Well, that was interesting, if not an altogether satifactory effort.

1 frozen banana
1 lg nectarine
1 huge mango
1 C frzn blackberries
1 slice fresh ginger, minced
2 t coconut cream
2 oz coconut liquid
2 ice cubes

Things I learned:
a) don't use coconut cream in cold smoothie.
b) vita-mix is useless for whole ice cubes.
c) " " reversing switch is a great feature.
d) " " sounds like a thrashing machine.
e) even mincing fresh ginger does not eliminate the fibers.

Otherwise, it came out awesome! Great flavor, milkshake thick. I
hadda take out the now-walnut-shaped/sized ice cubes and sub 2 oz of
cold water. The frozen berries/banana was enough.

I'm still not sold on the whole smoothie thing. While I love the
combined flavors, I'm still primarily a chewer. I like to chew my
food thoroughly and digest it properly. With a smoothie, you jes
swallow and miss a couple important digestion steps, namely the
initial breakdown and mixing with saliva and related enzymes. This
necessitate I hold the smoothie in my mouth and roll it around to mix
in this important digestion step, not a real problem when I have
blackberry seeds to crush between my teeth (I love that!). But, I
forsee no such pleasure with an all veggie smoothie. We'll see.

nb

"notbob" > wrote in message
...
> Well, that was interesting, if not an altogether satifactory effort.
>
> 1 frozen banana
> 1 lg nectarine
> 1 huge mango
> 1 C frzn blackberries
> 1 slice fresh ginger, minced
> 2 t coconut cream
> 2 oz coconut liquid
> 2 ice cubes
>
> Things I learned:
> a) don't use coconut cream in cold smoothie.
> b) vita-mix is useless for whole ice cubes.
> c) " " reversing switch is a great feature.
> d) " " sounds like a thrashing machine.
> e) even mincing fresh ginger does not eliminate the fibers.
>
> Otherwise, it came out awesome! Great flavor, milkshake thick. I
> hadda take out the now-walnut-shaped/sized ice cubes and sub 2 oz of
> cold water. The frozen berries/banana was enough.
>
> I'm still not sold on the whole smoothie thing. While I love the
> combined flavors, I'm still primarily a chewer. I like to chew my
> food thoroughly and digest it properly. With a smoothie, you jes
> swallow and miss a couple important digestion steps, namely the
> initial breakdown and mixing with saliva and related enzymes. This
> necessitate I hold the smoothie in my mouth and roll it around to mix
> in this important digestion step, not a real problem when I have
> blackberry seeds to crush between my teeth (I love that!). But, I
> forsee no such pleasure with an all veggie smoothie. We'll see.
>
>

Do you have a solution to the ginger fibers?

On 2011-09-11, Pico Rico > wrote:

> Do you have a solution to the ginger fibers?

After picking the 4th-5th fiber out of my teeth, suspect they may not
be from the ginger, but from the blackberries, which were frozen fresh
last Winter. Whatever they were, they were as annoying as..... well,
never mind.

nb

On Sep 11, 7:47*am, notbob > wrote:


Two things.

1. I don't put ice in my smoothies so I don't have that problem. I
have made pina colada's, but I used
crushed ice from a bag so I haven't had a problem with that. I think
the older VitaMix may not have the "oomph"
the newer ones do, could be wrong.

2. The combination of fruits and ginger is a bit iffy for me. I
think you'll find that fruit and yogurt makes
a tastier smoothie. Use the ginger in a veggie smoothie with
vegetables it will compliment. If I'm making
a smoothie for breakfast, it's usually frozen banana, blueberries,
strawberries, yogurt and whey protein.

If you like to chew something.....trust me I'm the same way, that's
why I could never do a liquid diet.... do what I do and use the
smoothie as the main part of your meal and have something like a flax
muffin to go along with it.

Don't expect the green smoothie to be any better in the chew
department. And don't expect a really sweet smoothie from the
greens. The fruit simply masks the 'green' part and the flavor is
fresher and more bright.

For your first green smoothie try this.
Bottom layer: one chopped ripe pear ( take of the stem and seeds) if
you don't have a pear use something sweet like mango.
Second Layer: couple big fistfuls of spinach
Third Layer: 5 or 6 leaves of kale or chard or whatever other green
you like
Top Layer: one chopped apple (take out the seeds)

I think you will be surprised and please at how refreshing it is and
how much your body will like it.

