I wanna make potatoes au gratin for potluck, today. No milk in house
except 12 oz can of evap milk. Jes how evaporated is it? Will 12 oz
of evap stretch to 16 oz of reg milk?

nb

On Oct 13, 10:34*am, notbob > wrote:
> I wanna make potatoes au gratin for potluck, today. *No milk in house
> except 12 oz can of evap milk. *Jes how evaporated is it? *Will 12 oz
> of evap stretch to 16 oz of reg milk?
>
> nb

Have you tried reading the label?

On Oct 13, 10:39*am, merryb > wrote:
> On Oct 13, 10:34*am, notbob > wrote:
>
> > I wanna make potatoes au gratin for potluck, today. *No milk in house
> > except 12 oz can of evap milk. *Jes how evaporated is it? *Will 12 oz
> > of evap stretch to 16 oz of reg milk?
>
> > nb
>
> Have you tried reading the label?

Sorry to reply to my own post, but apparently you didn't see it or
chose to ignore it. Read the freaking label! When all else fails...

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 21:12:25 -0700 (PDT), merryb >
wrote:

> On Oct 13, 10:39*am, merryb > wrote:
> > On Oct 13, 10:34*am, notbob > wrote:
> >
> > > I wanna make potatoes au gratin for potluck, today. *No milk in house
> > > except 12 oz can of evap milk. *Jes how evaporated is it? *Will 12 oz
> > > of evap stretch to 16 oz of reg milk?
> >
> > > nb
> >
> > Have you tried reading the label?
>
> Sorry to reply to my own post, but apparently you didn't see it or
> chose to ignore it. Read the freaking label! When all else fails...

Any woman who stands up to his crap goes into his kill file. So if
you've ever disagreed with him, even mildly - you're there.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On Oct 13, 9:45*pm, sf > wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 21:12:25 -0700 (PDT), merryb >
> wrote:
>
> > On Oct 13, 10:39*am, merryb > wrote:
> > > On Oct 13, 10:34*am, notbob > wrote:
>
> > > > I wanna make potatoes au gratin for potluck, today. *No milk in house
> > > > except 12 oz can of evap milk. *Jes how evaporated is it? *Will 12 oz
> > > > of evap stretch to 16 oz of reg milk?
>
> > > > nb
>
> > > Have you tried reading the label?
>
> > Sorry to reply to my own post, but apparently you didn't see it or
> > chose to ignore it. Read the freaking label! When all else fails...
>
> Any woman who stands up to his crap goes into his kill file. *So if
> you've ever disagreed with him, even mildly - you're there.
>
> --
> All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

Ahhh, that must be it! His loss

"notbob" > wrote in message
...
>I wanna make potatoes au gratin for potluck, today. No milk in house
> except 12 oz can of evap milk. Jes how evaporated is it? Will 12 oz
> of evap stretch to 16 oz of reg milk?
>
> nb


Easily. It's not called the "cooking milk" for nothing.

Cheri

On Oct 13, 10:34*am, notbob > wrote:
> I wanna make potatoes au gratin for potluck, today. *No milk in house
> except 12 oz can of evap milk. *Jes how evaporated is it? *Will 12 oz
> of evap stretch to 16 oz of reg milk?
>
> nb


I cook once a week for the congregation at my synagogue. I keep
evaporated milk on hand rather than whole milk, because it's easier to
store and doesn't require refrigeration. Works great for cooked/baked
dishes; just mix one to one & you'll be fine.

Harriet & critters in hot, hot azusa.

"notbob" > wrote in message
...
>I wanna make potatoes au gratin for potluck, today. No milk in house
> except 12 oz can of evap milk. Jes how evaporated is it? Will 12 oz
> of evap stretch to 16 oz of reg milk?
>
> nb
>
>
http://www.foodsubs.com/Dairyoth.html

On 13 Oct 2011 17:34:58 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>I wanna make potatoes au gratin for potluck, today. No milk in house
>except 12 oz can of evap milk. Jes how evaporated is it? Will 12 oz
>of evap stretch to 16 oz of reg milk?
>
>nb
>
Yes it will. I would add something like Dijon mustard to kill the
taste and the smell of it though.
Janet US

On 2011-10-13, Janet Bostwick > wrote:

> Yes it will. I would add something like Dijon mustard to kill the
> taste and the smell of it though.

