyrex pans that I used to cook on my gas > > >> stove. > > >> I still have my Pyrex coffee pot. * I read that the original Pyrex > > >> makers > > >> sold the company. *The new owners wanted to save money so they > > >> changed the formular. * Since them there's been lots of breakage. > > > > The formula changed long before the brand was sold. *The "company" is > > > Corning Glass, they spun off their cookware operation as "World > > > Kitchen" in 1997, however they had gone to tempered soda-lime glass > > > instead of borosilicate long before that--according to the current > > > owners of the factory the change was made in the 1940s. *And anyone who > > > has ever dropped a Bodum drinking glass will tell you that borosilicate > > > is not particularly durable. > > > > On my list of things to be afraid of "exploding pyrex" comes somewhere > > > behind "struck on the head by a meteorite". > > > I am quite sure you and I both know the difference between Pyrex and > > Corelle. There still is a white glass line called Corelle but it is not > > Pyroceram, which started as glass but was partially crystallized and > > allowed putting a red hot dish into water without breaking. It could > > break if dropped on a hard surface. *I don't make coffee that way any > > more but but, since the 60's, I have had my white coffee pot with blue > > cornflower decoration which was heated directly on the stove. > > Incidentally, the dishes were not suitable for use in a microwave since > > the blue metallic decoration tended to heat faster than the rest. Tho > > you can get away with a few minutes nuking, it is not a good idea. > > > -- > > > James Silverton, Potomac > > > I'm *not* - Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > I still have a set of three small pans of Corning ware with that > blue flower and has clear Pyrex covers to fit them. > > Lucille You remind me that I have some Cornflower stuff somewhere. I ought to look for it. Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. |
SLop discusses how to use Pyrex glassware safely
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 13:12:07 -0400, George >
wrote: > On 9/11/2011 11:18 AM, notbob wrote: > > On 2011-09-11, > wrote: > > > >> Too bad they just didn't call their ersatz pyrex "walglass" instead of > >> buying the pyrex brand. That way it would be less confusing. > > > > Cuz you buy it everywhere else, too. > > > > nb > > That is why I thought "walglass" would be a good name. It isn't > "walmartglass" but clearly conveys the low price whatever the cost > walmart syndrome. Don't worry, the rest of us understood the concept... and he thinks he's not argumentative. sheesh -- I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
SLop discusses how to use Pyrex glassware safely
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 09:48:15 -0400, Ron Capik > wrote:
>On 9/12/2011 2:53 AM, fratermus wrote: >> On 09/11/2011 05:45 PM, Ron Capik wrote: >> >>> Pyrex™ is not (and never has been) white glass. >> >> My understanding is that it's no longer borosilicate. >> >Sadly that seems to be true. I did some checking since >my first post and it seems they have been transitioning >to tempered soda-lime glass for some time. Yeah. That's what all the bitching is about. |
SLop discusses how to use Pyrex glassware safely
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 11:04:00 -0700 (PDT), Jerry Avins >
wrote: > Shop Salvation Army, Goodwill, and the like. Bring a rule or tape so > you don't have to guess about the size. I have enough lids that are missing their original pot & pans that I can tell you to measure to the nth because I can eyeball petty closely, but even 1/4 inch makes a difference. -- I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
SLop discusses how to use Pyrex glassware safely
"Ron Capik" > wrote in message ... > On 9/12/2011 2:53 AM, fratermus wrote: >> On 09/11/2011 05:45 PM, Ron Capik wrote: >> >>> Pyrex™ is not (and never has been) white glass. >> >> My understanding is that it's no longer borosilicate. >> > Sadly that seems to be true. I did some checking since > my first post and it seems they have been transitioning > to tempered soda-lime glass for some time. > > Also, on reading up on the catastrophic failures it does > sound like something has gone wrong in the tempering > process or some such. > > I mostly worked with fused silica [quartz] in my lab > so I had few worries about thermal stress. :-) > > == It has not been for the last 50+ years. Why the fuss now? Must have been a competitor starting a bashing campaign. |
SLop discusses how to use Pyrex glassware safely
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SLop discusses how to use Pyrex glassware safely
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:16:39 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski"
> wrote: > It has not been for the last 50+ years. Why the fuss now? Must have been a > competitor starting a bashing campaign. It has been mentioned several times here by various well known posters. Put me in the "so what else is new" category. Times change, products cheapen. -- I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
SLop discusses how to use Pyrex glassware safely
"sf" > wrote in message ... > On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:16:39 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski" > > wrote: > >> It has not been for the last 50+ years. Why the fuss now? Must have >> been a >> competitor starting a bashing campaign. > > It has been mentioned several times here by various well known > posters. Put me in the "so what else is new" category. Times change, > products cheapen. > > -- > I love cooking with wine. > Sometimes I even put it in the food. Hmmm, I wonder if it has been cheapened, such as thinner walls. I've not bought any in many years so I don't have the newer stuff to compare, but I'll stop and look if I think of it. |
SLop discusses how to use Pyrex glassware safely
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 00:00:00 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski"
> wrote: > > "sf" > wrote in message > ... > > On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:16:39 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski" > > > wrote: > > > >> It has not been for the last 50+ years. Why the fuss now? Must have > >> been a > >> competitor starting a bashing campaign. > > > > It has been mentioned several times here by various well known > > posters. Put me in the "so what else is new" category. Times change, > > products cheapen. > > > > Hmmm, I wonder if it has been cheapened, such as thinner walls. I've not > bought any in many years so I don't have the newer stuff to compare, but > I'll stop and look if I think of it. No idea if it has thinner walls or if that even matters. None of the Pyrex I've purchased in my lifetime as an adult (which is well after the reformulation) has ever broken; so here's what I really think: People who complain about Pyrex breaking did stupid things and then tried to act as if it wasn't their fault. Nuff said 'bout dat. I have no sympathy for them. -- I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
SLop discusses how to use Pyrex glassware safely
On 2011-09-13, sf > wrote:
> No idea if it has thinner walls or if that even matters. It doesn't. Borosilicate lab glass 1/3rd the thickness of bakeware can safely go directly from a burner to cold water without breaking. nb |
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