On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 10:20:43 -0500, Ema Nymton >
wrote:

> On 10/27/2011 11:31 PM, Pennyaline wrote:
> >
> >
> > Answers would help.
>
> Search for RFC on Facebook.
>
She has to search for recfoodcooking all squished together.


--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On 10/28/2011 10:32 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 09:55:21 -0600, Pennyaline wrote:
>
>> On 10/28/2011 9:38 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>
>>> But the name of the group DOES NOT NOT APPEAR IN THE LINK.
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/45106798639/
>>>
>>> Now you're just making stuff up.
>>
>> No, but it appears on the FB page when you arrive at the page. What you
>> were telling me somewhat cryptically was to join RFC on Facebook. That's
>> not how it appears on the page.
>
> Yes it *IS*.
>
> This is ridiculous. I'm out of here.

The group itself is RFC on FaceBook. That is not how it was stated in
the nudge-nudge-wink-wink clues that you gave me. As I've already said,
at first I thought THAT was making the difference but I have found that
I couldn't (and still can't) get there using that name even though it
was copied exactly from the site. I don't know why it's doing that, but
I know I'm tired of it being used as a reason to insult me. As someone
else has posted in this thread, I'm not the only one who's had that
experience.

You're failure to understand is not a reason to insult me.

On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:55:27 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:03:59 -0500, Andy wrote:
>
>> All is forgiven!
>
>He didn't ask for nor want your forgiveness from you, asshole. Never
>for minute think that deep down inside, and even in death, that he
>doesn't think you're a prime jackass.
>
>And don't forget it.
>

This coming from you is laughable

On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 09:49:58 -0600, Pennyaline
> wrote:

> On 10/28/2011 9:20 AM, Ema Nymton wrote:
> > On 10/27/2011 11:31 PM, Pennyaline wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Answers would help.
> >
> > Search for RFC on Facebook.
>
> Thanks for your response. I did just that, and I got a lot of results
> for unrelated pages and groups that also contained RFC in their names,
> but not this group. Varied searches had already revealed some inactive
> page with no members (someone else mentioned having gotten this page,
> too, but I don't remember who it was that posted it). Until I got the
> link last evening, there was no way for me to get to the page at all.
> Even this morning, I still cannot find the page/group with a search.

Yes, "RFC on Facebook" works. Sorry about the post to Becca, when I
actually tried it - it took me to the rfc unofficial website. Didn't
realize FB did that.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On 10/28/2011 10:43 AM, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 10:20:43 -0500, Ema >
> wrote:
>
>> On 10/27/2011 11:31 PM, Pennyaline wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Answers would help.
>>
>> Search for RFC on Facebook.
>>
> She has to search for recfoodcooking all squished together.

That was one of the variations I searched for. No dice. This RFC was not
found. The group/page still does not come up for me during any search. I
am only able to get there using the link I was given last evening.

On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 13:57:28 GMT, (Phred)
wrote:

> What's Facebook? Is it something I should know about?

If you haven't even *heard* about Facebook after this many years,
you're so far out of the loop that you don't need to know anything
about it at this point. GIYF or not.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 13:20:02 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 10/27/2011 9:14 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> >> On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:51:09 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:
> >>
> >>> I just went back and reread all the email we had exchanged over the
> >>> course of almost 10 years (probably longer, but that's all I have).
> >>
> >> And the last two days worth of posts.
> >>
> >> Sheldon can now go uncontested in most of his rantings. Sorry Blake,
> >> but I can't un-killfile Catz and do for you what I did for Bob
> >> Pastorio. I hope you'll understand.
> >
> > I've only known of two regular posters who have passed since I've been
> > reading here, and I think they both have something that everyone will
> > remember. Blake had his sig, your pal, and Blinky had the Usenet
> > Improvement Project.
> >
> > Long live them both.
>
> I still miss Christy

I still miss Moosemeat.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On 10/28/2011 11:44 AM, Pennyaline wrote:
>
> You're failure to understand is not a reason to insult me.


**You're** (cough... cough...) inability to figure it out IS a reason to
insult you.

Dumb. Bag. Rocks.

George L

On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 23:14:00 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski" >
wrote:

>
>"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
. com...
>> Sad news.... for those of you not on FaceBook.... I just got news on FB
>> from Stephanie, a friend of Blake's, that he has died. I don't know the
>> details, just that his father contacted her and said that he is not longer
>> with us.
>
>Sad indeed. I liked his humor, even if I did not agree with some of his
>political views, he could be very thought provoking. He will be missed.

