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Mark Thorson wrote:
> All it takes is one jerk to ruin it for everybody. > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2040000 They could simply place restrictions on it instead. |
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On Sep 22, 11:16*pm, "DavidW" > wrote:
> Mark Thorson wrote: > > All it takes is one jerk to ruin it for everybody. > > >http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2040000 > > They could simply place restrictions on it instead. It's Texas. Be grateful that the guy they executed was actually guilty. |
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Christopher Helms wrote:
> > On Sep 22, 11:16 pm, "DavidW" > wrote: > > Mark Thorson wrote: > > > All it takes is one jerk to ruin it for everybody. > > > > >http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2040000 > > > > They could simply place restrictions on it instead. > > It's Texas. Be grateful that the guy they executed was actually > guilty. Yes, they try to keep it more than 2 out of 3. |
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On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 09:49:25 -0800, Mark Thorson wrote:
> Christopher Helms wrote: >> >> On Sep 22, 11:16 pm, "DavidW" > wrote: >>> Mark Thorson wrote: >>> > All it takes is one jerk to ruin it for everybody. >>> >>> >http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2040000 >>> >>> They could simply place restrictions on it instead. >> >> It's Texas. Be grateful that the guy they executed was actually >> guilty. > > Yes, they try to keep it more than 2 out of 3. a fan of gov. rick perry's said, admiringly, 'it takes balls to execute an innocent man.' your pal, blake |
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On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 14:34:49 -0400, blake murphy
> wrote: > On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 09:49:25 -0800, Mark Thorson wrote: > > > Christopher Helms wrote: > >> > >> On Sep 22, 11:16 pm, "DavidW" > wrote: > >>> Mark Thorson wrote: > >>> > All it takes is one jerk to ruin it for everybody. > >>> > >>> >http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2040000 > >>> > >>> They could simply place restrictions on it instead. > >> > >> It's Texas. Be grateful that the guy they executed was actually > >> guilty. > > > > Yes, they try to keep it more than 2 out of 3. > > a fan of gov. rick perry's said, admiringly, 'it takes balls to execute an > innocent man.' > and his are brass. -- All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt. |
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On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 14:39:18 -0500, Bull wrote:
> In article >, > blake murphy > wrote: > >> On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 09:49:25 -0800, Mark Thorson wrote: >> >>> Christopher Helms wrote: >>>> >>>> On Sep 22, 11:16 pm, "DavidW" > wrote: >>>>> Mark Thorson wrote: >>>>> > All it takes is one jerk to ruin it for everybody. >>>>> >>>>> >http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2040000 >>>>> >>>>> They could simply place restrictions on it instead. >>>> >>>> It's Texas. Be grateful that the guy they executed was actually >>>> guilty. >>> >>> Yes, they try to keep it more than 2 out of 3. >> >> a fan of gov. rick perry's said, admiringly, 'it takes balls to execute an >> innocent man.' >> >> your pal, >> blake > > Quote your source you dummy. Total fabrication! > > BULLballs <http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/08/03/perry_willingham_survey> <http://www.tnr.com/blog/jonathan-chait/93136/it-takes-balls-execute-innocent-man> <http://blog.buzzflash.com/node/12964> <http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss//duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1657463> ....is that enough, you ignorant ****? if not google has some 57,000 mo <http://www.google.com/search?q=%22it+takes+balls+to+execute+an+innocent+ man.%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US ![]() blake |
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On Sep 23, 11:35*am, Christopher Helms > wrote:
> On Sep 22, 11:16*pm, "DavidW" > wrote: > > > Mark Thorson wrote: > > > All it takes is one jerk to ruin it for everybody. > > > >http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2040000 > > > They could simply place restrictions on it instead. > > It's Texas. Be grateful that the guy they executed was actually > guilty. I look for the day when the death penalty is totally abolished. |
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On Sep 23, 9:40*am, rosie > wrote:
> On Sep 23, 11:35*am, Christopher *Helms > wrote: > > > On Sep 22, 11:16*pm, "DavidW" > wrote: > > > > Mark Thorson wrote: > > > > All it takes is one jerk to ruin it for everybody. > > > > >http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2040000 > > > > They could simply place restrictions on it instead. > > > It's Texas. Be grateful that the guy they executed was actually > > guilty. > > I look for the day when the death penalty is totally abolished. I look for the day when we don't have to wait years and years before we execute. I suppose if you husband and kids were brutally murdered, you'd still want the killer to get life in prison? Three meals a day, all the sex they want, drugs, tv... |
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On Sep 23, 11:55*am, Chemo the Clown > wrote:
