Ranee wrote:

>Judy, your cooking posts have been on
> topic, mostly interesting and led to other
> good cooking discussions. However, I
> must warn you that by taking this
> attitude, you may end up in many
> people's killfiles. I don't need to see
> ****ing matches between people here,
> nor do I need to see vulgarity and
> rudeness quoted repeatedly.

That's all fine 'n' good advice, and I appreciate your feedback,
BUT....I came to this group to discuss cooking, as that's what I
understood the group to be about. correct me if I'm wrong? I did NOT
join in and post, to be ridiculed and made fun of, called horrible names
and bashed, as Brooklyn1 (and a couple others) have done repeatedly, and
I will NOT tolerate such behavior. I shouldn't have to, but I also will
not stand by quietly and be talked to that way, so if they want to play
those "games" and personally attack me, they are not going to get away
with it! I don't find it amusing in the least, and there is no reason
that I should have to put up with it. I did not start anything, but I
refuse to tolerate abuse without fighting back.

Judy

i am not sure how your unit works but if it has filters/kill file functions
it might be worth the trouble, i use mine maybe a bit too much but it does
keep the background noise to a dull roar, Lee
"Judy Haffner" > wrote in message
...
>
> Ranee wrote:
>
>>Judy, your cooking posts have been on
>> topic, mostly interesting and led to other
>> good cooking discussions. However, I
>> must warn you that by taking this
>> attitude, you may end up in many
>> people's killfiles. I don't need to see
>> ****ing matches between people here,
>> nor do I need to see vulgarity and
>> rudeness quoted repeatedly.
>
> That's all fine 'n' good advice, and I appreciate your feedback,
> BUT....I came to this group to discuss cooking, as that's what I
> understood the group to be about. correct me if I'm wrong? I did NOT
> join in and post, to be ridiculed and made fun of, called horrible names
> and bashed, as Brooklyn1 (and a couple others) have done repeatedly, and
> I will NOT tolerate such behavior. I shouldn't have to, but I also will
> not stand by quietly and be talked to that way, so if they want to play
> those "games" and personally attack me, they are not going to get away
> with it! I don't find it amusing in the least, and there is no reason
> that I should have to put up with it. I did not start anything, but I
> refuse to tolerate abuse without fighting back.
>
> Judy
>

"Judy Haffner" > wrote
> I came to this group to discuss cooking, as that's what I
> understood the group to be about.

Good. While we all tend to get off topic, that is the basis for being here.
I've learned a lot from others,. my main reason to be here.


> I did NOT
> join in and post, to be ridiculed and made fun of, called horrible names
> and bashed, as Brooklyn1 (and a couple others) have done repeatedly, and
> I will NOT tolerate such behavior. I shouldn't have to, but I also will
> not stand by quietly and be talked to that way, so if they want to play
> those "games" and personally attack me, they are not going to get away
> with it! I don't find it amusing in the least, and there is no reason
> that I should have to put up with it. I did not start anything, but I
> refuse to tolerate abuse without fighting back.
>
> Judy

This will be interesting to watch. Good luck.

On 10/5/2011 2:14 AM, Judy Haffner wrote:
> That's all fine 'n' good advice, and I appreciate your feedback,
> BUT....I came to this group to discuss cooking, as that's what I
> understood the group to be about. correct me if I'm wrong? I did NOT
> join in and post, to be ridiculed and made fun of, called horrible names
> and bashed, as Brooklyn1 (and a couple others) have done repeatedly, and
> I will NOT tolerate such behavior. I shouldn't have to, but I also will
> not stand by quietly and be talked to that way, so if they want to play
> those "games" and personally attack me, they are not going to get away
> with it! I don't find it amusing in the least, and there is no reason
> that I should have to put up with it. I did not start anything, but I
> refuse to tolerate abuse without fighting back.


Hooray for you, tough guy. How does it feel to be dragged down to the
lowest common denominator so easily?

If you are smart enough to figure out who the goof-balls are, why aren't
you smart enough to kill file them... or ignore them? No, you like the
battle and you begin to add just as much "noise" to the newsgroup as the
people you are fighting.

Is what some anonymous stranger says on a newsgroup important to you?
Someone you've never met and will probably never meet. Someone you
don't give a rat's ass about? What these people write is important to you?

Enjoy the good, ignore the doofuses. Don't become a part of the problem.

Oh... and I'll take a swipe at some of the doofuses every now and then
just because it is fun.... but I do it on my terms, not theirs.

George L

Sorry again for bumping in... But what's happenin'? I thought this is about "What Is Your Favorite Pizza?"