He was too extreme for me to agree with all the time but I still liked
him a lot. There's some far right wingers here I don't agree with all
the time either but I like them too.

Lou

On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 09:33:40 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

> On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 11:30:28 -0400, Nancy Young <email@replyto> wrote:
>
> >On 10/28/2011 11:23 AM, Ema Nymton wrote:
> >> On 10/28/2011 1:05 AM, notbob wrote:
> >>> As always, I'm saddened when a person, specially a fellow rfc'er, has
> >>> passed on. Loved or villified, Blake was a fellow voyager in life who
> >>> deserved our respect, if for no other reason, than merely being in the
> >>> same boat as the rest of us.
> >
> >> First we lost Lynn and now Blake. They were both too young to be leaving
> >> us; it has been a bad month for rfc.
> >
> >We lost Alan Boles not that long ago, too.
> >
> >nancy
> I didn't know that.
> Janet US

Somebody needs to tell Kathy.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On 10/28/2011 10:49 AM, Christine Dabney wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 09:46:57 -0700, > wrote:
>
>> Yes, "RFC on Facebook" works. Sorry about the post to Becca, when I
>> actually tried it - it took me to the rfc unofficial website. Didn't
>> realize FB did that.
>
> When I start to put it in the search bar on FB, the group is the first
> thing that pops up. Don't even have to get beyond RFC...

I'm neither stupid nor inept. When I enter RFC on Facebook in the search
bar, here is what I get:


> Did you mean:icon pacebook
>
> Icon Pacebook
>
> Web Results
>
> Lawsuit Summary - Easyweb Innovations, LLC v. Facebook, Inc.
> Date Filed: 10/20/2011; Plaintiff: Easyweb Innovations, LLC; Defendant: Facebook, Inc.; Cause: 35:271 Patent Infringement
> http://www.rfcexpress.com/.../83878/...ok-inc/summary
> Usk RFC • News - Usk Rugby Football Club
> Usk RFC facebook Page Usk RFC has started it's official Facebook page please join for all updates, look up "Usk RFC". Usk Vs Abergavenny 22nd January 2011
> www.uskrfc.co.uk/Home.aspx
> RFC 5514 - IETF Tools
> tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5514
>
> See More Results

The "more results" takes me to Bing and page after page of everything it
can find that has "RFC" and "Facebook" in its name... except
rec.food.cooking's FB page.

When I type "RFC," "RFC o," "RFC on," "RFC on Facebook" or "RFC on
FaceBook" into the search bar, nothing happens automatically. I've got
to tell it to start the search.

The results are the same no matter how I spell it, capitalize it, change
word order or otherwise break it down. Those are the results I get.

On 10/28/2011 10:49 AM, Pennyaline wrote:
>
> Thanks for your response. I did just that, and I got a lot of results
> for unrelated pages and groups that also contained RFC in their names,
> but not this group. Varied searches had already revealed some inactive
> page with no members (someone else mentioned having gotten this page,
> too, but I don't remember who it was that posted it). Until I got the
> link last evening, there was no way for me to get to the page at all.
> Even this morning, I still cannot find the page/group with a search.

Facebook searches can be frustrating. Search for the words "RFC on
FaceBook", there are around 110 members.

Becca

On 10/28/2011 10:54 AM, Christine Dabney wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 10:49:00 -0600, Pennyaline
> > wrote:
>
>> That was one of the variations I searched for. No dice. This RFC was not
>> found. The group/page still does not come up for me during any search. I
>> am only able to get there using the link I was given last evening.
>
> When I go to the FB search bar, and type in "RFC on Facebook", it is
> the first thing that pops up. I don't even have to get beyond the
> word RFC, to get it to pop up. Not sure why you don't see it... Are
> you doing the search thru FB or a web search?

Facebook.

On 10/28/2011 10:52 AM, George Leppla wrote:
> On 10/28/2011 11:44 AM, Pennyaline wrote:
>>
>> You're failure to understand is not a reason to insult me.
>
>
> **You're** (cough... cough...) inability to figure it out IS a reason to
> insult you.
>
> Dumb. Bag. Rocks.


And yet I see that you didn't find it yourself until this morning.