On Sep 11, 8:16*am, ImStillMags > wrote:

BTW Google around about green smoothies.

Here's an example:
http://www.squidoo.com/benefits-of-green-smoothies

There are tons of recipes.

On 2011-09-11, ImStillMags > wrote:
> strawberries, yogurt and whey protein.

No dairy. I'll be trying different brands of almond, soy, etc, milk.
I'll even try making my own horchata, again. Love that stuff.

> For your first green smoothie try this.
> Bottom layer: one chopped ripe pear ( take of the stem and seeds) if
> you don't have a pear use something sweet like mango.
> Second Layer: couple big fistfuls of spinach
> Third Layer: 5 or 6 leaves of kale or chard or whatever other green
> you like
> Top Layer: one chopped apple (take out the seeds)

I've got all that. I'll give it a shot, but gonna hafta wait. I
gotta use up the meat I have. I'll probably make a curry fish stew
tonight, with cod and coconut milk. Serve with steamed broccoli
topped with fresh grated pecorino I also hafta get rid of.

I'm really gonna give this vegan thing a shot. Been eating the heck
outta some semi-homemade tabouli I made a batch of. I say
semi-homemade cuz I started with a box of Near East tabouli mix, it
being the only real pre-cooked bulgur I've been able to find. So, I
made the box stuff, then read the ingredients of the spice mix, then
added the exact same things, only fresh. Namely, fresh parsley, diced
tomatoes, fresh lemon, and a healthy squeeze of honey. YUM!!

nb

On Sep 11, 8:34*am, notbob > wrote:
> On 2011-09-11, ImStillMags > wrote:
>
> > strawberries, yogurt and whey protein.
>
> No dairy. *I'll be trying different brands of almond, soy, etc, milk.
> I'll even try making my own horchata, again. *Love that stuff. * *
>
> > For your first green smoothie try this.
> > Bottom layer: *one chopped ripe pear ( take of the stem and seeds) if
> > you don't have a pear use something sweet like mango.
> > Second Layer: *couple big fistfuls of spinach
> > Third Layer: * 5 or 6 leaves of kale or chard or whatever other green
> > you like
> > Top Layer: *one chopped apple (take out the seeds)
>
> I've got all that. *I'll give it a shot, but gonna hafta wait. *I
> gotta use up the meat I have. *I'll probably make a curry fish stew
> tonight, with cod and coconut milk. *Serve with steamed broccoli
> topped with fresh grated pecorino I also hafta get rid of.
>
> I'm really gonna give this vegan thing a shot. *Been eating the heck
> outta some semi-homemade tabouli I made a batch of. *I say
> semi-homemade cuz I started with a box of Near East tabouli mix, it
> being the only real pre-cooked bulgur I've been able to find. *So, I
> made the box stuff, then read the ingredients of the spice mix, then
> added the exact same things, only fresh. *Namely, fresh parsley, diced
> tomatoes, fresh lemon, and a healthy squeeze of honey. *YUM!!
>
> nb *

I don't eat vegan. I eat more clean with fresh vegetables, lean
proteins, little or not grains, no wheat. I use green smoothies to
get more greens into my system and they are very cleansing.
You don't have to use a green smoothie as a meal you know, you can use
it as a side dish or beverage with a meal and in between meals as a
snack to help cleanse your system and detoxify it. I take them to
work because they are easily portable and I can make up a blender full
and portion it out for three days worth of lunches. I usually have
something with my green smoothie for the chew factor, like cold
chicken, almonds, or cheese, etc.


Here, watch this video. Look at this kid.
http://www.vitamix.com/household/Hea...n_smoothie.asp

I urge you to do a bit more reading about green smoothies if you are
really going vegan....and I urge you to
test yourself for any kinds of sensitivity to grains...just sayin'.