Oooh! ....great idea. I was thinking of additions to pep it up. I
have some Coleman's mustard pwdr. I'm seeing a dash of cayenne, too.

nb

On Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:07:25 PM UTC-6, notbob wrote:
> On 2011-10-13, Janet Bostwick > wrote:
>
> > Yes it will. I would add something like Dijon mustard to kill the
> > taste and the smell of it though.
>
> Oooh! ....great idea. I was thinking of additions to pep it up. I
> have some Coleman's mustard pwdr. I'm seeing a dash of cayenne, too.
>
> nb

Careful or your potatoes au gratin will end up smelling and looking like mustard plaster.

On 2011-10-13, Roy > wrote:

> Careful or your potatoes au gratin will end up smelling and looking
> like mustard plaster.

We'll see. I used about 1 tsp mstrd pwdr to 8oz cheese + 2 C milk.

nb

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:31:43 -0700 (PDT), Roy >
wrote:

>On Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:07:25 PM UTC-6, notbob wrote:
>> On 2011-10-13, Janet Bostwick > wrote:
>>
>> > Yes it will. I would add something like Dijon mustard to kill the
>> > taste and the smell of it though.
>>
>> Oooh! ....great idea. I was thinking of additions to pep it up. I
>> have some Coleman's mustard pwdr. I'm seeing a dash of cayenne, too.
>>
>> nb
>
>Careful or your potatoes au gratin will end up smelling and looking like mustard plaster.

May as well add a spoonful of Musterole in place of butter.

On 10/13/2011 10:04 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> On 13 Oct 2011 17:34:58 GMT, > wrote:
>
>> I wanna make potatoes au gratin for potluck, today. No milk in house
>> except 12 oz can of evap milk. Jes how evaporated is it? Will 12 oz
>> of evap stretch to 16 oz of reg milk?
>>
>> nb
>>
> Yes it will. I would add something like Dijon mustard to kill the
> taste and the smell of it though.
> Janet US


I used to like it in coffee but won't use it any more because the high
amount of lactose in it gives me a tummy ache.

As it goes, a generation of Americans who had readily available
refrigeration and/or fresh milk will probably view it as a second-rate
product. Most of the rest of the world won't have the objections to it
as we do.

On Thursday, October 13, 2011 3:52:20 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On 10/13/2011 10:04 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> > On 13 Oct 2011 17:34:58 GMT, > wrote:
> >
> >> I wanna make potatoes au gratin for potluck, today. No milk in house
> >> except 12 oz can of evap milk. Jes how evaporated is it? Will 12 oz
> >> of evap stretch to 16 oz of reg milk?
> >>
> >> nb
> >>
> > Yes it will. I would add something like Dijon mustard to kill the
> > taste and the smell of it though.
> > Janet US
>
>
> I used to like it in coffee but won't use it any more because the high
> amount of lactose in it gives me a tummy ache.
>
> As it goes, a generation of Americans who had readily available
> refrigeration and/or fresh milk will probably view it as a second-rate
> product. Most of the rest of the world won't have the objections to it
> as we do.

It is "second rate" at best. As you said, we have refrigerators. Real, fresh milk is under $4/gallon. Canned milk is like instant coffee or RealLemon.

--Bryan

On Oct 14, 4:10*am, Bryan > wrote:
> On Thursday, October 13, 2011 3:52:20 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > On 10/13/2011 10:04 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> > > On 13 Oct 2011 17:34:58 GMT, > *wrote:
>
> > >> I wanna make potatoes au gratin for potluck, today. *No milk in house
> > >> except 12 oz can of evap milk. *Jes how evaporated is it? *Will 12 oz
> > >> of evap stretch to 16 oz of reg milk?
>
> > >> nb
>
> > > Yes it will. *I would add something like Dijon mustard to kill the
> > > taste and the smell of it though.
> > > Janet US
>
> > I used to like it in coffee but won't use it any more because the high
> > amount of lactose in it gives me a tummy ache.
>
> > As it goes, a generation of Americans who had readily available
> > refrigeration and/or fresh milk will probably view it as a second-rate
> > product. Most of the rest of the world won't have the objections to it
> > as we do.
>
> It is "second rate" at best. *As you said, we have refrigerators. *Real, fresh milk is under $4/gallon. Canned milk is like instant coffee or RealLemon.
>

Instant coffee is ideal for adding coffee flavor to baked goods, as in
tiramisu. And I could never make quiche that didn't end up all runny
using fresh milk, or the half and half called for in most recipes.

