sf wrote:

>>> BTW I saw a picture of a 3 kg Nutella jar on the internet. Oh one
>>> day it shall be mine!

>> Like this?
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/kremser-schmid/953469500/

> That looks like real glass.

It is
In Italy you find those jars in highway gast-stations (Autogrill, Motta,
Pavesi, Spizzico...) or in those supermarkets which specialize in supersized
goods, such as 3kg mayonnaise jars or alike.
--
ViLco
Let the liquor do the thinking

"ViLco" > wrote in message
...
> sf wrote:
>
>>>> BTW I saw a picture of a 3 kg Nutella jar on the internet. Oh one
>>>> day it shall be mine!
>
>>> Like this?
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/kremser-schmid/953469500/
>
>> That looks like real glass.
>
> It is
> In Italy you find those jars in highway gast-stations (Autogrill, Motta,
> Pavesi, Spizzico...) or in those supermarkets which specialize in
> supersized goods, such as 3kg mayonnaise jars or alike.

Costco sells a two pack of huge jars which I will never buy again. Much as
she used to like it, daughter never made her way through one jar before it
expired.

On Sep 22, 8:38*am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> "ViLco" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > sf wrote:
>
> >>>> BTW I saw a picture of a 3 kg Nutella jar on the internet. Oh one
> >>>> day it shall be mine!
>
> >>> Like this?
> >>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/kremser-schmid/953469500/
>
> >> That looks like real glass.
>
> > It is
> > In Italy you find those jars in highway gast-stations (Autogrill, Motta,
> > Pavesi, Spizzico...) or in those supermarkets which specialize in
> > supersized goods, such as 3kg mayonnaise jars or alike.
>
> Costco sells a two pack of huge jars which I will never buy again. *Much as
> she used to like it, daughter never made her way through one jar before it
> expired.

It "expired"? Was it bad or rotten? Or was it just past the date of
best sale on the label?

John Kuthe...

On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:06:30 +0200, "ViLco" > wrote:

> sf wrote:
>
> >>> BTW I saw a picture of a 3 kg Nutella jar on the internet. Oh one
> >>> day it shall be mine!
>
> >> Like this?
> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/kremser-schmid/953469500/
>
> > That looks like real glass.
>
> It is
> In Italy you find those jars in highway gast-stations (Autogrill, Motta,
> Pavesi, Spizzico...) or in those supermarkets which specialize in supersized
> goods, such as 3kg mayonnaise jars or alike.

Too bad getting those things home is a big deal these days. :/

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 07:22:07 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> wrote:

> It "expired"? Was it bad or rotten? Or was it just past the date of
> best sale on the label?

Julie doesn't like it, so it got tossed.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:37:33 GMT, (Pinstripe
Sniper) wrote:

> We must strive harder and
> ultimately prove ourselves worthy of all that is true and Nutella.
> <big Nutella eating grin>

laugh!

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 18:58:02 GMT, (Pinstripe
Sniper) wrote:

> Yes, at first I thought "geez, no way you'd get this through airport
> security" but then I thought maybe EU airport security isn't as
> crazy/mickey raton and you can check that in your luggage?
>
> PsS

I thought about the luggage - but who uses hard sided suitcases
anymore? It would require purchasing one just for the Nutella, so I'd
probably ship it home and hope it gets there.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

sf wrote:

> I thought about the luggage - but who uses hard sided suitcases
> anymore?

I do, for one. My huge twenty-year-old hard-sided Samsonite has traversed
hundreds of thousands of miles and still protects my belongings perfectly.
What fault do you find with hard-sided suitcases?

Bob

On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 18:38:40 -0700, "Bob Terwilliger"
> wrote:

> sf wrote:
>
> > I thought about the luggage - but who uses hard sided suitcases
> > anymore?
>
> I do, for one. My huge twenty-year-old hard-sided Samsonite has traversed
> hundreds of thousands of miles and still protects my belongings perfectly.
> What fault do you find with hard-sided suitcases?
>
Weight.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On 9/22/2011 7:38 PM, Bob Terwilliger wrote:
> sf wrote:
>
>> I thought about the luggage - but who uses hard sided suitcases
>> anymore?
>
> I do, for one. My huge twenty-year-old hard-sided Samsonite has traversed
> hundreds of thousands of miles and still protects my belongings perfectly.
> What fault do you find with hard-sided suitcases?
>
> Bob
>
>


I'm not the OP, but:
--they are too heavy
--they don't expand to fit all the good stuff you buy on a trip.

gloria p

"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in message
b.com...
> sf wrote:
>
>> I thought about the luggage - but who uses hard sided suitcases
>> anymore?
>
> I do, for one. My huge twenty-year-old hard-sided Samsonite has traversed
> hundreds of thousands of miles and still protects my belongings perfectly.
> What fault do you find with hard-sided suitcases?

