http://i52.tinypic.com/2k1w9g.jpg

I have to wonder if this is why I am almost unable to walk. Seeing this
I even wonder if calcium, omega 3 oils and other supplements will even help.

On Oct 8, 12:20*am, Cheryl > wrote:
> http://i52.tinypic.com/2k1w9g.jpg
>
> I have to wonder if this is why I am almost unable to walk. Seeing this
> I even wonder if calcium, omega 3 oils and other supplements will even help.

I don't know enough to be uninterested. If it were me, I would wonder
about fusion or other surgery. I have stenosis in the same region, but
the symptoms aren't severe enough to prompt me to action. Whatever,
good luck.

Jerry
--
Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.

On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 00:20:32 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

> http://i52.tinypic.com/2k1w9g.jpg
>
> I have to wonder if this is why I am almost unable to walk. Seeing this
> I even wonder if calcium, omega 3 oils and other supplements will even help.

Ouch! Compressed disks. Have you ever wondered if that contraption
they show on TV (the one where you strap in your feet and hang upside
down like a bat) would help?

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
.com...
> http://i52.tinypic.com/2k1w9g.jpg
>
> I have to wonder if this is why I am almost unable to walk. Seeing this I
> even wonder if calcium, omega 3 oils and other supplements will even help.

Well, I don't even play a doctor on T.V., but do you have a radiologist
report saying what we are looking at here?

On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 00:20:32 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

>http://i52.tinypic.com/2k1w9g.jpg
>
>I have to wonder if this is why I am almost unable to walk. Seeing this
>I even wonder if calcium, omega 3 oils and other supplements will even help.

I have three herniated discs, stenosis, and arthritis. A series of
steroid injections worked for me... one a month for three months, no
more pain now for three years. At first I was apprehensive about
having the injections, that they would be painful, never felt a thing
and was over before I thought it began. Where do you live? Perhaps
where I was treated can make a recommendation where you live:
http://www.capitalregionneurosurgery.com/
Of course steriods have side effects, gave me a breast fetish and made
me horny 24/7! LOL

On Oct 7, 11:20*pm, Cheryl > wrote:
> http://i52.tinypic.com/2k1w9g.jpg
>
> I have to wonder if this is why I am almost unable to walk. Seeing this
> I even wonder if calcium, omega 3 oils and other supplements will even help.

Oh Cheryl, sorry. Try different things, maybe something will work, I
have had back surgery, spinal fusion, it made me feel better for
awhile then began having back troubles and pain again, Degenerating
disc disease, just slowly moves its way up... Recently have tried a
series of expensive steroid shots. They did not work, now am seeing an
acupuncturist, if I can get my back to where it does not hurt a lot I
will be satisfied. Try things , there are lots out there, but they
may or may not work/

If you have good ins, the shots may help, they tried the first ones on
me in July, did a shotgun approach, so maybe I could have a good trip
to Istanbul, nope. The bill scared me tho, 15K. The next ones were
centered on the areas they thought would help, and only cost a
couple of Thousand. No I did not have to pay, Ihave very good
insurance.

My point- try till you get worn out , then try to live with it.
Rosie

On 10/8/2011 12:32 AM, Jerry Avins wrote:
> On Oct 8, 12:20 am, > wrote:
>> http://i52.tinypic.com/2k1w9g.jpg
>>
>> I have to wonder if this is why I am almost unable to walk. Seeing this
>> I even wonder if calcium, omega 3 oils and other supplements will even help.
>
> I don't know enough to be uninterested. If it were me, I would wonder
> about fusion or other surgery. I have stenosis in the same region, but
> the symptoms aren't severe enough to prompt me to action. Whatever,
> good luck.

The surgeon didn't mention fusion for my back, though he did recommend
it for my big toe that had bone spurs removed last year and still isn't
better.