In article >,
(Judy Haffner) wrote:

> Ranee wrote:
>
> >Judy, your cooking posts have been on
> > topic, mostly interesting and led to other
> > good cooking discussions. However, I
> > must warn you that by taking this
> > attitude, you may end up in many
> > people's killfiles. I don't need to see
> > ****ing matches between people here,
> > nor do I need to see vulgarity and
> > rudeness quoted repeatedly.
>
> That's all fine 'n' good advice, and I appreciate your feedback,
> BUT....I came to this group to discuss cooking, as that's what I
> understood the group to be about. correct me if I'm wrong? I did NOT
> join in and post, to be ridiculed and made fun of, called horrible names
> and bashed, as Brooklyn1 (and a couple others) have done repeatedly, and
> I will NOT tolerate such behavior. I shouldn't have to, but I also will
> not stand by quietly and be talked to that way, so if they want to play
> those "games" and personally attack me, they are not going to get away
> with it! I don't find it amusing in the least, and there is no reason
> that I should have to put up with it. I did not start anything, but I
> refuse to tolerate abuse without fighting back.

I was going to give you a lecture, but a couple of other people have
already. Besides, nobody likes lectures! I remembered something I've
read on the groups before, which says it all:

Don't wrestle with pigs. You'll get dirty, they always win and they
actually *enjoy* it!

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

George L wrote:

>If you are smart enough to figure out
> who the goof-balls are, why aren't you
> smart enough to kill file them... or
> ignore them? No, you like the battle and
> you begin to add just as much "noise" to
> the newsgroup as the people you are
> fighting.

Hi George!

First off, I made my first post in here just little over 2 weeks ago,
and there was only two people I knew (from another group we're in and
they are great women) so I'm still trying to get to "know" all the
regular posters in here and enjoy discussing cooking tips and sharing
recipes (I was thrilled when I discovered the group) and I never
expected any nasty people in such a group, calling others horrible names
and putting them down, as I have seen, and must say, I was shocked that
about four of them turned on me immediately. I started nothing, and it
hurt me that they personally attacked me just for no reason.

I use the newsreader on my WebTV for all discussion groups, except for
one, and I do go through Google on my computer to access that group. I
can read posts through Google on WebTV, but am not able to post there
from this newsreader, unfortunately. Anyway, my point is, I'm also not
able to killfile on this newsreader, but I think it is rather pointless
to killfile, as those people's posts will show up in other people's
posts anyway, so you are going to read what they have to say eventually,
so what's the use of killfiling? It's best to ignore the obnoxious
posters, but first one has to figure out just WHO the trouble-makers
are, and it's not that easy for a newcomer, but there are obviously
several that aren't about to spread out the "welcome mat" for anyone new
coming to the group.

Judy

In article >,
(Judy Haffner) wrote:


> It's best to ignore the obnoxious
> posters, but first one has to figure out just WHO the trouble-makers
> are, and it's not that easy for a newcomer, but there are obviously
> several that aren't about to spread out the "welcome mat" for anyone new
> coming to the group.

I would offer to share my "A list", "B list" and "F list" with you, but
have learned the hard way that some of those on my "F list" are
considered "cute", funny and worthwhile by some on my "A list", and that
some on my "B list", are considered worthless by some on my "A list".
In short, nobody else's list will be of any use to you.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

On 10/5/2011 4:20 PM, Dan Abel wrote:
> I would offer to share my "A list", "B list" and "F list" with you, but
> have learned the hard way that some of those on my "F list" are
> considered "cute", funny and worthwhile by some on my "A list", and that
> some on my "B list", are considered worthless by some on my "A list".
> In short, nobody else's list will be of any use to you.


I had built up a pretty good killfile but when my computer crashed, for
some reason, the file didn't transfer into the new machine. I'm pretty
good about skipping the people I don't want to read so it isn't a big
deal.

The only one in the new killfile right now is someone who continually
top-posts. Nothing against her content, but the style of posting just
screws me up when I am trying to go through stuff quickly and since she
is fairly prolific, it is a minor aggravation that I can easily avoid.

George L

On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 08:27:28 -0700, Dan Abel > wrote:

> Don't wrestle with pigs. You'll get dirty, they always win and they
> actually *enjoy* it!

In this case, that's all too true! Judy, listen to Dan - he's right.

--

You are what you eat, so avoid fruitcake and nuts.

On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 13:54:58 +0000, haleymcadams1
> wrote:

> Sorry again for bumping in... But what's happenin'? I thought this is
> about "What Is Your Favorite Pizza?"
>
We have a certain poster, that I guess you've filtered out, who turns
every thread into something no one wants to read. He's picking on
Judy now.