<I know. I know. You're gonna tell me that you didn't *join it* until
this morning... uh huh>

On 10/28/2011 12:09 PM, Pennyaline wrote:
> On 10/28/2011 10:52 AM, George Leppla wrote:
>> On 10/28/2011 11:44 AM, Pennyaline wrote:
>>>
>>> You're failure to understand is not a reason to insult me.
>>
>>
>> **You're** (cough... cough...) inability to figure it out IS a reason to
>> insult you.
>>
>> Dumb. Bag. Rocks.
>
>
> And yet I see that you didn't find it yourself until this morning.
>
>
> <I know. I know. You're gonna tell me that you didn't *join it* until
> this morning... uh huh>
>

Read it and weep...

On 10/28/2011 10:20 AM, Christine Dabney wrote:
> Christine Dabney approved your request to join the group RFC on FaceBook.
>
http://www.facebook.com/n/?group.php...semaster. com


Yep... I searched, found and joined that group this morning. Easy as
pie for anyone.

Except you.

George L

On 10/28/2011 12:04 PM, Pennyaline wrote:
> On 10/28/2011 10:49 AM, Christine Dabney wrote:
>> On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 09:46:57 -0700, > wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, "RFC on Facebook" works. Sorry about the post to Becca, when I
>>> actually tried it - it took me to the rfc unofficial website. Didn't
>>> realize FB did that.
>>
>> When I start to put it in the search bar on FB, the group is the first
>> thing that pops up. Don't even have to get beyond RFC...
>
> I'm neither stupid nor inept. When I enter RFC on Facebook in the search
> bar, here is what I get:
>
>
>> Did you mean:icon pacebook
>>
>> Icon Pacebook
>>
>> Web Results
>>
>> Lawsuit Summary - Easyweb Innovations, LLC v. Facebook, Inc.
>> Date Filed: 10/20/2011; Plaintiff: Easyweb Innovations, LLC;
>> Defendant: Facebook, Inc.; Cause: 35:271 Patent Infringement
>> http://www.rfcexpress.com/.../83878/...ok-inc/summary
>>
>> Usk RFC • News - Usk Rugby Football Club
>> Usk RFC facebook Page Usk RFC has started it's official Facebook page
>> please join for all updates, look up "Usk RFC". Usk Vs Abergavenny
>> 22nd January 2011
>> www.uskrfc.co.uk/Home.aspx
>> RFC 5514 - IETF Tools
>> tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5514
>>
>> See More Results
>
> The "more results" takes me to Bing and page after page of everything it
> can find that has "RFC" and "Facebook" in its name... except
> rec.food.cooking's FB page.
>
> When I type "RFC," "RFC o," "RFC on," "RFC on Facebook" or "RFC on
> FaceBook" into the search bar, nothing happens automatically. I've got
> to tell it to start the search.


Congratulations... you are officially dumber than a stump. You may be
on a Facebook page, but you are typing your search query in your browser
search bar, not the Facebook search bar.

George L

On 10/28/2011 11:07 AM, Christine Dabney wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 11:05:43 -0600, Pennyaline
> > wrote:
>
>
>> Facebook.
>
> Okay, another option. Befriend me on facebook...and I will invite you.
> My name is the same as here.

I appreciate the help, Christine, but I have bad news for you. Have you
tried searching your name on Facebook?

It's okay. I had already found YOU you on the group's page. As I said, I
can get there using the link. I don't understand, however, why the group
doesn't turn up using the search function.

<or why that leaves me open to insults>

On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 12:17:48 -0500, George Leppla
> wrote:

>On 10/28/2011 12:04 PM, Pennyaline wrote:
>> On 10/28/2011 10:49 AM, Christine Dabney wrote:
>>> On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 09:46:57 -0700, > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, "RFC on Facebook" works. Sorry about the post to Becca, when I
>>>> actually tried it - it took me to the rfc unofficial website. Didn't
>>>> realize FB did that.
>>>
>>> When I start to put it in the search bar on FB, the group is the first
>>> thing that pops up. Don't even have to get beyond RFC...
>>
>> I'm neither stupid nor inept. When I enter RFC on Facebook in the search
>> bar, here is what I get:
>>
>>
>>> Did you mean:icon pacebook
>>>
>>> Icon Pacebook
>>>
>>> Web Results
>>>
>>> Lawsuit Summary - Easyweb Innovations, LLC v. Facebook, Inc.
>>> Date Filed: 10/20/2011; Plaintiff: Easyweb Innovations, LLC;
>>> Defendant: Facebook, Inc.; Cause: 35:271 Patent Infringement
>>> http://www.rfcexpress.com/.../83878/...ok-inc/summary
>>>
>>> Usk RFC • News - Usk Rugby Football Club
>>> Usk RFC facebook Page Usk RFC has started it's official Facebook page
>>> please join for all updates, look up "Usk RFC". Usk Vs Abergavenny
>>> 22nd January 2011
>>> www.uskrfc.co.uk/Home.aspx
>>> RFC 5514 - IETF Tools
>>> tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5514
>>>
>>> See More Results
>>
>> The "more results" takes me to Bing and page after page of everything it
>> can find that has "RFC" and "Facebook" in its name... except
>> rec.food.cooking's FB page.
>>
>> When I type "RFC," "RFC o," "RFC on," "RFC on Facebook" or "RFC on
>> FaceBook" into the search bar, nothing happens automatically. I've got
>> to tell it to start the search.
>
>
>Congratulations... you are officially dumber than a stump. You may be
>on a Facebook page, but you are typing your search query in your browser
>search bar, not the Facebook search bar.

This is sounding like kuthe trying to get headers from e-s through
foxfire. LOL

Lou

Ema Nymton > wrote in
:

> Facebook searches can be frustrating. Search for the words
> "RFC on FaceBook", there are around 110 members.

What you get if you do that is: No results found for your query.
Please check your spelling or try another term.

The only other things I've found are UK football teams and
references to Rainforest Challenge.

--

If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn’t
help the poor, either we’ve got to pretend that Jesus
was just as selfish as we are, or we’ve got to acknowledge
that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy
without condition, and then admit that we just don’t
want to do it.

Stephen Colbert (via videcormeum)

On 28/10/2011 1:17 PM, George Leppla wrote:

>> When I type "RFC," "RFC o," "RFC on," "RFC on Facebook" or "RFC on
>> FaceBook" into the search bar, nothing happens automatically. I've got
>> to tell it to start the search.
>
>
> Congratulations... you are officially dumber than a stump. You may be on
> a Facebook page, but you are typing your search query in your browser
> search bar, not the Facebook search bar.



Whatever you do, do not admit to being part of the cabal.I already told
her that it doesn't exist and the moderator will smite me with get broom
if we reveal her identity.

On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 12:17:48 -0500, George Leppla
> wrote:

>On 10/28/2011 12:04 PM, Pennyaline wrote:
>> On 10/28/2011 10:49 AM, Christine Dabney wrote:
>>> On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 09:46:57 -0700, > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, "RFC on Facebook" works. Sorry about the post to Becca, when I
>>>> actually tried it - it took me to the rfc unofficial website. Didn't
>>>> realize FB did that.
>>>
>>> When I start to put it in the search bar on FB, the group is the first
>>> thing that pops up. Don't even have to get beyond RFC...
>>
>> I'm neither stupid nor inept. When I enter RFC on Facebook in the search
>> bar, here is what I get:
>>
>>
>>> Did you mean:icon pacebook
>>>
>>> Icon Pacebook
>>>
>>> Web Results
>>>
>>> Lawsuit Summary - Easyweb Innovations, LLC v. Facebook, Inc.
>>> Date Filed: 10/20/2011; Plaintiff: Easyweb Innovations, LLC;
>>> Defendant: Facebook, Inc.; Cause: 35:271 Patent Infringement
>>> http://www.rfcexpress.com/.../83878/...ok-inc/summary
>>>
>>> Usk RFC • News - Usk Rugby Football Club
>>> Usk RFC facebook Page Usk RFC has started it's official Facebook page
>>> please join for all updates, look up "Usk RFC". Usk Vs Abergavenny
>>> 22nd January 2011
>>> www.uskrfc.co.uk/Home.aspx
>>> RFC 5514 - IETF Tools
>>> tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5514
>>>
>>> See More Results
>>
>> The "more results" takes me to Bing and page after page of everything it
>> can find that has "RFC" and "Facebook" in its name... except
>> rec.food.cooking's FB page.
>>
>> When I type "RFC," "RFC o," "RFC on," "RFC on Facebook" or "RFC on
>> FaceBook" into the search bar, nothing happens automatically. I've got
>> to tell it to start the search.
>
>
>Congratulations... you are officially dumber than a stump. You may be
>on a Facebook page, but you are typing your search query in your browser
>search bar, not the Facebook search bar.
>
>George L
>
I was tempted to try to find it. I know nothing about Facebook. But
I am really computer clueless and don't want to ask for help. By now
I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be welcome.
Janet US