I should think they would hold up better for flying. But if you are just
taking car trips they would be too heavy and cumbersome to lug around.

I got my first set of soft sided luggage when I was 12. So that would be 40
years ago. I used those for many years. Then I bought a really nice set of
faux leather. They served me well for many years and held up well for
flying. But I soon realized how heavy they were to have to lug around for
car trips. My husband has that luggage now. It's still in good shape.
Just not for me. Now I have an assortment of lightweight bags, some of
which I got used on Ebay. Mostly I just go on overnight or weekend things
now so need various sizes of bags.

I have noticed that the trend for many road trippers is not to use luggage
at all but those large lidded plastic boxes. Not really sure why. Less
expensive perhaps? But they take up sooo much room in the back of the van.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 18:38:40 -0700, Bob Terwilliger wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>>
>>> I thought about the luggage - but who uses hard sided suitcases
>>> anymore?
>>
>> I do, for one. My huge twenty-year-old hard-sided Samsonite has traversed
>> hundreds of thousands of miles and still protects my belongings
>> perfectly.
>> What fault do you find with hard-sided suitcases?
>
> Can you cook in it?

That reminds me. When my brother was in high school or perhaps just out of
it, he and some friends took a trip to a small, fancy hotel where they got a
suite with a kitchen in it. They decided to pack some pots and pans for use
in the kitchen. They were using an old hard sided suitcase that I had
played with as a kid. I think it was made of some sort of like...pressed
cardboard that had been glazed or something. It was really weird. I think
it had belonged to my grandpa. The corners had something more sturdy on
them. Leather? Metal? I can't remember now. It was covered with stickers
from places it had been. But by the time my brother was using it, it had
seen better days and the latch didn't want to stay closed. No problem! He
just put a belt around it.

So into the hotel they trudged with the badly rigged suitcase. They had to
go up the stairs with the case and as luck would have it the belt fell off,
the latch came open and the pots and pans went clanging down the stairs.

On 2011-09-23, gloria.p > wrote:

> I'm not the OP, but:
> --they are too heavy
> --they don't expand to fit all the good stuff you buy on a trip.

I inherited a set of classic old hard body Samsonite luggage, the biggy
being the first to sport itty-bitty wheels and a barely handle. I
forgot who, but I recall someone telling me not to feel "uncool" (like I
care) cuz softside luggage (all the rage) was becoming the current target of
choice for dirtbag luggage workers with SHARP cutting implements.

nb

On 9/22/2011 10:21 PM, gloria.p wrote:
> On 9/22/2011 7:38 PM, Bob Terwilliger wrote:
>> sf wrote:
>>
>>> I thought about the luggage - but who uses hard sided suitcases
>>> anymore?
>>
>> I do, for one. My huge twenty-year-old hard-sided Samsonite has traversed
>> hundreds of thousands of miles and still protects my belongings
>> perfectly.
>> What fault do you find with hard-sided suitcases?

> I'm not the OP, but:
> --they are too heavy
> --they don't expand to fit all the good stuff you buy on a trip.

Exactly! And the wheels on the newer stuff are so much better,
they go in any direction, such an improvement.

nancy

On 22/09/2011 3:19 PM, sf wrote:

> I thought about the luggage - but who uses hard sided suitcases
> anymore? It would require purchasing one just for the Nutella, so I'd
> probably ship it home and hope it gets there.

I usually use a garment bag when I travel. I can put my shirts and good
pants on hangers. When I check into a hotel I can simply hang up the
whole works. There are pockets for socks, underwear etc.

On 9/22/2011 8:38 PM, Bob Terwilliger wrote:
> sf wrote:
>
>> I thought about the luggage - but who uses hard sided suitcases
>> anymore?
>
> I do, for one. My huge twenty-year-old hard-sided Samsonite has traversed
> hundreds of thousands of miles and still protects my belongings perfectly.
> What fault do you find with hard-sided suitcases?