--

You are what you eat, so avoid fruitcake and nuts.

On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 14:20:27 -0700, Dan Abel > wrote:

>In article >,
> (Judy Haffner) wrote:
>
>
>> It's best to ignore the obnoxious
>> posters, but first one has to figure out just WHO the trouble-makers
>> are, and it's not that easy for a newcomer, but there are obviously
>> several that aren't about to spread out the "welcome mat" for anyone new
>> coming to the group.

You are oh so wrong.

>I would offer to share my "A list", "B list" and "F list" with you, but
>have learned the hard way that some of those on my "F list" are
>considered "cute", funny and worthwhile by some on my "A list", and that
>some on my "B list", are considered worthless by some on my "A list".
>In short, nobody else's list will be of any use to you.

On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 13:54:58 +0000, haleymcadams1
> wrote:

>
>Storrmmee;1667989 Wrote:
>> i am not sure how your unit works but if it has filters/kill file
>> functions
>> it might be worth the trouble, i use mine maybe a bit too much but it
>> does
>> keep the background noise to a dull roar, Lee
>> "Judy Haffner" wrote in message
>> ...-
>>
>> Ranee wrote:
>> -
>> Judy, your cooking posts have been on
>> topic, mostly interesting and led to other
>> good cooking discussions. However, I
>> must warn you that by taking this
>> attitude, you may end up in many
>> people's killfiles. I don't need to see
>> ****ing matches between people here,
>> nor do I need to see vulgarity and
>> rudeness quoted repeatedly.-
>>
>> That's all fine 'n' good advice, and I appreciate your feedback,
>> BUT....I came to this group to discuss cooking, as that's what I
>> understood the group to be about. correct me if I'm wrong? I did NOT
>> join in and post, to be ridiculed and made fun of, called horrible
>> names
>> and bashed, as Brooklyn1 (and a couple others) have done repeatedly,
>> and
>> I will NOT tolerate such behavior. I shouldn't have to, but I also
>> will
>> not stand by quietly and be talked to that way, so if they want to
>> play
>> those "games" and personally attack me, they are not going to get away
>> with it! I don't find it amusing in the least, and there is no reason
>> that I should have to put up with it. I did not start anything, but I
>> refuse to tolerate abuse without fighting back.
>>
>> Judy
>> -
>
>Sorry again for bumping in... But what's happenin'? I thought this is
>about "What Is Your Favorite Pizza?"

Then post your favorite and it will be... otherwise you're simply
being rude... you must be Jew-Dee's twin sister.

On Oct 5, 4:54*pm, George Leppla > wrote:
>
>
> The only one in the new killfile right now is someone who continually
> top-posts. *Nothing against her content, but the style of posting just
> screws me up when I am trying to go through stuff quickly and since she
> is fairly prolific, it is a minor aggravation that I can easily avoid.
>
> George L
>
>
And figuring out her own brand of spelling is a head scratcher for
sure.

"Judy Haffner" > ha scritto nel messaggio
...
>
> Ranee wrote:
>
>>Judy, your cooking posts have been on
>> topic, mostly interesting and led to other
>> good cooking discussions. However, I
>> must warn you that by taking this
>> attitude, you may end up in many
>> people's killfiles. I don't need to see
>> ****ing matches between people here,
>> nor do I need to see vulgarity and
>> rudeness quoted repeatedly.
>
> That's all fine 'n' good advice, and I appreciate your feedback,
> BUT....I came to this group to discuss cooking, as that's what I
> understood the group to be about. correct me if I'm wrong? I did NOT
> join in and post, to be ridiculed and made fun of, called horrible names
> and bashed, as Brooklyn1 (and a couple others) have done repeatedly, and
> I will NOT tolerate such behavior. I shouldn't have to, but I also will
> not stand by quietly and be talked to that way, so if they want to play
> those "games" and personally attack me, they are not going to get away
> with it! I don't find it amusing in the least, and there is no reason
> that I should have to put up with it. I did not start anything, but I
> refuse to tolerate abuse without fighting back.

Then everyone who is sick to death of this from the past 20 years will
killfile you, too, since that will be the only road to avoiding them and
their poison.

In the inter-Judith discussion:

>> I did not start anything, but I refuse to tolerate abuse without fighting
>> back.
>
> Then everyone who is sick to death of this from the past 20 years will
> killfile you, too, since that will be the only road to avoiding them and
> their poison.

But it's possible to get back out at least some of those killfiles by
posting brilliantly every now and then. I mean, isn't that why you don't
currently have *me* killfiled?