On 28/10/2011 1:04 PM, Ema Nymton wrote:
> On 10/28/2011 10:49 AM, Pennyaline wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for your response. I did just that, and I got a lot of results
>> for unrelated pages and groups that also contained RFC in their names,
>> but not this group. Varied searches had already revealed some inactive
>> page with no members (someone else mentioned having gotten this page,
>> too, but I don't remember who it was that posted it). Until I got the
>> link last evening, there was no way for me to get to the page at all.
>> Even this morning, I still cannot find the page/group with a search.
>
> Facebook searches can be frustrating. Search for the words "RFC on
> FaceBook", there are around 110 members.
>
> Becca


I found it easy enough with R.F.C.

It is unusual to encounter people who are both paranoid and stupid. I
don't know what her problem is.

On 10/28/2011 11:17 AM, George Leppla wrote:

> Congratulations... you are officially dumber than a stump. You may be on
> a Facebook page, but you are typing your search query in your browser
> search bar, not the Facebook search bar.

Bow out, asshole. I know the difference between the two, and I've been
more than clear that I'm using the Facebook search bar.

You don't give anybody much credit, do you.

On 10/28/2011 11:26 AM, Christine Dabney wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 12:17:48 -0500, George Leppla
> > wrote:
>
>> You may be
>> on a Facebook page, but you are typing your search query in your browser
>> search bar, not the Facebook search bar.
>
> Yes, if you type it into the Facebook search bar, you don't have to
> hit something to start the search, it automatically pulls up words,
> people, groups. I think you are putting it into the browser search
> bar...or your search engine.
> The Facebook search bar is right next to the word Facebook. And right
> next to where your notifications of messages, etc are. It is specific
> to Facebook...

No, actually. I AM using the Facebook search bar that says "Search" in
it on the Facebook page, right next to where it says "facebook" in black
font on a blue background followed by the three icons for friend
requests, messages and notifications, and have been using that search
bar all along. After the search results come up, one can find another
Facebook search bar, below and to the right of the first Facebook search
bar, that has the terms of the last search in it.


I told you, I am neither stupid nor inept. I don't know why you
addressed me as though I am immediately after I told you that.

On 10/28/2011 11:27 AM, Michel Boucher wrote:
> Ema > wrote in
> :
>
>> Facebook searches can be frustrating. Search for the words
>> "RFC on FaceBook", there are around 110 members.
>
> What you get if you do that is: No results found for your query.
> Please check your spelling or try another term.
>
> The only other things I've found are UK football teams and
> references to Rainforest Challenge.

Yes, I get results for tons of football teams.

On 10/28/2011 11:28 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 28/10/2011 1:17 PM, George Leppla wrote:
>
>>> When I type "RFC," "RFC o," "RFC on," "RFC on Facebook" or "RFC on
>>> FaceBook" into the search bar, nothing happens automatically. I've got
>>> to tell it to start the search.
>>
>>
>> Congratulations... you are officially dumber than a stump. You may be on
>> a Facebook page, but you are typing your search query in your browser
>> search bar, not the Facebook search bar.
>
>
>
> Whatever you do, do not admit to being part of the cabal.I already told
> her that it doesn't exist and the moderator will smite me with get broom
> if we reveal her identity.


Cabal? Wouldn't know. Moderator? It was already explained last night
that the poster who mentioned moderators was talking about whoever runs
the FB page.

It's difficult to keep up with the discussion when you're behind in your
reading, isn't it?

On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 09:59:31 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> Is there some sort of medication you should be taking?
> If you are in FB it should not be hard for you to use their search
> option to look up R.F.C.

It's harder than you think. Try setting up a new account and don't
link them, then try searching using the usual suspects.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On 10/28/2011 11:28 AM, Christine Dabney wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 11:25:33 -0600, Pennyaline
> > wrote:
>
>> It's okay. I had already found YOU you on the group's page. As I said, I
>> can get there using the link. I don't understand, however, why the group
>> doesn't turn up using the search function.
>
> It does turn up using the search function that belongs to Facebook.
> Not your browser one... I think you are putting it into the browser
> search bar.