Those hard-sided Samsonite suitcases are well worth their weight and
more! Remember Samsonite's commercial many, many years ago where one of
their hard-shelled suitcases was dropped out of an airplane - or
something like that?

Heh, there was a time my family traveled south by car at Christmas time
with some suitcases lashed on the top of the vehicle, and mine was that
hard-shelled Samsonite. Right in the middle of Birmingham, Alabama
driving I-65 - that suitcase sailed off the top into the middle of
roadway (lashings failed?) - talk about scary!!!!! WHEW - thankfully
traffic was atypically light and no one was hurt nor was any vehicle -
not even the suitcase, except a few scrape marks and the contents
remained intact. Don't ever try that with a soft-sided suitcase of any
sorts!

Sky

--

Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer!
Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice!!

On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 22:47:04 -0500, Sky >
wrote:

> Heh, there was a time my family traveled south by car at Christmas time
> with some suitcases lashed on the top of the vehicle, and mine was that
> hard-shelled Samsonite. Right in the middle of Birmingham, Alabama
> driving I-65 - that suitcase sailed off the top into the middle of
> roadway (lashings failed?) - talk about scary!!!!! WHEW - thankfully
> traffic was atypically light and no one was hurt nor was any vehicle -
> not even the suitcase, except a few scrape marks and the contents
> remained intact. Don't ever try that with a soft-sided suitcase of any
> sorts!

When we travel, it's either carry on luggage or it goes in the trunk
of the car - depending on mode of travel.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Sky wrote:

> Those hard-sided Samsonite suitcases are well worth their weight and more!
> Remember Samsonite's commercial many, many years ago where one of their
> hard-shelled suitcases was dropped out of an airplane - or something like
> that?

I remember an old Samsonite commercial where a gorilla beat the hell out of
a suitcase, but the suitcase emerged unscathed.

Bob

sf wrote:

>> What fault do you find with hard-sided suitcases?
>>
> Weight.

OK, fair enough. Being a big burly guy, that's not a concern for me, but I
can see it being a valid concern for you (and Pussy, the limp-wristed
cast-iron hater).

Bob

On 9/23/2011 12:25 AM, Bob Terwilliger wrote:
> Sky wrote:
>
>> Those hard-sided Samsonite suitcases are well worth their weight and more!
>> Remember Samsonite's commercial many, many years ago where one of their
>> hard-shelled suitcases was dropped out of an airplane - or something like
>> that?
>
> I remember an old Samsonite commercial where a gorilla beat the hell out of
> a suitcase, but the suitcase emerged unscathed.

Yes, I remember that commercial! Samsonite is akin to a Timex & more!
:> It'll take a lick'en and then some!

Sky

--

Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer!
Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice!!

On 9/23/2011 1:26 AM, Bob Terwilliger wrote:
> sf wrote:
>
>>> What fault do you find with hard-sided suitcases?
>>>
>> Weight.
>
> OK, fair enough. Being a big burly guy, that's not a concern for me, but I
> can see it being a valid concern for you

Aside from the effort of dealing with them, it's pretty
expensive to go over the weight limit when you're flying.
I don't want a good portion of my luggage weight to be the
very thing that holds my stuff.

If I was carrying around expensive breakable toys of some
sort, like ... telescopes ... maybe I'd get a hard sided
bag for that. My clothing, shoes, shampoo don't suffer in
soft sided luggage and the stuff is pretty darned tough.

To each his own, obviously.

nancy

Nancy wrote:

>>>> What fault do you find with hard-sided suitcases?
>>>>
>>> Weight.
>>
>> OK, fair enough. Being a big burly guy, that's not a concern for me, but
>> I
>> can see it being a valid concern for you
>
> Aside from the effort of dealing with them, it's pretty
> expensive to go over the weight limit when you're flying.
> I don't want a good portion of my luggage weight to be the
> very thing that holds my stuff.
>
> If I was carrying around expensive breakable toys of some
> sort, like ... telescopes ... maybe I'd get a hard sided
> bag for that. My clothing, shoes, shampoo don't suffer in
> soft sided luggage and the stuff is pretty darned tough.
>
> To each his own, obviously.