On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 08:43:11 -0700 (PDT), spamtrap1888
> wrote:

>On Oct 14, 4:10*am, Bryan > wrote:
>> On Thursday, October 13, 2011 3:52:20 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>> > On 10/13/2011 10:04 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>> > > On 13 Oct 2011 17:34:58 GMT, > *wrote:
>>
>> > >> I wanna make potatoes au gratin for potluck, today. *No milk in house
>> > >> except 12 oz can of evap milk. *Jes how evaporated is it? *Will 12 oz
>> > >> of evap stretch to 16 oz of reg milk?
>>
>> > >> nb
>>
>> > > Yes it will. *I would add something like Dijon mustard to kill the
>> > > taste and the smell of it though.
>> > > Janet US
>>
>> > I used to like it in coffee but won't use it any more because the high
>> > amount of lactose in it gives me a tummy ache.
>>
>> > As it goes, a generation of Americans who had readily available
>> > refrigeration and/or fresh milk will probably view it as a second-rate
>> > product. Most of the rest of the world won't have the objections to it
>> > as we do.
>>
>> It is "second rate" at best. *As you said, we have refrigerators. *Real, fresh milk is under $4/gallon. Canned milk is like instant coffee or RealLemon.
>>
>
>Instant coffee is ideal for adding coffee flavor to baked goods, as in
>tiramisu. And I could never make quiche that didn't end up all runny
>using fresh milk, or the half and half called for in most recipes.

Don't pay any attention to Bwrrryan... what he knows about cooking
wouldn't fill a thimble. I've seen some of his pig slop
presentations, makes a four year old's finger painting look like the
great masters.

On 10/14/2011 1:10 AM, Bryan wrote:
>
> It is "second rate" at best. As you said, we have refrigerators. Real, fresh milk is under $4/gallon. Canned milk is like instant coffee or RealLemon.
>
> --Bryan

I don't see how evaporated milk could be considered second rate if it's
used to make tres leches cake which is not a second rate food. I don't
really hold fresh milk in that high a regard since the idea of drinking
it makes my stomach churn. Mostly it's slightly toxic. Tres leches cake
is toxic too but what a way to go.

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:04:02 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

>On 13 Oct 2011 17:34:58 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
>>I wanna make potatoes au gratin for potluck, today. No milk in house
>>except 12 oz can of evap milk. Jes how evaporated is it? Will 12 oz
>>of evap stretch to 16 oz of reg milk?
>>
>>nb
>>
>Yes it will. I would add something like Dijon mustard to kill the
>taste and the smell of it though.
>Janet US

I've never noticed that evap has a disagreeable odor, I happen to like
that mammory scent. For many years I drank coffee with evap... I
never liked coffee with regular milk or cream. For the last 20 years
I've been drinking coffee black.

On Oct 14, 8:02*am, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:04:02 -0600, Janet Bostwick
>
> > wrote:
> >On 13 Oct 2011 17:34:58 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
> >>I wanna make potatoes au gratin for potluck, today. *No milk in house
> >>except 12 oz can of evap milk. *Jes how evaporated is it? *Will 12 oz
> >>of evap stretch to 16 oz of reg milk?
>
> >>nb
>
> >Yes it will. *I would add something like Dijon mustard to kill the
> >taste and the smell of it though.
> >Janet US
>
> I've never noticed that evap has a disagreeable odor, I happen to like
> that mammory scent. *For many years I drank coffee with evap... I
> never liked coffee with regular milk or cream. *For the last 20 years
> I've been drinking coffee black.

I've had cream with my coffee for years, but recently the smell
bothers me, no matter how fresh the cream is. I made a big pot of NE
clam chowder last week with milk, and got really bad heartburn that
evening. I'm wondering if one can become lactose intolerant as they
get older? Like you, I can't remember the last time I had a glass of
milk...

On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 08:15:09 -0700 (PDT), merryb >
wrote:

>On Oct 14, 8:02*am, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>> On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:04:02 -0600, Janet Bostwick
>>
>> > wrote:
>> >On 13 Oct 2011 17:34:58 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>>
>> >>I wanna make potatoes au gratin for potluck, today. *No milk in house
>> >>except 12 oz can of evap milk. *Jes how evaporated is it? *Will 12 oz
>> >>of evap stretch to 16 oz of reg milk?
>>
>> >>nb
>>
>> >Yes it will. *I would add something like Dijon mustard to kill the
>> >taste and the smell of it though.
>> >Janet US
>>
>> I've never noticed that evap has a disagreeable odor, I happen to like
>> that mammory scent. *For many years I drank coffee with evap... I
>> never liked coffee with regular milk or cream. *For the last 20 years
>> I've been drinking coffee black.
>
>I've had cream with my coffee for years, but recently the smell
>bothers me, no matter how fresh the cream is. I made a big pot of NE
>clam chowder last week with milk, and got really bad heartburn that
>evening. I'm wondering if one can become lactose intolerant as they
>get older? Like you, I can't remember the last time I had a glass of
>milk...