On 09/11/2011 08:34 AM, notbob wrote:

> I'm really gonna give this vegan thing a shot. Been eating the heck
> outta some semi-homemade tabouli I made a batch of. I say
> semi-homemade cuz I started with a box of Near East tabouli mix, it
> being the only real pre-cooked bulgur I've been able to find. So, I
> made the box stuff, then read the ingredients of the spice mix, then
> added the exact same things, only fresh. Namely, fresh parsley, diced
> tomatoes, fresh lemon, and a healthy squeeze of honey. YUM!!

Try adding minced fresh garlic and some mint next time. I've never tried
adding honey, but might.

(Honey's not vegan, but that's an argument for a different list full of
vegetarians. It's historically the biggest flame war on vegetarian
lists, right up there with putting yogurt in hummus or boiling your ribs.)

Serene
--
http://www.momfoodproject.com

On 2011-09-11, Serene Vannoy > wrote:

> (Honey's not vegan, but that's an argument for a different list full of
> vegetarians. It's historically the biggest flame war on vegetarian
> lists, right up there with putting yogurt in hummus or boiling your ribs.)

heh heh.... I can imagine.

I don't intend on going crazy/fanatic/zealot vegan, jes get the meat
and dairy out of my diet. Wheat bothers me not one iota, nor sugar or
coffee or a dozen other things fanatic vegans go off the deep end
over. I may not even stick with it, but I'd like to see what 3 mos
(my next blood letting) of no meat/dairy will get me. If nothing, I'll
probably return to lean meat in moderation, like chinese food where
they jes use bits in a whole dish or an occasional fresh caught
trout.

nb

On 2011-09-11, ImStillMags > wrote:

> get more greens into my system and they are very cleansing.

> snack to help cleanse your system and detoxify it.

Now see, I don't buy into that crazy "cleansing" crap! There's
nothing "toxic" about food and meat doesn't remain lodged in your
colon for 20 yrs and all that happy horsecrap. That's all total
bullshit pushed by health food whackos trying to make a buck off the
rubes. I'm not even thoroughly convinced eliminating meat from my
diet is of any great benefit, but I'd like to try it to see how it
effects my high, but not insanely high, cholestrol levels. Jes an
experiment. If I lose some weight, that would be a nice bonus. If it
does me little or no good, I'll happily return to gnawing pork ribs
and snarfing pizza with a vengeance.

As for that whole wheat thing, that's another load of bullocks.
Millions of women suddenly convinced they're deathly allegic to wheat
and their plumbing is gonna drop out if they don't stop eating
ANYTHING with a single molecule of gluten in it. Puh-leeze!! You
wanna quit eating all gluten and munch amaranth muffins, knock yerself
out. I'm gonna make me some sugar saturated cinnamon rolls made with
0 transfat margarine, if that'll work.

nb

On 09/11/2011 09:31 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2011-09-11, Serene > wrote:
>
>> (Honey's not vegan, but that's an argument for a different list full of
>> vegetarians. It's historically the biggest flame war on vegetarian
>> lists, right up there with putting yogurt in hummus or boiling your ribs.)
>
> heh heh.... I can imagine.
>
> I don't intend on going crazy/fanatic/zealot vegan, jes get the meat
> and dairy out of my diet. Wheat bothers me not one iota, nor sugar or
> coffee or a dozen other things fanatic vegans go off the deep end
> over. I may not even stick with it, but I'd like to see what 3 mos
> (my next blood letting) of no meat/dairy will get me. If nothing, I'll
> probably return to lean meat in moderation, like chinese food where
> they jes use bits in a whole dish or an occasional fresh caught
> trout.

Yeah, that's where we tend to hover around here. Left to my own devices,
I leave the meat and dairy out, and then when they start whimpering, I
fix a stir-fry or something and put a few slivers of meat in it. ;-)

Serene (exaggerating; you do not even want to know how huge my last pork
roast was around here)

--
http://www.momfoodproject.com

On 2011-09-11, Serene Vannoy > wrote:

> Serene (exaggerating; you do not even want to know how huge my last pork
> roast was around here)

Oh man! I can relate. I gotta 5 lb'er in the freezer and I do make
some mean carnitas. That sucker is not gonna be sacrificed for the
cause. No sir! Any future dietary efforts will hafta be measured
post pork.

nb

On 09/11/2011 10:02 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2011-09-11, > wrote:
>
>> get more greens into my system and they are very cleansing.
>
>> snack to help cleanse your system and detoxify it.
>
> Now see, I don't buy into that crazy "cleansing" crap! There's
> nothing "toxic" about food and meat doesn't remain lodged in your
> colon for 20 yrs and all that happy horsecrap.