On 10/8/2011 1:20 AM, sf wrote:
> Ouch! Compressed disks. Have you ever wondered if that contraption
> they show on TV (the one where you strap in your feet and hang upside
> down like a bat) would help?
>

The dr prescribed PT again so I'm going to ask about that. I have a
massage chair that has a stretch setting that helps while I'm sitting in
it. Similar concept where it stretches the back while doing a percussion
type massage. The foot rest will grab my ankles while the back of the
chair reclines and moves me from a sitting to an almost horizontal
position and back again over and over.

On 10/8/2011 11:50 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:

> I have three herniated discs, stenosis, and arthritis. A series of
> steroid injections worked for me... one a month for three months, no
> more pain now for three years. At first I was apprehensive about
> having the injections, that they would be painful, never felt a thing
> and was over before I thought it began. Where do you live? Perhaps
> where I was treated can make a recommendation where you live:
> http://www.capitalregionneurosurgery.com/


Thanks for the link. My surgeon doesn't recommend steroids though I did
have a shot recently because I just couldn't take it anymore. He
recommended PT which I will start this week.

On 10/8/2011 1:29 PM, rosie wrote:

> Oh Cheryl, sorry. Try different things, maybe something will work, I
> have had back surgery, spinal fusion, it made me feel better for
> awhile then began having back troubles and pain again, Degenerating
> disc disease, just slowly moves its way up... Recently have tried a
> series of expensive steroid shots. They did not work, now am seeing an
> acupuncturist, if I can get my back to where it does not hurt a lot I
> will be satisfied. Try things , there are lots out there, but they
> may or may not work/
>
> If you have good ins, the shots may help, they tried the first ones on
> me in July, did a shotgun approach, so maybe I could have a good trip
> to Istanbul, nope. The bill scared me tho, 15K. The next ones were
> centered on the areas they thought would help, and only cost a
> couple of Thousand. No I did not have to pay, Ihave very good
> insurance.
>
I don't want surgery but as a last resort of course. I might have to ask
again about steroid shots because they really do help, but the dr said
steroids aren't good for your bones. I had a bone density test that was
normal, so maybe he'll reconsider.

> My point- try till you get worn out , then try to live with it.

*sigh*

On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 16:01:14 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

> The surgeon didn't mention fusion for my back, though he did recommend
> it for my big toe that had bone spurs removed last year and still isn't
> better.

My neighbor did that and was sorry after she did. You need toe
flexibility.
--

Never commit yourself to a cheese without having first examined it.
T.S. Eliot

On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 10:29:08 -0700 (PDT), rosie >
wrote:

>
> Oh Cheryl, sorry. Try different things, maybe something will work, I
> have had back surgery, spinal fusion, it made me feel better for
> awhile then began having back troubles and pain again, Degenerating
> disc disease, just slowly moves its way up... Recently have tried a
> series of expensive steroid shots. They did not work, now am seeing an
> acupuncturist, if I can get my back to where it does not hurt a lot I
> will be satisfied. Try things , there are lots out there, but they
> may or may not work/

Rosie, did you know that they can test your urine to see how well you
metabolize medications? My son in law was being prescribed big time
meds for pain and it didn't work for him. It turned out his body
wasn't metabolizing the meds, so he's in constant pain. I don't know
what the next step will be.
--

Never commit yourself to a cheese without having first examined it.
T.S. Eliot

On 10/8/2011 4:10 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 16:01:14 -0400, >
> wrote:
>
>> The surgeon didn't mention fusion for my back, though he did recommend
>> it for my big toe that had bone spurs removed last year and still isn't
>> better.
>
> My neighbor did that and was sorry after she did. You need toe
> flexibility.

Yes, I agree. I doubt I'll do it unless I just can't take the pain any
more. It hurts a lot, but I don't think bad enough for that yet.