When we visit Lin's relatives, we often bring along bottles of wine for
them, because it costs a lot less and tastes a lot better than the wines
which are readily available where they live. It's a minor gesture, but a
greatly appreciated one.

When I deploy to war zones for months at a time, I am allowed to charge
excess baggage fees to my company -- which is only fair, because I'm also
required to carry about ninety pounds of chemical warfare protective gear.

For personal travel on commercial airlines, I'm pretty good at hitting
*just* the right weight when packing, and I try to deliberately underpack so
that I'll have room in the suitcase for items I bring back from my trips.

Bob

On 9/23/2011 7:36 AM, Bob Terwilliger wrote:
> Nancy wrote:

>> If I was carrying around expensive breakable toys of some
>> sort, like ... telescopes ... maybe I'd get a hard sided
>> bag for that. My clothing, shoes, shampoo don't suffer in
>> soft sided luggage and the stuff is pretty darned tough.
>>
>> To each his own, obviously.
>
> When we visit Lin's relatives, we often bring along bottles of wine for
> them, because it costs a lot less and tastes a lot better than the wines
> which are readily available where they live. It's a minor gesture, but a
> greatly appreciated one.

Yeah, I wouldn't want wine bottles breaking in my luggage.

> When I deploy to war zones for months at a time, I am allowed to charge
> excess baggage fees to my company -- which is only fair, because I'm also
> required to carry about ninety pounds of chemical warfare protective gear.

Ha, yeah, if someone else is paying the freight and they make you
bring a lot of stuff, I wouldn't worry about the heft of my bags,
either.

> For personal travel on commercial airlines, I'm pretty good at hitting
> *just* the right weight when packing, and I try to deliberately underpack so
> that I'll have room in the suitcase for items I bring back from my trips.

Obviously I'm not trying to change anyone's mind, whatever works. I
like soft sided luggage for a bunch of reasons and one of them is
that they're forgiving on how much you can get into there. I don't
mind packing light but I'd rather it wasn't because of weight issues.

nancy

On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 22:25:37 -0700, "Bob Terwilliger"
> wrote:

>Sky wrote:
>
>> Those hard-sided Samsonite suitcases are well worth their weight and more!
>> Remember Samsonite's commercial many, many years ago where one of their
>> hard-shelled suitcases was dropped out of an airplane - or something like
>> that?
>
>I remember an old Samsonite commercial where a limp wristed/dicked baboon assface beat the hell out of
>a suitcase, but the suitcase emerged unscathed.
>
>Bob

"Bob Terwilliger" wrote in message
b.com...

sf wrote:

> I thought about the luggage - but who uses hard sided suitcases
> anymore?

I do, for one. My huge twenty-year-old hard-sided Samsonite has traversed
hundreds of thousands of miles and still protects my belongings perfectly.
What fault do you find with hard-sided suitcases?

Bob

- - - - - - - - - - -

I have some arthritis and heart issues, so I have changed suitcases several
times--always looking for lighter-weight and yet sturdy (and easily wheeled)
suitcases. At the present time, I am using a wheeled suitcase and small
wheeled carry-on by Eagle Creek. They were expensive, but they are light
weight and durable. They are also forgiving if I overstuff. I use the
smaller "standard" size rather than the largest available to force myself to
pack lighter!

MaryL

On 9/22/2011 8:38 PM, Bob Terwilliger wrote:
> sf wrote:
>
>> I thought about the luggage - but who uses hard sided suitcases
>> anymore?
>
> I do, for one. My huge twenty-year-old hard-sided Samsonite has traversed
> hundreds of thousands of miles and still protects my belongings perfectly.
> What fault do you find with hard-sided suitcases?
>
> Bob
>
>
They are heavy. Weight limits for international flights are 50 pounds.
I want the lightest suitcase I can get.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

On Sep 22, 9:38*pm, "Bob Terwilliger" >
wrote:
> sf wrote:
> > I thought about the luggage - but who uses hard sided suitcases
> > anymore?
>
> I do, for one. My huge twenty-year-old hard-sided Samsonite has traversed
> hundreds of thousands of miles and still protects my belongings perfectly..
> What fault do you find with hard-sided suitcases?
>
> Bob

I do, for two. I have a hardsider which can take the pounding the
airlines give it. The wheels are greatly recessed which is something
I would always look for when luggage shopping. It also does three
sixties nicely.