It does NOT turn up using the search bar that belongs to Facebook. I am
NOT using the browser search bar.

On 10/28/2011 4:22 AM, Bob Terwilliger wrote:
> Damsel wrote:
>
>> I just want to cry when I see that this is how RFC pays respect to a lost
>> friend.
>
>
> It was a thousand times worse when kilikini died. That thread got *real*
> ugly.
>
> Personally, I prefer to get ANGRY at the death of someone I care about. Not
> angry at the dead person, angry at the unfeeling uncaring unfair universe
> which allows good people to die while shitty people prosper.
>
> When Andy disclosed in 2006 that his sister-in-law had just died of lung
> cancer, I passed this along:
>
> In the introduction to _Angry Candy_, Harlan Ellison recounted the funeral
> of his friend Emily:
>
> ==========================BEGIN QUOTE=======================
>
> We sat through the early part of the service, and we perhaps heard the
> remarks and sentiments from the minister, Mr. Richelieu. Then he called on
> me, and everything I'd wanted to say about Emily, about her warmth and
> decency and flawless friendship and personal strength, all of it fled, and I
> was angry. There is no other word, I was just goddamned *angry*!
>
> Richelieu had done that standard number about the deceased going on to a
> better place, that Emily was at peace at last, that we could all take heart
> in the sure and certain knowledge that she was watching us from on high, and
> smiling at us.
>
> And I began speaking, and I'm not sure exactly what I said, but it was
> something like this:
>
> It's not seemly to speak harshly at the funeral of someone you loved, and
> who's gone away, and you miss so much it squeezes your chest when you think
> about them. It's not right to make a big scene and cry about how it hurts
> when you ask that lost friend a question, and she's not there to answer, as
> if the wind took her answer away, and if you listen hard enough you can
> still hear her voice receding, getting thinner and smaller and more
> transparent. We're not supposed to do that. We're supposed to reassure one
> another and say dumb things like, "Well, she couldn't have suffered much."
> And I *want* to say things like that, because ceremonies like this are for
> the living, and not the dead, because the dead are gone and can't hear what
> we say, and I can't even take solace in that, because it isn't a new
> thought. And the truth of it is, I can't take any solace *at all*, because
> Emily is dead. She's just gone, and we won't hear her cleverness ever
> again, and we won't see the way she gave that wry smile, as she turned
> half-away so you could enjoy what she said without having to worry about her
> reaction. No one allows us to be angry. It isn't fitting, it isn't seemly.
> But that's how I feel. I'm just pure and deeply angry that she's gone.
> That she died when her life was so good. That's cruel. It's like some kind
> of old Arabian Nights revenge, where the djinn waits until you're happiest
> to slice you down. And in the compassion that we try to show each other, we
> won't let ourselves be angry, won't let ourselves scream at the world that
> is now minus that special part.
>
> YOU CAN BE ANGRY! "Do not go gentle into that good night, old age should
> burn and rave at close of day; rage, rage against the dying of the light."
> It will be a brief enough time before our daily measure softens the edge of
> memory, and Emily, and all she was, and all the places in which she resided
> in our hearts will have closed over just like the Red Sea, and we won't
> *feel* like being angry. We'll just be miserable, and lonely for her, and
> we'll never have taken the opportunity to let the stupid nasty world that
> took her know how much we miss her and how just goddamned *angry* we are!
>
> And I sat down, and could feel that these people were angry, but not at
> Emily's death. They were angry because I hadn't played the game. And I felt
> awful, just awful, and I hung my head. And Susan touched my hand, and I
> cried.
>
> And Norman [Spinrad] got up, and he climbed the risers to the platform
> filled with flowers, and he stood behind the lectern, and he spoke so well.
> He believed as I believed, that it is better to send off the loved one with
> rage, to show at least for a moment to the empty sky and the sunny day that
> you *cared*, enough to look cranky and unseemly, that the loved one deserved
> at least *that* much, but he was saner than I. He said, (and this is just a
> part, just the best part that I remember), "Don't expect justice. Emily
> being taken like this, is not fair. It is not just. She never deserved to
> die so soon. There is no justice inherent in the universe -- except what we
> put there. All the justice that exists, is what we make. So let us show
> compassion and sense and courage, in Emily's name."
>
> Oh, that was *so much* better. I wish I'd had the wit or the skill or the
> clear head to say that. Because it was what lay at the core of my anger. It
> was something that could keep you busy while mourning. It could kill the
> guilt of not having been there to save her. Of not having said to her the
> things you now realize she needed to hear from a friend. Of not feeling
> adequate to face death. It was wise and sane and correct.
>
> And then Richelieu got up and -- gently but firmly -- debunked what we had
> said. With oleaginous sincerity, he told his flock the same fable all over
> again, pushing the philosophy of that particular House of God and House of
> Men.
>
> When the ceremony was ended, we three stood alone for a time, and no one
> came to speak to us, except for one woman who approached us and, smiling as
> Richelieu had been smiling, advised us that Emily *was* above, and she hoped
> and prayed for us that we would be able to let the sun into our hearts. She
> meant well, but I wanted to slug her.
>
>
> And we walked back to the car, and we got in and drove away from Redondo
> Beach; and there hasn't been a day since February of 1986 that I haven't
> thought about Emily, and how much I miss my friend.
>
> ===========================END QUOTE========================
>
>
> That's the best description I've ever seen for my reaction to the death of a
> loved one.

