On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 10:50:44 -0700 (PDT), merryb >
wrote:

>On Oct 30, 7:26*am, Ed Pawlowskio > wrote:
>> On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 09:56:02 +0200, ChattyCathy

>> > wrote:
>> >On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 18:13:47 -0400, George wrote:
lots of snippage....................................
>he "follow at a safe distance" rule was made for a good ith switchbacks and it was pretty narrow, but it was
>a beautiful drive....

My brother recently got back from Beijing, China and he says the
driving in China is unbelievably scary. Cars next to you who want to
get into your lane sort of lean into your front bumper. Miles and
miles of roads with large cement Police statues- supposed to be
intimidating.

aloha,
Cea

On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 10:50:44 -0700 (PDT), merryb >
wrote:



>
>My husband loved driving in Italy! Altho it is crazy, it seems there
>is a method to their madness- at least they all seem to follow the
>same laws or lack of. On the road from Trento to where we stayed in
>Pieve di Bono, me must have had a hundred motorcycles fly by us! The
>road was loaded with switchbacks and it was pretty narrow, but it was
>a beautiful drive....


In many respects, I felt safer in Italy than on the roads in the US.
The drivers drive, they don't drink coffee, make lunch, put on makeup.
They do talk on the phone, but not as much as here.

Most of the mountain roads are fun to drive too.

The typical Italian driver is better skilled than the typical American
driver.

On Oct 31, 7:39*pm, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 10:50:44 -0700 (PDT), merryb >
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >My husband loved driving in Italy! Altho it is crazy, it seems there
> >is a method to their madness- at least they all seem to follow the
> >same laws or lack of. On the road from Trento to where we stayed in
> >Pieve di Bono, me must have had a hundred motorcycles fly by us! The
> >road was loaded with switchbacks and it was pretty narrow, but it was
> >a beautiful drive....
>
> In many respects, I felt safer in Italy than on the roads in the US.
> The drivers drive, they don't drink coffee, make lunch, put on makeup.
> They do talk on the phone, but not as much as here. *
>
> Most of the mountain roads are fun to drive too. *
>
> The typical Italian driver is better skilled than the typical American
> driver. *

I 100% agree with you on this- I never saw one person on their
phone...WA state has some of the worst drivers!

On 31/10/2011 10:39 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>
> In many respects, I felt safer in Italy than on the roads in the US.
> The drivers drive, they don't drink coffee, make lunch, put on makeup.
> They do talk on the phone, but not as much as here.
>
>


I have an outstanding memory of being a pedestrian in Italy, despite
only having spent one night there. The drivers were extremely
aggressive and I would not dare cross a street anywhere but at a cross
walk, and even there, only with extreme caution.

Motorcyclists there seemed to be under the same impression that
bicyclists are here..... that the rules of the road do not apply to
them. If they wanted to go down a one way street in the opposite
direction, they went on the sidewalk... and not slowly.

On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 11:00:40 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:


>I have an outstanding memory of being a pedestrian in Italy, despite
>only having spent one night there. The drivers were extremely
>aggressive and I would not dare cross a street anywhere but at a cross
>walk, and even there, only with extreme caution.
>
>Motorcyclists there seemed to be under the same impression that
>bicyclists are here..... that the rules of the road do not apply to
>them. If they wanted to go down a one way street in the opposite
>direction, they went on the sidewalk... and not slowly.


Oh man, the motorcyclists are a whole 'nuther subject. In the cities,
they creep up to the front at red lights and scatter like cockroaches
when it turns green. They pass at very high speeds and often travel
down the center crossing the center line as needed. Not just the
young guy, but the older men and women too.

I drove route 65 over the Futa Pass. That is the road that Ducati
uses for testing their bikes. There is something like 200 turns in
the first 18 miles . A couple of times, a bike would be coming at
me, on the center line, but the driver (an in some cases, passenger)
wee leading over a couple of feet into my lane. This is a narrow road
with no shoulders. What a ride!

On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:22:11 -0700 (PDT), merryb >
wrote:


>>
>> In many respects, I felt safer in Italy than on the roads in the US.
>> The drivers drive, they don't drink coffee, make lunch, put on makeup.
>> They do talk on the phone, but not as much as here. *
>>
>> Most of the mountain roads are fun to drive too. *
>>
>> The typical Italian driver is better skilled than the typical American
>> driver. *
>
>I 100% agree with you on this- I never saw one person on their
>phone...WA state has some of the worst drivers!


I saw people on the phone on the highway but on the country roads,
between shifting and turning, there is no free hand for the phone and
a coffee. It can be very busy driving.

On 11/1/2011 8:20 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>
>>>
>>> In many respects, I felt safer in Italy than on the roads in the US.
>>> The drivers drive, they don't drink coffee, make lunch, put on makeup.
>>> They do talk on the phone, but not as much as here.
>>>


Today at a stoplight the young woman driver next to me was smoking with
one hand and holding her cellphone to her ear on the other side. I
can't imagine what she was driving with but I drove away as far and fast
as possible.

gloria p

On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 20:25:15 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 12:44:51 -0500, Lou Decruss wrote:
>
>> Point understood. There are advantages to shopping as a team. A
>> couple weeks ago several things scanned wrong but we didn't catch it
>> until we were through the checkout. We went to customer service and
>> got all the items free.
>
>I need to start demanding items for free. I've been telling them
>about some sausage rolls that have been mis-marked for 8+ months, I've
>told them at least 6 times now. Last month I went right upstairs
>(Employees Only stairwell) to the asst. managers office and told him
>about it. He gave me my $1.07 back and promised he'd fix it.
>
>If it rings again wrong next week, there will be hell to pay.

All stores here don't have the policy and I've only used it a few
times but it keeps them on their toes. I once got a 50+ dollar bottle
of cologne because they fooched up. It was pretty funny watching the
****ing match of the "associates" blaming each other for how it was
mis-marked. Biting the bullet on a bag of rolls isn't like the hit
they took but I wasn't going to let them **** me over as they tried to
get 20+ more from me than what was advertised.

Lou