These soft siders with exposed wheels are only good for car trips when
you're doing your own handling. Also, if stuck in a downpour, I
wonder how leakproof the softies are.

I still have memories of trying to drag a fully packed softie thru the
Seattle airport on three wobbly wheels. Embarrassing as heck. Never
again. I'll deal with the extra weight to get the protection and
durability.

On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 18:38:40 -0700, "Bob Terwilliger"
> wrote:

>I do, for one. My huge twenty-year-old hard-sided Samsonite has traversed
>hundreds of thousands of miles and still protects my belongings perfectly.
>What fault do you find with hard-sided suitcases?

I still have an old hard-sided Samsonite in the attic. My major complaint with
it was not its weight, but its design -- two equal-volume halves, rather than a
single deep compartment. I find the lid half difficult to pack and limited in
what can be put there without oozing oiut the sides of the flimsy flexible panel
that is supposed to cover it.

Has there ever been a hard-sided suitcase with a single compartment design and
lid?

-- Larry

On 9/22/2011 11:25 PM, Bob Terwilliger wrote:
> Sky wrote:
>
>> Those hard-sided Samsonite suitcases are well worth their weight and more!
>> Remember Samsonite's commercial many, many years ago where one of their
>> hard-shelled suitcases was dropped out of an airplane - or something like
>> that?
>
> I remember an old Samsonite commercial where a gorilla beat the hell out of
> a suitcase, but the suitcase emerged unscathed.
>
> Bob
>
>


I don't believe anyone argues the strength or durability of the
hard-sides. Our European friends always use them, usually metal
like aluminum. Then they buy nylon duffles to have for laundry and
non-fragile items to get their purchases home.

Hard sided have their benefits, but they don't work for me.
YMMV as always.

gloria p

On 9/22/2011 11:26 PM, Bob Terwilliger wrote:
> sf wrote:
>
>>> What fault do you find with hard-sided suitcases?
>>>
>> Weight.
>
> OK, fair enough. Being a big burly guy, that's not a concern for me, but I
> can see it being a valid concern for you

>
> Bob
>
>


The weight isn't as important for carrying, Bob, as it is for
airline weight regulations. When we go overseas, we are allowed
50 lbs for check-through luggage. When we take flights within
foreign countries, the weight allowance goes down to 44 lb (20 Kilos)
and this often includes weighing carry-ons.

gloria p

On 9/23/2011 6:25 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 9/23/2011 7:36 AM, Bob Terwilliger wrote:
>> Nancy wrote:
>
>>> If I was carrying around expensive breakable toys of some
>>> sort, like ... telescopes ... maybe I'd get a hard sided
>>> bag for that. My clothing, shoes, shampoo don't suffer in
>>> soft sided luggage and the stuff is pretty darned tough.
>>>
>>> To each his own, obviously.
>>
>> When we visit Lin's relatives, we often bring along bottles of wine for
>> them, because it costs a lot less and tastes a lot better than the wines
>> which are readily available where they live. It's a minor gesture, but a
>> greatly appreciated one.
>
> Yeah, I wouldn't want wine bottles breaking in my luggage.
>

Sigh. Remember when you could carry on things like that to avoid
breakage? People still forget you can't, or will say "But it's
wine/vodka/olive oil and it's SEALED." Nope. TSA doesn't give
a rip, it goes in the bins with the oversized shampoo or lotions
or toothpaste. They don't make exceptions.

In the past few months passengers have given me sealed bottles of gin
and wine because they couldn't carry them on or mail them home. (I am an
airport volunteer "ambassador".) Stuff like that gives security a
bad taste.

gloria p

On Sep 23, 12:25*am, "Bob Terwilliger" >
wrote:
> Sky wrote:
> > Those hard-sided Samsonite suitcases are well worth their weight and more!
> > Remember Samsonite's commercial many, many years ago where one of their
> > hard-shelled suitcases was dropped out of an airplane - or something like
> > that?
>
> I remember an old Samsonite commercial where a gorilla beat the hell out of
> a suitcase, but the suitcase emerged unscathed.
>
> Bob

I think that's an American Tourister commercial.

My h.s. graduation present was luggage - hard-cased Samsonite. It was
"the thing" to get for graduation. When my boys were little, the
train case - the only remaining piece - turned into the carrier for
their Matchbox cars. It was perfect for that. LOL.