I agree so much with this. I got angry at my son for leaving us, my
dad, and angry at God for taking them. I can't even say I'm over the
anger yet after all these years. I don't want anyone to say let it go
because it won't go. I don't know that I want it to go.

Anyway, thank you for reposting that. I haven't been surprised by the
reactions here because it is how people deal with something that touches
them. Some are thoughtful and quiet, some aren't. Neither is right and
neither is wrong. It just ... is.

On 10/28/2011 11:16 AM, George Leppla wrote:

>
> Read it and weep...
>
> On 10/28/2011 10:20 AM, Christine Dabney wrote:
> > Christine Dabney approved your request to join the group RFC on
> FaceBook.
> >
> http://www.facebook.com/n/?group.php...semaster. com


Read WHAT and weep? Weep about what?



> Yep... I searched, found and joined that group this morning. Easy as pie
> for anyone.
>
> Except you.


It's not coming up using the FACEBOOK SEARCH BAR. Jesus, you are an asshole.

On 10/28/2011 11:30 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 28/10/2011 1:04 PM, Ema Nymton wrote:
>> On 10/28/2011 10:49 AM, Pennyaline wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for your response. I did just that, and I got a lot of results
>>> for unrelated pages and groups that also contained RFC in their names,
>>> but not this group. Varied searches had already revealed some inactive
>>> page with no members (someone else mentioned having gotten this page,
>>> too, but I don't remember who it was that posted it). Until I got the
>>> link last evening, there was no way for me to get to the page at all.
>>> Even this morning, I still cannot find the page/group with a search.
>>
>> Facebook searches can be frustrating. Search for the words "RFC on
>> FaceBook", there are around 110 members.
>>
>> Becca
>
>
> I found it easy enough with R.F.C.
>
> It is unusual to encounter people who are both paranoid and stupid. I
> don't know what her problem is.


Neither paranoia nor stupidity are my problem.

<since we have others who have said it wasn't that easy for them either>

Christine Dabney > wrote in
:

> You have a totally different search bar than I do, then.
> Where it says Facebook on my page, it is a white font on a
> blue background. No where that I see, except in the web
> browser, is there a black font. Below that, is the search bar
> that I use.
>
> Wish I could see a screen shot of your page...

Ok, look, this is not rocket science. You either post the exact
coordinates and stop sending people on wild goose chases or you
tell them you don't want them in your club. It's not a frakkin'
mystery.

--

If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn’t
help the poor, either we’ve got to pretend that Jesus
was just as selfish as we are, or we’ve got to acknowledge
that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy
without condition, and then admit that we just don’t
want to do it.

Stephen Colbert (via videcormeum)

On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 09:49:33 -0700, Christine Dabney
> wrote:

> On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 09:46:57 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
> >Yes, "RFC on Facebook" works. Sorry about the post to Becca, when I
> >actually tried it - it took me to the rfc unofficial website. Didn't
> >realize FB did that.
>
> When I start to put it in the search bar on FB, the group is the first
> thing that pops up. Don't even have to get beyond RFC...
>
That's because you're already subscribed. Try finding it from an
unlinked FB account on someone else's computer.