On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 16:05:44 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

>On 10/8/2011 11:50 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> I have three herniated discs, stenosis, and arthritis. A series of
>> steroid injections worked for me... one a month for three months, no
>> more pain now for three years. At first I was apprehensive about
>> having the injections, that they would be painful, never felt a thing
>> and was over before I thought it began. Where do you live? Perhaps
>> where I was treated can make a recommendation where you live:
>> http://www.capitalregionneurosurgery.com/
>
>
>Thanks for the link. My surgeon doesn't recommend steroids

Surgeons never recommend anything other than surgery, why would they,
they're cut men/women. If I didn't have insurance my shots would have
cost $900, but I did have insurance so my co-pay amounted to less then
$50 for the entire three session procedure. But I didn'nt care about
the cost, it was the results that mattered and my result was
excellent. The doctor on my job told me that back surgery is the very
worst choice. I'm very glad I didn't opt for surgery, now 15 years
later my back is in pretty good shape, and I know my limitations, not
to do heavy lifting... I don't dig any more to plant large trees, I
pay to have that done. Overdoing physical work is what messed up my
back in the first place.

On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 16:08:00 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

>On 10/8/2011 1:29 PM, rosie wrote:
>
>> Oh Cheryl, sorry. Try different things, maybe something will work, I
>> have had back surgery, spinal fusion, it made me feel better for
>> awhile then began having back troubles and pain again, Degenerating
>> disc disease, just slowly moves its way up... Recently have tried a
>> series of expensive steroid shots. They did not work, now am seeing an
>> acupuncturist, if I can get my back to where it does not hurt a lot I
>> will be satisfied. Try things , there are lots out there, but they
>> may or may not work/
>>
>> If you have good ins, the shots may help, they tried the first ones on
>> me in July, did a shotgun approach, so maybe I could have a good trip
>> to Istanbul, nope. The bill scared me tho, 15K. The next ones were
>> centered on the areas they thought would help, and only cost a
>> couple of Thousand. No I did not have to pay, Ihave very good
>> insurance.
>>
>I don't want surgery but as a last resort of course. I might have to ask
>again about steroid shots because they really do help, but the dr said
>steroids aren't good for your bones.

Didn't negatively affect my bone... here, feel! LOL

Don't worry about bone density, first fix your back.
I spent all day today doing my last mowing and a whole bunch of other
chores to prepare for winter that required lots of walking on uneven
ground, my back doesn't hurt at all... I'm sweaty and tired, my feet
hurt, but my back is fine. Those shots are like a miracle.

On 10/8/2011 6:51 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:

> Don't worry about bone density, first fix your back.
> I spent all day today doing my last mowing and a whole bunch of other
> chores to prepare for winter that required lots of walking on uneven
> ground, my back doesn't hurt at all... I'm sweaty and tired, my feet
> hurt, but my back is fine. Those shots are like a miracle.

That's great! I have so much work to do outside and even standing around
today without really getting to sit down was making my leg go numb. I
have 65 pavers that have to be installed around the outside screened in
porch I had built for my cats to go outside. I can't get them from the
driveway to the backyard. I have a tractor with a cart but I have to
get them down a hill and I won't even try to fill up the cart and go
downhill with the tractor. I have a feeling the cart would want to be
in front instead of behind the tractor.

Cheryl > wrote in news:4e90b30a$0$28637$a8266bb1
@newsreader.readnews.com:

> On 10/8/2011 4:10 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 16:01:14 -0400, >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The surgeon didn't mention fusion for my back, though he did recommend
>>> it for my big toe that had bone spurs removed last year and still isn't
>>> better.
>>
>> My neighbor did that and was sorry after she did. You need toe
>> flexibility.
>
> Yes, I agree. I doubt I'll do it unless I just can't take the pain any
> more. It hurts a lot, but I don't think bad enough for that yet.
>


I've had two toes fused, the big toe and the one next to it. Also had the
top amputated off the 2nd one.

Flexibility is not a consideration. Unless you're a ballerina.

I was running 5k's in about 18mins a couple of years after the
fusion/amputation. (As a 32yo)

And I still have no problems with them.