I only buy regular milk for a specific recipe. Otherwise I buy evap
by the case. Evap doesn't spoil, even after a can is opened it keeps
well in the fridge for at least a month.

On 10/14/2011 1:08 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> I only buy regular milk for a specific recipe. Otherwise I buy evap
> by the case. Evap doesn't spoil, even after a can is opened it keeps
> well in the fridge for at least a month.

Same here, I only buy milk for recipes. I keep evap milk in my pantry,
and dried buttermilk.

Becca

On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 10:59:24 -0500, Andy > wrote:

>Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:04:02 -0600, Janet Bostwick
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>On 13 Oct 2011 17:34:58 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>>>
>>>>I wanna make potatoes au gratin for potluck, today. No milk in house
>>>>except 12 oz can of evap milk. Jes how evaporated is it? Will 12 oz
>>>>of evap stretch to 16 oz of reg milk?
>>>>
>>>>nb
>>>>
>>>Yes it will. I would add something like Dijon mustard to kill the
>>>taste and the smell of it though.
>>>Janet US
>>
>> I've never noticed that evap has a disagreeable odor, I happen to like
>> that mammory scent. For many years I drank coffee with evap... I
>> never liked coffee with regular milk or cream. For the last 20 years
>> I've been drinking coffee black.
>
>
>One thing about evaporated milk is the process evaporates out water and
>as a result it becomes noticeably sweeter since the milk sugar doesn't
>evaporate.
>
>I used it in my breakfast cereal which added just the right amount of
>sweetness to my cheerios.
>
>I don't know if you want that sweet flavor in potatoes au gratin. That
>and it could evaporate even more in the oven, making it taste
>perceptively sweeter still. Or not.

I don't make many dishes that call for milk/cream... mostly I use milk
for baking and a cake is never adversely affected by that bit of extra
sweetness. My cats take care of any extra evap... all I have to do is
open a can and they are right there mooching.

On 10/13/2011 10:04 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> On 13 Oct 2011 17:34:58 GMT, > wrote:
>
>> I wanna make potatoes au gratin for potluck, today. No milk in house
>> except 12 oz can of evap milk. Jes how evaporated is it? Will 12 oz
>> of evap stretch to 16 oz of reg milk?
>>
>> nb
>>
> Yes it will. I would add something like Dijon mustard to kill the
> taste and the smell of it though.
> Janet US

Mustard is my latest secret ingredient. I use a very small amount with
the idea of keeping it under the level of perception. That small amount
brings a lot to the table. Mustard, it's great!

In article >,
notbob > wrote:

> I wanna make potatoes au gratin for potluck, today. No milk in house
> except 12 oz can of evap milk. Jes how evaporated is it? Will 12 oz
> of evap stretch to 16 oz of reg milk?
>
> nb

Yes, that would work. I actually use it straight when I make macaroni
and cheese and it's perfect for that.

D.M.

"Don Martinich" <>
> Yes, that would work. I actually use it straight when I make macaroni
> and cheese and it's perfect for that.
>
> D.M.

In my quest to take as much fat as possible out of my cooking, I keep
fat-free evaporated milk on hand. Sometimes, it works as well as; sometimes
not. So far, I haven't produced a mustard plaster but there have been a few
dishes that weren't quite as stable as I had hoped. Nobody died and none
had to be tossed out. Polly

On Oct 13, 1:34*pm, notbob > wrote:
> I wanna make potatoes au gratin for potluck, today. *No milk in house
> except 12 oz can of evap milk. *Jes how evaporated is it? *Will 12 oz
> of evap stretch to 16 oz of reg milk?
>
> nb

Just use evapMilk as though it were regular milk. You will have some
great potatoes.

But it tastes like crap.

--Bryan

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 11:02:43 -0700 (PDT), Bryan wrote:

> But it tastes like crap.
>
> --Bryan

he's not asking you to dinner, bobo.

blake

On Thursday, October 13, 2011 1:44:11 PM UTC-5, blake murphy wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 11:02:43 -0700 (PDT), Bryan wrote:
>
> > But it tastes like crap.
> >
> > --Bryan
>
> he's not asking you to dinner, bobo.

Why would I want dinner prepared by someone with such low standards that they'd use canned milk in mashed potatoes?
>
> blake

--Bryan

Bwrrrrryan wrote:
>
>But it tastes like crap.

Naturally faggots wouldn't like breast milk.

On Thursday, October 13, 2011 5:19:25 PM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Bwrrrrryan wrote:
> >
> >But it tastes like crap.
>
> Naturally faggots wouldn't like breast milk.

You just *wish* I was *** because my mugshot on the rfc site gets you turned on.

