On Oct 26, 1:36*am, "Storrmmee" > wrote:
> and you have the medical trainning to diagnose her from news groups
> postings, I am impressed, Lee"merryb" > wrote in message
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> On Oct 23, 2:34 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
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> > "Storrmmee" > wrote in message
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> > > along with everyone's ailments these are probably the top three. I guess
> > > as i thought about this, i really don't care to always share medical
> > > info
> > > about myself, not only because i really don't want to hear other's
> > > stories, it really is private information, and having to answer/try to
> > > not
> > > answer question takes the fun out of the party... Lee
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> > I would far rather hear about medial stuff or diets than I would sports,
> > cars, makeup, baby diaper stuff, the weather and plenty of other things
> > people talk about that I think are boring. I think some medical stuff is
> > interesting.
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> That is because you are a hypochondriac...

Not a real doctor, but played one on TV

once i got on this quest i have learned a lot, most important to me, for me
and my lifestyle is what carby foods affect me more or less, a banana which
most diabetics a lot, bothers me very little, Lee
"Dan Abel" > wrote in message
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> In article >,
> "Storrmmee" > wrote:
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>> no i am not diabetic, i am hypoglycimic but i have a brother who is very
>> unstable in his levels and with the family history i am working slower
>> than
>> i would like to a less carby lifestyle, i choose my carbs very carefully
>> now, that was step one for me, step 2 is reducing the requency with which
>> i
>> eat carbs,
>> step 3 has been never eating just a carb without fat or protien,
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> Some people think that carbs are evil for diabetics. They aren't. They
> are the mainstay of the diet. Humans are omnivores. But since the
> diabetic's body doesn't regulate the insulin correctly, the diet has to
> be carefully controlled, especially the carbs. You can't just eat what
> you want, and let your body deal with it. That can cause spikes (and
> valleys) for diabetics. There are many ways to deal with this. One is
> by *increasing* the frequency of eating carbs. My uncle was on a diet
> where he ate six meals a day. He only needed one dose of insulin per
> day. That worked well for awhile. Now he's back to eating one main
> meal and other smaller meals. He takes two different doses of insulin
> each day now. Eating fat or protein (or fiber) with a carb is a way of
> slowing the rise in blood sugar, so you can go longer between meals.
>
>> "Janet" > wrote in message
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>> > Storrmmee wrote:
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>> >> this, i love oatmeal raisin cookies, not good for me in general, so
>> >> when we are at a buffett i eat one or two depending n size because i
>> >> get to taste them without having them in the house, Lee
>> >
>> > Are you on insulin? If so, you can cover your excess carb consumption.
>> > I
>> > can't imagine eating a cookie.
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> In general, I would have to say that was bad medical advice. If a
> diabetic is on that sort of program already, then they know how to
> handle this. If they aren't, then they shouldn't change their program
> without consulting with their medical person FIRST. I am on a fixed
> dose insulin program. I cannot change my insulin dose based on what I
> eat, only on 2-3 days worth of blood sugar readings. I have been on
> this program for five years. My doctor has told me (threatened me?)
> that if I am unable to maintain my blood sugar well on this program, I
> will be switched to a program where I vary my insulin dosage for each
> meal. For starters, this means that I will go from a twice a day
> injection to FOUR times a day. Not fun. In addition, insulin is always
> taken BEFORE the food, so I would have to determine exactly how much I
> will be eating (including how many carbs), and calculate the insulin
> dose before I eat. Sneaking an extra cookie is not on the program.
>
> --
> Dan Abel
> Petaluma, California USA
>