> On Sep 23, 9:40*am, rosie > wrote: > > > On Sep 23, 11:35*am, Christopher *Helms > wrote: > > > > On Sep 22, 11:16*pm, "DavidW" > wrote: > > > > > Mark Thorson wrote: > > > > > All it takes is one jerk to ruin it for everybody. > > > > > >http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2040000 > > > > > They could simply place restrictions on it instead. > > > > It's Texas. Be grateful that the guy they executed was actually > > > guilty. > > > I look for the day when the death penalty is totally abolished. > > I look for the day when we don't have to wait years and years before > we execute. I suppose if you husband and kids were brutally murdered, > you'd still want the killer to get life in prison? Three meals a day, > all the sex they want, drugs, tv... I think I would be devestated if something of that sort happened. However, I do not believe death penalty is the way to deal with a crime. We all die anyway, if we can give them life with out parole, it can be pretty bad. As for the food, I doubt very much if iit is all that tasty. Sex? Well.. I am not sure if it is all that pleasant in prison.And on a practical note, it costs more to go through a death penalty phase with all the hoopla that goes with it than it does to house them the rest of their lives. |
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On Friday, September 23, 2011 11:55:20 AM UTC-5, Andy Tillinghast wrote:
> On Sep 23, 9:40*am, rosie > wrote: > > On Sep 23, 11:35*am, Christopher *Helms > wrote: > > > > > On Sep 22, 11:16*pm, "DavidW" > wrote: > > > > > > Mark Thorson wrote: > > > > > All it takes is one jerk to ruin it for everybody. > > > > > > >http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2040000 > > > > > > They could simply place restrictions on it instead. > > > > > It's Texas. Be grateful that the guy they executed was actually > > > guilty. > > > > I look for the day when the death penalty is totally abolished. > > I look for the day when we don't have to wait years and years before > we execute. I suppose if you husband and kids were brutally murdered, > you'd still want the killer to get life in prison? Three meals a day, > all the sex they want, drugs, tv... "All the sex they want"? Where'd you get that from? --Bryan |
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On 9/23/2011 12:55 PM, Chemo the Clown wrote:
> On Sep 23, 9:40 am, > wrote: >> On Sep 23, 11:35 am, Christopher > wrote: >> >>> On Sep 22, 11:16 pm, > wrote: >> >>>> Mark Thorson wrote: >>>>> All it takes is one jerk to ruin it for everybody. >> >>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2040000 >> >>>> They could simply place restrictions on it instead. >> >>> It's Texas. Be grateful that the guy they executed was actually >>> guilty. >> >> I look for the day when the death penalty is totally abolished. > > I look for the day when we don't have to wait years and years before > we execute. I suppose if you husband and kids were brutally murdered, > you'd still want the killer to get life in prison? Three meals a day, > all the sex they want, drugs, tv... I'm iffy about the death penalty but that was a horrific murder and the killer deserves the same fate. |
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rosie wrote:
> > On Sep 23, 11:35 am, Christopher Helms > wrote: > > > > It's Texas. Be grateful that the guy they executed was actually > > guilty. > > I look for the day when the death penalty is totally abolished. I was pro-death penalty until I read about this case: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameron_Todd_Willingham That tipped me over. If the only way to stop Texas from executing innocent people is to ban it nationally, I'm in favor of that. |
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On Sep 23, 11:03*am, Mark Thorson > wrote:
> rosie wrote: > > > On Sep 23, 11:35 am, Christopher *Helms > wrote: > > > > It's Texas. Be grateful that the guy they executed was actually > > > guilty. > > > I look for the day when the death penalty is totally abolished. > > I was pro-death penalty until I read about this case: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameron_Todd_Willingham > > That tipped me over. *If the only way to stop Texas > from executing innocent people is to ban it nationally, > I'm in favor of that. No system is perfect but if you want to pay to house some murderer then go for it. I say, one appeal with 6 months and then kill 'em. Use a 50 cent bullet and quit being all sensitive with this lethal injection crap. Either a bullet or the rope. |
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On Sep 23, 1:03*pm, Mark Thorson > wrote:
> rosie wrote: > > > On Sep 23, 11:35 am, Christopher *Helms > wrote: > > > > It's Texas. Be grateful that the guy they executed was actually > > > guilty. > > > I look for the day when the death penalty is totally abolished. > > I was pro-death penalty until I read about this case: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameron_Todd_Willingham > > That tipped me over. *If the only way to stop Texas > from executing innocent people is to ban it nationally, > I'm in favor of that. Very few countries still use death penalty. I wish the US was one.There are worse things then death. |
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On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:03:14 -0800, Mark Thorson wrote:
> rosie wrote: >> >> On Sep 23, 11:35 am, Christopher Helms > wrote: >>> >>> It's Texas. Be grateful that the guy they executed was actually >>> guilty. >> >> I look for the day when the death penalty is totally abolished. > > I was pro-death penalty until I read about this case: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameron_Todd_Willingham > > That tipped me over. If the only way to stop Texas > from executing innocent people is to ban it nationally, > I'm in favor of that. Innocent people do get charged with crimes they didn't commit, and innocent people die or spend their lives behind bars, but that's no reason to stop punishing the truly guilty. Some of you people must have lived very sheltered lives. I grew up on the mean streets. There are people out there with no regard for human life. They will kill you for your shoes. When those people take another's life, they deserve to die. That's all, I'm done... TFM |
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Mark Thorson wrote:
> > I was pro-death penalty until I read about this case: I was pro execution when I thought about how many executed people ever came back to repeat their crimes. The number is amazingly low. I was anti execution when I learned that it costs more to execute a prisoner than it does to keep them in prison for the rest of their lives. If it's about quarantine to prevent repeat offences then it does not have to be about revenge or justice. Then it can be about the cost of the quarantine against the cost of an absolute guarantee against repeat offenses. I'm not fully in one camp or the other but I think in cases where the guilt is not in doubt I don't think the discussion runs in the right direction. This time guilt was in doubt, argh. |
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On Friday, September 23, 2011 1:03:14 PM UTC-5, Mark Thorson wrote:
> rosie wrote: > > > > On Sep 23, 11:35 am, Christopher Helms > wrote: > > > > > > It's Texas. Be grateful that the guy they executed was actually > > > guilty. > > > > I look for the day when the death penalty is totally abolished. > > I was pro-death penalty until I read about this case: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameron_Todd_Willingham > > That tipped me over. If the only way to stop Texas > from executing innocent people is to ban it nationally, > I'm in favor of that. Then maybe Rick Perry will decide to go ahead and secede. I mean, how much fun would it be to be a governor if you didn't get to kill people? --Bryan |
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Mark Thorson > wrote in :
> rosie wrote: >> >> On Sep 23, 11:35 am, Christopher Helms > wrote: >> > >> > It's Texas. Be grateful that the guy they executed was actually >> > guilty. >> >> I look for the day when the death penalty is totally abolished. > > I was pro-death penalty until I read about this case: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameron_Todd_Willingham > > That tipped me over. If the only way to stop Texas > from executing innocent people is to ban it nationally, > I'm in favor of that. > You're joking, right? I read that and just thought, "Guilty". He got what he deserved. -- Peter Lucas Hobart Tasmania Nothing ever truely dies the Universe wastes nothing everything is simply... transformed |
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On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 09:40:00 -0700 (PDT), rosie >
wrote: > On Sep 23, 11:35*am, Christopher Helms > wrote: > > On Sep 22, 11:16*pm, "DavidW" > wrote: > > > > > Mark Thorson wrote: > > > > All it takes is one jerk to ruin it for everybody. > > > > > >http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2040000 > > > > > They could simply place restrictions on it instead. > > > > It's Texas. Be grateful that the guy they executed was actually > > guilty. > > I look for the day when the death penalty is totally abolished. I am for it, because in this day and age of DNA evidence - you know when you have the guilty party. OJ was guilty. -- All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt. |
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sf > wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 09:40:00 -0700 (PDT), rosie > > I am for it, because in this day and age of DNA evidence - you know > when you have the guilty party. OJ was guilty. > > -- > All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt. I wish that were true about DNA evidence. Unfortunately it's not the science that's at fault, but the human system of collecting and analyzing the evidence. There have been documented cases of police labs tampering with DNA evidence to increase conviction rates, etc. As long as human processes are error-prone (i.e. forever), the death penalty will kill the innocent. |
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On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 13:30:24 -0700, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 09:40:00 -0700 (PDT), rosie > > wrote: > >> On Sep 23, 11:35*am, Christopher Helms > wrote: >>> On Sep 22, 11:16*pm, "DavidW" > wrote: >>> >>> > Mark Thorson wrote: >>> > > All it takes is one jerk to ruin it for everybody. >>> >>> > >http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2040000 >>> >>> > They could simply place restrictions on it instead. >>> >>> It's Texas. Be grateful that the guy they executed was actually >>> guilty. >> >> I look for the day when the death penalty is totally abolished. > > I am for it, because in this day and age of DNA evidence - you know > when you have the guilty party. OJ was guilty. > > -- > All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwTZ2xpQwpA TFM |
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On Sep 23, 11:40*am, rosie > wrote:
> On Sep 23, 11:35*am, Christopher *Helms > wrote: > > > On Sep 22, 11:16*pm, "DavidW" > wrote: > > > > Mark Thorson wrote: > > > > All it takes is one jerk to ruin it for everybody. > > > > >http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2040000 > > > > They could simply place restrictions on it instead. > > > It's Texas. Be grateful that the guy they executed was actually > > guilty. > > I look for the day when the death penalty is totally abolished. *eyeroll* oh here we go.... |
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On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 19:59:04 -0700 (PDT), projectile vomit chick wrote:
> On Sep 23, 11:40*am, rosie > wrote: >> On Sep 23, 11:35*am, Christopher *Helms > wrote: >> >>> On Sep 22, 11:16*pm, "DavidW" > wrote: >> >>> > Mark Thorson wrote: >>> > > All it takes is one jerk to ruin it for everybody. >> >>> > >http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2040000 >> >>> > They could simply place restrictions on it instead. >> >>> It's Texas. Be grateful that the guy they executed was actually >>> guilty. >> >> I look for the day when the death penalty is totally abolished. > > *eyeroll* oh here we go.... aww, would that deprive you of precious entertainment? blake |
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"DavidW" > wrote in news:4e7c0888$0$26323$a8266bb1
@newsreader.readnews.com: > Mark Thorson wrote: >> All it takes is one jerk to ruin it for everybody. >> >> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2040000 > > They could simply place restrictions on it instead. > > > They're going to die, why bother feeding them? -- Peter Lucas Hobart Tasmania Nothing ever truely dies the Universe wastes nothing everything is simply... transformed |
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Peter wrote:
> They're going to die, why bother feeding them? Isn't that what you've always said about your pets? -- |
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On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:56:08 -0800, Mark Thorson >
wrote: > All it takes is one jerk to ruin it for everybody. > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2040000 That guy, especially, deserved nothing better than a few ice-cubes for his last meal. However, last meals don't have to be gluttonous orgies. Prisoners can be given choices and the prison cook/warden can decide what would be a reasonable portion. -- I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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On 9/22/2011 11:56 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
> All it takes is one jerk to ruin it for everybody. > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2040000 Read that article on Google News. I recall reading some years past that the 'final meal' was limited to what the prison kitchen was able to provide - nothing special - no out of prison provision(s) - etc. Makes sense that the condemned convict doesn't deserve/get more than the victim did. Sky -- Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer! Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice!! |
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Mark Thorson wrote:
> All it takes is one jerk to ruin it for everybody. > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2040000 Ugh. An overstuffed, overfed dead body is *not* something I'd want to have to deal with. I wonder if this condemned man intended on being as unpleasant in death to his jailers as he must have been in life? |
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On Sep 23, 7:20*am, Goomba > wrote:
> Mark Thorson wrote: > > All it takes is one jerk to ruin it for everybody. > > >http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2040000 > > Ugh. An overstuffed, overfed dead body is *not* something I'd want to > have to deal with. > I wonder if this condemned man intended on being as unpleasant in death > to his jailers as he must have been in life? The afterward stench.....barf!! |
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![]() "Mark Thorson" > wrote in message ... > All it takes is one jerk to ruin it for everybody. > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2040000 I don't think death row inmates should be accorded fancy meals. But as Sky pointed out, the meal should be from what is available at the prison kitchen facilities. But what's the point of gorging yourself on food when they're about to kill you? Probably a last minute F* you to the system. I did enjoy that book with last meals listed. I have a twisted sense of curiosity. Jill |
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On Sep 22, 11:56*pm, Mark Thorson > wrote:
> All it takes is one jerk to ruin it for everybody. > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2040000 Good. They also should bring back the electric chair and firing squads. |
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On Sep 24, 10:57*pm, projectile vomit chick
> wrote: > On Sep 22, 11:56*pm, Mark Thorson > wrote: > > > All it takes is one jerk to ruin it for everybody. > > >http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2040000 > > Good. > > They also should bring back the electric chair and firing squads. If executions are to have any use, they should be deterrents. Criminals should be hanged from a lamppost in the neighborhood where they lived and left dangling for all to contemplate for about a week. Otherwise, why risk killing someone who is really innocent? Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. |
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On 25/09/2011 11:26 AM, Jerry Avins wrote:
>> >> They also should bring back the electric chair and firing squads. > > If executions are to have any use, they should be deterrents. > Criminals should be hanged from a lamppost in the neighborhood where > they lived and left dangling for all to contemplate for about a week. > Otherwise, why risk killing someone who is really innocent? > There are a couple of problems with the idea of capital punishment as a deterrent. First of all, a portion of the population do not commit crimes because they are basically good people who know right from wrong and do not want to do wrong. Then there are those who try not to wrong because they are are afraid of the consequences. Then there are those who figure that they can get away with it or just don't care if they get caught and sent to jail. In some circles it is a badge of honour to have been in prison. A lot of murders are crimes of passion. People argue or have fits of jealousy and simply aren't thinking with their brains. Deterrence does not work on those people. However.... a lot of murders, especially domestic murders are the culmination of an escalating pattern of violence. There are usually preceded by incidents of lour arguing, verbal abuse and physical abuse. They happen more frequently among younger couples and usually happen when they are drinking heavily. Perhaps a better way to deter murders, at least in domestic situations, is to react more harshly to the incidents of domestic violence that precede the murders. |
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On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 15:22:01 -0400, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 25/09/2011 11:26 AM, Jerry Avins wrote: > >>> >>> They also should bring back the electric chair and firing squads. >> >> If executions are to have any use, they should be deterrents. >> Criminals should be hanged from a lamppost in the neighborhood where >> they lived and left dangling for all to contemplate for about a week. >> Otherwise, why risk killing someone who is really innocent? >> > > There are a couple of problems with the idea of capital punishment as a > deterrent. First of all, a portion of the population do not commit > crimes because they are basically good people who know right from wrong > and do not want to do wrong. Then there are those who try not to wrong > because they are are afraid of the consequences. Then there are those > who figure that they can get away with it or just don't care if they get > caught and sent to jail. In some circles it is a badge of honour to have > been in prison. > > A lot of murders are crimes of passion. People argue or have fits of > jealousy and simply aren't thinking with their brains. Deterrence does > not work on those people. However.... a lot of murders, especially > domestic murders are the culmination of an escalating pattern of > violence. There are usually preceded by incidents of lour arguing, > verbal abuse and physical abuse. They happen more frequently among > younger couples and usually happen when they are drinking heavily. > > Perhaps a better way to deter murders, at least in domestic situations, > is to react more harshly to the incidents of domestic violence that > precede the murders. another problem with the death penalty as a deterrent is that murder rates are higher in states with the death penalty that states that do not: <http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/deterrence-states-without-death-penalty-have-had-consistently-lower-murder-rates> your pal, blake |
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On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 10:46:14 -0500, Andy wrote:
> Jerry Avins > wrote: > >>> They also should bring back the electric chair and firing squads. > > We lived a few towns from a prison with the electric chair and if we stayed > up late enough the lights would dim when it drew power to put the condemned > to death. > > Kept me on the straight and narrow!!! > > Andy like you would have the balls or the brains to carry out a murder. blake |
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On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 13:57:52 -0500, Andy wrote:
> blake murphy > wrote: > >> like you would have the balls or the brains to carry out a murder. >> >> blake > > No Legs blake murphy, > > You clearly obviate your angry mental illness and wishful intentions. > > Good thing you won't have children! > > Andy do you know what 'obviate' means? obviously not: ob·vi·ate (ŏb'vē-āt') tr.v., -at·ed, -at·ing, -ates. To anticipate and dispose of effectively; render unnecessary. run along and play with the other fourth graders, andy. blake |
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On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 14:21:57 -0500, Andy wrote:
> No Legs blake murphy have had the stupid fortune to step on a landmine and > blow his legs off and live!!! > > You and the world would be far better off if you'd have simply just died!!! > > Spare us your crippled anger! > > Andy you don't exactly have a lot of room to talk about someone else's 'crippled anger.' take your meds and have a drink. several drinks. blake |
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On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 19:57:52 -0700 (PDT), projectile vomit chick wrote:
> On Sep 22, 11:56*pm, Mark Thorson > wrote: >> All it takes is one jerk to ruin it for everybody. >> >> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2040000 > > Good. > > They also should bring back the electric chair and firing squads. why not the rack and the iron maiden? blake |
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