True. That's not to say some people don't feel better on lighter foods,
but the detox engine is a profit-making engine.

Serene
--
http://www.momfoodproject.com

On 11/09/2011 1:02 PM, notbob wrote:

> As for that whole wheat thing, that's another load of bullocks.
> Millions of women suddenly convinced they're deathly allegic to wheat
> and their plumbing is gonna drop out if they don't stop eating
> ANYTHING with a single molecule of gluten in it. Puh-leeze!! You
> wanna quit eating all gluten and munch amaranth muffins, knock yerself
> out. I'm gonna make me some sugar saturated cinnamon rolls made with
> 0 transfat margarine, if that'll work.


That is not my understanding of the benefits of eating whole wheat flour
products. It has a lot more nutritional value that white flour and the
bran helps keep the digestive system operating properly. It is most
definitely part of a heart healthy diet.

On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:01:24 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 11/09/2011 1:02 PM, notbob wrote:
>
>> As for that whole wheat thing, that's another load of bullocks.
>> Millions of women suddenly convinced they're deathly allegic to wheat
>> and their plumbing is gonna drop out if they don't stop eating
>> ANYTHING with a single molecule of gluten in it. Puh-leeze!! You
>> wanna quit eating all gluten and munch amaranth muffins, knock yerself
>> out. I'm gonna make me some sugar saturated cinnamon rolls made with
>> 0 transfat margarine, if that'll work.
>
>
>That is not my understanding of the benefits of eating whole wheat flour
>products. It has a lot more nutritional value that white flour and the
>bran helps keep the digestive system operating properly. It is most
>definitely part of a heart healthy diet.

And I think there is just as much gluten in the whole wheat version of
flour.

And I wouldn't knock amaranth [or quinoa] until you've tried it. I
like the taste & texture of both-- the nutritional kick is a bonus.

Jim

On 11/09/2011 2:15 PM, Jim Elbrecht wrote:

>>
>> That is not my understanding of the benefits of eating whole wheat flour
>> products. It has a lot more nutritional value that white flour and the
>> bran helps keep the digestive system operating properly. It is most
>> definitely part of a heart healthy diet.
>
> And I think there is just as much gluten in the whole wheat version of
> flour.
>
> And I wouldn't knock amaranth [or quinoa] until you've tried it. I
> like the taste& texture of both-- the nutritional kick is a bonus.


I didn't knock Quinoa. AAMOF, it is on my list of things to try. My
sister in law eats it. She suffers from colitis and it is a safe food
for her to eat.

Dave Smith > wrote:

>On 11/09/2011 2:15 PM, Jim Elbrecht wrote:
>
>>>
>>> That is not my understanding of the benefits of eating whole wheat flour
>>> products. It has a lot more nutritional value that white flour and the
>>> bran helps keep the digestive system operating properly. It is most
>>> definitely part of a heart healthy diet.
>>
>> And I think there is just as much gluten in the whole wheat version of
>> flour.
>>
>> And I wouldn't knock amaranth [or quinoa] until you've tried it. I
>> like the taste& texture of both-- the nutritional kick is a bonus.
>
>
>I didn't knock Quinoa. AAMOF, it is on my list of things to try. My
>sister in law eats it. She suffers from colitis and it is a safe food
>for her to eat.
>

I was referring to notbob's comment " You wanna quit eating all
gluten and munch amaranth muffins, knock yerself out. "

Nobody in this house has any problems with gluten, as far as we know,
but we go through a couple pounds of quinoa/amaranth every month. I
don't see much difference between the two- but reach for the quinoa at
the healthfood store because it is packaged by them and cheaper than
the amaranth.

We like the flavor and the crunch. I'll add it to a dish that I'm
trying to thicken up a bit. The flavor is mild and it seems to go
with nearly anything. On its own, softened up with a little stock it
is a decent savory porridge.

The 15% protein and complete amino acids to utilize it are just a
bonus. Not to mention the iron, fiber, and whatever else is in
there.

Jim