--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On 10/28/2011 11:49 AM, Christine Dabney wrote:
> You have a totally different search bar than I do, then. Where it
> says Facebook on my page, it is a white font on a blue background. No
> where that I see, except in the web browser, is there a black font.
> Below that, is the search bar that I use.
>
> Wish I could see a screen shot of your page...

Doh!! Sorry. "facebook" in white lowercase font, then the three icons,
then the search bar that says "Search" in it on the left and has a
magnifying glass at the far right end. On my landing page, there is no
other search bar. The only empty area for text entry under the search
bar on that page is the "What's on your mind?" update bar.

After I do a search for RFC, R.F.C., RFC o, RFC on, RFC on Facebook, RFC
on Facebook, etc., etc., using (here we go again, gotta prove it 'cuz
I'm officially dumb as a bag of rocks you know) Facebook search bar that
says "Search" in it on the left and has the magnifying glass at the far
right end, next to where it says "facebook" and the three icons for
friend requests, messages and notifications, and the search FAILS, the
page that appears has the Facebook search bar (next to the three icons,
etc., etc.) and a second Facebook search bar below and to the right of
the first one. The second Facebook search bar already contains the terms
of the search that was just done.

On 10/28/2011 11:54 AM, Michel Boucher wrote:
> Christine > wrote in
> :
>
>> You have a totally different search bar than I do, then.
>> Where it says Facebook on my page, it is a white font on a
>> blue background. No where that I see, except in the web
>> browser, is there a black font. Below that, is the search bar
>> that I use.
>>
>> Wish I could see a screen shot of your page...
>
> Ok, look, this is not rocket science. You either post the exact
> coordinates and stop sending people on wild goose chases or you
> tell them you don't want them in your club. It's not a frakkin'
> mystery.

No, I do think she is trying to help me.

On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 09:54:10 -0700, Christine Dabney
> wrote:

> When I go to the FB search bar, and type in "RFC on Facebook", it is
> the first thing that pops up.

Nobody knows that you need to add "on Facebook" unless they're privy
to the information and "one of us" f*cked it up anyway. Dat one be
me.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On 10/28/2011 8:43 AM, Bull wrote:
> In >, Andy > wrote:
>
>
> Surprised you would even show your low life mush for brains face in this
> thread!
>
> BULL

Don't you think that it would be better if these personal attacks were
transferred to a differently named thread?

De mortuis nihil nisi bonum.

--


James Silverton, Potomac

I'm *not*

In article >,
Dave Smith > wrote:

> On 28/10/2011 10:02 AM, Pennyaline wrote:

> > The statement was made here more than once that secrecy and *obscurity*
> > must be maintained to keep undesirable elements out.
>
>
> The cabal??? LMAO.... it is a standing joke.

[snip]

> > Wow. You're still not getting it. Oh well. Moving on.
>
> No. You are not moving on. You are still whining

> As I pointed it out before, if we were keeping the news to ourselves (we
> the cabal) then it would not have been immediately posted here.

Yeah, it would have been posted just to the secret Email list.

Oops! I wasn't supposed to mention that, was I?

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 11:28:55 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

> I was tempted to try to find it. I know nothing about Facebook. But
> I am really computer clueless and don't want to ask for help. By now
> I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be welcome.
> Janet US

Oh, baloney Janet! Most assuredly, you'd be welcomed. If I was
learning the computer now, I'd consider FB another resource for help.
I surfed internet chat rooms, asking dumb newbie questions in odd
places like hot tub rooms before I learned about usenet. Never found
anything racy and no one was ever mean to me. The whole point of the
rfc FB page is to stay away from the nastiness that happens here.
What's nice about FB is that if there's someone you don't want to ever
see posting on the rfc page, you can set it so you don't see them and
they won't see you. It's a two way kill.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 12:27:03 -0500, Michel Boucher
> wrote:

> Ema Nymton > wrote in
> :
>
> > Facebook searches can be frustrating. Search for the words
> > "RFC on FaceBook", there are around 110 members.
>
> What you get if you do that is: No results found for your query.
> Please check your spelling or try another term.
>
> The only other things I've found are UK football teams and
> references to Rainforest Challenge.

I see you finally found it and joined.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.