N.

If I was carrying around expensive breakable toys of some
> sort, like ... telescopes ... maybe I'd get a hard sided
> bag for that. *My clothing, shoes, shampoo don't suffer in
> soft sided luggage and the stuff is pretty darned tough.
>
> To each his own, obviously.
>
> nancy

I read earlier this week that some overweight luggage costs as much as
$450 on some airlines! Just ridiculous.

N.

On Sep 23, 6:36*am, "Bob Terwilliger" >
wrote:
> Nancy wrote:
> >>>> What fault do you find with hard-sided suitcases?
>
> >>> Weight.
>
> >> OK, fair enough. Being a big burly guy, that's not a concern for me, but
> >> I
> >> can see it being a valid concern for you
>
> > Aside from the effort of dealing with them, it's pretty
> > expensive to go over the weight limit when you're flying.
> > I don't want a good portion of my luggage weight to be the
> > very thing that holds my stuff.
>
> > If I was carrying around expensive breakable toys of some
> > sort, like ... telescopes ... maybe I'd get a hard sided
> > bag for that. *My clothing, shoes, shampoo don't suffer in
> > soft sided luggage and the stuff is pretty darned tough.
>
> > To each his own, obviously.
>
> When we visit Lin's relatives, we often bring along bottles of wine for
> them, because it costs a lot less and tastes a lot better than the wines
> which are readily available where they live. It's a minor gesture, but a
> greatly appreciated one.
>
> When I deploy to war zones for months at a time, I am allowed to charge
> excess baggage fees to my company -- which is only fair, because I'm also
> required to carry about ninety pounds of chemical warfare protective gear..
>
> For personal travel on commercial airlines, I'm pretty good at hitting
> *just* the right weight when packing, and I try to deliberately underpack so
> that I'll have room in the suitcase for items I bring back from my trips.
>
> Bob- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

If one does a lot of air travel and a lot of shopping, having stuff
shipped home is easily the best way to handle excess baggage.

N.

In article >,
says...
>
> On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 18:38:40 -0700, "Bob Terwilliger"
> > wrote:
>
> >I do, for one. My huge twenty-year-old hard-sided Samsonite has traversed
> >hundreds of thousands of miles and still protects my belongings perfectly.
> >What fault do you find with hard-sided suitcases?
>
> I still have an old hard-sided Samsonite in the attic. My major complaint with
> it was not its weight, but its design -- two equal-volume halves, rather than a
> single deep compartment. I find the lid half difficult to pack and limited in
> what can be put there without oozing oiut the sides of the flimsy flexible panel
> that is supposed to cover it.
>
> Has there ever been a hard-sided suitcase with a single compartment design and
> lid?

My mother had a large blue one, the brand of which I never knew, which
had that arrangement. I may still have it in the attic.

Then there's Pelican <http://www.pelican.com/>--the cases are intended
to hold cameras, electronic instruments, and weapons, but without the
foam they work fine as luggage. Their "storm" line is lighter than
their regular line but you can still beat a Samsonite to flinders with
one. Watertight, too.

Not pretty, but they have a certain cachet--they don't say "tourist",
they say "pro"--pro _what_ is another story--photographer,
cinematographer, electronics technician, assassin . . .

Note that their "storm" line is lighter than the regular line and has
more convenient latches--Storm was a competitor that Pelican bought up.
All require padlocks or can be fitted with key locks at extra cost--the
keylocks compromise the waterproofing though.

On 9/23/2011 10:48 AM, gloria.p wrote:
> On 9/23/2011 6:25 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>> On 9/23/2011 7:36 AM, Bob Terwilliger wrote:
>>> Nancy wrote:
>>
>>>> If I was carrying around expensive breakable toys of some
>>>> sort, like ... telescopes ... maybe I'd get a hard sided
>>>> bag for that. My clothing, shoes, shampoo don't suffer in
>>>> soft sided luggage and the stuff is pretty darned tough.
>>>>
>>>> To each his own, obviously.
>>>
>>> When we visit Lin's relatives, we often bring along bottles of wine for
>>> them, because it costs a lot less and tastes a lot better than the wines
>>> which are readily available where they live. It's a minor gesture, but a
>>> greatly appreciated one.
>>
>> Yeah, I wouldn't want wine bottles breaking in my luggage.
>>
>
> Sigh. Remember when you could carry on things like that to avoid
> breakage? People still forget you can't, or will say "But it's
> wine/vodka/olive oil and it's SEALED." Nope. TSA doesn't give
> a rip, it goes in the bins with the oversized shampoo or lotions
> or toothpaste. They don't make exceptions.
>
> In the past few months passengers have given me sealed bottles of gin
> and wine because they couldn't carry them on or mail them home. (I am an
> airport volunteer "ambassador".) Stuff like that gives security a
> bad taste.
>
For sure, but that is the penalty for being politically correct. We
decided we can't target likely suspects so we have to harass and annoy
everyone.