In article >,
bane says...
>
> Cheryl > wrote in news:4e90b30a$0$28637$a8266bb1
> @newsreader.readnews.com:
>
> > On 10/8/2011 4:10 PM, sf wrote:
> >> On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 16:01:14 -0400, >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> The surgeon didn't mention fusion for my back, though he did recommend
> >>> it for my big toe that had bone spurs removed last year and still isn't
> >>> better.
> >>
> >> My neighbor did that and was sorry after she did. You need toe
> >> flexibility.
> >
> > Yes, I agree. I doubt I'll do it unless I just can't take the pain any
> > more. It hurts a lot, but I don't think bad enough for that yet.
> >
>
>
> I've had two toes fused, the big toe and the one next to it. Also had the
> top amputated off the 2nd one.
>
> Flexibility is not a consideration. Unless you're a ballerina.

Or a magician. Houdini was able to untie tight knots with his toes.

> I was running 5k's in about 18mins a couple of years after the
> fusion/amputation. (As a 32yo)
>
> And I still have no problems with them.

On 10/9/2011 10:02 AM, Omelet wrote:

>> The dr prescribed PT again so I'm going to ask about that. I have a
>> > massage chair that has a stretch setting that helps while I'm sitting in
>> > it. Similar concept where it stretches the back while doing a percussion
>> > type massage. The foot rest will grab my ankles while the back of the
>> > chair reclines and moves me from a sitting to an almost horizontal
>> > position and back again over and over.

> Sounds like a home traction item? Traction for the spine is always a
> good thing.:-) I get it weekly for my cervical spine.

This is just like my chair but mine doesn't have heat. If I want heat I
can use a heating pad with it. There's a demo video on that page. Also,
mine is refurbished, not new.

http://www.humantouch.com/ht-7120.html

On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 12:57:39 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

>In article >,
> Cheryl > wrote:
>
>> On 10/9/2011 10:02 AM, Omelet wrote:
>>
>> >> The dr prescribed PT again so I'm going to ask about that. I have a
>> >> > massage chair that has a stretch setting that helps while I'm sitting in
>> >> > it. Similar concept where it stretches the back while doing a percussion
>> >> > type massage. The foot rest will grab my ankles while the back of the
>> >> > chair reclines and moves me from a sitting to an almost horizontal
>> >> > position and back again over and over.
>>
>> > Sounds like a home traction item? Traction for the spine is always a
>> > good thing.:-) I get it weekly for my cervical spine.
>>
>> This is just like my chair but mine doesn't have heat. If I want heat I
>> can use a heating pad with it. There's a demo video on that page. Also,
>> mine is refurbished, not new.
>>
>> http://www.humantouch.com/ht-7120.html
>
>Thanks for digging up that info. :-) Right now, I don't have somewhere
>to put something like that where there would be sufficient space, but
>it's good for future consideration.

Wow, at that price she had better have big tits. LOL

On Oct 9, 10:02*am, Omelet > wrote:
> In article >,
>
> *Cheryl > wrote:
> > On 10/8/2011 1:20 AM, sf wrote:
> > > Ouch! *Compressed disks. *Have you ever wondered if that contraption
> > > they show on TV (the one where you strap in your feet and hang upside
> > > down like a bat) would help?
>
> > The dr prescribed PT again so I'm going to ask about that. *I have a
> > massage chair that has a stretch setting that helps while I'm sitting in
> > it. Similar concept where it stretches the back while doing a percussion
> > type massage. *The foot rest will grab my ankles while the back of the
> > chair reclines and moves me from a sitting to an almost horizontal
> > position and back again over and over.
>
> Sounds like a home traction item? *Traction for the spine is always a
> good thing. :-) *I get it weekly for my cervical spine.
> --
> Peace, Om
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>
> "Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have
> come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first."
> * * * * ** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-- Mark Twain

Checkout the 'Hangups' inversion table. Sturdily made, relaxing if
nothing else. Takes up some room tho - you need to have a spot where
it can remain setup.