I've been in and out of quite a few killfiles, and it doesn't bother me a
whit when people killfile me: Killfiling is the Usenet equivalent of
sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting "LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-I-CAN'T-
HEAR-YOU!" It's not MY loss when someone chooses to disable themselves in
that way. I cheerfully admit (as I always have in the past) that some people
are better off not reading what I write. In March I wrote this:

| It doesn't bother me to be in anybody's killfile. Lord knows I don't mince
| words, and some people are poor at handling the stress they feel when they
| read some of the things I write. For those people, ignorance might not be
| bliss, exactly, but it's a lot better than enlightenment."

ObFood: Reading _Bones_ by Jennifer McLagan, I ran across the recipe I've
already decided to make for Easter next year: Lamb neck with dill, peas, and
lettuce. It's a brothy dish and is served in wide bowls, meaning now I have
to craft a menu which will not result in each diner having his or her own
constellation of plates and bowls.

Bob

On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 02:59:16 -0700, "Bob Terwilliger"
> wrote:

>ObFood: Reading _Bones_ by Jennifer McLagan, I ran across the recipe I've
>already decided to make for Easter next year: Lamb neck with dill, peas, and
>lettuce. It's a brothy dish and is served in wide bowls, meaning now I have
>to craft a menu which will not result in each diner having his or her own
>constellation of plates and bowls.

How do you like that book?
I have her newest book on my wish list: Odd Bits, I think it is
called. I already have her book, Fat, and I really like it.

Christine

Christine asked:

>> ObFood: Reading _Bones_ by Jennifer McLagan, I ran across the recipe I've
>> already decided to make for Easter next year: Lamb neck with dill, peas,
>> and lettuce. It's a brothy dish and is served in wide bowls, meaning now
>> I have to craft a menu which will not result in each diner having his or
>> her own constellation of plates and bowls.
>
> How do you like that book?
> I have her newest book on my wish list: Odd Bits, I think it is
> called. I already have her book, Fat, and I really like it.

I like it a lot. _Fat_ didn't have as much to interest me, and I think that
_Odd Bits_ will be even less interesting, since nearly all the theme
ingredients are difficult to find.

I have a similar complaint about _The Complete Robuchon_: Sure, there are
*some* recipes in the book which don't call for ingredients I can't get. But
the entire seafood chapter is worthless to me, since every single dish
centers around some sea-creature which is only found in Mediterranean (or
rarely, Atlantic) waters.

Bob

On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 02:59:16 -0700, "Bob Terwilliger"
> wrote:

>ObFood: Reading _Bones_ by Jennifer McLagan, I ran across the recipe I've
>already decided to make for Easter next year: Lamb neck with dill, peas, and
>lettuce. It's a brothy dish and is served in wide bowls, meaning now I have
>to craft a menu which will not result in each diner having his or her own
>constellation of plates and bowls.
>

I've got that book too. I enjoyed the read.

Lou

"Giusi" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Judy Haffner" > ha scritto nel messaggio
> ...
>>
>> Ranee wrote:
>>
>>>Judy, your cooking posts have been on
>>> topic, mostly interesting and led to other
>>> good cooking discussions. However, I
>>> must warn you that by taking this
>>> attitude, you may end up in many
>>> people's killfiles. I don't need to see
>>> ****ing matches between people here,
>>> nor do I need to see vulgarity and
>>> rudeness quoted repeatedly.
>>
>> That's all fine 'n' good advice, and I appreciate your feedback,
>> BUT....I came to this group to discuss cooking, as that's what I
>> understood the group to be about. correct me if I'm wrong? I did NOT
>> join in and post, to be ridiculed and made fun of, called horrible names
>> and bashed, as Brooklyn1 (and a couple others) have done repeatedly, and
>> I will NOT tolerate such behavior. I shouldn't have to, but I also will
>> not stand by quietly and be talked to that way, so if they want to play
>> those "games" and personally attack me, they are not going to get away
>> with it! I don't find it amusing in the least, and there is no reason
>> that I should have to put up with it. I did not start anything, but I
>> refuse to tolerate abuse without fighting back.
>
> Then everyone who is sick to death of this from the past 20 years will
> killfile you, too, since that will be the only road to avoiding them and
> their poison.

Silence is golden ... eh, Guisi

--
http://www.shop.helpforheros.org.uk

Ranee wrote:

> That is exactly it. Many of us wouldn't see any of the obnoxious
> people or comments if they weren't quoted. To have someone go on a
> vengeance tear increases not only the noise to signal ratio here, but
> also our exposure to these characters to whom she objects so much.