--Bryan

"l, not -l" > wrote in message
...
>
> On 13-Oct-2011, notbob > wrote:
>
>> I wanna make potatoes au gratin for potluck, today. No milk in house
>> except 12 oz can of evap milk. Jes how evaporated is it? Will 12 oz
>> of evap stretch to 16 oz of reg milk?
>>
>> nb
>
> Evaporated milk is roughly 60% of the volume of regular milk; to
> substitute
> in your recipe add 8 oz of water to the 12 oz of evap. milk. You'll have
> the equivalent of 16 oz of milk for your recipe and 4 oz left-over. Or
> add
> enough water to make it 16 oz and it will be a bit richer than regulary
> milk.

I love evaporated milk for cooking.

Cheri

On 2011-10-13, Cheri > wrote:

> I love evaporated milk for cooking.

While I'm trying to become more veganish, I still have some cheese. Hence
the au gratin dish. Anyone try soy or almond milk for a bechemel?

I've discovered I love almond milk and it's not that expensive. A qt
of almond milk is not much more expensive than reg milk and it
keeps longer, too.

nb

notbob wrote:
>
> On 2011-10-13, Cheri > wrote:
>
> > I love evaporated milk for cooking.
>
> While I'm trying to become more veganish, I still have some cheese. Hence
> the au gratin dish. Anyone try soy or almond milk for a bechemel?

Going to give up butter too? That's where
many would-be vegans falter. Living butter-free
is the first step that really requires you to say
you'd rather live by your principles rather than
eat what's yummy.

"Mark Thorson" > wrote in message
...
> notbob wrote:
>>
>> On 2011-10-13, Cheri > wrote:
>>
>> > I love evaporated milk for cooking.
>>
>> While I'm trying to become more veganish, I still have some cheese.
>> Hence
>> the au gratin dish. Anyone try soy or almond milk for a bechemel?
>
> Going to give up butter too? That's where
> many would-be vegans falter. Living butter-free
> is the first step that really requires you to say
> you'd rather live by your principles rather than
> eat what's yummy.

Codswallop!!!

--
http://www.shop.helpforheros.org.uk

On 2011-10-13, Ophelia > wrote:

> "Mark Thorson" > wrote in message

>> Going to give up butter too? That's where
>> many would-be vegans falter. Living butter-free
>> is the first step that really requires you to say
>> you'd rather live by your principles rather than
>> eat what's yummy.

Already have. Been using margerine. Used it in the au gratin despite
having about 3 lbs of butter in freezer. One step at a time.

> Codswallop!!!

Nonsense. Easy as kiss my hand! (love that Limey lingo)


We'll see. I jes popped it into the oven.

nb

Ophelia wrote:
> "Mark Thorson" > wrote:
>
>> Going to give up butter too?

It does make some amount of sense to work through the ingredients
currently in your cupboard but only replace them with ones that satisfy
your new expectations as long as you're in no hurry.

>> That's where
>> many would-be vegans falter. Living butter-free
>> is the first step that really requires you to say
>> you'd rather live by your principles rather than
>> eat what's yummy.

Because olive other oils are disgusting? Not to me.

> Codswallop!!!

Fish aren't vegan"ish" Or are they? ;^) I've heard some people assert
they are vegetarians because they eat chicken and fish but not red meat.
Maybe a vegan"ish" will decline to eat land meat and air meat but will
still eat codswallop and other mythical critters!

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:24:58 -0800, Mark Thorson >
wrote:

> notbob wrote:
> >
> > On 2011-10-13, Cheri > wrote:
> >
> > > I love evaporated milk for cooking.
> >
> > While I'm trying to become more veganish, I still have some cheese. Hence
> > the au gratin dish. Anyone try soy or almond milk for a bechemel?
>
> Going to give up butter too? That's where
> many would-be vegans falter. Living butter-free
> is the first step that really requires you to say
> you'd rather live by your principles rather than
> eat what's yummy.

He's not going vegan, he's *veganish*. I can dig it.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On 10/13/2011 11:24 AM, Mark Thorson wrote:
> notbob wrote:
>>
>> On 2011-10-13, > wrote:
>>
>>> I love evaporated milk for cooking.
>>
>> While I'm trying to become more veganish, I still have some cheese. Hence
>> the au gratin dish. Anyone try soy or almond milk for a bechemel?
>
> Going to give up butter too? That's where
> many would-be vegans falter. Living butter-free
> is the first step that really requires you to say
> you'd rather live by your principles rather than
> eat what's yummy.

Living by your principals always involves sacrifice. OTOH, like Groucho
said "Those are my principles, and if you don't like them… well, I have
others. ..."