I am NOT diabetic and take no meds for it, i am trying to eat healtheir over
all and avoid the peaks and vallys of hypoglicmia... my brother is on the
shoot before eating, and while it means shooting more often it so far has
helped him the best in staying stable, Lee
"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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> Dan Abel wrote:
>> In article >,
>> "Storrmmee" > wrote:
>>
>>> no i am not diabetic, i am hypoglycimic but i have a brother who is
>>> very unstable in his levels and with the family history i am working
>>> slower than i would like to a less carby lifestyle, i choose my
>>> carbs very carefully now, that was step one for me, step 2 is
>>> reducing the requency with which i eat carbs,
>>> step 3 has been never eating just a carb without fat or protien,
>>
>> Some people think that carbs are evil for diabetics. They aren't.
>> They are the mainstay of the diet. Humans are omnivores. But since
>> the diabetic's body doesn't regulate the insulin correctly, the diet
>> has to be carefully controlled, especially the carbs. You can't just
>> eat what you want, and let your body deal with it. That can cause
>> spikes (and valleys) for diabetics. There are many ways to deal with
>> this. One is by *increasing* the frequency of eating carbs. My
>> uncle was on a diet where he ate six meals a day. He only needed one
>> dose of insulin per day. That worked well for awhile. Now he's back
>> to eating one main meal and other smaller meals. He takes two
>> different doses of insulin each day now. Eating fat or protein (or
>> fiber) with a carb is a way of slowing the rise in blood sugar, so
>> you can go longer between meals.
>>
>>> "Janet" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Storrmmee wrote:
>>
>>>>> this, i love oatmeal raisin cookies, not good for me in general, so
>>>>> when we are at a buffett i eat one or two depending n size because
>>>>> i get to taste them without having them in the house, Lee
>>>>
>>>> Are you on insulin? If so, you can cover your excess carb
>>>> consumption. I can't imagine eating a cookie.
>>
>> In general, I would have to say that was bad medical advice. If a
>> diabetic is on that sort of program already, then they know how to
>> handle this. If they aren't, then they shouldn't change their program
>> without consulting with their medical person FIRST. I am on a fixed
>> dose insulin program. I cannot change my insulin dose based on what I
>> eat, only on 2-3 days worth of blood sugar readings. I have been on
>> this program for five years. My doctor has told me (threatened me?)
>> that if I am unable to maintain my blood sugar well on this program, I
>> will be switched to a program where I vary my insulin dosage for each
>> meal. For starters, this means that I will go from a twice a day
>> injection to FOUR times a day. Not fun. In addition, insulin is
>> always taken BEFORE the food, so I would have to determine exactly
>> how much I will be eating (including how many carbs), and calculate
>> the insulin dose before I eat. Sneaking an extra cookie is not on
>> the program.
>
> I used to shoot based on what I ate. That simply didn't work for me. But
> I was still limited to 45 g of carbs per meal.
>

Jim wrote:

>> I'm developing a recipe for liver with beets, orange zest, and port; I
>> think they'd go together well.
>>
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> I don't know if you're just tweaking the beet-haters, but *I* like it so
> far. [every time I see orange I try to work in Szechuan peppercorns. They
> might work here too- kind of the opposite taste/feel of liver & beets.]

That sounds like a great idea, and I'll consider how to work them in. I
think it would be even better with lamb liver, if I can find it. Thanks!

Bob

sf wrote:

> Rice and beans with liver? I couldn't do it.

If you made "dirty rice" (with chicken livers) and served it with beans, it
would meet that description and could taste pretty good.

Bob "You've never had rice and beans with liver the way *I* make it!"

Storrmmee wrote:
> and you have the medical trainning to diagnose her from news groups
> postings, I am impressed, Lee

Umm....in my professional opinion and judgment "she ain't right" ...if
you get my drift?

i understand your opinion i don't happen to agree with it, Julie to me is
just another person who is living her life the best she can given the
limitations life has put on her, the fact that she openly discusses some of
those limitations, while others among us have the same/similar limitations
and don't choose to discuss them is just a different approach to life not a
better or worse thing to me, Lee
"Goomba" > wrote in message
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> Storrmmee wrote:
>> and you have the medical trainning to diagnose her from news groups
>> postings, I am impressed, Lee
>
> Umm....in my professional opinion and judgment "she ain't right" ...if you
> get my drift?