You might consider a two-part filtering process: I download headers and mark
for reading those which are *candidates* for my perusal. Then I download the
messages themselves and BEFORE READING ANY OF THEM apply a second set of
filters which marks as read all posts which contain obnoxious phrases like
(for example), "Andy wrote".

Bob

My favorite pizza is chicken with cheese pizza with all the spices and sauce.

On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 08:32:37 -0800, (Judy Haffner)
wrote:

>
>George L wrote:
>
>>If you are smart enough to figure out
>> who the goof-balls are, why aren't you
>> smart enough to kill file them... or
>> ignore them? No, you like the battle and
>> you begin to add just as much "noise" to
>> the newsgroup as the people you are
>> fighting.
>
>Hi George!
>
>First off, I made my first post in here just little over 2 weeks ago,

And you didn't lurk long enough to figure this nuthouse out.

Lou

"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 08:32:37 -0800, (Judy Haffner)
> wrote:
>
>>
>>George L wrote:
>>
>>>If you are smart enough to figure out
>>> who the goof-balls are, why aren't you
>>> smart enough to kill file them... or
>>> ignore them? No, you like the battle and
>>> you begin to add just as much "noise" to
>>> the newsgroup as the people you are
>>> fighting.
>>
>>Hi George!
>>
>>First off, I made my first post in here just little over 2 weeks ago,
>
> And you didn't lurk long enough to figure this nuthouse out.

Ok so she didn't know to do that, so give her a break eh? I think she will
settle in and be ok



--
http://www.shop.helpforheros.org.uk

On Fri, 7 Oct 2011 22:45:17 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 08:32:37 -0800, (Judy Haffner)
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>George L wrote:
>>>
>>>>If you are smart enough to figure out
>>>> who the goof-balls are, why aren't you
>>>> smart enough to kill file them... or
>>>> ignore them? No, you like the battle and
>>>> you begin to add just as much "noise" to
>>>> the newsgroup as the people you are
>>>> fighting.
>>>
>>>Hi George!
>>>
>>>First off, I made my first post in here just little over 2 weeks ago,
>>
>> And you didn't lurk long enough to figure this nuthouse out.
>
>Ok so she didn't know to do that, so give her a break eh? I think she will
>settle in and be ok

Should have. She says she has participated in newsgroups for 6 years.

The one that's in the oven right now.

-Bob

but janet you gotta admit, this is a seemingly bening looking group on the
surface, Lee
"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
news
> On Fri, 7 Oct 2011 22:45:17 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 08:32:37 -0800, (Judy Haffner)
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>George L wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>If you are smart enough to figure out
>>>>> who the goof-balls are, why aren't you
>>>>> smart enough to kill file them... or
>>>>> ignore them? No, you like the battle and
>>>>> you begin to add just as much "noise" to
>>>>> the newsgroup as the people you are
>>>>> fighting.
>>>>
>>>>Hi George!
>>>>
>>>>First off, I made my first post in here just little over 2 weeks ago,
>>>
>>> And you didn't lurk long enough to figure this nuthouse out.
>>
>>Ok so she didn't know to do that, so give her a break eh? I think she
>>will
>>settle in and be ok
>
> Should have. She says she has participated in newsgroups for 6 years.

On Thu, 06 Oct 2011 03:50:22 -0700, Christine Dabney
> wrote:

>On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 02:59:16 -0700, "Bob Terwilliger"
> wrote:
>
>>ObFood: Reading _Bones_ by Jennifer McLagan, I ran across the recipe I've
>>already decided to make for Easter next year: Lamb neck with dill, peas, and
>>lettuce. It's a brothy dish and is served in wide bowls, meaning now I have
>>to craft a menu which will not result in each diner having his or her own
>>constellation of plates and bowls.
>
>How do you like that book?
>I have her newest book on my wish list: Odd Bits, I think it is
>called. I already have her book, Fat, and I really like it.
>
>Christine

I dug my Bones out and it's marked as an "uncorrected proof not for
sale." It came from a resale store and was probably a buck. I've
never seen a book marked that way.

Lou

On Fri, 07 Oct 2011 16:30:27 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

> Should have. She says she has participated in newsgroups for 6 years.

She's fine. I just wish she'd use a real news reader with a filter
and kill away. She can always take them out of the doghouse later.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

I like to eat pizza because they all are too delicious and gives different taste compared to others. My favorite pizza a Pepperoni Pizza, Hawiian, Mexican, Sicilian, Seafood, Californian, Extra Cheese, Chicago Style Pizza and Supreme Pizza.

My favorite pizza is Mexican spicy pizza it’s so delicious to eat.