> gloria p

On 9/23/2011 9:31 AM, Nancy2 wrote:

>
> If one does a lot of air travel and a lot of shopping, having stuff
> shipped home is easily the best way to handle excess baggage.
>
> N.



I agree, but that adds another layer of uncertainty about whether you
will ever see your items again. Daughter bought a gorgeous glass
bowl in Capri, about 20" across and very shallow. Looking down onto
it, it looks like a couple of small fish swimming in a pond. The
glassmaker said they would ship but that it needed special packaging.

More than two months later as she was getting ready to challenge the
charge on her credit card, the bowl arrived, packed in a heavy, custom
built wooden case, in perfect condition.

Merchants are getting better about offering to ship. In Greece various
shops offered to send olive oil, anything from a 6 small bottle pkg to a
full 24 bottle case. In Morocco and Turkey many members of our group
bought rugs and had them shipped.

Some friends have not been so fortunate and have NEVER received their mdse.

gloria p

On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 08:48:57 -0600, gloria.p wrote:

> On 9/23/2011 6:25 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>> On 9/23/2011 7:36 AM, Bob Terwilliger wrote:
>>> Nancy wrote:
>>
>>>> If I was carrying around expensive breakable toys of some
>>>> sort, like ... telescopes ... maybe I'd get a hard sided
>>>> bag for that. My clothing, shoes, shampoo don't suffer in
>>>> soft sided luggage and the stuff is pretty darned tough.
>>>>
>>>> To each his own, obviously.
>>>
>>> When we visit Lin's relatives, we often bring along bottles of wine for
>>> them, because it costs a lot less and tastes a lot better than the wines
>>> which are readily available where they live. It's a minor gesture, but a
>>> greatly appreciated one.
>>
>> Yeah, I wouldn't want wine bottles breaking in my luggage.
>>
>
> Sigh. Remember when you could carry on things like that to avoid
> breakage? People still forget you can't, or will say "But it's
> wine/vodka/olive oil and it's SEALED." Nope. TSA doesn't give
> a rip, it goes in the bins with the oversized shampoo or lotions
> or toothpaste. They don't make exceptions.

but we have to do that because the terrorists hate our freedoms.

your pal,
blake

On Sep 23, 10:33*am, wrote:
>
> I still have an old hard-sided Samsonite in the attic. My major complaint with
> it was not its weight, but its design -- two equal-volume halves, rather than a
> single deep compartment. I find the lid half difficult to pack and limited in
> what can be put there without oozing oiut the sides of the flimsy flexible panel
> that is supposed to cover it.
>
> Has there ever been a hard-sided suitcase with a single compartment design and
> lid?
>
> -- Larry

Oh yeah - I had TWO of those - his and hers deal - I called them the
Bible suitcases - cuz they open like a book, as opposed to the cigar
box type with a flip lid and deeper bottom. Impossible to close the
Bible type without spillover. With two of them open on the floor of a
small hotel room, it was impossible to move around. When the latch
gave way, I ditched one and gave the other away. Hated those things.

I do own an ancient American Tourister cigar box type - with no
dividing panel. Right now it's a home for old photo albums. The
thrift stores usually have tons of them. Circa 1965.

On 23/09/2011 11:30 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
>
> I read earlier this week that some overweight luggage costs as much as
> $450 on some airlines! Just ridiculous.
>


I had some visitors from Holland a few years ago. They travelled light
and had only one suitcase between them. They picked up a few souvenirs
while they were here and a couple bottles of wine to take back with
them. They were just a couple pounds over the 50 lb. limit and had to
pay $50 extra. Had they had one bag each they could have taken almost
double the amount on the plane with them.