Just want everyone to know, that not all people who live in Brooklyn,
are nasty like GRAVESEND IS. What gives GRAVESEND the right to insult
people?
Why do they put up with her crap? Give it right back to her. No reason
to be so nasty in a newsgroup. GEEESH.

SHE HAD BETTER NOT START WITH ME. I check this group out alot, but
really don't post.

Signed,

SHEEPSHEAD BAY

> wrote
> Why do they put up with her crap? Give it right back to her. No reason
> to be so nasty in a newsgroup. GEEESH.
>
> SHE HAD BETTER NOT START WITH ME.

Sorry to hear about your reading comprehension problem.

wrote:
> Just want everyone to know, that not all people who live in Brooklyn,
> are nasty like GRAVESEND IS. What gives GRAVESEND the right to insult
> people?
> Why do they put up with her crap? Give it right back to her. No reason
> to be so nasty in a newsgroup. GEEESH.
>
> SHE HAD BETTER NOT START WITH ME. I check this group out alot, but
> really don't post.
>
> Signed,
>
> SHEEPSHEAD BAY
>

did you know "alot" is misspelled?

On 10/27/2011 9:59 AM, Goomba wrote:
> wrote:
>> Just want everyone to know, that not all people who live in Brooklyn,
>> are nasty like GRAVESEND IS. What gives GRAVESEND the right to insult
>> people?
>> Why do they put up with her crap? Give it right back to her. No reason
>> to be so nasty in a newsgroup. GEEESH.
>>
>> SHE HAD BETTER NOT START WITH ME. I check this group out alot, but
>> really don't post.
>>
>> Signed,
>>
>> SHEEPSHEAD BAY
>>
>
> did you know "alot" is misspelled?


And Gravesend is not female and does not live in Brooklyn.
It's a long story.

gloria p

"Goomba" > wrote
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>> SHE HAD BETTER NOT START WITH ME. I check this group out alot, but
>> really don't post.
>>
>> Signed,
>>
>> SHEEPSHEAD BAY
>>
>
> did you know "alot" is misspelled?

Yeah, next time use two L's. and it will be more better.

In article >, Sqwertz > wrote:
>On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 17:54:35 -0700, Bob Terwilliger wrote:
>
>> Bryan wrote:
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>>> I don't want to be next to a guy who is eating liver and onions to begin
>>> with.
>>
>> What's your objection to liver and onions?
>
>Cholesterol, maybe?

Nah. That's only a problem with lamb's fry and bacon. :-)

Cheers, Phred.

--
LID

On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 14:07:18 GMT, (Phred)
wrote:

> In article >, Sqwertz > wrote:
> >On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 17:54:35 -0700, Bob Terwilliger wrote:
> >
> >> Bryan wrote:
> >>
> >>> I don't want to be next to a guy who is eating liver and onions to begin
> >>> with.
> >>
> >> What's your objection to liver and onions?
> >
> >Cholesterol, maybe?
>
> Nah. That's only a problem with lamb's fry and bacon. :-)
>
I gather that gout hasn't reared it's ugly head yet.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On Oct 28, 11:30*am, sf > wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 14:07:18 GMT, (Phred)
> wrote:
>
> > In article >, Sqwertz > wrote:
> > >On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 17:54:35 -0700, Bob Terwilliger wrote:
>
> > >> Bryan wrote:
>
> > >>> I don't want to be next to a guy who is eating liver and onions to begin
> > >>> with.
>
> > >> What's your objection to liver and onions?
>
> > >Cholesterol, maybe?
>
> > Nah. *That's only a problem with lamb's fry and bacon. :-)
>
> I gather that gout hasn't reared it's ugly head yet.
>
> --
> All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

Liver *is* a great source of iron though!

John Kuthe...